Isn't it weird to donate for sick animals when we have sick kids? (1 Viewer)

[Dr. Octopus]

does anything trump sick kids? If not, I guess they should get all the money then. Why does our govt buy tanks and bombs and stuff when there are sick kids?

You've posted several times with the same point, we get it. Move on to something else.

I'm just trying to figure out the ranking here. Seems like people donating to charity is a good thing, regardless of the cause. Not everybody cares about the same stuff.

People who donate to sick kids could probably donate MORE to sick kids, couldn't they?

Donate to what you want, I don't care. But we'd be better off as a society if people focused on human matters rather than animal matters. That is indisputable. Humans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Animals. However, again do what you want to do, doing something productive is better than nothing.

I dispute that.

You can't.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I'm donating sperm to a Kleenex right now. Not sure how to classify this.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'm donating sperm to a Kleenex right now. Not sure how to classify this.

You animal!

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Have the pit bull guys showed up yet?

Right here, mi amigo

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I'm donating sperm to a Kleenex right now. Not sure how to classify this.

I think that's probably better than donating it to a sick kid or a sick animal.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Ok, so we've established that pets are equally as valuable as children.

Where is the dividing line between pets? Do you guys think it's silly to donate to pet fish causes? Hamsters? Just cats and dogs?

You forgot privacy shrubs. They're definitely more important than children.

How many cats do you have?

Why do you love privacy shrubs more than your kids?

I haven't purchased privacy shrubs yet. It is likely my wife will spend that money on the kids before I get the chance. I hope you're happy.

Isn't it weird that she would spend that money on your kids who are well feed and have a roof over their heads instead of sick, starving, homeless kids?

 

[El Floppo]

I'm donating sperm to a Kleenex right now. Not sure how to classify this.

Think of the children!

 

[Bucky86]

Should we even be donating to charities that help non-lethal illnesses?

 

[Scoresman]

Should we even be donating to charities that help non-lethal illnesses?

and what about wounded veterans? i mean, they're still alive right?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

 

[dgreen]

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

Seems like a waste to give a dying kid money. They can't take it with them.

 

[Bucky86]

Should we even be donating to charities that help non-lethal illnesses?

and what about wounded veterans? i mean, they're still alive right?

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

Now we're onto something.

 

[TheIronSheik]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

What about dead kids?

 

[Otis]

Are you guys gonna be OK?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

What about dead kids?

reanimation research?

http://www.theonion.com/articles/corpsereanimation-technology-still-10-years-off-sa,1525/

 

[Otis]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

What about dead kids?

Always a funny thing to joke about.

 

[Gambino]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

You are really coming off as pretty thick in here, which I know you aren't. The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can make all the fun of it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

You are really coming off as pretty thick in here, which I know you aren't. The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can off all the fun with it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

I know that's the point, but I'm trying to see where else this "logic" takes us.

do you guys just think animals aren't worth helping at all? would you ever go out of your way to help an animal that was suffering? can't people donate to both types of charities?

serious questions.

 

[dgreen]

The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can make all the fun of it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

Not exactly. He said:

Is it such a bad idea to pour all of our resources into children's illnesses first? After we resolve those, then we can harp on stuff that impacts old people, and once people are all set, we can do animals and saving trees and other stuff?

It's sort of like the philosophy of attacking your highest interest credit card debt first.

That's not just saying that people > animals. That's saying all resources should to the top priority before any go to lower priorities.

 

[Gambino]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

You are really coming off as pretty thick in here, which I know you aren't. The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can off all the fun with it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

I know that's the point, but I'm trying to see where else this "logic" takes us.

do you guys just think animals aren't worth helping at all? would you ever go out of your way to help an animal that was suffering? can't people donate to both types of charities?

serious questions.

Sure, if you have the resources then help as many people/things as possible. I don't want to speak for Otis, but for me it is just odd that some people throw themselves into causes that benefit animals, when there are so many PEOPLE/HUMAN BEINGS that could benefit from their help.

 

[TheIronSheik]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

What about dead kids?

Always a funny thing to joke about.

Who's joking? I'm trying to figure out the priorities of donating monies.

 

[El Floppo]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

You are really coming off as pretty thick in here, which I know you aren't. The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can off all the fun with it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

I know that's the point, but I'm trying to see where else this "logic" takes us.

do you guys just think animals aren't worth helping at all? would you ever go out of your way to help an animal that was suffering? can't people donate to both types of charities?

serious questions.

Sure, if you have the resources then help as many people/things as possible. I don't want to speak for Otis, but for me it is just odd that some people throw themselves into causes that benefit animals, when there are so many PEOPLE/HUMAN BEINGS that could benefit from their help.

For me, it's odd to complain about somebody giving money to a charity... any charity.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

 

[Gambino]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

 

[Gambino]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

You are really coming off as pretty thick in here, which I know you aren't. The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can off all the fun with it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

I know that's the point, but I'm trying to see where else this "logic" takes us.

do you guys just think animals aren't worth helping at all? would you ever go out of your way to help an animal that was suffering? can't people donate to both types of charities?

serious questions.

Sure, if you have the resources then help as many people/things as possible. I don't want to speak for Otis, but for me it is just odd that some people throw themselves into causes that benefit animals, when there are so many PEOPLE/HUMAN BEINGS that could benefit from their help.

For me, it's odd to complain about somebody giving money to a charity... any charity.

I agree, who is complaining?

 

[Scoresman]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

they are helping human beings by donating to animal charities. animals enrich people's lives and the more that get saved/adopted means more people's lives get that much better.

 

[El Floppo]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

You are really coming off as pretty thick in here, which I know you aren't. The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can off all the fun with it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

I know that's the point, but I'm trying to see where else this "logic" takes us.

do you guys just think animals aren't worth helping at all? would you ever go out of your way to help an animal that was suffering? can't people donate to both types of charities?

serious questions.

Sure, if you have the resources then help as many people/things as possible. I don't want to speak for Otis, but for me it is just odd that some people throw themselves into causes that benefit animals, when there are so many PEOPLE/HUMAN BEINGS that could benefit from their help.

For me, it's odd to complain about somebody giving money to a charity... any charity.

I agree, who is complaining?

com·plain
kəmˈplān/
verb

1. express dissatisfaction or annoyance about a state of affairs or an event.
   
   synonyms: protest, grumble, whine, bleat, carp, cavil, grouse, make a fuss; object, speak out, criticize, find fault;
   informalkick up a fuss, raise a stink,bellyache, moan, snivel, beef, #####, sound off, gripe, kvetch
   
   

not you or Otis, I guess.

 

[Gambino]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

sounds like the starting point is kids > adults > animals. how do we rank the kids charities though? I'm sure some are better than others.

dying kids > sick kids > healthy kids?

You are really coming off as pretty thick in here, which I know you aren't. The whole point is taking care of humans before animals. You can off all the fun with it that you want and continue to be a jagoff, but that's the point he was making.

I know that's the point, but I'm trying to see where else this "logic" takes us.

do you guys just think animals aren't worth helping at all? would you ever go out of your way to help an animal that was suffering? can't people donate to both types of charities?

serious questions.

Sure, if you have the resources then help as many people/things as possible. I don't want to speak for Otis, but for me it is just odd that some people throw themselves into causes that benefit animals, when there are so many PEOPLE/HUMAN BEINGS that could benefit from their help.

For me, it's odd to complain about somebody giving money to a charity... any charity.

I agree, who is complaining?

com·plain
kəmˈplān/
verb

1. express dissatisfaction or annoyance about a state of affairs or an event.
   
   synonyms: protest, grumble, whine, bleat, carp, cavil, grouse, make a fuss; object, speak out, criticize, find fault;
   informalkick up a fuss, raise a stink,bellyache, moan, snivel, beef, #####, sound off, gripe, kvetch
   
   

not you or Otis, I guess.

I'll speak for Otis here, and say glad to see we are on the same page. Continue on with your good work.

 

[cstu]

Yes.

 

[cstu]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

Cancer.

/thread

 

[Bucky86]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

Cancer.

/thread

Animals can get cancer.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

yet Otis doesn't care enough to start a thread questioning people who sit around playing video games rather than going down to help out sick kids somewhere.

 

[Scoresman]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

yet Otis doesn't care enough to start a thread questioning people who sit around playing video games rather than going down to help out sick kids somewhere.

its like the old belief how you only get called for jury duty if you register to vote. Do something good, and you'll get punished for it.

 

[Gambino]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

yet Otis doesn't care enough to start a thread questioning people who sit around playing video games rather than going down to help out sick kids somewhere.

Otis can answer for himself, but I have to say that your behavior in this thread is rather bizarre. You seem a bit "off"; I hope things turn around for you.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

yet Otis doesn't care enough to start a thread questioning people who sit around playing video games rather than going down to help out sick kids somewhere.

its like the old belief how you only get called for jury duty if you register to vote. Do something good, and you'll get punished for it.

Jury duty isn't punishment, Fidel.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Otis can answer for himself, but I have to say that your behavior in this thread is rather bizarre. You seem a bit "off"; I hope things turn around for you.

I'm responding to statements made by other people that I think are "off". Pretty sure my comments are in line with most people's in this thread. You and Otis seem like the outliers to me.

So, when Otis says we should put all our resources towards curing sick kids before we spend any money on sick pets, you think it's weird that someone would question that? Is it even possible to donate enough money to cure all the sick kids in the world?

 

[Amused to Death]

we really need some guidance on figuring which charities are important enough to give money to.

Cancer.

/thread

Animals can get cancer.

And epilepsy.

"Make a donation and save a shakin' dalmatian"

 

[Otis]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

I never once said anyone was a bad guy, misguided as I think it may be to put cats over people.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Just pondering this as I saw one of those ASPCA commercials or whatever that talk about starving dogs and cats in shelters. Is it a little weird that we donate so much in the way of resources as a society to these animals, particularly when those resources could instead be focused on a more important class -- i.e., people? And while it's sad for older people to get sick and pass on, if I get sick and die in my forties, it will stink, but I would say I've lived a great and full life and it would hardly be tragic. But sick children are the class of need that to me hit the hardest and most powerfully. How the heck are people donating their time and money to fido when there are illnesses that kill children?

Let's debate.* I'll hang up and listen.

you said you wanted a debate.

my question is why are you worried about people who are contributing to causes that are important to them instead of worrying about people who do nothing or waste money/time in other ways?

you're obviously spending some time/money in your life doing things that aren't helping these sick kids that upset you. Instead of worrying what others are doing, why not do more yourself first?

isn't this just another tangent to the "why are people donating to ALS research with this ice bucket challenge when cancer is way more important and affects way more people" argument? just seems misguided to tell people what types of charities they should be contributing to, and what good deeds they should be doing.

 

[Otis]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

yet Otis doesn't care enough to start a thread questioning people who sit around playing video games rather than going down to help out sick kids somewhere.

I'm not going that far. You're right the logic can extend to ridiculous things if you take it far enough. That's why I an asking only about the money we gice to charity already and only comparing cat charities to person charities.

I maybe blame Shuke, but this place has an unparalleled ability to make easy things seem hard.

 

[Otis]

Just pondering this as I saw one of those ASPCA commercials or whatever that talk about starving dogs and cats in shelters. Is it a little weird that we donate so much in the way of resources as a society to these animals, particularly when those resources could instead be focused on a more important class -- i.e., people? And while it's sad for older people to get sick and pass on, if I get sick and die in my forties, it will stink, but I would say I've lived a great and full life and it would hardly be tragic. But sick children are the class of need that to me hit the hardest and most powerfully. How the heck are people donating their time and money to fido when there are illnesses that kill children?

Let's debate.* I'll hang up and listen.

you said you wanted a debate.my question is why are you worried about people who are contributing to causes that are important to them instead of worrying about people who do nothing or waste money/time in other ways?

you're obviously spending some time/money in your life doing things that aren't helping these sick kids that upset you. Instead of worrying what others are doing, why not do more yourself first?

I'm not worried. It was a question. One that struck me as somewhat interesting.

 

[Otis]

there's got to be a ton of people out there who don't lift a finger to help anyone but themselves. they get a pass but people who throw a few bucks or volunteer some time at an animal shelter from time to time are the bad guys?

They aren't "bad guys", but their time would be much better spent helping actual human beings. But, no doubt, them helping animals is better than doing nothing at all. This isn't hard to figure out.

yet Otis doesn't care enough to start a thread questioning people who sit around playing video games rather than going down to help out sick kids somewhere.

I'll do that next Friday. Sure to be another lighting rod issue around here.

STAY AWAY FROM MY CATS AND NINTENDOS, COMMIE

 

[jamny]

How about giving money for dogs who help police and the military?

 

[El Floppo]

How about giving money for dogs who help police and the military?

nothing but #####es.

 

[Otis]

How about giving money for dogs who help police and the military?

Don't the police and gazillion dollar military budget have that covered?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Here we go...

Yes it is weird.

But it isn't wrong.

 

[jamny]

How about giving money for dogs who help police and the military?

Don't the police and gazillion dollar military budget have that covered?

So no donations needed for veterans groups either then?

 

[culdeus]

How many of you guys give to hamster causes?

is xhamster a hamster cause?

 

[joffer]

This is awful, even for hawk Otis

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I'm donating sperm to a Kleenex right now. Not sure how to classify this.

I think that's probably better than donating it to a sick kid or a sick animal.

Yeah I'll never do that again.