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It's a Wonderful Life (4 Viewers)

Let's not forget about George's new-found wealth with Potter's offer of 20k/year.....it's a three year deal, which includes burying the savings and loan. After three years George is without a job and no fallback other than working for Potter all over again, likely at less than his $45 / week...because that's how Potter rolls.
True but in that 3 years he'll have made what he would have made a lifetime of working his old job (27 years worth or so).

 
Stewart acts as much with his facial expressions as he does with his lines - to me, that’s what makes his portrayal of George Bailey an otherworldly performance.

 
Stewart acts as much with his facial expressions as he does with his lines - to me, that’s what makes his portrayal of George Bailey an otherworldly performance.
He even acted like he couldnt carry a tune there at the end.

But...lots of magic. Conveying so much subtlety yet complete range of emotion with his face, hands, voice..complete and all-timey performance.

 
Stewart acts as much with his facial expressions as he does with his lines - to me, that’s what makes his portrayal of George Bailey an otherworldly performance.
He had tremendous courage in that regard. I didn't think it worked all that well for him in later films - the Hitchcocks in general and the ridiculous potion-drinking scene in the otherwise-lovely Bell, Book & Candle in particular - but Capra made them soar on several occasions, esp the wide-angle of drunken George on the bridge

 
True but in that 3 years he'll have made what he would have made a lifetime of working his old job (27 years worth or so).
Could've finally moved off and traveled for a while and did what he was planning on doing at the beginning. 

 
He even acted like he couldnt carry a tune there at the end.

But...lots of magic. Conveying so much subtlety yet complete range of emotion with his face, hands, voice..complete and all-timey performance.
The best drunk actor too. His drunk scenes at the end here in the middle of Philadelphia Story steal the movies.

 
True but in that 3 years he'll have made what he would have made a lifetime of working his old job (27 years worth or so).
That kind of bank he also could have started another Building and loan after his contract ended.   
The shark move would have been to take Potter's money, then secretly give a significant portion of it to the people who were on the verge of being foreclosed by Potter. Not only would he screw Potter out of nearly a million dollars in salary (in today's value), but he could have single-handedly decimated Potter's slumlord business from the inside.

 
The shark move would have been to take Potter's money, then secretly give a significant portion of it to the people who were on the verge of being foreclosed by Potter. Not only would he screw Potter out of nearly a million dollars in salary (in today's value), but he could have single-handedly decimated Potter's slumlord business from the inside.
Like that plan.  Also what if he used that money to run for mayor of Bedford Falls.  Once elected, he could push for stronger housing regulations and truth in lending acts.  Forcing potter's hand on these issues. 

 
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Harry Bailey was a selfish, narcissistic jerk:

- doesn't thank his brother for saving his life.

- doesn't bother to warn George about the gym floor being opened up.

- steals George's college money.

- makes the college All-America football team but doesn't have the decency to accept a scholarship so that he can pay back his brother.

- gets married without notifying anyone in his family.

- all but accepts a job with his father-in-law, knowing full well that his brother is too nice to ask him to turn it down.

Also, I'm skeptical of his motives for flying home in the middle of a blizzard. Was he flying home to give George money, only to keep the money for himself after realizing that everyone else had already taken care of it? (If so, that's a total cheapskate jerk move.) Why else did he need to get home so soon?

Maybe, just maybe, he was jealous of all the attention that his big brother was getting, so he flew home to make sure the town didn't forget about that parade it had promised him. Sure, he gives a toast to his brother at the end. But what he's really saying is "Look at me! Don't forget my parade!"

Yeah, yeah, the guy shot down a plane.

 
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Harry Bailey was a selfish, narcissistic jerk:

- doesn't thank his brother for saving his life.

- doesn't bother to warn George about the gym floor being opened up.

- steals George's college money.

- makes the college All-America football team but doesn't have the decency to accept a scholarship so that he can pay back his brother.

- gets married without notifying anyone in his family.

- all but accepts a job with his father-in-law, knowing full well that his brother is too nice to ask him to turn it down.

Also, I'm skeptical of his motives for flying home in the middle of a blizzard. Was he flying home to give George money, only to keep the money for himself after realizing that everyone else had already taken care of it? (If so, that's a total cheapskate jerk move.) Why else did he need to get home so soon?

Maybe, just maybe, he was jealous of all the attention that his big brother was getting, so he flew home to make sure the town didn't forget about that parade it had promised him. Sure, he gives a toast to his brother at the end. But what he's really saying is "Look at me! Don't forget my parade!"

Yeah, yeah, the guy shot down a plane.
Also took Mom’s good china to the dance, knowing full well that Alfalfa and his gang would wind up breaking it.

 
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The shark move would have been to take Potter's money, then secretly give a significant portion of it to the people who were on the verge of being foreclosed by Potter. Not only would he screw Potter out of nearly a million dollars in salary (in today's value), but he could have single-handedly decimated Potter's slumlord business from the inside.
Damn, I think you should write the sequel/alternate version. 

 
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Harry Bailey was a selfish, narcissistic jerk:

- doesn't thank his brother for saving his life.

- doesn't bother to warn George about the gym floor being opened up.

- steals George's college money.

- makes the college All-America football team but doesn't have the decency to accept a scholarship so that he can pay back his brother.

- gets married without notifying anyone in his family.

- all but accepts a job with his father-in-law, knowing full well that his brother is too nice to ask him to turn it down.

Also, I'm skeptical of his motives for flying home in the middle of a blizzard. Was he flying home to give George money, only to keep the money for himself after realizing that everyone else had already taken care of it? (If so, that's a total cheapskate jerk move.) Why else did he need to get home so soon?

Maybe, just maybe, he was jealous of all the attention that his big brother was getting, so he flew home to make sure the town didn't forget about that parade it had promised him. Sure, he gives a toast to his brother at the end. But what he's really saying is "Look at me! Don't forget my parade!"

Yeah, yeah, the guy shot down a plane.
Way to take the shine off the Greatest Generation.

1. How do you know Harry wasn't grateful to George? Just because it didn't happen on camera doesn't mean it didn't happen.

2. There was a whole crowd trying to warn George and Mary about the gym floor opening.  Harry's not the only one short on self-awareness in that family.

3. Harry didn't steal anything; George chose to stay to keep the family business going. Harry would have been as useless as Uncle Billy at that point.

4. You and I both know that George would have just returned any money Harry tried to give him; who's going to take money from a kid just starting out in life?

5. Harry hadn't accepted the job yet, his wife spoke out of turn.

Also, it was a snowstorm, not a blizzard. That's nothing to those folks in upstate New York.

George did what he did so that Harry could become what he became; anything less would have been an insult to George and their family.

The plane he shot down was going to hit a troop transport, so he saved a bunch of lives as well.

The thing is, everyone here would have done the same in Harry's shoes. Early-mid 20's, All-American sports star, fighter pilot decorated in war, he's a bulletproof rock star. George and everyone else in Bedford Falls should be thankful he even remembers them.  He's living the American Dream and you call him a selfish, narcisistic jerk?

:sarcasm:

j/k, Harry seems more like a Baby Boomer than coming from the Greatest Generation.

 
Haven't seen the Philadelphia Story but really like the remake, High Society with Bing, Grace Kelly and Sinatra
Nice. The Philadelphia Story is incredibly good imo. If you like High Society, you should go out of your way to see it. Jimmy Stewart, Katharine Hepburn and Cary Grant is the best trio of stars Hollywood has ever assembled in one film. 

 
This and Anatomy of a Murder are my favorite Stewart roles
I liked him as frontiersman Linus Rawlings in How the West was Won.  There is a scene as a family he is helping gets ambushed by River Pirates.  He confronts the River Pirates, or more accurately he tries to infiltrate them.  Naturally the Pirates intend him harm.  They ply him with liquor and the pretty pirate gal asks him if he wants to go with her to the back of the cave, alone, to view the varmint in the pit, meaning an actual critter in a pit, not a metaphor, though it is a great one and is of course a metaphor.  They mean to waylay him when he is alone.

Anyhow, he escapes but needs to explain himself to the pretty pure daughter of the family he is leading and with whom he is falling for, a bit.  He wants to explain that he is the wrong type for her.  He stumbles badly through the story but then looks at her and says something like "Don't you understand, I'm the kind of fella who is always going to go with the pretty pirate girl to view the varmint in the pit". Of course he does it in his delivery.  Classic.  Frankly I too will always go with the pretty pirate girl to view the varmint in the pit  no matter how often it turns out badly because pretty pirate girl wanting to show you her critter in the pit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qV_bk0--xA

 
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This and Anatomy of a Murder are my favorite Stewart roles
Anatomy of a Murder and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence are an incredible pairing for a late stage career. Stewart continued to reinvent himself and thus was in some of the best movies of 4 different decades. 

 
Anatomy of a Murder and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence are an incredible pairing for a late stage career. Stewart continued to reinvent himself and thus was in some of the best movies of 4 different decades. 
John Ford chose Jimmy Stewart for that role because he believed that Stewart was the only actor John Wayne would ever play a supporting role to. Wayne had a reverence for Stewart that he did not have for anyone else--not Gary Cooper, or Henry Fonda, or Clark Gable, or Cary Grant, only Jimmy Stewart. 

 
John Ford chose Jimmy Stewart for that role because he believed that Stewart was the only actor John Wayne would ever play a supporting role to. Wayne had a reverence for Stewart that he did not have for anyone else--not Gary Cooper, or Henry Fonda, or Clark Gable, or Cary Grant, only Jimmy Stewart. 
Didn't know that. Thanks

 
What was Sam Wainright thinking when he had Donna Reed, yet was fooling around with her?
I have 2 guesses:

1. She would always be his childhood pal's kid sister, so anything they had was never going anywhere anyway.

2. He was in NYC, she was in Bedford Falls, so she'd never know.

And since we know that Mary only had eyes for George, she was probably dating Sam just to keep her mother off her back.

 
I have 2 guesses:

1. She would always be his childhood pal's kid sister, so anything they had was never going anywhere anyway.

2. He was in NYC, she was in Bedford Falls, so she'd never know.

And since we know that Mary only had eyes for George, she was probably dating Sam just to keep her mother off her back.
I meant her. For a guy sitting on a fortune in plastics, his tap meter should be much higher.

 
So reckless. Things were a little different then I guess. 
 

Also had me wondering, if he had shot and killed George there, what happens?  The angels just give him a free pass and go back to the old reality?  Like this was just a simulation sort of thing?  Or is it like dying in the Matrix or in a Freddy Krueger dream and you really die?  And if he died, is the world stuck in the crappy George-less reality forever?
This put my brain in a pretzel for the last hour.

Then I thought, maybe it's like Fight Club where there was really no Clarence.  Maybe that was all in George's head while he was having some sort of manic breakdown?

 
I have 2 guesses:

1. She would always be his childhood pal's kid sister, so anything they had was never going anywhere anyway.

2. He was in NYC, she was in Bedford Falls, so she'd never know.

And since we know that Mary only had eyes for George, she was probably dating Sam just to keep her mother off her back.
I mean I know it's a family movie and all but does anyone else tingle a tad when she says "hes making VIOLENT love to me Mother"  I mean come on.  

 
I always get a kick out of the part where Jimmy Stewart and Ward Bond watch a hottie walk by. Bond says "I think I'll go home and see what the wife is doing" and Stewart answers with his characteristic "Uh-huh."
People forget the codes they used to have to make movies by. But then people forget a lot of things.

 
I mean I know it's a family movie and all but does anyone else tingle a tad when she says "hes making VIOLENT love to me Mother"  I mean come on.  
I thought it was kind of racy for the time.  Or at least what we're told of the time.  Turns out times weren't all that different.

 
I mean I know it's a family movie and all but does anyone else tingle a tad when she says "hes making VIOLENT love to me Mother"  I mean come on.  
Back then, “making love” had a more innocuous meaning relating to kissing/hugging.

I agree it was still a bit risqué regardless, but it wasn’t Capra’s style to toe the Hollywood line. Having suicide as a prevailing theme wasn’t exactly warm and fuzzy stuff either.

 
People forget the codes they used to have to make movies by. But then people forget a lot of things.
I agree it was still a bit risqué regardless, but it wasn’t Capra’s style to toe the Hollywood line. Having suicide as a prevailing theme wasn’t exactly warm and fuzzy stuff either.
Capra inserted a bunch of things that were risque or direct violations of the Hays Code:

- attempted suicide

- showing a man and woman in bed together

- reference to impotence

- some of the suggestive stuff involving Violet, plus the implication that she was "for sale"

- black equality (George goes to an integrated high school, and there are black townsfolk in the background of a few scenes)

- disrespecting authority figures

- punching a cop and getting away with it

- showing police incompetence

- allowing Potter to get away with stealing the $8000. (Back then, movies were required to show the consequences of crime.)

All of the above is part of the reason why the movie has remained relevant for over 70 years. If they had sanitized everything into a phony saccharine story without a hint of evil, then it might have made more money in the '40s but it would have been completely forgotten in 10 years time.

 
Capra inserted a bunch of things that were risque or direct violations of the Hays Code:

- attempted suicide

- showing a man and woman in bed together

- reference to impotence

- some of the suggestive stuff involving Violet, plus the implication that she was "for sale"

- black equality (George goes to an integrated high school, and there are black townsfolk in the background of a few scenes)

- disrespecting authority figures

- punching a cop and getting away with it

- showing police incompetence

- allowing Potter to get away with stealing the $8000. (Back then, movies were required to show the consequences of crime.)

All of the above is part of the reason why the movie has remained relevant for over 70 years. If they had sanitized everything into a phony saccharine story without a hint of evil, then it might have made more money in the '40s but it would have been completely forgotten in 10 years time.
Which was nothing new for him. The US Govt was not happy about Mr. Smith Goes to Washington as it portrayed the US Congress as corrupt. Lots of lawmakers objected quite loudly and it was a pretty big controversy. 

 
Rough ranking of Stewart movies (his catalog of great movies is as deep as anyone)

  1. It's a Wonderful Life
  2. Rear Window
  3. The Philadelphia Story
  4. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
  5. Vertigo
  6. Anatomy of a Murder
  7. Winchester 73
  8. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
  9. Rope
  10. The Shootist
  11. You Can't Take It With You
  12. The Shop Around the Corner
  13. Harvey
 
I have 2 guesses:

1. She would always be his childhood pal's kid sister, so anything they had was never going anywhere anyway.

2. He was in NYC, she was in Bedford Falls, so she'd never know.

And since we know that Mary only had eyes for George, she was probably dating Sam just to keep her mother off her back.
London?

 
Nice. The Philadelphia Story is incredibly good imo. If you like High Society, you should go out of your way to see it. Jimmy Stewart, Katharine Hepburn and Cary Grant is the best trio of stars Hollywood has ever assembled in one film. 
Every Avenger movie would like a word with the you sir.   :coffee:

:fishing:    :lmao:

 

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