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It's Been a While Since We Had a Music Draft (1 Viewer)

AcerFC said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Eephus said:
Genre themed mixtape: Punk, Dance, Yacht Rock, Covers, Country, Prog, your suggestion here

Era mixtape: 2005-2014 or we could repeat one we've done already

"Songs about..." mixtape: :shrug:

DID Album draft: Theme or era TBD

Draft a band: We've done this before and the results were interesting although I can't find them via search.

Some combination of the above or something completely different
Most people hate my more unstructured drafts, but what about a "YOUR OWN THEME HERE" mixtape draft. In other words, your mixtape needs a theme (maybe it's a break-up tape, maybe it's a make-out tape, maybe it's dedicated to the Summer of 1997, or Manchester, or whatever), but it's your own choice. Not just "songs I really like."
love this idea but if one out two of your must have songs get sniped, you are screwed
That's highly unlikely to happen, don't you think? I suppose my idea wouldn't need to be a draft at all. It would just be guys putting together a mixtape that kind of reflects a theme. So I get that criticism.

But I think the categories stuff is what really causes the sniping and worse (for me at least) the focus on stuff that I expect.
It could be interesting to not reveal the theme and see if people can figure it out. I guess that is a pretty objective judge of how well you did. See if a theme was too on the nose or impossible to really figure out.

 
I should point out that you can have certain requirements without having category judging. I ran either the second or third band draft. I had requirements (you needed to draft one woman, one person under 30 or 35 (I forget which) and one minority). But there was no judging on who had the best woman or the best guitarist. The drafters created a set list (someone in your band had to either have written or recorded every song) and the voting was pretty much based on the gestalt feel of the band and the submitted set.

You could do the same with a themed mix-tape draft. You could still make people draft songs with female vocalists or guitar solos or string parts or songs recorded before 1970 or after 2000 or whatever. But that would just determine eligibility. It would still be about making a sort of cohesive mix tape under the constraints.

Just an idea.

 
Eephus - Flop & BL are a team. Definitely in if you'll have us.

Hate judging, completely unnecessary & won't add anything to the fun. Please don't cave on that later...

 
zamboni said:
A few years ago, John Madden's Lunchbox mentioned a Billboard #1 Albums draft. Not a bad idea since it would cover a whole bunch of eras and genres.
It is now difficult for me to draft during the day and there are a number of other reasons I stopped running drafts

a) Timschochet kept running his mega drafts, taking the majority of drafters who do the music drafts away for months on end

b) I got sick of people wanting to do 3ITC or just finishing their drafts. To me the beauty is in discussing the music and I enjoy the early rounds when that happens. Once everyone wants to shoot their load though it gets boring and no one is paying much attention

c) I probably haven't listened to much new music post 2011

 
I'm In.

Not bothered about the theme, whatever Eephus wants to do.

I plan on doing a Mixtape Thread/Draft sooner or later, but will wait to see what Eephus wants to do here.

 
I'm pretty much done running drafts. The judging got too tough. Also we've exhausted most topics. I might be interested in being a participant though.

 
How about "What Songs Played the Biggest Part of My Life the Most" mix?

And you have to explain why for each one.

 
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Lots of good ideas but nothing near a consensus, so in an attempt to please everyone/nobody I'll throw this one into the discussion.

Dealer's Choice Mixtape Draft

Each participant chooses a song category before the draft begins. Categories can be a genre, an era, an artist, a song about a given subject, a song containing something (e.g. sax solo, spoken word interlude), or anything else within reason.

All participants draft songs to complete a mix containing one song from every category chosen in the pre-draft. The twist is that players have to wait until the final round to pick a song from the category they nominated.

No time limits for the mix, no judging, just music.

 
Something else I was throwing around in my head. Might be a better idea up there than in actuality

Everyone picks a band. Then someone else gets that band and has to put together a 12-15 song mix tape of that artist. Could wind up getting a very different perspective on a band you like. Of course this entails picking bands with enough music and would also involve people listening to new albums they have not heard (hopefully)

Rules could be something like no more than one song per album, no bands who have had a number one hit (just spitballing here)

 
zamboni said:
A few years ago, John Madden's Lunchbox mentioned a Billboard #1 Albums draft. Not a bad idea since it would cover a whole bunch of eras and genres.
b) I got sick of people wanting to do 3ITC or just finishing their drafts. To me the beauty is in discussing the music and I enjoy the early rounds when that happens. Once everyone wants to shoot their load though it gets boring and no one is paying much attention
This has always been a big problem with drafts. People lose interest and just becomes a cluster**** free-for-all at the end. Definitely takes away the fun.

 
I should point out that you can have certain requirements without having category judging. I ran either the second or third band draft. I had requirements (you needed to draft one woman, one person under 30 or 35 (I forget which) and one minority). But there was no judging on who had the best woman or the best guitarist. The drafters created a set list (someone in your band had to either have written or recorded every song) and the voting was pretty much based on the gestalt feel of the band and the submitted set.

You could do the same with a themed mix-tape draft. You could still make people draft songs with female vocalists or guitar solos or string parts or songs recorded before 1970 or after 2000 or whatever. But that would just determine eligibility. It would still be about making a sort of cohesive mix tape under the constraints.

Just an idea.
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eta: I won, right?

 
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Lots of good ideas but nothing near a consensus, so in an attempt to please everyone/nobody I'll throw this one into the discussion.

Dealer's Choice Mixtape Draft

Each participant chooses a song category before the draft begins. Categories can be a genre, an era, an artist, a song about a given subject, a song containing something (e.g. sax solo, spoken word interlude), or anything else within reason.

All participants draft songs to complete a mix containing one song from every category chosen in the pre-draft. The twist is that players have to wait until the final round to pick a song from the category they nominated.

No time limits for the mix, no judging, just music.
I like this idea a lot myself. The wide range of categories should keep things fresh.

 
zamboni said:
A few years ago, John Madden's Lunchbox mentioned a Billboard #1 Albums draft. Not a bad idea since it would cover a whole bunch of eras and genres.
b) I got sick of people wanting to do 3ITC or just finishing their drafts. To me the beauty is in discussing the music and I enjoy the early rounds when that happens. Once everyone wants to shoot their load though it gets boring and no one is paying much attention
This has always been a big problem with drafts. People lose interest and just becomes a cluster**** free-for-all at the end. Definitely takes away the fun.
Those drafts obviously were too long. Shorten this one. I might play. Also like the drafters drafting categories idea. We'll get some jazz in finally.

 
Lots of good ideas but nothing near a consensus, so in an attempt to please everyone/nobody I'll throw this one into the discussion.

Dealer's Choice Mixtape Draft

Each participant chooses a song category before the draft begins. Categories can be a genre, an era, an artist, a song about a given subject, a song containing something (e.g. sax solo, spoken word interlude), or anything else within reason.

All participants draft songs to complete a mix containing one song from every category chosen in the pre-draft. The twist is that players have to wait until the final round to pick a song from the category they nominated.

No time limits for the mix, no judging, just music.
I like this idea a lot myself. The wide range of categories should keep things fresh.
yeah sounds fun

 
Everyone picks a band. Then someone else gets that band and has to put together a 12-15 song mix tape of that artist. Could wind up getting a very different perspective on a band you like. Of course this entails picking bands with enough music and would also involve people listening to new albums they have not heard (hopefully)

Rules could be something like no more than one song per album, no bands who have had a number one hit (just spitballing here)
Strong concept ... only thing I'd tweak is giving all drafters a chance to contribute to all the band mixtapes (or maybe all but one or two, to give drafters a shot at bowing out for bands they know little about or don't really appreciate). So instead of one person doing a full mixtape for a band someone else nominated, several people get in on filling out each band mixtape.

 
Dealer's Choice Mixtape Draft

Each participant chooses a song category before the draft begins. Categories can be a genre, an era, an artist, a song about a given subject, a song containing something (e.g. sax solo, spoken word interlude), or anything else within reason.

All participants draft songs to complete a mix containing one song from every category chosen in the pre-draft. The twist is that players have to wait until the final round to pick a song from the category they nominated.
Like this best if all involved get to pick more than one category each -- say three or more.

It could also be that every drafter proposes one each of a Genre, an Artist, a Subject, and a Song Containing Something (or call it, maybe, "Specfic Song Attribute"). Other categorizations could work, too (Record Label, Songwriter, etc.).

 
Dealer's Choice Mixtape Draft

Each participant chooses a song category before the draft begins. Categories can be a genre, an era, an artist, a song about a given subject, a song containing something (e.g. sax solo, spoken word interlude), or anything else within reason.

All participants draft songs to complete a mix containing one song from every category chosen in the pre-draft. The twist is that players have to wait until the final round to pick a song from the category they nominated.
Like this best if all involved get to pick more than one category each -- say three or more.

It could also be that every drafter proposes one each of a Genre, an Artist, a Subject, and a Song Containing Something (or call it, maybe, "Specfic Song Attribute"). Other categorizations could work, too (Record Label, Songwriter, etc.).
It all depends on how many participants we get. I'd like to hold the mixes under an hour. The point is to get them heard, not to create magnum opuses that can't be consumed in a single sitting.

I'm OK w/ your previous idea to allow everybody a mulligan on one category of their choosing.

 
Something else I was throwing around in my head. Might be a better idea up there than in actuality

Everyone picks a band. Then someone else gets that band and has to put together a 12-15 song mix tape of that artist. Could wind up getting a very different perspective on a band you like. Of course this entails picking bands with enough music and would also involve people listening to new albums they have not heard (hopefully)

Rules could be something like no more than one song per album, no bands who have had a number one hit (just spitballing here)
This could be interesting, but there would be no need for a draft. And I wonder whether people would stay interested if they got a band/genre they didn't like.

 
Lots of good ideas but nothing near a consensus, so in an attempt to please everyone/nobody I'll throw this one into the discussion.

Dealer's Choice Mixtape Draft

Each participant chooses a song category before the draft begins. Categories can be a genre, an era, an artist, a song about a given subject, a song containing something (e.g. sax solo, spoken word interlude), or anything else within reason.

All participants draft songs to complete a mix containing one song from every category chosen in the pre-draft. The twist is that players have to wait until the final round to pick a song from the category they nominated.

No time limits for the mix, no judging, just music.
I like this idea a lot myself. The wide range of categories should keep things fresh.
yeah sounds fun
I'm in for this.

 
Eephus said:
Doug B said:
Dealer's Choice Mixtape Draft

Each participant chooses a song category before the draft begins. Categories can be a genre, an era, an artist, a song about a given subject, a song containing something (e.g. sax solo, spoken word interlude), or anything else within reason.

All participants draft songs to complete a mix containing one song from every category chosen in the pre-draft. The twist is that players have to wait until the final round to pick a song from the category they nominated.
Like this best if all involved get to pick more than one category each -- say three or more.

It could also be that every drafter proposes one each of a Genre, an Artist, a Subject, and a Song Containing Something (or call it, maybe, "Specfic Song Attribute"). Other categorizations could work, too (Record Label, Songwriter, etc.).
It all depends on how many participants we get. I'd like to hold the mixes under an hour. The point is to get them heard, not to create magnum opuses that can't be consumed in a single sitting.

I'm OK w/ your previous idea to allow everybody a mulligan on one category of their choosing.
So we'd be uploading our mixes in this one? Nice. I like that, but since megaupload imploded and I subscribed to spotify, I'd need some direction.

Also, glad I don't live in Doug B's brain. Complicated place.

 
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JZilla said:
As always I vote for 80 minutes
I wasn't going to put any time constraints on the mix other than the number of tracks. If you can fit "Echoes" or "Close to the Edge" into the designated themes, more power to you.

 
JZilla said:
As always I vote for 80 minutes
I wasn't going to put any time constraints on the mix other than the number of tracks. If you can fit "Echoes" or "Close to the Edge" into the designated themes, more power to you.
80 Minutes fits for a CD, So I'm in for that as well.

My only concern if we have a "mulligan", what if someone picks a category such as:

Bavarian Nose Flute songs of the 1790's or

Song by an an artists starting with X, excluding XTC or

Pick an artist Timschochet likes from the last 30 years

Then these categories are going to get mulliganed in big style.

My choice is no Mulligans, but the commish can veto a topic if it is too avant garde

 
How about "What Songs Played the Biggest Part of My Life the Most" mix?

And you have to explain why for each one.
been thinking about suggesting a music draft too. this was similar to my idea as well - a mix of songs that chronicles the evolution of our musical tastes or something.

 
JZilla said:
As always I vote for 80 minutes
I wasn't going to put any time constraints on the mix other than the number of tracks. If you can fit "Echoes" or "Close to the Edge" into the designated themes, more power to you.
80 Minutes fits for a CD, So I'm in for that as well.

My only concern if we have a "mulligan", what if someone picks a category such as:

Bavarian Nose Flute songs of the 1790's or

Song by an an artists starting with X, excluding XTC or

Pick an artist Timschochet likes from the last 30 years

Then these categories are going to get mulliganed in big style.

My choice is no Mulligans, but the commish can veto a topic if it is too avant garde
What's a CD? :confused:

 
JZilla said:
As always I vote for 80 minutes
I wasn't going to put any time constraints on the mix other than the number of tracks. If you can fit "Echoes" or "Close to the Edge" into the designated themes, more power to you.
80 Minutes fits for a CD, So I'm in for that as well.

My only concern if we have a "mulligan", what if someone picks a category such as:

Bavarian Nose Flute songs of the 1790's or

Song by an an artists starting with X, excluding XTC or

Pick an artist Timschochet likes from the last 30 years

Then these categories are going to get mulliganed in big style.

My choice is no Mulligans, but the commish can veto a topic if it is too avant garde
What's a CD? :confused:
Cervical Diaspora. hth.

 
I will go along with whatever everyone wants to do and/or Eephus' determination but agree with several others who aren't in support of the "have to google #### that I have never heard before in order to meet the esoteric category label."

 

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