Jared from Subway got what he deserved (1 Viewer)

[Dickies]

If someone has these type of urges but never acts on them or seeks out images in any form, is that individual still sick, twisted and/or have a disorder?

Yes, absolutely. If you're sexually attracted to minors you've got some bad wiring.

You've got bad wiring if you can't find a 17 year-old that you're sexually attracted to.

 

[Zow]

6. I'd note that Jared has not been charged with sleeping with a six year old and, from what I can gather, has not even been charged with attempting or soliciting sex with a 6 year old. He had sex with 16 and 17 year olds - suggest that he's a hebephile or ephebophile. He's also been charged with possessing child pornography. Nothing indicates that that he produced any porn or tried to sleep with a small child. He's committed bad and disgusting crimes, but those suggesting he should get the death penalty or that what he did is worse than murdering two people in cold blood are irrational.

I would agree except that the complaint states his request was 'the younger the better'. Murder is a higher crime than any sexual assualt even on a minor. Should he get the death penalty? No, though that would feel right but for the legal system that would be out of place. I certainly would not shed a tear if he got shanked in prison and bled out on the shower floor after being abused- I have no sympathy for someone like him. NONE. And the 'younger the better' makes the actual age of the victims a matter of opportunity in my mind so I am not too worried about them being 16 or 17. He is still a sick pig.

7. A complaint is simply a list of allegations amounting to evidence which the state believes provides probable cause for the defendant to be charged with a crime. What is stated in the complaint are supposed facts that have not been subject to any sort of confrontation or refutation, whether by cross-examination or otherwise. In other words, when you see a complaint the alleged facts should be taken with a grain of salt. Here, we have no idea as to the credibility of the speaker providing the police with this hearsay statement and are not privy to the context of which the statement may have been made. Instead, a more reliable source of facts on this case would have been the "factual basis" provided by either the State or the defendant (which the other side confirmed) when the plea was taken. I have not seen any media reports providing a verbatim account of what the factual basis was for Jared's guilty plea. To your point, I think it's safe to call Jared a sick pig, but it's somewhat of a stretch to say he'd sleep with a pre-pubescent child or that he should be imprisoned for decades.

 

[EYLive]

If someone has these type of urges but never acts on them or seeks out images in any form, is that individual still sick, twisted and/or have a disorder?

Yes, absolutely. If you're sexually attracted to minors you've got some bad wiring.

I see.

But it's not really that person's fault if nature/God/the universe wired them that way, is it? If it was up to them, they would never chose to have that type of attraction.

If they understand that society does not approve of their attraction, and they successfully deny their own urges, don't they get a little credit for not acting on them?

I think someone with these urges needs to seek professional help. As for not acting on the urges.... credit for what? Not violating child or contributing to those acts through consumtion of child porn? Do you give credit to the average guy who sees a woman and has all sorts of thoughts about her but does not rape her? No. There is no extra credit. It is what is expected.

How/where do we draw the line on where professional help is required? If it's a sexual preference due to "bad wiring" as some term it, or a bad childhood as Coeur de Lion stated, these people have been dealt a bad hand. If they never act on it and are otherwise unremarkable people, do they really need help?

 

[Buckfast 1]

If someone has these type of urges but never acts on them or seeks out images in any form, is that individual still sick, twisted and/or have a disorder?

Yes, absolutely. If you're sexually attracted to minors you've got some bad wiring.

You've got bad wiring if you can't find a 17 year-old that you're sexually attracted to.

Amazing how quickly the FFA can go from drooling over a bunch of 18-year old Alabama sorority coeds to condemning a man to death for having sex with a 17-year old.

 

[cstu]

If someone has these type of urges but never acts on them or seeks out images in any form, is that individual still sick, twisted and/or have a disorder?

Yes, absolutely. If you're sexually attracted to minors you've got some bad wiring.

You've got bad wiring if you can't find a 17 year-old that you're sexually attracted to.

Amazing how quickly the FFA can go from drooling over a bunch of 18-year old Alabama sorority coeds to condemning a man to death for having sex with a 17-year old.

Again, the issue is that he was selecting his 16/17 year olds from a list that had 6 year olds on it.

 

[Donkey Derp]

If someone has these type of urges but never acts on them or seeks out images in any form, is that individual still sick, twisted and/or have a disorder?

Yes, absolutely. If you're sexually attracted to minors you've got some bad wiring.

You've got bad wiring if you can't find a 17 year-old that you're sexually attracted to.

Amazing how quickly the FFA can go from drooling over a bunch of 18-year old Alabama sorority coeds to condemning a man to death for having sex with a 17-year old.

Part of the case involves images Fogle received from Russell Taylor, the head of Fogle's foundation. According to the complaint, Taylor sent Fogle photos and videos from hidden cameras in Taylor's house, featuring children as young as approximately 6.

Uh, I'm pretty sure that is more of the problem.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

If someone has these type of urges but never acts on them or seeks out images in any form, is that individual still sick, twisted and/or have a disorder?

Yes, absolutely. If you're sexually attracted to minors you've got some bad wiring.

You've got bad wiring if you can't find a 17 year-old that you're sexually attracted to.

Amazing how quickly the FFA can go from drooling over a bunch of 18-year old Alabama sorority coeds to condemning a man to death for having sex with a 17-year old.

Again, the issue is that he was selecting his 16/17 year olds from a list that had 6 year olds on it.

Where are people getting this from?

Here is what is alleged in the charging document.

1. Taylor provided Fogle with child pornography that Taylor produced through hidden cameras in his house (featuring Minor Victims 1-12). Those victims were as young as 13-14.

2. Taylor provided Fogle with child pornography that Taylor had otherwise procured over the internet. That pornography featured children as young as 6 in some cases.

3. Fogle showed at least one other person child pornography he received from Taylor.

4. Fogle traveled to have sex with minors. The only two times mentioned with specificity are with a 17 year old.

5. Fogle conspired with escorts to procure prostitutes that were younger than 17. 16 was acceptable but "the younger the better." Presumably there is some limitation built into the age of girls that are involved in sex trafficking, so while it is safe to assume that he may have meant 13 or 14, it seems unlikely that he meant 6.

 

[McGarnicle]

I heard on the radio while they were interviewing a former convict. He said that for sure Jared is going to get raped and or killed.

Usually famous inmates are kept away from the general population for their own protection, or so we're told. I'm sure lots of prison wardens are sadistic bastards though. If he gets thrown to the wolves and ends up with a size 47 poop chute, doubtful anyone on the outside will find out or care.So he's home with an ankle bracelet now...gotta think there's a good chance he offs himself.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Yeah if you are looking for "minors" and you get a 17-year-old, where do you draw the line? At 14? 12?

There is a reason we have these laws, we simply can't have adult men in their 40s taking advantage of young people who still don't have the physical power to defend themselves, the maturity to discern adult situations, or the experience to really understand how bad people can be. Then there is the whole human trafficking culture which it seems Fogle was trying to manipulate to his advantage. He's not a good person. This isn't like banging some chick you met at the biker rally who said she's 20 but really is only 17. This is a conscious and unscrupulous decision to have sex with minors.

 

[Christo]

It'd almost be worth it to be thrown in prison just to hear them serenade him with "Five . . . Five Dollar . . . Five Dollar Footlong" his first night. You know it's going to happen.

 

[Hang 10]

It'd almost be worth it to be thrown in prison just to hear them serenade him with "Five . . . Five Dollar . . . Five Dollar Footlong" his first night. You know it's going to happen.

 

[Capella]

Size 47 poop chute is a good fantasy football team name.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Size 47 poop chute is a good fantasy football team name.

Gluten-Free Jailbait Jareds

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

How does his wife even begin to explain to her kids what their Father has done?

 

[McGarnicle]

How does his wife even begin to explain to her kids what their Father has done?

Your father put his meat in some buns that weren't quite ready yet.

 

[Hang 10]

Your dad liked to eat fresh.

 

[Insein]

How does his wife even begin to explain to her kids what their Father has done?

Daddy's leaving us kids. He made some bad choices and we won't be seeing him for a very long time.

Done.

 

[Brony]

Okay so let me clear some things up:

1. Fogle has been charged and has taken a plea in the Federal Court. This isn't state courts so your understanding of the laws/sentencing ranges in your local jurisdiction don't apply.

2. He has taken a plea. I can tell you from experience that plea negotiations with federal prosecutors are not easy. It's very likely that the assigned prosecutor followed his or her office's plea policy. I'm guessing Jared's plea fell within that policy and probably only slightly modified his potential sentencing ranges. He's almost certainly been set for a sentencing date like a month or two out and has been ordered to meet with probation. However, he's NOT getting probation - probation has designated pre-sentence report writers.

3. What will apply is the Federal Sentencing guidelines. The guidelines are laid out in a manual that is over 500 pages in length. I cannot stress enough how convoluted these guidelines are but basically what will happen is that a federal probation officer (unlike your local probation officer, these probation officers are usually rockstars and may even be former lawyers or law enforcement) will examine particular factors about the defendant and draft a "pre-sentence report" that will apply these sentencing factors to Jared's ranges and proffer a sentence within that range. What is being reported in the media is that Jared will get at least five years. The State won't argue for more than 12.5, which makes me conclude that Jared's top end range is probably around this (I haven't looked at the guidelines for a few years and don't have time to look up the exact range). This pre-sentence report will have a lot of influence and will be considered by the judge to be the most neutral/objective argument for the length of his incarceration. Jared's attorney will argue for a "downward departure" and argue for factors that may convince the judge to drop below the five years. In my experience, it's incredibly rare for a judge to deviate below the bottom end. In my opinion, Jared will receive more than five years.

4. There is a Supreme Court case (U.S. v. Booker) which actually says that the guidelines are not mandatory so really Jared could get about anything. Nonetheless, it's likely the judge will find Jared should get somewhere between the 5-12.5 (my bet is around ten years).

5. I practice predominantly in Arizona. I defend people charged with similar offenses. Many of these people are cases I take on appointment (meaning at no cost to the defendant). Arizona is a very "tough" state when it comes to sentencing and is probably one of the few states on par with the federal sentencing scheme. In general, the "going rate" for someone charged with similar crimes in my jurisdiction is 5-10 years, usually accompanied by a period of probation and always accompanied with lifetime registration. Accordingly, I don't see this as a case where Jared got a significantly reduced sentenced or was cut any breaks because he's a celebrity.

6. I'd note that Jared has not been charged with sleeping with a six year old and, from what I can gather, has not even been charged with attempting or soliciting sex with a 6 year old. He had sex with 16 and 17 year olds - suggest that he's a hebephile or ephebophile. He's also been charged with possessing child pornography. Nothing indicates that that he produced any porn or tried to sleep with a small child. He's committed bad and disgusting crimes, but those suggesting he should get the death penalty or that what he did is worse than murdering two people in cold blood are irrational.

2 bowls of split plea soup to go, eh.

 

[sports_fan]

Man it always sucks to find out your childhood sports heroes were scumbags IRL

 

[Insein]

Man it always sucks to find out your childhood sports heroes were scumbags IRL

Wait what?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Some big black dude will give him a foot long in prison

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Some big black dude will give him a foot long in prison

Why a black dude?

 

[Insein]

Some big black dude will give him a foot long in prison

Why a black dude?

You know... Because its prison.

 

[flapgreen]

Man it always sucks to find out your childhood sports heroes were scumbags IRL

 

[Zow]

Man it always sucks to find out your childhood sports heroes were scumbags

IRL

Mark chmura?

 

[flapgreen]

Man it always sucks to find out your childhood sports heroes were scumbags

IRL

Mark chmura?

Didn't he just bang a 16 year old, though?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Man it always sucks to find out your childhood sports heroes were scumbags

IRL

Mark chmura?

Didn't he just bang a 16 year old, though?

GIVE HIM THE CHAIR!!!!!!!

 

[flapgreen]

I'm cool with Jared dying but I always thought Chmura was made out to be like a dude raping a child.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Some big black dude will give him a foot long in prison

Why a black dude?

You know... Because its prison.

watch porn and learn things

 

[Insein]

Man it always sucks to find out your childhood sports heroes were scumbags

IRL

Mark chmura?

Didn't he just bang a 16 year old, though?

GIVE HIM THE CHAIR!!!!!!!

Boom!

 

[McGarnicle]

Some big black dude will give him a foot long in prison

Why a black dude?

You know... Because its prison.

watch porn and learn things

You watch gay prison porn?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Chimura should get the chair just for being a Packer.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Some big black dude will give him a foot long in prison

Why a black dude?

You know... Because its prison.

watch porn and learn things

You watch gay prison porn?

sure...beats watching child porn

 

[flapgreen]

Chimura should get the chair just for being a Packer.

I want him dead!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Chimura should get the chair just for being a Packer.

I want him dead!

bury him in cheese

 

[dickey moe]

It'd almost be worth it to be thrown in prison just to hear them serenade him with "Five . . . Five Dollar . . . Five Dollar Footlong" his first night. You know it's going to happen.

 

[cstu]

Chimura should get the chair just for being a Packer.

I want him dead!

bury him in cheese

America stands for freedom - but if you think you're free - try having sex with a 16 year old and not getting buried in the cheese!

 

[Parmcat]

Some big black dude will give him a foot long in prison

Why a black dude?

Maybe the white dude will bang him 3 times!

 

[Tom Servo]

I heard on the radio while they were interviewing a former convict. He said that for sure Jared is going to get raped and or killed.

Usually famous inmates are kept away from the general population for their own protection, or so we're told. I'm sure lots of prison wardens are sadistic bastards though. If he gets thrown to the wolves and ends up with a size 47 poop chute, doubtful anyone on the outside will find out or care.So he's home with an ankle bracelet now...gotta think there's a good chance he offs himself.

This. The famous, or your average run-of-the-mill pedo (as if there is such a thing...) are often segregated. The prison rape fantasies you guys have is really quite weird.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

In prison, fellow inmates derisively call pedophiles "chesters," "tree jumpers" and "short eyes."

 

[Rayderr]

In prison, fellow inmates derisively call pedophiles "chesters," "tree jumpers" and "short eyes."

ok, 5 years of Jared being called "Chester" seems like more than enough punishment.

 

[heckmanm]

Okay so let me clear some things up:

1. Fogle has been charged and has taken a plea in the Federal Court. This isn't state courts so your understanding of the laws/sentencing ranges in your local jurisdiction don't apply.

2. He has taken a plea. I can tell you from experience that plea negotiations with federal prosecutors are not easy. It's very likely that the assigned prosecutor followed his or her office's plea policy. I'm guessing Jared's plea fell within that policy and probably only slightly modified his potential sentencing ranges. He's almost certainly been set for a sentencing date like a month or two out and has been ordered to meet with probation. However, he's NOT getting probation - probation has designated pre-sentence report writers.

3. What will apply is the Federal Sentencing guidelines. The guidelines are laid out in a manual that is over 500 pages in length. I cannot stress enough how convoluted these guidelines are but basically what will happen is that a federal probation officer (unlike your local probation officer, these probation officers are usually rockstars and may even be former lawyers or law enforcement) will examine particular factors about the defendant and draft a "pre-sentence report" that will apply these sentencing factors to Jared's ranges and proffer a sentence within that range. What is being reported in the media is that Jared will get at least five years. The State won't argue for more than 12.5, which makes me conclude that Jared's top end range is probably around this (I haven't looked at the guidelines for a few years and don't have time to look up the exact range). This pre-sentence report will have a lot of influence and will be considered by the judge to be the most neutral/objective argument for the length of his incarceration. Jared's attorney will argue for a "downward departure" and argue for factors that may convince the judge to drop below the five years. In my experience, it's incredibly rare for a judge to deviate below the bottom end. In my opinion, Jared will receive more than five years.

4. There is a Supreme Court case (U.S. v. Booker) which actually says that the guidelines are not mandatory so really Jared could get about anything. Nonetheless, it's likely the judge will find Jared should get somewhere between the 5-12.5 (my bet is around ten years).

5. I practice predominantly in Arizona. I defend people charged with similar offenses. Many of these people are cases I take on appointment (meaning at no cost to the defendant). Arizona is a very "tough" state when it comes to sentencing and is probably one of the few states on par with the federal sentencing scheme. In general, the "going rate" for someone charged with similar crimes in my jurisdiction is 5-10 years, usually accompanied by a period of probation and always accompanied with lifetime registration. Accordingly, I don't see this as a case where Jared got a significantly reduced sentenced or was cut any breaks because he's a celebrity.

6. I'd note that Jared has not been charged with sleeping with a six year old and, from what I can gather, has not even been charged with attempting or soliciting sex with a 6 year old. He had sex with 16 and 17 year olds - suggest that he's a hebephile or ephebophile. He's also been charged with possessing child pornography. Nothing indicates that that he produced any porn or tried to sleep with a small child. He's committed bad and disgusting crimes, but those suggesting he should get the death penalty or that what he did is worse than murdering two people in cold blood are irrational.

2 bowls of split plea soup to go, eh.

I got a bleedin' nose!

 

[kentric]

Is this the same prostitution service Lawrence Taylor was using?

The woman who LT slept with portrayed herself as 18. Big difference here with regard to intent. LT just wanted to bang an 18 y.o. whereas Jared supposedly wanted someone younger than 17.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I just heard something interesting a few weeks ago. The production of the Bronco stopped exclusively because of the negative relation to the OJ Simpson chase/story.

The Bronco is no more because of OJ. I had never realized that.

So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...

Yeah, the same people that put Hertz right out of business after OJ happened.

Do they sell broncos anymore?

, great question.

Not sure CCC2's source (from Otis' classic cars thread)

I honestly don't remember.

 

[Chadstroma]

6. I'd note that Jared has not been charged with sleeping with a six year old and, from what I can gather, has not even been charged with attempting or soliciting sex with a 6 year old. He had sex with 16 and 17 year olds - suggest that he's a hebephile or ephebophile. He's also been charged with possessing child pornography. Nothing indicates that that he produced any porn or tried to sleep with a small child. He's committed bad and disgusting crimes, but those suggesting he should get the death penalty or that what he did is worse than murdering two people in cold blood are irrational.

I would agree except that the complaint states his request was 'the younger the better'. Murder is a higher crime than any sexual assualt even on a minor. Should he get the death penalty? No, though that would feel right but for the legal system that would be out of place. I certainly would not shed a tear if he got shanked in prison and bled out on the shower floor after being abused- I have no sympathy for someone like him. NONE. And the 'younger the better' makes the actual age of the victims a matter of opportunity in my mind so I am not too worried about them being 16 or 17. He is still a sick pig.

7. A complaint is simply a list of allegations amounting to evidence which the state believes provides probable cause for the defendant to be charged with a crime. What is stated in the complaint are supposed facts that have not been subject to any sort of confrontation or refutation, whether by cross-examination or otherwise. In other words, when you see a complaint the alleged facts should be taken with a grain of salt. Here, we have no idea as to the credibility of the speaker providing the police with this hearsay statement and are not privy to the context of which the statement may have been made. Instead, a more reliable source of facts on this case would have been the "factual basis" provided by either the State or the defendant (which the other side confirmed) when the plea was taken. I have not seen any media reports providing a verbatim account of what the factual basis was for Jared's guilty plea. To your point, I think it's safe to call Jared a sick pig, but it's somewhat of a stretch to say he'd sleep with a pre-pubescent child or that he should be imprisoned for decades.

Sleeping with a 16 year old is enough for me to put you away for decades.

 

[Chadstroma]

If someone has these type of urges but never acts on them or seeks out images in any form, is that individual still sick, twisted and/or have a disorder?

Yes, absolutely. If you're sexually attracted to minors you've got some bad wiring.

I see.

But it's not really that person's fault if nature/God/the universe wired them that way, is it? If it was up to them, they would never chose to have that type of attraction.

If they understand that society does not approve of their attraction, and they successfully deny their own urges, don't they get a little credit for not acting on them?

I think someone with these urges needs to seek professional help. As for not acting on the urges.... credit for what? Not violating child or contributing to those acts through consumtion of child porn? Do you give credit to the average guy who sees a woman and has all sorts of thoughts about her but does not rape her? No. There is no extra credit. It is what is expected.

How/where do we draw the line on where professional help is required? If it's a sexual preference due to "bad wiring" as some term it, or a bad childhood as Coeur de Lion stated, these people have been dealt a bad hand. If they never act on it and are otherwise unremarkable people, do they really need help?

What are the chances someone that twisted never acts on it? I would say extremely negligable. If you have that wrong with you and you don't have enough awareness to know you need to seek help then I would say the chances of you never acting on it (and just viewing child porn is an act) are pretty much 0.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

In prison, fellow inmates derisively call pedophiles "chesters," "tree jumpers" and "short eyes."

Fellow inmates?

 

[kentric]

6. I'd note that Jared has not been charged with sleeping with a six year old and, from what I can gather, has not even been charged with attempting or soliciting sex with a 6 year old. He had sex with 16 and 17 year olds - suggest that he's a hebephile or ephebophile. He's also been charged with possessing child pornography. Nothing indicates that that he produced any porn or tried to sleep with a small child. He's committed bad and disgusting crimes, but those suggesting he should get the death penalty or that what he did is worse than murdering two people in cold blood are irrational.

I would agree except that the complaint states his request was 'the younger the better'. Murder is a higher crime than any sexual assualt even on a minor. Should he get the death penalty? No, though that would feel right but for the legal system that would be out of place. I certainly would not shed a tear if he got shanked in prison and bled out on the shower floor after being abused- I have no sympathy for someone like him. NONE. And the 'younger the better' makes the actual age of the victims a matter of opportunity in my mind so I am not too worried about them being 16 or 17. He is still a sick pig.

7. A complaint is simply a list of allegations amounting to evidence which the state believes provides probable cause for the defendant to be charged with a crime. What is stated in the complaint are supposed facts that have not been subject to any sort of confrontation or refutation, whether by cross-examination or otherwise. In other words, when you see a complaint the alleged facts should be taken with a grain of salt. Here, we have no idea as to the credibility of the speaker providing the police with this hearsay statement and are not privy to the context of which the statement may have been made. Instead, a more reliable source of facts on this case would have been the "factual basis" provided by either the State or the defendant (which the other side confirmed) when the plea was taken. I have not seen any media reports providing a verbatim account of what the factual basis was for Jared's guilty plea. To your point, I think it's safe to call Jared a sick pig, but it's somewhat of a stretch to say he'd sleep with a pre-pubescent child or that he should be imprisoned for decades.

Sleeping with a 16 year old is enough for me to put you away for decades.

Yet there are numerous countries and a number of states which find such acts legal.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

NY Post cover is outstanding:

Enjoy a Footlong in Jail

 

[Chadstroma]

6. I'd note that Jared has not been charged with sleeping with a six year old and, from what I can gather, has not even been charged with attempting or soliciting sex with a 6 year old. He had sex with 16 and 17 year olds - suggest that he's a hebephile or ephebophile. He's also been charged with possessing child pornography. Nothing indicates that that he produced any porn or tried to sleep with a small child. He's committed bad and disgusting crimes, but those suggesting he should get the death penalty or that what he did is worse than murdering two people in cold blood are irrational.

I would agree except that the complaint states his request was 'the younger the better'. Murder is a higher crime than any sexual assualt even on a minor. Should he get the death penalty? No, though that would feel right but for the legal system that would be out of place. I certainly would not shed a tear if he got shanked in prison and bled out on the shower floor after being abused- I have no sympathy for someone like him. NONE. And the 'younger the better' makes the actual age of the victims a matter of opportunity in my mind so I am not too worried about them being 16 or 17. He is still a sick pig.

7. A complaint is simply a list of allegations amounting to evidence which the state believes provides probable cause for the defendant to be charged with a crime. What is stated in the complaint are supposed facts that have not been subject to any sort of confrontation or refutation, whether by cross-examination or otherwise. In other words, when you see a complaint the alleged facts should be taken with a grain of salt. Here, we have no idea as to the credibility of the speaker providing the police with this hearsay statement and are not privy to the context of which the statement may have been made. Instead, a more reliable source of facts on this case would have been the "factual basis" provided by either the State or the defendant (which the other side confirmed) when the plea was taken. I have not seen any media reports providing a verbatim account of what the factual basis was for Jared's guilty plea. To your point, I think it's safe to call Jared a sick pig, but it's somewhat of a stretch to say he'd sleep with a pre-pubescent child or that he should be imprisoned for decades.

Sleeping with a 16 year old is enough for me to put you away for decades.

Yet there are numerous countries and a number of states which find such acts legal.

Yup- including marrying 10 year old girls off to 50 year old men. You think that is ok because you can find some sick bastards who think that is a good idea?

There is a lot of slavery around the world. Perfectly acceptable to people in parts of the world. Good with that?

Some parts of the world are inclined to favor a particular gender and if they find out they are pregnant with the 'wrong' gender, they abort the baby. Totally fine.

We are not talking about an 18 year old boy dating a 16 year old girl and then they have sex. We are talking about a grown man who has consumed child pornography and was involved in production of child porn with his non-profit org buddy that then crossed state lines to have sex with a young prostitute and asked that young prostitute to find younger women for him. "The younger the better".