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What could possibly be gained from this if you are Cinci?Looks like he's back in for 3rd quarter action.
What could possibly be gained from this if you are Cinci?Looks like he's back in for 3rd quarter action.
No idea. The competition he's facing is only going to get worse, so it's not to see what he can do.What could possibly be gained from this if you are Cinci?Looks like he's back in for 3rd quarter action.
You got me. Oh wait, 80-90% of Hill's carries haven't been against the ones either.for more perspectiveWho cares , Peerman didnt run vs ones.For some added perspective, this preseason Hill has ran for 100 yds on 21 rushes. While 4th string Bengal's running back Cedric Peerman has rushed for 108 yds on 18 carries.
It could be, but that would still be insane- who else is giving their true backup so many touches in game 4 of the preseason? I'm guessing no other RB has this many touches in any preseason game this year. Just doesn't make sense.this is insanity. no idea what to make of it. i suppose it means hes a true backup and its time to bump gio.
Who was the last stiff, upright runner who retired early because of it? I don't think he's stiff or upright, personally, but I always hear it. And it's always directed at tall players as well.The more I watch this guy the more I see a stiff upright runner that doesn't avoid much contact. Those guys don't last long in the NFL.
Wat?A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
What in the works are you talking about?A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
Did you hear something I didn't? He outplayed the guy in front if him. Hard to ask for much more than that.A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
Then you should drop him for Alfred Blue or Theo RiddickA lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
Did you hear something I didn't? He outplayed the guy in front if him. Hard to ask for much more than that.A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
What in the works are you talking about?A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
They chose to sign MJD, and re-sign McFadden. MJD I can understand, but Murray has the skill-set to run as the #2 in that offense. Bringing back McFadden, when they had all but moved on from him after two injury plagued and horrendous years, to push Murray into the #3 role isn't exactly a ringing vote of confidence in Murray's current ability to do the job. Considering how little they had to risk this year, that surprised and mildly concerned me.Wat?A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
Jeremy Hill rushed 20 times for 90 yards and caught 6-of-6 targets for 70 yards in the Bengals' preseason finale Thursday night.
Starter Gio Bernard rested. Hill was utilized as a true every-down back, while being occasionally spelled by UDFA James Wilder. Hill exited at one point with an elbow injury, but returned to the game. He also blew a blitz pickup, getting Jason Campbell sacked. Core players don't typically get the kind of usage Hill did in exhibition finales, so it's hard to say with any certainty what this means for his Week 1 role. Bernard will be a quality RB2 play against the Ravens. Hill will be a dicey flex option until we get some clarity.
Aug 28 - 9:56 PM
WOW that's a interesting and telling quote I'm all aboard!!!??QuizGuy66 said:Lewis quote on Hill per Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com:
@GeoffHobsonCin: Lewis on Hill's 27 touches: he's got to learn what it's like in an NFL game
Sounds like someone who envisions Hill getting a lot of touches, be it sooner or later.
-QG
I guess we understand the work load.
But really, the article was another very encouraging sign for Hill owners. Nice find humpbackAfter all, Bernard was resting and BenJarvus Green-Ellis (hip), Cedric Peerman (hip) and Rex Burkhead (knee) were all out.
Is this the Bold Predictions thread?
Cincinnati goes deep into the playoffs, led by the two-pronged ground attack of Bernard and Hill who have nearly 4,000 yards combined rushing/receiving between them.
agreed can't even stay healthy for preseason... BUMP GIO.cvnpoka said:this is insanity. no idea what to make of it. i suppose it means hes a true backup and its time to bump gio.
OK, so I exaggerated a bit.Is this the Bold Predictions thread?
Cincinnati goes deep into the playoffs, led by the two-pronged ground attack of Bernard and Hill who have nearly 4,000 yards combined rushing/receiving between them.
I love the enthusiasm, nonethelessOK, so I exaggerated a bit.Is this the Bold Predictions thread?
Cincinnati goes deep into the playoffs, led by the two-pronged ground attack of Bernard and Hill who have nearly 4,000 yards combined rushing/receiving between them.
#TeamGio seems threatened.agreed can't even stay healthy for preseason... BUMP GIO.cvnpoka said:this is insanity. no idea what to make of it. i suppose it means hes a true backup and its time to bump gio.
EastonBlues22 said:Concept Coop said:Did you hear something I didn't? He outplayed the guy in front if him. Hard to ask for much more than that.EastonBlues22 said:A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.jurb26 said:What in the works are you talking about?EastonBlues22 said:A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.They chose to sign MJD, and re-sign McFadden. MJD I can understand, but Murray has the skill-set to run as the #2 in that offense. Bringing back McFadden, when they had all but moved on from him after two injury plagued and horrendous years, to push Murray into the #3 role isn't exactly a ringing vote of confidence in Murray's current ability to do the job. Considering how little they had to risk this year, that surprised and mildly concerned me.Just my two cents. Obviously you guys are seeing something different.humpback said:Wat?EastonBlues22 said:A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
Edit: Crap. Thought this was in the Oakland thread tab and that we were discussing Latavius Murray. I understand your collective confusion. Nothing to see here.
Concept Coop said:Did you hear something I didn't? He outplayed the guy in front if him. Hard to ask for much more than that.EastonBlues22 said:A lot of people were comparing him to D. Murray back in the day. I think that's a pretty decent comp in terms of his playing style.
I think there's potential there, but how this offseason played out has dampened some of whatever enthusiasm I had for him. There was a lot of opportunity for him to secure a significant role, and it just didn't happen.
I guess we understand the work load.
But really, the article was another very encouraging sign for Hill DYNASTY owners. Nice find humpbackAfter all, Bernard was resting and BenJarvus Green-Ellis (hip), Cedric Peerman (hip) and Rex Burkhead (knee) were all out.
Ooh yeah, that's good stuff right there.Lawfirm to be cut today
Bengals released RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis.
After Jeremy Hill's beastly preseason, the Bengals were able to comfortably sever ties with 29-year-old Green-Ellis, who was injured for much of August following an ineffective 2013 season. An aging plodder, Green-Ellis will probably resurface on a team in desperate need of a short-yardage back, but he has very little left to offer. The Bengals' tailback depth chart stands at Giovani Bernard, rookie Hill, Cedric Peerman, and Rex Burkhead.
Friday's release of BenJarvus Green-Ellis solidifies rookie Jeremy Hill as the "banger complement" to Giovani Bernard, per Bengals.com.
Keep in mind the expectations of Hill playing a significant role in the Bengals' backfield are coming directly and repeatedly from the team's own website. Cedric Peerman and Rex Burkhead will make the final 53 as depth pieces with special teams value. Hill's workload remains uncertain entering Week 1 against Baltimore, but he could become an every-week RB2/flex sooner rather than later on a Bengals team that wants to pound the rock.
Source: bengals.com
Aug 29 - 2:28 PM
The Bengals' website suggests the team "must have thunder and lightning dancing through their heads" following rookie Jeremy Hill's performance in Thursday night's preseason finale.
Given a whopping 26 touches, Hill totaled 160 yards while earning the respect of teammates. Terence Newman and Jason Campbell both praised Hill for the effort, which included a funny-bone injury from which Hill returned to put the game away. Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson noted that Hill's workload "typified what new (OC) Hue Jackson wants," as he demonstrated "power," "speed," "vision," and "creativity," particularly on a weaving 41-yard screen pass where Hill "deked" a safety. Hill also "picked up a couple of blitzes," although he missed one, resulting in a sack of Campbell. Hill's ADP has climbed into the late-ninth-round, where he remains a value pick. Hill and Gio Bernard are expected to share carries this season in the "Thunder and Lightning" committee.
Source: bengals.com
Aug 29 - 12:33 PM
Geoff Hobson of the Bengals' official website still expects Jeremy Hill to see upwards of 170 carries despite playing just ten offensive snaps in Week 1.
OC Hue Jackson said "trust" played a huge factor in Giovani Bernard out-touching Hill 20-4 against the Ravens. He didn't feel comfortable playing Hill extensively in a hostile environment in his NFL debut. Jackson assured Hill after the game that he'll be playing more going forward. We're still somewhat high on Hill in re-draft, but Bernard was awfully impressive as the bellcow last Sunday.
Source: bengals.com
Sep 10 - 11:02 AM
Really?Rotoworld:
Geoff Hobson of the Bengals' official website still expects Jeremy Hill to see upwards of 170 carries despite playing just ten offensive snaps in Week 1.
OC Hue Jackson said "trust" played a huge factor in Giovani Bernard out-touching Hill 20-4 against the Ravens. He didn't feel comfortable playing Hill extensively in a hostile environment in his NFL debut. Jackson assured Hill after the game that he'll be playing more going forward. We're still somewhat high on Hill in re-draft, but Bernard was awfully impressive as the bellcow last Sunday.
Source: bengals.com
Sep 10 - 11:02 AM
Yeah, I don't get that at all. He was awfully unimpressive as a runner. He was good in the passing game.Really?Rotoworld:
Geoff Hobson of the Bengals' official website still expects Jeremy Hill to see upwards of 170 carries despite playing just ten offensive snaps in Week 1.OC Hue Jackson said "trust" played a huge factor in Giovani Bernard out-touching Hill 20-4 against the Ravens. He didn't feel comfortable playing Hill extensively in a hostile environment in his NFL debut. Jackson assured Hill after the game that he'll be playing more going forward. We're still somewhat high on Hill in re-draft, but Bernard was awfully impressive as the bellcow last Sunday.
Source: bengals.com
Sep 10 - 11:02 AM
Ha! This is the same Geoff Hobson that predicted Gio and Hill would both carry the ball 200 times. I proceeded to point out that Hobson wrote for the team website (not a local our nationally recognized news source) and that he failed to cite a team or league source for his statement. What did we see the first game? Gio is the primary back.Rotoworld:
Geoff Hobson of the Bengals' official website still expects Jeremy Hill to see upwards of 170 carries despite playing just ten offensive snaps in Week 1.OC Hue Jackson said "trust" played a huge factor in Giovani Bernard out-touching Hill 20-4 against the Ravens. He didn't feel comfortable playing Hill extensively in a hostile environment in his NFL debut. Jackson assured Hill after the game that he'll be playing more going forward. We're still somewhat high on Hill in re-draft, but Bernard was awfully impressive as the bellcow last Sunday.
Source: bengals.com
Sep 10 - 11:02 AM
Yeah, Hobson has a motivation for his view. He is anchored on prior statements, and doesn't want to be wrong.Ha! This is the same Geoff Hobson that predicted Gio and Hill would both carry the ball 200 times. I proceeded to point out that Hobson wrote for the team website (not a local our nationally recognized news source) and that he failed to cite a team or league source for his statement. What did we see the first game? Gio is the primary back.Rotoworld:
Geoff Hobson of the Bengals' official website still expects Jeremy Hill to see upwards of 170 carries despite playing just ten offensive snaps in Week 1.OC Hue Jackson said "trust" played a huge factor in Giovani Bernard out-touching Hill 20-4 against the Ravens. He didn't feel comfortable playing Hill extensively in a hostile environment in his NFL debut. Jackson assured Hill after the game that he'll be playing more going forward. We're still somewhat high on Hill in re-draft, but Bernard was awfully impressive as the bellcow last Sunday.
Source: bengals.com
Sep 10 - 11:02 AM
Ps: I've got both of them
Good analysis. I'm holding him where I have him along with Kelce. Both had disappointing initial usage but in both cases postgame coach speak is that more touches are coming. And talent evaluations are high on both. Don't want to overreact to Week 1.Yeah, Hobson has a motivation for his view. He is anchored on prior statements, and doesn't want to be wrong.Ha! This is the same Geoff Hobson that predicted Gio and Hill would both carry the ball 200 times. I proceeded to point out that Hobson wrote for the team website (not a local our nationally recognized news source) and that he failed to cite a team or league source for his statement. What did we see the first game? Gio is the primary back.Rotoworld:
Geoff Hobson of the Bengals' official website still expects Jeremy Hill to see upwards of 170 carries despite playing just ten offensive snaps in Week 1.OC Hue Jackson said "trust" played a huge factor in Giovani Bernard out-touching Hill 20-4 against the Ravens. He didn't feel comfortable playing Hill extensively in a hostile environment in his NFL debut. Jackson assured Hill after the game that he'll be playing more going forward. We're still somewhat high on Hill in re-draft, but Bernard was awfully impressive as the bellcow last Sunday.
Source: bengals.com
Sep 10 - 11:02 AM
Ps: I've got both of them
That said, the flip side is that Hill simply looks like the better runner. And he's also pretty good at pass protection and at catching the ball. So Hobson's assertion that Hill will increase his touches makes a lot of sense.
I'm starting him at flex this week in a couple leagues where I need to swing for the fences.Rookie season 2014
Week one: nobody started him.