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Jerry confirms: Felix will get shot to start (1 Viewer)

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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones confirmed that the team has given thought to having Felix Jones replace Marion Barber as the starting running back.

Jones did say that there are certain "advantages" to having Barber start, but he made it clear that Jones will get a chance to win the job. ESPN's NFC East blogger Matt Mosley, reading the tea leaves, believes there's a 95 percent chance the Cowboys will install Jones as the starter by Week 1. At the very least, there's going to be an open competition in training camp and preseason action. Mar. 23 - 8:46 pm et

Source: ESPN.com

 
This will be very interesting to see how it plays out. I don't buy the "motivation" factor for Barber as he (1) is not lazy and (2) has had Choice and Jones breathing down his neck for 2 seasons now. I do think the backup battle will be most intriguing, because if Jones is exciting, and I could see the team sticking with him if he is hot; question is, can he handle the full load? I also think this will make Jones' value go through the roof and could go top 12 in redrafts if signs point to him being the starter (kind of killing any value that may have been there...although he could outperform that spot too, just not a cut-rate price).

 
Starter or not, this is a RBBC mess and Felix will be hard pressed to average 15 touches per game over the course of the season.

If Dallas has those three RBs on the roster, they will share the workload so that they are fresh for the later part of the season.

 
When Felix can carry the ball 15+ times a game 5 or 6 weeks in a row, then I'll believe it. Jerry Jones is a great owner from one perspective but his actual football knowledge is not exactly steller.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
When Felix can carry the ball 15+ times a game 5 or 6 weeks in a row, then I'll believe it. Jerry Jones is a great owner from one perspective but his actual football knowledge is not exactly steller.
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You're in luck MOP!15,14,18,17,17 touches the last five games of the Cowboys season, 16/game.And in those 81 touches he put up: 516 yards, 12 catches and 2TDs. Good for about 15ppg. Seems as good a starting place as any for Felix 2010 projections IMO.
 
Barber is best suited to beat down the defence when they are tired. They would be best suited to start Felix and let Barber beat the door down in the fourth. Barber should also get goal line work if they dont run choice in the wildcat. Take it for what its worth. I am a Barber owner and I don`t think he will get any more points as the starter. He isn`t an every down back. His Style of play knocks him out of games as we have seen for the past 2 years

 
wdcrob said:
Ministry of Pain said:
When Felix can carry the ball 15+ times a game 5 or 6 weeks in a row, then I'll believe it. Jerry Jones is a great owner from one perspective but his actual football knowledge is not exactly steller.
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You're in luck MOP!15,14,18,17,17 touches the last five games of the Cowboys season, 16/game.And in those 81 touches he put up: 516 yards, 12 catches and 2TDs. Good for about 15ppg. Seems as good a starting place as any for Felix 2010 projections IMO.
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He only rushed the ball 12 or more times twice last season and none as a rookie...that's a fact but I like how you took my post of "carry" the ball 15+ times 5-6 weeks in a row and turned it into whatever the numbers were on touches. Edited to add: I see where you uses the 2 playoff games...I can't really count those as no leagues I play in use them.
 
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Ministry of Pain said:
wdcrob said:
Ministry of Pain said:
When Felix can carry the ball 15+ times a game 5 or 6 weeks in a row, then I'll believe it. Jerry Jones is a great owner from one perspective but his actual football knowledge is not exactly steller.
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You're in luck MOP!15,14,18,17,17 touches the last five games of the Cowboys season, 16/game.And in those 81 touches he put up: 516 yards, 12 catches and 2TDs. Good for about 15ppg. Seems as good a starting place as any for Felix 2010 projections IMO.
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He only rushed the ball 12 or more times twice last season and none as a rookie...that's a fact but I like how you took my post of "carry" the ball 15+ times 5-6 weeks in a row and turned it into whatever the numbers were on touches. Edited to add: I see where you uses the 2 playoff games...I can't really count those as no leagues I play in use them.
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By all means don't confuse real football with fantasy. FYI, 5 games in a row is 5 games in a row :lmao:
 
The Cowboys need to realize that if (like BP was trying to establish) they totally commit to the run, then they'll be an exceptional running team; maybe the best. They may need O-line help but they sure have the stable of RBs to get it done.

Their offense is more cute than anything else and they could soooo be a tough running team if they'd just develop that mentality. Romo to Witten or Austin would be just fine too once the run is established.

One way that might show this, imagine if Barber and Jones and Co could replace Jacobs and Ward and Bradshaw of 2 years ago, I absolutely believe that the Giants would still lead the NFL in rushing maybe they'd even do better. And it's not like Cowboys fans haven't seen the Redskins or Eagles pound them all day with the run too. All they gotta do is mirror their division rivals here and they could be so much better.

One more thing- Jones gives me one of those gut feelings that there's no way he stays healthy as the main RB for 16 games.

BTW The Boys still have ZERO free agents which is very weird considering Jones can spend all he wants for a year. Quite unexpected.

 
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Moonlight_Graham said:
Ministry of Pain said:
wdcrob said:
Ministry of Pain said:
When Felix can carry the ball 15+ times a game 5 or 6 weeks in a row, then I'll believe it. Jerry Jones is a great owner from one perspective but his actual football knowledge is not exactly steller.
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You're in luck MOP!15,14,18,17,17 touches the last five games of the Cowboys season, 16/game.And in those 81 touches he put up: 516 yards, 12 catches and 2TDs. Good for about 15ppg. Seems as good a starting place as any for Felix 2010 projections IMO.
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He only rushed the ball 12 or more times twice last season and none as a rookie...that's a fact but I like how you took my post of "carry" the ball 15+ times 5-6 weeks in a row and turned it into whatever the numbers were on touches. Edited to add: I see where you uses the 2 playoff games...I can't really count those as no leagues I play in use them.
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By all means don't confuse real football with fantasy. FYI, 5 games in a row is 5 games in a row :lmao:
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What's scary is he never got the ball but managed close to 1,000 yds rushing...yikes!
 
Well it sure seems like Felix has gotten hurt the 5th or 6th game in to the season ...right when he gets the keys to the car and....... smackarooo, he tweeks something ...then is out for 3 weeks...then takes 3 weeks to get back up to speed...then running again. Maybe this year will be diffrent.

 
Sweet Love said:
This will be very interesting to see how it plays out. I don't buy the "motivation" factor for Barber as he (1) is not lazy and (2) has had Choice and Jones breathing down his neck for 2 seasons now. I do think the backup battle will be most intriguing, because if Jones is exciting, and I could see the team sticking with him if he is hot; question is, can he handle the full load? I also think this will make Jones' value go through the roof and could go top 12 in redrafts if signs point to him being the starter (kind of killing any value that may have been there...although he could outperform that spot too, just not a cut-rate price).
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You would have to either be certifiable or have stones that CLANK to take Jones Top 12, even if he's anointed the "starter" tomorrow. With his injury history and Choice and Barber both still in Dallas the risk outweighs the reward by too far a margin for my tastes. You take him later hoping he blows up fine, but taking him that high counts on it, and that's not a gamble I'd be willing to take right now.
 
Felix will never be able to carry the full load of an NFL RB. He's an exceptional COP/3rd downer. I consider him an upgraded Norwood.

 
Mikey16x said:
Felix will never be able to carry the full load of an NFL RB. He's an exceptional COP/3rd downer. I consider him an upgraded Norwood.
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Not that I disagree, but you're going to stir up some coals here. There's someone who will not take this bashing lying down.
 
phthalatemagic said:
Bump up Barber and Choice with this news
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:lmao:I like Felix Jones, but even undeer the best circumstances ( mostly that he stays healthy) I just don't see how he can muster more than ,say, 160/170 carries with Choice and Barber also clamoring for playing time...:shrug:170 carries at 5 per clip is 850 yards..hardly a top 15/20 RB.
 
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Mikey16x said:
Felix will never be able to carry the full load of an NFL RB. He's an exceptional COP/3rd downer. I consider him an upgraded Norwood.
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I'd hope there's quite a few people take exception since it's a pretty superficial comparison. Did the Falcon ever tell us that Norwood would probably be the starter? Was Norwood a 1st round pick? Does Norwood have anything like Jones' size?
 
It's great to see all you nay sayers ... I'll put my money on Jones all day every day ... he's bigger than CJ and damn near as quick but has inside power to add to the mix ... sure he's had his bumps and bruises and has missed time, but we're headed into year 3 in the league ... you guy's honestly don't think he knows his shortcomings and is working on fixing them ... pure folly and hindsighted thinking from some pretty knowledgable footballguy's in this post so far.

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wdcrob said:
Mikey16x said:
Felix will never be able to carry the full load of an NFL RB. He's an exceptional COP/3rd downer. I consider him an upgraded Norwood.
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I'd hope there's quite a few people take exception since it's a pretty superficial comparison. Did the Falcon ever tell us that Norwood would probably be the starter? Was Norwood a 1st round pick? Does Norwood have anything like Jones' size?
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His theory has been beaten to death. There's only so many ways the same thing can be said.
 
Still picking the wrong RB of his 3 choices

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BTW The Boys still have ZERO free agents which is very weird considering Jones can spend all he wants for a year. Quite unexpected.
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They can't sign any because of the rules for final 8 playoff teams. They can't until they lose one. JJ is probably going nuts.
 
Tanner9919 said:
phthalatemagic said:
Bump up Barber and Choice with this news
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:loco:I like Felix Jones, but even undeer the best circumstances ( mostly that he stays healthy) I just don't see how he can muster more than ,say, 160/170 carries with Choice and Barber also clamoring for playing time...:shrug:170 carries at 5 per clip is 850 yards..hardly a top 15/20 RB.
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When both Barber and Jones are on the field, Choice is an afterthought. He barely sees any time. Not sure why everyone is saying it'll be a 3 way split. I haven't seen any indication that it will be -- health is the driving force behind Choice getting touches so far. He looks pretty darn good but Felix looked great at the end of the season.
 
fridayfrenzy said:
Starter or not, this is a RBBC mess and Felix will be hard pressed to average 15 touches per game over the course of the season.If Dallas has those three RBs on the roster, they will share the workload so that they are fresh for the later part of the season.
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:goodposting:This.Although, it should be one of the most productive RBBCs in the NFL. Dal has a great run blocking line and overall just knows how to run the ball. It will be a headache for sure. But those who are able to guess right on it could have some monster points to show for it.
 
Moonlight_Graham said:
wdcrob said:
Mikey16x said:
Felix will never be able to carry the full load of an NFL RB. He's an exceptional COP/3rd downer. I consider him an upgraded Norwood.
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I'd hope there's quite a few people take exception since it's a pretty superficial comparison. Did the Falcon ever tell us that Norwood would probably be the starter? Was Norwood a 1st round pick? Does Norwood have anything like Jones' size?
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His theory has been beaten to death. There's only so many ways the same thing can be said.
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The guy is injury prone.. and I'm not the quickest to apply that label to players. Why would you want this guy to be the bell cow? I don't even consider it a knock on a player saying he's not an "every down back". Felix has shown he's at his best when given the ball 10-12 times a game. If you have a guy like barber to wear down the defense for a half and then stick Felix in there.. he's a tremendous weapon. I have all the respect in the world for Felix's game, he's an outstanding young player... but I don't see Chris Johnson in him nor do I see Deangelo Williams. I'm not an NFL scout, not pretending to be.. I have been proven wrong in the past. I liked his game in college and still like him to this day. Carrying the ball 25+ just isn't in the cards for him as it's not for the majority of NFL RB's. Does he have the ability to eclipse the 1000 yard mark from scrimmage? I say no. Does he have the ability to pass 1500 all purpose yards and be a major factor on special teams, passing game... absolutely. I like him the same way I like Darren Sproles.
 
Zoomanji said:
Bri said:
BTW The Boys still have ZERO free agents which is very weird considering Jones can spend all he wants for a year. Quite unexpected.
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They can't sign any because of the rules for final 8 playoff teams. They can't until they lose one. JJ is probably going nuts.
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didn't realize that.that's pretty funny then if other teams are doing it on purpose to Jerry
 
I wish the guys in my dynasty leagues were as down on Felix as you guys are here. What makes him anymore injury prone than Chris Johnson? Actually, if i had to bet who would miss more time due to injury, i would feel pretty good putting my money on CJ(due to the amount of carries he will get). Im only using CJ as an example because the two are similar type backs, and people were saying the same things about Johnson not being able to handle full time duities.

I personally do not believe past injuries makes a player more likely to get hurt in the future. Ovbiously its a different story if the player suffers the same inury every year, but thats not usually the case, and isnt with Jones. The biggest factor in a RB's chances of getting hurt is their running stye, which is why i think Barbers days of 200+ carries a season are over. Jones is 6'0" 218 lbs(plenty big enough to handle the workload), and has averaged 6.5 YPC in his first two seasons. Over the same two seasons Barber has averaged 4 YPC. With Jerrry Jones coming out and saying that Jones will be the starter, i cant think of many RB's that have the upside of Felix Jones in 2010.

 
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Go deep said:
I wish the guys in my dynasty leagues were as down on Felix as you guys are here. What makes him anymore injury prone than Chris Johnson? Actually, if i had to bet who would miss more time due to injury, i would feel pretty good putting my money on CJ(due to the amount of carries he will get). Im only using CJ as an example because the two are similar type backs, and people were saying the same things about Johnson not being able to handle full time duities. I personally do not believe past injuries makes a player more likely to get hurt in the future. Ovbiously its a different story if the player suffers the same inury every year, but thats not usually the case, and isnt with Jones. The biggest factor in a RB's chances of getting hurt is their running stye, which is why i think Barbers days of 200+ carries a season are over. Jones is 6'0" 218 lbs(plenty big enough to handle the workload), and has averaged 6.5 YPC in his first two seasons. Over the same two seasons Barber has averaged 4 YPC. With Jerrry Jones coming out and saying that Jones will be the starter, i cant think of many RB's that have the upside of Felix Jones in 2010.
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What makes him more injury prone then Chris Johnson is pretty cut and dry... Chris Johnson have never had a significant injury and Felix has had 2 season with them. I respect Jones, and I like his ability but I just don't see it. To me.. injury prone is hamstrings, cramps, etc. I don't consider broken legs, feet, arms as injury prone... that can happen to anybody walking outside to get their mail. I could be wrong but I think Felix has missed a couple of games with the hammys and such. That's what makes him injury prone.
 
Mikey16x said:
Go deep said:
I wish the guys in my dynasty leagues were as down on Felix as you guys are here. What makes him anymore injury prone than Chris Johnson? Actually, if i had to bet who would miss more time due to injury, i would feel pretty good putting my money on CJ(due to the amount of carries he will get). Im only using CJ as an example because the two are similar type backs, and people were saying the same things about Johnson not being able to handle full time duities. I personally do not believe past injuries makes a player more likely to get hurt in the future. Ovbiously its a different story if the player suffers the same inury every year, but thats not usually the case, and isnt with Jones. The biggest factor in a RB's chances of getting hurt is their running stye, which is why i think Barbers days of 200+ carries a season are over. Jones is 6'0" 218 lbs(plenty big enough to handle the workload), and has averaged 6.5 YPC in his first two seasons. Over the same two seasons Barber has averaged 4 YPC. With Jerrry Jones coming out and saying that Jones will be the starter, i cant think of many RB's that have the upside of Felix Jones in 2010.
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What makes him more injury prone then Chris Johnson is pretty cut and dry... Chris Johnson have never had a significant injury and Felix has had 2 season with them. I respect Jones, and I like his ability but I just don't see it. To me.. injury prone is hamstrings, cramps, etc. I don't consider broken legs, feet, arms as injury prone... that can happen to anybody walking outside to get their mail. I could be wrong but I think Felix has missed a couple of games with the hammys and such. That's what makes him injury prone.
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I just dont believe a guy is any more injury prone than another, just players that have been luckier than others. Football is a violent game, and the more contact you are part of, the more likely it is you get hurt. I remember when Isaac Bruce and Fred Taylor were "injury prone" early in thier career. Im not saying Jones may not get hurt in the future, like i said, football is a violent game, but would it really be shocking if Chris Johnson got hurt next year and Jones stayed healthy. Would anyone really go, "wow, how did that happen, Chris Johnson isnt injury prone, and felix Jones is"?By the way, you are right, he hurt his hamstring in his first year, and his PCL in his 2nd.
 
Go deep said:
Mikey16x said:
Go deep said:
I wish the guys in my dynasty leagues were as down on Felix as you guys are here. What makes him anymore injury prone than Chris Johnson? Actually, if i had to bet who would miss more time due to injury, i would feel pretty good putting my money on CJ(due to the amount of carries he will get). Im only using CJ as an example because the two are similar type backs, and people were saying the same things about Johnson not being able to handle full time duities. I personally do not believe past injuries makes a player more likely to get hurt in the future. Ovbiously its a different story if the player suffers the same inury every year, but thats not usually the case, and isnt with Jones. The biggest factor in a RB's chances of getting hurt is their running stye, which is why i think Barbers days of 200+ carries a season are over. Jones is 6'0" 218 lbs(plenty big enough to handle the workload), and has averaged 6.5 YPC in his first two seasons. Over the same two seasons Barber has averaged 4 YPC. With Jerrry Jones coming out and saying that Jones will be the starter, i cant think of many RB's that have the upside of Felix Jones in 2010.
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What makes him more injury prone then Chris Johnson is pretty cut and dry... Chris Johnson have never had a significant injury and Felix has had 2 season with them. I respect Jones, and I like his ability but I just don't see it. To me.. injury prone is hamstrings, cramps, etc. I don't consider broken legs, feet, arms as injury prone... that can happen to anybody walking outside to get their mail. I could be wrong but I think Felix has missed a couple of games with the hammys and such. That's what makes him injury prone.
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I just dont believe a guy is any more injury prone than another, just players that have been luckier than others. Football is a violent game, and the more contact you are part of, the more likely it is you get hurt. I remember when Isaac Bruce and Fred Taylor were "injury prone" early in thier career. Im not saying Jones may not get hurt in the future, like i said, football is a violent game, but would it really be shocking if Chris Johnson got hurt next year and Jones stayed healthy. Would anyone really go, "wow, how did that happen, Chris Johnson isnt injury prone, and felix Jones is"?By the way, you are right, he hurt his hamstring in his first year, and his PCL in his 2nd.
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Some people get injured more than others. This is undeniable. Whether it's a trait you like to call luck, or circumstance, or good timing or something else it doesn't matter. It all adds up to proneness to injury. And it's real.
 
phthalatemagic said:
Go deep said:
Mikey16x said:
Go deep said:
I wish the guys in my dynasty leagues were as down on Felix as you guys are here. What makes him anymore injury prone than Chris Johnson? Actually, if i had to bet who would miss more time due to injury, i would feel pretty good putting my money on CJ(due to the amount of carries he will get). Im only using CJ as an example because the two are similar type backs, and people were saying the same things about Johnson not being able to handle full time duities. I personally do not believe past injuries makes a player more likely to get hurt in the future. Ovbiously its a different story if the player suffers the same inury every year, but thats not usually the case, and isnt with Jones. The biggest factor in a RB's chances of getting hurt is their running stye, which is why i think Barbers days of 200+ carries a season are over. Jones is 6'0" 218 lbs(plenty big enough to handle the workload), and has averaged 6.5 YPC in his first two seasons. Over the same two seasons Barber has averaged 4 YPC. With Jerrry Jones coming out and saying that Jones will be the starter, i cant think of many RB's that have the upside of Felix Jones in 2010.
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What makes him more injury prone then Chris Johnson is pretty cut and dry... Chris Johnson have never had a significant injury and Felix has had 2 season with them. I respect Jones, and I like his ability but I just don't see it. To me.. injury prone is hamstrings, cramps, etc. I don't consider broken legs, feet, arms as injury prone... that can happen to anybody walking outside to get their mail. I could be wrong but I think Felix has missed a couple of games with the hammys and such. That's what makes him injury prone.
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I just dont believe a guy is any more injury prone than another, just players that have been luckier than others. Football is a violent game, and the more contact you are part of, the more likely it is you get hurt. I remember when Isaac Bruce and Fred Taylor were "injury prone" early in thier career. Im not saying Jones may not get hurt in the future, like i said, football is a violent game, but would it really be shocking if Chris Johnson got hurt next year and Jones stayed healthy. Would anyone really go, "wow, how did that happen, Chris Johnson isnt injury prone, and felix Jones is"?By the way, you are right, he hurt his hamstring in his first year, and his PCL in his 2nd.
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Some people get injured more than others. This is undeniable. Whether it's a trait you like to call luck, or circumstance, or good timing or something else it doesn't matter. It all adds up to proneness to injury. And it's real.
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Its not real, its an opinion, and one we disagree on. I just wish the Jones owners in my dynasty leagues shared your opinion.
 
Go deep said:
phthalatemagic said:
Go deep said:
Mikey16x said:
Go deep said:
I wish the guys in my dynasty leagues were as down on Felix as you guys are here. What makes him anymore injury prone than Chris Johnson? Actually, if i had to bet who would miss more time due to injury, i would feel pretty good putting my money on CJ(due to the amount of carries he will get). Im only using CJ as an example because the two are similar type backs, and people were saying the same things about Johnson not being able to handle full time duities. I personally do not believe past injuries makes a player more likely to get hurt in the future. Ovbiously its a different story if the player suffers the same inury every year, but thats not usually the case, and isnt with Jones. The biggest factor in a RB's chances of getting hurt is their running stye, which is why i think Barbers days of 200+ carries a season are over. Jones is 6'0" 218 lbs(plenty big enough to handle the workload), and has averaged 6.5 YPC in his first two seasons. Over the same two seasons Barber has averaged 4 YPC. With Jerrry Jones coming out and saying that Jones will be the starter, i cant think of many RB's that have the upside of Felix Jones in 2010.
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What makes him more injury prone then Chris Johnson is pretty cut and dry... Chris Johnson have never had a significant injury and Felix has had 2 season with them. I respect Jones, and I like his ability but I just don't see it. To me.. injury prone is hamstrings, cramps, etc. I don't consider broken legs, feet, arms as injury prone... that can happen to anybody walking outside to get their mail. I could be wrong but I think Felix has missed a couple of games with the hammys and such. That's what makes him injury prone.
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I just dont believe a guy is any more injury prone than another, just players that have been luckier than others. Football is a violent game, and the more contact you are part of, the more likely it is you get hurt. I remember when Isaac Bruce and Fred Taylor were "injury prone" early in thier career. Im not saying Jones may not get hurt in the future, like i said, football is a violent game, but would it really be shocking if Chris Johnson got hurt next year and Jones stayed healthy. Would anyone really go, "wow, how did that happen, Chris Johnson isnt injury prone, and felix Jones is"?By the way, you are right, he hurt his hamstring in his first year, and his PCL in his 2nd.
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Some people get injured more than others. This is undeniable. Whether it's a trait you like to call luck, or circumstance, or good timing or something else it doesn't matter. It all adds up to proneness to injury. And it's real.
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Its not real, its an opinion, and one we disagree on. I just wish the Jones owners in my dynasty leagues shared your opinion.
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You just called it luck :loco: I don't know what more you want from me.
 
This one is tricky phthalatemagic, so try hard.

If a coin comes up heads three times in a row is it 'heads prone?' Is it more likely to come up heads the next time than one that's come up tails the last three times?

 
wdcrob said:
This one is tricky phthalatemagic, so try hard.If a coin comes up heads three times in a row is it 'heads prone?' Is it more likely to come up heads the next time than one that's come up tails the last three times?
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Youre just going to confuse him.
 
wdcrob said:
This one is tricky phthalatemagic, so try hard.If a coin comes up heads three times in a row is it 'heads prone?' Is it more likely to come up heads the next time than one that's come up tails the last three times?
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Not enough information on either. I'd need to run various tests on the coin, what is flipping the coin and on the medium the coin is being flipped to give you a answer I would trust.
 
Go deep said:
Its not real, its an opinion, and one we disagree on. I just wish the Jones owners in my dynasty leagues shared your opinion.
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I'm a little confused. Are you arguing that the whole concept of some players being "injury prone" is a myth or that the concept that Felix Jones is "injury prone" is a myth?
 
FYI, Felix hurt his hammy his rookie season and while rehabbing it he injured his toe, it was said to be a freak accident, and essentially destroyed his season .. He then sprained his knee in 2009, which just happens, especially at the RB position.. So I'm giving him a pass for now..

Felix reminds me a lot of Brian Westbrook.. If you look at Brians Career Arc, Felix Jones is on a very similar line .. There skill set is very similar.. They are both great out of the back field, both have had to share carries, and both have had injuries etc.. But Felix has a larger frame to work with, and runs better between the tackles. IMO, if Felix dials in his work out regiment, and limits the tissue injuries.. I think the upside of Felix is right on par with Westbrooks best years.. I also believe, like Westbrook in years past, many Fantasy GMs will overvalue Felix and even more that will undervalue him..

Given that JJ is putting the pressure on the couching staff for Felix to get touches/starts, if Felix puts together a injury free season, his upside is top 10 RB, with a high probability of top 16.. Making him a top end #2 RB.. and a possible #1 the year after.

There is also a chance Choice or MBIII get traded on draft day, so watch for that angle as well.. Rumors were circulating that SD, had some interest MBIII, to compliment Sproles.. ;) .. Making Choice a must cuff or sneaky grab pre-draft..

 
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phillyphan07 said:
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Its not real, its an opinion, and one we disagree on. I just wish the Jones owners in my dynasty leagues shared your opinion.
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I'm a little confused. Are you arguing that the whole concept of some players being "injury prone" is a myth or that the concept that Felix Jones is "injury prone" is a myth?
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Players in general. I dont think it is a myth, i think there is something to it, but not nearly as much as people make it out to be. Of course conditioning comes in to play, but i dont think being "injury prone" should affect a players value nearly as much as people around here think. Most injuries are just a case of bad luck, and not a player being more likely to get injured than another. I do take injury proness into account when doing my rankings, but i dont base it on past injuries, i base it on position, playing style, amount of touches, and stuff like that. Ive been taking "injury prone" players for years, Fred Taylor, Isaac Bruce, Frank Gore, Andre Johnson, etc, and it has worked out quite well for me. In Jones case, i actually think conditioning may have played a part in his injuries. The only real reason i have to think this is because he only benched 225 8 times at the combine. Which leads me to believe he didnt spend much time in the gym(any average 180 lb. man who goes to the gym can do more than that after a few months). Since then however, he has put on 15 lbs., which probably means he is spending more time on his conditioning since he got to the Cowboys.
 
Zoomanji said:
Still picking the wrong RB of his 3 choices

Bri said:
BTW The Boys still have ZERO free agents which is very weird considering Jones can spend all he wants for a year. Quite unexpected.
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They can't sign any because of the rules for final 8 playoff teams. They can't until they lose one. JJ is probably going nuts.
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That is not really true information. Dallas can sign one player for $5.5 million or more and they can sign as many players as they want for $3.9 million per player.

Jerry Jones has this reputation of being an owner that would blow up if there was no salary cap but most people tend to forget that he was one of the main proponents of the salary cap when it was first initiated. Due to free agents not becoming unrestricted until their 6th season it lead to the pickings being pretty slim and the ones that might have fit were way over priced. Dallas did an excellent job of prepairing for this off season by limiting the number of UFA's that they would have to just one. Montrae Holland. Everyone else is either signed or restricted. My thoughts are that they will wait until after the draft until the second waive of free agents. The ones that are released after the draft.

 
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