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Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (3 Viewers)
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Pretty desperate reach there. The "flub" seemed pretty minor and harmless to me. Obviously the defense agreed or else they would have raised an objection during the trial.'hutchins929 said:
culdeus
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Hard to believe a dude who is really into pro wrestling is mentally imbalanced.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Jack Swagger IS pretty awesome
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
And WWE fan. :whacko:
Godsbrother
Footballguy
If this means throwing a rope with a noose already tied into Sandusky's cell and watching to see if he kills himself then I am all for it.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Has he suffered enough?
Furious Styles
Footballguy
I believe it is SOP to put all convicts on suicide watch for their first 72 hours in jail. I the important thing is this monster is in jail and will die there be it next week, next year or next decade. At this point, I'd like to see the attention shift away from his jail situation and move towards a greater collective awareness around the abuse of children. There are untold number of Sanduskys out there continuing to do harm to kids, often these kids have the same unfortunate upbringing as a lot of his victims. As a society, we don't do enough to put a stop to this abhorrent behavior.
Socrates11
Footballguy
Why do they put prisoners on suicide watch? Let them kill themselves. Would save tons of money. Heck every prison should have a carbon monoxide booth and available to any prisoner that is just tired of it all and wants to snuff it.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't use the twitter machine, so I'm a bit of a novice), but I don't see any reference to Penn State here. Lots of pro-Sandusky from this nutbag, but nothing about Penn State.This guy is clearly off in the head, but I want to make the distinction that there is a difference between supporting Penn State and supporting Sandusky.
B-Deep
Footballguy
yeah, he's probably a pitt fan
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
As goony as this thread has gotten lately, I think this idea does have some merit.
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
Yes.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
not very christian imo
B-Deep
Footballguy
jesus loves the little childrenall the children of the worldred and yellow black and whitethey are precious in his sightjesus loves the little children of the world
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I am not an expert in theology but I've never heard of anything wrong with throwing a rope in a jail cell.
johnnycakes
Footballguy
So does Jerry Sandusky.
Big 'N Tasty
Footballguy
Generally I agree, but in this case that would be letting him off WAY too easy. I say keep this guy alive as long as humanly possible so that he can continue to live in his new hell.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
So CNN has copies of emails where Paterno was the ring leader in the coverup?
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I feel like this has to be shtick, although the guy does list a bunch of pro wrestlers as his heroes, so I dunno.
Sea Duck
Footballguy
Ringleader and/or co-conspirator.And Gary Schultz is starting to look like more of a patsy than a lone wolf. Schultz was the one who suggested that they inform Second Mile and the Department Of Public Welfare; Paterno and Curley were the ones pushing for a coverup.
Translation of Curley's email: "After talking it over with Joe Paterno, I am uncomfortable with going to the authorities. I would be more comfortable meeting with Sandusky alone to tell him that we're aware of what he's done."
Imagine being involved this intimately in the coverup and you are worried about getting to coach your last game? Guy had no shame.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Where are paterno's emails that show him as the ringleader?
Whats the chronology?
Whats the chronology?
Sea Duck
Footballguy
2/26/01: Schultz emails Curley and confirms that the next steps are to inform Second Mile and the Department Of Public Welfare.2/26/01: Curley meets with Paterno.2/27/01: Curley emails Schultz and Spanier: "After talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps."
Chaka
Footballguy
I am not a Paterno apologist but I don't think that article says anything of the sort. I would like to read the email thread before jumping to conclusions.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
So does Jutz keep the avatar?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
"Jerry Sandusky - new Penn State defensive coordinator"
Seriously, can we change the title yet?
Seriously, can we change the title yet?
Marvin
Footballguy
Exactly. Take larry_boy_44 for example.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He will just emulate JoPa and look the other way himself.'proninja said:
Furious Styles
Footballguy
Take down the statue... anyone who can still defend Paterno at this point needs to really take a long look in the mirror.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Sure it does. It alleges that Schultz and Curley had agreed to notify Second Mile and the Deparment of Welfare. After meeting with Joe, Curley changes his mind...Curley writes to Spanier and Schultz: "After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps."
Sounds to me like it was only Joe's idea to keep it in house. And some people still believe that Paterno had no say and actually had people he reported to, he was just the football coach. Ok.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
If those e-mails are legit Paterno certainly knew PSU was sweeping this under the rug and was, at best, complicit in the decision. Indefensible.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
If it was all paterno and they knew emails existed, why would those guys perjure themselves to the point of being charged whereas joe was not charged? We need to see the emails. I know that the former fbi guy doing the psu internal investigation is under instructions to submit hos report to psu and the media at the same time so that there are no leaks or accusations of impropriety. Assume the emails will be in there, which is still a few weeks-month away.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
It would seem that Paterno admitted knowledge of the 1998 incident, or that he was never asked if he knew.They also apparently lied about the 2001 incident (McQueary), whereas Paterno told them what he knew (up to the part of passing it up the line).
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
Maybe they thought the 11 year old emails couldn't be retrieved?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Given that Joe was old school italian he probably never even used a phone, let alone email, now that i think of it. So we may not see much actual evidence from him. Those other guys though are dumber than they look if they didnt realize emails are always out there. Where did any of them admit to 1998 knowledge? I didnt see that part?Do the emails indicate what info they DID gather on sandusky and that 2001 incident? I assume Jerry's defense to them would have been he was just horsing around, so i wonder if they actually id'd the victim and talked to him at all. And then jerry would say to schultz "remember in 1998 they accused me as well but they never charged me because its all bs.". And then would play in his good reputation with them. They or mcqueary should have gone to the cops for sure. This dude was a phony sociopathic.Maybe they thought the 11 year old emails couldn't be retrieved?
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Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Read the CNN article posted by Bananafish.It states Curley perjured himself about the 1998 incident. You asked why Paterno wasn't charged with perjury and I suggested either he admitted knowledge or they didn't ask him as possible explanations.ETA - Based on the article, the 1998 incident is not related to the perjury charges - those stem from the 2001 incident. Based on the emails, it could be added to at least Curley's list.Given that How was old school italian ge probably bever even used a phone, let alone email, now that i think of it. So we may not see much actual evidence from him. Those other guys though are dumber than they look if they didnt realize emails are always out there. Where did any if them admit to 1998 knowledge? I didnt see that part?Do the emails indicate what info they DID gather on sandusky and that 2001 incident?Maybe they thought the 11 year old emails couldn't be retrieved?
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
IIRC what I saw last night, the President of PSU said 'I'm supportive' of the plan to NOT go to Second Mile or Child Welfare, then added that the only downside was that would potentially put the University in a difficult position if the problem wasn't solved by going directly to Sandusky.
In other words, they really thought they could sweep it under the rug by going to Sandusky directly. They knew the e-mails were still there -- they were just willing to gamble that they could disappear the problem without having it become public.
In other other words... these guys and the University are effed if those e-mails exist as reported.
In other words, they really thought they could sweep it under the rug by going to Sandusky directly. They knew the e-mails were still there -- they were just willing to gamble that they could disappear the problem without having it become public.
In other other words... these guys and the University are effed if those e-mails exist as reported.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Cnn should be waiting for the whole report before leaking info for a lot of reasons, one being to not give psu time to deflect.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Everybody in the chain, McQueary, Joe, and the 3 admin guys, should have gone to the cops. McQueary immediately, but also after he found nothing happened to Sandusky. Joe should have taken McQueary to the cops, but if the emails are true, that thought probably never crossed his mind as he actually convinced the 3 admin not to. The 3 admin should have gone with their first instinct and reported this properly, rather than putting the school at risk. All for what? How did Joe convince Curley?Given that Joe was old school italian he probably never even used a phone, let alone email, now that i think of it. So we may not see much actual evidence from him. Those other guys though are dumber than they look if they didnt realize emails are always out there. Where did any of them admit to 1998 knowledge? I didnt see that part?Do the emails indicate what info they DID gather on sandusky and that 2001 incident? I assume Jerry's defense to them would have been he was just horsing around, so i wonder if they actually id'd the victim and talked to him at all. And then jerry would say to schultz "remember in 1998 they accused me as well but they never charged me because its all bs.". And then would play in his good reputation with them. They or mcqueary should have gone to the cops for sure. This dude was a phony sociopathic.Maybe they thought the 11 year old emails couldn't be retrieved?
