Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (2 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

Media van flipped over as being reported on ESPN by John Barr

 

[Islanders rule]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

This was apparent and sad. The Penn State presser emphasized that they were doing what they thought was best for the university. F--- the university, what about the victims of the rapes that occured there?????????????????????????????How can Paterno be held in such high regard by some with the situation at hand. Does anyone honestly believe he was naive to all of this? Come on, Sandusky and Paterno have been friends for 42 years. If Paterno didn't know anything, then he is an F----- idiot!

 

[hammerva]

Rumors on twitter that the PSU seniors will boycott Saturday's game in support of JoePa.

One rumor is that the players will just stand on the sideline and not playPaterno has come out of the house

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Joe Pa outside his house

 

[Phenix]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

Scapegoat is correct. i wish more would see this for what it is and not how the media wants.isnt it funny in this whole mess the rapist is getting the least attention? yet joepa is not a scapegoat?

i still want o be clear since im on the unpopular side here

I IN NO WAY DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF JERRY SANDUSKY HE IS BELOW SCUM.

but a man who tried to do the right thing at the time should not be the big issue here he just causes for the big story in the world of the media.would it matter to most of you that the media reports 25 percent of the actual information ouy there? i paid big money for that study for one of my cases that involved a media whistle blower she was creating a huge story and reported non of the information that benfited the person who was charged. and eventually exonerated.

You and I differ on our expectations of one of the greatest football coaches of all time.

maybe so and thats whats great about america we are allowed to have different opinions and i respect everyones. it very neat to have a board like this to discuss it.but whats also great about america is one is not guilty based of opinion. there has to be facts and the facts are joe reported the incident to his superiors and he believed they handled it.

i read about 10 to 15 indictments a day, and when someone is guilty of a crime leagally and usually morally they are in the indictment more than just a few times and they are most definitly not the one who is the first one who reports it. i hope many can take a step back from all the media opinion and read the report and take into the account that joe was the head football coach and a very busy man who did act on a report that was given to him. that is all im saying.

i enjoy this board and hope everyone has a good night i got to get some sleep.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

The disdain for Paterno is crazy all over the place. Yeah, he didn't make a phone call but who is the guy that saw the activity? Who is the guy that actually did make a phone call... to his dad? As far as 2002, Paterno was inadvertently involved (as far as we know).

Good, Paterno is out. Move on to the next guy... the one who actually did see it. Let the witch hunt begin for him.

Wow.. Please go read the Grand Jury report before you make more of a fool out of yourself.

GRAND JURY REPORT

Ooof That's ####### brutal. He's gonna get ### raped like no other in prison. Pedophiles are not liked in prison.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Joe Pa outside his house

what channel?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

That was kinda weird

 

[Dragons]

Joe Pa outside his house

what channel?

ESPN, but he went back inside.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Glad to see BOT get it right. What's up with mcQueary?

Probably more of an under the table firing, possibly by the replacement AD instead of the BOT making a bigger deal of it.Id be shocked if he ends up being the only employee to survive this considering he was the lone eyewitness.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Joe Pa outside his house

what channel?

ESPN

 

[flapgreen]

Joe Pa outside his house

what channel?

Playboy

 

[comfortably numb]

Why does it matter how much he knew? He admits that McQueary told him about sexual activity with a boy. Isn't that enough for you?

where is the outrage for the guy who actually saw what went on? Paterno was told, he didn't see it, he didn't witness it, he wasn't there. Where is the outrage directed at the actual witness of the event?

Paterno makes for a much better scapegoat for the university

Rightfully so.He has known about this for a long time in my opinion...probably even before 98

He hired, and allowed a lady volleyball coach was was openly homophobic to be on the staff for 27 years, until she "resigned" amid allegations of misconduct and discrimination towards her players.

Sorry, your god has faults and has to be treated like a regular person

First of all, it was the women's basketball coach.Second of all, since when is Paterno in charge or hiring/firing other PSU sports coaches?! Thats laughable.

You are right, she was a basketball coach (mistyped)

Everything I have read indicated he hired Rene Portland.

LINK

The women's basketball program generated controversy off and on through the 1980s and 1990s because then-coach Rene Portland, who had been hired by Mr. Paterno in 1980, reportedly did not allow lesbians on her team. One player who said she was kicked off the team because Portland incorrectly thought she was a lesbian sued in 2005, also naming Mr. Curley in the lawsuit. The university fined Ms. Portland $10,000, placed a reprimand in her file and required her to attend diversity training. The lawsuit was settled for an undisclosed amount, and Ms. Portland resigned a few months later.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Joe looked happy

 

[moderated]

The disdain for Paterno is crazy all over the place. Yeah, he didn't make a phone call but who is the guy that saw the activity? Who is the guy that actually did make a phone call... to his dad? As far as 2002, Paterno was inadvertently involved (as far as we know).

Good, Paterno is out. Move on to the next guy... the one who actually did see it. Let the witch hunt begin for him.

Wow.. Please go read the Grand Jury report before you make more of a fool out of yourself.

GRAND JURY REPORT

Ooof That's ####### brutal. He's gonna get ### raped like no other in prison. Pedophiles are not liked in prison.

He'll off himself long before he goes to prison.

 

[Joe Summer]

the facts are joe reported the incident to his superiors and he believed they handled it.

If he believed they handled it, why did he allow Sandusky to continue to bring his victims to closed practices and bowl games?

 

[flapgreen]

I want to see some stuff on fire! Let's get this party started!!!

 

[comfortably numb]

Why does it matter how much he knew? He admits that McQueary told him about sexual activity with a boy. Isn't that enough for you?

where is the outrage for the guy who actually saw what went on? Paterno was told, he didn't see it, he didn't witness it, he wasn't there. Where is the outrage directed at the actual witness of the event?

Paterno makes for a much better scapegoat for the university

Rightfully so.He has known about this for a long time in my opinion...probably even before 98

He hired, and allowed a lady volleyball coach was was openly homophobic to be on the staff for 27 years, until she "resigned" amid allegations of misconduct and discrimination towards her players.

Sorry, your god has faults and has to be treated like a regular person

FAIL - Joe doesn't hire volleyball coaches.

Did he in 1980?The women's basketball program generated controversy off and on through the 1980s and 1990s because then-coach Rene Portland, who had been hired by Mr. Paterno in 1980, reportedly did not allow lesbians on her team. One player who said she was kicked off the team because Portland incorrectly thought she was a lesbian sued in 2005, also naming Mr. Curley in the lawsuit. The university fined Ms. Portland $10,000, placed a reprimand in her file and required her to attend diversity training. The lawsuit was settled for an undisclosed amount, and Ms. Portland resigned a few months later.

 

[Phenix]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

Scapegoat is correct. i wish more would see this for what it is and not how the media wants.isnt it funny in this whole mess the rapist is getting the least attention? yet joepa is not a scapegoat?

i still want o be clear since im on the unpopular side here

I IN NO WAY DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF JERRY SANDUSKY HE IS BELOW SCUM.

but a man who tried to do the right thing at the time should not be the big issue here he just causes for the big story in the world of the media.

would it matter to most of you that the media reports 25 percent of the actual information ouy there? i paid big money for that study for one of my cases that involved a media whistle blower she was creating a huge story and reported non of the information that benfited the person who was charged. and eventually exonerated.

You realize the reason he is a "scapegoat" and getting all this attention is because of his inability to take more action and prevent more rapes?"tried to do the right thing"

seriously?

You are acting like he raped boys, or actually could have put a stop to it himself. i work with detectives everyday, sadly and believe me sadly they are not as fast to act on these cases as many may think so if he went to the police in a town that clearly favored sandusky it might not have worked as well as you think.hey im objective and fair and like to see the bad guy go down more than mant infact i thrive on it. but joe is not the bad guy thats my professional opinion as a d.a., im sorry if i anger some.

 

[wazoo11]

Hire al golden!

 

[CrossEyed]

Rumors on twitter that the PSU seniors will boycott Saturday's game in support of JoePa.

Sorry, but if they do this they will make themselves look like fools and will only regret it later in life.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Rumors on twitter that the PSU seniors will boycott Saturday's game in support of JoePa.

One rumor is that the players will just stand on the sideline and not play

If anything, they play their hearts out for Paterno

 

[Islanders rule]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

Scapegoat is correct. i wish more would see this for what it is and not how the media wants.isnt it funny in this whole mess the rapist is getting the least attention? yet joepa is not a scapegoat?

i still want o be clear since im on the unpopular side here

I IN NO WAY DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF JERRY SANDUSKY HE IS BELOW SCUM.

but a man who tried to do the right thing at the time should not be the big issue here he just causes for the big story in the world of the media.would it matter to most of you that the media reports 25 percent of the actual information ouy there? i paid big money for that study for one of my cases that involved a media whistle blower she was creating a huge story and reported non of the information that benfited the person who was charged. and eventually exonerated.

You and I differ on our expectations of one of the greatest football coaches of all time.

Great football coach: YES/Maybe - And ironically a mentor and father figure to many young men.Explain to me this: How could 9 1/2 years go by before this was made public?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hire al golden!

Boy has this taken the spotlight off Miami.

 

[Phenix]

the facts are joe reported the incident to his superiors and he believed they handled it.

If he believed they handled it, why did he allow Sandusky to continue to bring his victims to closed practices and bowl games?

maybe he believes they found no evidence?whats crazy is we do not have all the information so one really dont know. sorry

 

[Premier]

Sandusky reallllllllly has to be on tilt now right?

-raped lord knows how many innocent kids

-facing life in prison, where he will likely be beaten, raped and killed

-brought down a living legend, likely an idol to him, in the most humiliating and embarrassing fashion possible

If anybody was ever going to off themself, it would be this guy right?

 

[Tiger Fan]

SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS

I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday

 

[Wooderson]

Joe looked happy

The guy is strange.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Now, I am no lawman or nothing, but this doesn't seem like a good move to me

psufan43 Doug Guthrie61 yrs and you get treated like that. its a ####### outrage #psuriot #####thetrustees15 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot #####thetrustees16 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieriotttttt22 minutes ago psufan43 Doug Guthrieriott36 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriegood. hang him. kill him leave to the lions RT @jbrown13: RT @cthagod And dont be surprised if Jerry Sandusky commits suicide.41 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieburn down trustees home. #### the police44 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieriotttttttt46 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot movment #####thetrustees54 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieits a movement RT @bellariaaa: RT @swaggieb33: Rioting with my 40000.classmates #####thetrustees55 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#### the trustees56 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriedeath to surma57 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot59 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriefirst life i want tonight is sandusky. somebreak in his home and KILL HIM1 hour agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieget your torches out1 hour ago psufan43 Doug Guthrieriot1 hour ago

 

[CrossEyed]

I am simply amazed by the fact that the majority of callers in to the nightly Pittsburgh sports call-in show are defending Paterno and are outraged that he was fired.

What are you listening to?

It was the nightly sports call on the CW.

 

[Tiger Fan]

SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday

@SPORTSbyBROOKSSPORTSbyBROOKSIf what I was told tonight about the details of the new allegation in Sandusky child sex case is true, it will horrify the public.

 

[Tango]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

Scapegoat is correct. i wish more would see this for what it is and not how the media wants.isnt it funny in this whole mess the rapist is getting the least attention? yet joepa is not a scapegoat?

i still want o be clear since im on the unpopular side here

I IN NO WAY DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF JERRY SANDUSKY HE IS BELOW SCUM.

but a man who tried to do the right thing at the time should not be the big issue here he just causes for the big story in the world of the media.

would it matter to most of you that the media reports 25 percent of the actual information ouy there? i paid big money for that study for one of my cases that involved a media whistle blower she was creating a huge story and reported non of the information that benfited the person who was charged. and eventually exonerated.

You realize the reason he is a "scapegoat" and getting all this attention is because of his inability to take more action and prevent more rapes?"tried to do the right thing"

seriously?

You are acting like he raped boys, or actually could have put a stop to it himself. i work with detectives everyday, sadly and believe me sadly they are not as fast to act on these cases as many may think so if he went to the police in a town that clearly favored sandusky it might not have worked as well as you think.hey im objective and fair and like to see the bad guy go down more than mant infact i thrive on it. but joe is not the bad guy thats my professional opinion as a d.a., im sorry if i anger some.

Your posts are contradicted by Joe Paterno himself, so we're not angry with you at all. More like amazed.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rumors on twitter that the PSU seniors will boycott Saturday's game in support of JoePa.

One rumor is that the players will just stand on the sideline and not play

If anything, they play their hearts out for Paterno

I believe it definitely could happen. These kids are angry and irate right now and I think they should be excused this weekend from having to play. ESPN feeding the mob scene now

 

[flapgreen]

Let the city BURN!!!

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I just also want to repeat that this whole thing is outrageous and disgusting. The rape of children obviously. But also now the scurrying of rats to protect their own behinds. Likely the same people who scurried to hide the charges.

But ask yourself, who has more fault? Spandusky or Paterno? Curley and Schultz, or Paterno? The University itself, or Paterno?

I feel there is plenty of fault to go around, but, from reading the indictment, Paterno's role was much smaller than many, many people involved in this. Including the police, if they had any role in suppressing these charges.

I want to see how these proceedings go forward. I would like to see how this all falls out. There are conflicting reports regarding what the Grad student told him. People are saying Paterno was told it was essentially a rape. Both the Grad Student and Paterno have said that was not what the grad student told him. That is court records and both testimonies are consistent that the Grad Student depicted it more as horsing around. But I think that will become more clear with time.

 

[comfortably numb]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

Scapegoat is correct. i wish more would see this for what it is and not how the media wants.isnt it funny in this whole mess the rapist is getting the least attention? yet joepa is not a scapegoat?

i still want o be clear since im on the unpopular side here

I IN NO WAY DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF JERRY SANDUSKY HE IS BELOW SCUM.

but a man who tried to do the right thing at the time should not be the big issue here he just causes for the big story in the world of the media.

would it matter to most of you that the media reports 25 percent of the actual information ouy there? i paid big money for that study for one of my cases that involved a media whistle blower she was creating a huge story and reported non of the information that benfited the person who was charged. and eventually exonerated.

You realize the reason he is a "scapegoat" and getting all this attention is because of his inability to take more action and prevent more rapes?"tried to do the right thing"

seriously?

You are acting like he raped boys, or actually could have put a stop to it himself. i work with detectives everyday, sadly and believe me sadly they are not as fast to act on these cases as many may think so if he went to the police in a town that clearly favored sandusky it might not have worked as well as you think.hey im objective and fair and like to see the bad guy go down more than mant infact i thrive on it. but joe is not the bad guy thats my professional opinion as a d.a., im sorry if i anger some.

LOL

a town that favored Sandusky?

Paterno, could run for Governor on Friday and probably win.

If Paterno walked into a police station, made a phone call yo law enforcement the people on the other line would be all ears.

 

[The_Wolfman]

Sandusky reallllllllly has to be on tilt now right?-raped lord knows how many innocent kids-facing life in prison, where he will likely be beaten, raped and killed-brought down a living legend, likely an idol to him, in the most humiliating and embarrassing fashion possibleIf anybody was ever going to off themself, it would be this guy right?

Probably right. Can't say the world is really gonna miss him

 

[Phenix]

only to the media. and asking what if about my child is a touchy situation. why would i be angry at the guy who reported a report from a second party? i would be angry at the people who had the real power to investigate yet covered it up, not the assumed power everyone thinks joepa had.

it dont say in the report that joe was not involved in any wrong doing but because most think he should of done more based of a second party report he is a guilty man not by law but by public opinion. eventho many would not of done what they are asking of joe, not saying its right but its true.

You say "most think he should have done more" and that's why he is punished; do you not realize that JOE PATERNO himself admitted today in his retirement statement that he "should have done more"? Paterno used the exact phrase that you attribute to his detractors.

You have lost that argument along with all the others who made a similar argument over the last few days because Joe Paterno himself disagrees with you.

-

Phenix, care to reply to this fact?

Sure. many people in his position say things in statements to get on the right side of the public that already convicted him.he is and idiot i believe yes, but not a criminal.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Now, I am no lawman or nothing, but this doesn't seem like a good move to me

psufan43 Doug Guthrie61 yrs and you get treated like that. its a ####### outrage #psuriot #####thetrustees15 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot #####thetrustees16 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieriotttttt22 minutes ago psufan43 Doug Guthrieriott36 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriegood. hang him. kill him leave to the lions RT @jbrown13: RT @cthagod And dont be surprised if Jerry Sandusky commits suicide.41 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieburn down trustees home. #### the police44 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieriotttttttt46 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot movment #####thetrustees54 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieits a movement RT @bellariaaa: RT @swaggieb33: Rioting with my 40000.classmates #####thetrustees55 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#### the trustees56 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriedeath to surma57 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot59 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriefirst life i want tonight is sandusky. somebreak in his home and KILL HIM1 hour agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieget your torches out1 hour ago psufan43 Doug Guthrieriot1 hour ago

just a random fan, or anyone of any concern?

 

[Phenix]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

Scapegoat is correct. i wish more would see this for what it is and not how the media wants.isnt it funny in this whole mess the rapist is getting the least attention? yet joepa is not a scapegoat?

i still want o be clear since im on the unpopular side here

I IN NO WAY DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF JERRY SANDUSKY HE IS BELOW SCUM.

but a man who tried to do the right thing at the time should not be the big issue here he just causes for the big story in the world of the media.would it matter to most of you that the media reports 25 percent of the actual information ouy there? i paid big money for that study for one of my cases that involved a media whistle blower she was creating a huge story and reported non of the information that benfited the person who was charged. and eventually exonerated.

You and I differ on our expectations of one of the greatest football coaches of all time.

Great football coach: YES/Maybe - And ironically a mentor and father figure to many young men.Explain to me this: How could 9 1/2 years go by before this was made public?

to be honest that is insane and cannot be explained.

 

[Tango]

only to the media. and asking what if about my child is a touchy situation. why would i be angry at the guy who reported a report from a second party? i would be angry at the people who had the real power to investigate yet covered it up, not the assumed power everyone thinks joepa had.

it dont say in the report that joe was not involved in any wrong doing but because most think he should of done more based of a second party report he is a guilty man not by law but by public opinion. eventho many would not of done what they are asking of joe, not saying its right but its true.

You say "most think he should have done more" and that's why he is punished; do you not realize that JOE PATERNO himself admitted today in his retirement statement that he "should have done more"? Paterno used the exact phrase that you attribute to his detractors.

You have lost that argument along with all the others who made a similar argument over the last few days because Joe Paterno himself disagrees with you.

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Phenix, care to reply to this fact?

Sure. many people in his position say things in statements to get on the right side of the public that already convicted him.he is and idiot i believe yes, but not a criminal.

So you honestly believe that Joe Paterno does NOT wish that he did more to help those children? Wow.

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[AhrnCityPahnder]

no one of any concern. Just staying abreast of the trending PSURIOT topics.

 

[Joe Summer]

the facts are joe reported the incident to his superiors and he believed they handled it.

If he believed they handled it, why did he allow Sandusky to continue to bring his victims to closed practices and bowl games?

maybe he believes they found no evidence?

If that's the case, then Joe must believe that Mike McQueary lied to his face.Now, why would Joe Paterno hire someone who lied to his face?

 

[Phenix]

What I'm saying is that it appears Joe Paterno wasn't aware of what was happening and wasn't trying to hide it. He went to his superiors and reported it immediately. If the Grand Jury thought he had knowledge and was concealing, he would have been indicted also.

After '02 when an assault was alleged by an existing and continuing football coach in a football building; he permitted the same accusing coach to work a practice while Sandusky attended those same football practices (including closed practices) with young boys without any consequence or follow-up. And that fact alone, which is one of the few nuggets we know for sure, is grounds for dismissal. Not sure why you are bringing up legal culpability; it's irrelevant and has nothing to do with tonight (but look out in the future)...it's about his dismissal tonight.

Because the dismissal might as well be an admission of guilt for Paterno and the President. There is a reason they refused to resign. In my opinion the University is looking for a scapegoat before the chicken comes home to roost at no administrative oversight. Roosting on people like Curly and Schultz, strictly administrative agents of the University, covering up horrible crimes to protect the University's image. Which is how I view what is happening now. It is a shell game. The University is trying to shift the blame on the highest profile they can so it doesn't bring down the institution. Its in "the best interests" of Penn State.

Scapegoat is correct. i wish more would see this for what it is and not how the media wants.isnt it funny in this whole mess the rapist is getting the least attention? yet joepa is not a scapegoat?

i still want o be clear since im on the unpopular side here

I IN NO WAY DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF JERRY SANDUSKY HE IS BELOW SCUM.

but a man who tried to do the right thing at the time should not be the big issue here he just causes for the big story in the world of the media.

would it matter to most of you that the media reports 25 percent of the actual information ouy there? i paid big money for that study for one of my cases that involved a media whistle blower she was creating a huge story and reported non of the information that benfited the person who was charged. and eventually exonerated.

You realize the reason he is a "scapegoat" and getting all this attention is because of his inability to take more action and prevent more rapes?"tried to do the right thing"

seriously?

You are acting like he raped boys, or actually could have put a stop to it himself. i work with detectives everyday, sadly and believe me sadly they are not as fast to act on these cases as many may think so if he went to the police in a town that clearly favored sandusky it might not have worked as well as you think.hey im objective and fair and like to see the bad guy go down more than mant infact i thrive on it. but joe is not the bad guy thats my professional opinion as a d.a., im sorry if i anger some.

Your posts are contradicted by Joe Paterno himself, so we're not angry with you at all. More like amazed.

do you not think his lawyers told him to say that in an attempt to get on the right side of the public, even though it failed?statements are relased all the time and most of them are full of false emotions anyways.

 

[Kenny Powers]

SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday

@SPORTSbyBROOKSSPORTSbyBROOKSIf what I was told tonight about the details of the new allegation in Sandusky child sex case is true, it will horrify the public.

Well, nothing would surprise me at this point, but it would have to be Paterno relatedWho is this guy youre referencing, TF?

 

[comfortably numb]

Now, I am no lawman or nothing, but this doesn't seem like a good move to me

psufan43 Doug Guthrie61 yrs and you get treated like that. its a ####### outrage #psuriot #####thetrustees15 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot #####thetrustees16 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieriotttttt22 minutes ago psufan43 Doug Guthrieriott36 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriegood. hang him. kill him leave to the lions RT @jbrown13: RT @cthagod And dont be surprised if Jerry Sandusky commits suicide.41 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieburn down trustees home. #### the police44 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieriotttttttt46 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot movment #####thetrustees54 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieits a movement RT @bellariaaa: RT @swaggieb33: Rioting with my 40000.classmates #####thetrustees55 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#### the trustees56 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriedeath to surma57 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthrie#psuriot59 minutes agopsufan43 Doug Guthriefirst life i want tonight is sandusky. somebreak in his home and KILL HIM1 hour agopsufan43 Doug Guthrieget your torches out1 hour ago psufan43 Doug Guthrieriot1 hour ago

just a random fan, or anyone of any concern?

That's joe pa's twitter

 

[Tiger Fan]

no one of any concern. Just staying abreast of the trending PSURIOT topics.

gotcha. Yeah, that guy is not smart

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Joe Pa outside his house

what channel?

Playboy

Saw that. What was the velvet in the foreground all about?

 

[CrossEyed]

SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday

@SPORTSbyBROOKSSPORTSbyBROOKSIf what I was told tonight about the details of the new allegation in Sandusky child sex case is true, it will horrify the public.

This a reliable source?

 

[comfortably numb]

SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday

@SPORTSbyBROOKSSPORTSbyBROOKSIf what I was told tonight about the details of the new allegation in Sandusky child sex case is true, it will horrify the public.

He and Spanier tag teaming is where my money is on