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Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (2 Viewers)
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AmosMoses
Footballguy
I would guess that football make much more money now than it did in the 80s or whenever SMU was. That's the reason they won't get a death penalty. I think the Penn State BOT should self impose it. There was a great post by someone early in the thread saying that.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
I think the vow of celebacy required of the Penn State coaching staff caused a lot of young men with certain proclivities into coaching at Penn State. It was only a matter of time until Joe Popeterno and his merry band of Cardinal coaches got caught up in this kind of thing.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Don't forget the wine. I'm sure the wine factored in there somehow.
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
Sickening to see it laid out so logically and see the vast expanse of people covering up and enabling these vile crimes.
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
You mean cite as in use for your arguments that PSU and Paterno are getting a bum rap and did nothing wrong, right?'Leeroy Jenkins said:
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Sandusky going to be interviewed by Bob Costas on Rock Center tonight: http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/14/8804779-jerry-sandusky-to-bob-costas-in-exclusive-rock-center-interview-i-shouldnt-have-showered-with-those-kids
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
I havent read through this entire thread. Quick question. Is the president(is that the highest level person at that school?) of PSU going the be brought up on any charges? I feel like this is simply another example of an executive abusing their power or breaking the rules to better their( or their company's) bottom line. People like this should be held accountable.
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otello
Footballguy
Why on earth is this guy talking to the press?
culdeus
Footballguy
I'd say this was gasoline on a fire, but this seems more like liquid hydrogen.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
It will go something like this...Costas - So Jerry are you a pedophile?
Sandusky - No, I am not a pedophile. I loved those kids, and maybe I shouldn't have showered with them, or touched their knees, but at no time did I have sex with those kids.
Costas - Ok, thanks Jerry
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
OMG ESPN just had breaking news that was almost word for word what I stated. Pedophile and and guilty of plagiarism?
Joe Summer
Footballguy
The former president (Graham Spanier) told the grand jury that he was only told (by Curley and/or Schultz) about some "uncomfortable" behavior by Sandusky.In theory, Curley and Schultz could testify that Spanier knew all about the sexual assault, but those guys have lost their credibility so I doubt the jury would believe them.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
but couldnt he be charged with negligence? i mean, lets say he didnt know what happened, it seems as if he is responsible for creating a culture in his organization that let to this cover up. With that being the case, couldnt he be held accountable in some way?
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Yup!"I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without the intent of sexual contact"
Reepicheep
Footballguy
Ha just saw the ticker on ESPN, you pretty much nailed it.
shader
Footballguy
He's had a week and this is the best excuse he could come up with? What a horrible man.
Reepicheep
Footballguy
Not defending Jerry here but as a father there are perfectly non-sexual ways to put your hand on the knee/ thigh of someone sitting next to you. Still doesn't sound good coming from him though.
belljr
Footballguy
he said he should never should have showered with them... So his defense is yes we showered but nothing inappropriate happened
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he's accused of a hell of a lot more than knee touching by quite a few different witnesses.
Reepicheep
Footballguy
Good grief I know that. I was simply responding to shader's surprise that Jerry would admit to touching a child's knees. Trust me I am as disgusted as anyone with this stuff.
Reepicheep
Footballguy
X'proninja said:
CrossEyed
Footballguy
The same reason this stuff went on in the first place. These guys think they are untouchable. (pun intended)
Reepicheep
Footballguy
Still it's really hard to imagine doubling down like this. I guess the problem could be evidence? I don't know how this stuff works in court - can someone be convicted based solely on a single eyewitness? Would be absolutely maddening if the guy somehow gets off easy.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
This entire thread is a 
HellToupee
Footballguy
Not only is he a scumbag ped he has a lousy lawyer
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17seconds
root of all aliai
That's a typical way to handle it when you are guilty. Admit to a gray area and hope your lawyer can establish enough doubt later.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I'm waiting for the "Sandusky was a victim card"'Sarnoff said:
beer 30
Footballguy
Yea, in the history of bad ideas I won't say this was the worst but it has to be up there. Just another example of this ####### still delusionally thinking he has done no wrong. He's surrounded by the good ole boys but his time is running out, the reapers coming Jerry, might want to get right with the Man before time runs out.Had no idea the judge that gave I'm that joke bail amount was a volunteer for Second Mile.
Doug B
Footballguy
There could be several more eyewitnesses if the victims testify.Not being a lawyer, I bet it wouldn't be exceedingly difficult to talk away McReady's testimony -- how close was he, what did he actually see, close enough to confirm ALL the details, etc. The Casey Anthony trial (I know, I know, apples & gyroscopes) taught me one thing about criminal law -- have absolutely no reliance on what "everybody knows." The minutiae of each specific instance will have to convince a jury of what actually happened. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.EDIT: something else learned ... things established at the grand jury phase don't mean a ton.
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Gachi
Footballguy
Now THAT is a damn shame. I tell ya, to be a rich white man in America..you can get away with anything. I wouldn't be surprised if he was found guilty of a lesser charge and got some BS sentence like 2 years probation and "counseling." 
yeah, I don't get this single eyewitness stuff. this isn't a murder where the victims aren't around to testify.
Doug B
Footballguy
I wonder if the janitor's supervisor and co-worker can testify about what the janitor reported to them? Or is that hearsay?It would be great if the supervisor made a written record of the report from his subordinate ... but I don't think janitorial operations typically work that formally.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Did anyone notice in that smear job that I think CrossEyed posted that the former buddy from Brown said the Penn State coaches always showered together, talking about plays? That's bizarre and yet seems like it could give the defense some ammo.
Joe T
Footballguy
This entire thread is a
Dexter
Footballguy
Congrats you think just like a pedophile.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Explain to me how you think that fact could sway a jury in this case.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
So if Sandusky recalls the details of the shower incident that McQueary witnessed, why doesn't he give the identity of the boy so that he can give his account of what happened?
ETA: OK, so I guess he's told his lawyer. Or at least they have someone who will say that it didn't happen.
ETA: OK, so I guess he's told his lawyer. Or at least they have someone who will say that it didn't happen.
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
I can't bring myself to put it on, post anything worthwhile the scumbag might say.
mr roboto
Footballguy
All he feels bad about is showering with them. He doesn't think the fallout at Penn State was his fault.
He really stumbled when Costas asked him directly 'Are you sexually attracted to young boys?'
He finally said no, but said he was attracted to young people (referring to caring about their lives, futures). Really reminds me of Michael Jacksons statements about how he slept in bed with kids and just loved them. Same kinda creepy vibe.
He really stumbled when Costas asked him directly 'Are you sexually attracted to young boys?'
He finally said no, but said he was attracted to young people (referring to caring about their lives, futures). Really reminds me of Michael Jacksons statements about how he slept in bed with kids and just loved them. Same kinda creepy vibe.
Not Sure
Footballguy
Extremely creepy. I don't think this interview is helping him at all. It seems like he is lying about a lot of things but also saying he doesn't think the fallout was his fault just makes him look worse, if that was even possible.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Of course it wasn't his fault, we know the fall of Penn St was all crosseyed's fault.
He stumbled when asked about being "sexually attracted"???? Good lord, just lock up this animal and toss the key in the river.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Oh I don't know that it necessarily could but if true it does give some credence to the "showering together, no boundaries, manly men" idea. I'm not saying it would work, but it would be an interesting point. I mean, if his defense is that showering close together is the "real experience" of PSU coaches and he was trying to show those kids what that would be like and it that turns out to be true that the coaches always shower together, sure it might make someone think more about that.
this guy is not believable at all. not really sure what he was hoping to accomplish by doing this interview.
