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Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (2 Viewers)
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Brock Middlebrook
Footballguy
Regardless of what the full testimony is "left immediately" being in the presentment leaves little wiggle room for it tio be true that he stopped it. McQueary's the only eyewitness, so i'm sure the conclusions were based heavily on his testimony. I just have a hard time imagining McQueary testifying that he stopped it and the GJ publishing that he "left immediately" and nothing else. There may be a scenario where this works, but there is very little wiggle room to make it work,Why wopuld a GJ put something in the presentment that seemingly contradicts the sole eyewitness?'scoobygang said:
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Premier
Footballguy
Paterno spoke to Sandusky once in the 7 years after he retired and it was a chance encounter on campus. I dont know how much McQ saw Sandusky since the incident and neither do you.What's McQ going to say that will change the fact that he saw Sandusky rape a kid and then stayed in the program and watched Sandusky hanging out with more kids?Im glad to see you are at least using words like "if" and "yet". Maybe the outrage is finally waning. All Im saying is give people a chance to speak and then form your judgments.What did we learn from McQ? That he claims he stopped it (unproven) but let it slide for 9 years (proven)? Sorry, but McQ's leaked email defense doesn't add up and it's definitely not something to "learn" from yet.SPORTSbyBROOKS = Weekly World NewsGreat to see you learned something from the McQ incident. Hurry, lets rally up a mob and get Bradley.
there's a picture in a yahoo article showing them talking on the sideline at a game earlier this year.
Brock Middlebrook
Footballguy
Lifelong buddies, working on the same campus...Sandusky sitting at team meetings, going on road trips team diners etc and they didn't speak? wow
Joe Summer
Footballguy
McQueary never said that he stopped it. He said that he "made sure it stopped". Those two things are not the same.
look at your post:
So, because one guy said the two of them didn't speak, it's a fact? But you don't believe McQueary has seen Sandusky at all over the past 9 years despite numerous reports that Sandusky hung around the program during that time period?
beer 30
Footballguy
That was a pretty good interview/opinion. Still wondering what they were hoping t accomplish last night and afterward, do you think they slapped it high and had some horseplay in a shower to celebrate?
You can believe it if yo want but I'm not buying it. Dude was on campus with full privileges and an office up until last week. Everybody covered for this guy and even moreso when it became apparent the story grew legs and went national.
beer 30
Footballguy
Hadn't thought about it until I read this but McQueary could fall back on the excuse that he stopped it by reporting it to JoePa and focusing the spotlight on it. Semantics, he haz dem
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Whole transcript of interview even more damning than what was shown last night:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/jerry-sandusky-i-seeking-young-person-sexual-helped-article-1.977730
Zow
Footballguy
No, it wasn't. Not even close.
Zow
Footballguy
I couldn't believe it when I learned his lawyer was not only present but set up the meeting. I'd have tackled him when he started talking about showering with boys.
Jerry sure would like you.
Tiny Dancer
Footballguy
The lawyer was with Costas on TV and Sandusky was on the phone. It was a terrible setup if the lawyer planned to exercise any control over the interview. I have to think that Sandusky insisted on doing the interview over the objections of his lawyer. I can't imagine the lawyer would suggest it.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
I would like to hear from the resident attorneys what defense they would use to try and get Sandusky acquitted. What will be admissible what will thrown out. Will the current judge be recused? Does the judge have to recuse herself? Man I hope this trial is on tv.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
On a similar note, Sandusky reminds me of Troy McClure."What I have is a romantic abnormality, one so unbelievable that it must be hidden from the public at all cost."
Not a lawyer, and far from a legal expert, but I'd guess with this interview, they realized there's too many witnesses that will come forward to confirm the "showers with boys" thing and will instead try to play it off as a misunderstanding in some kind of way that insults people's intelligence. "I wasn't raping that boy, he slipped and I tried to catch him."
dgreen
Footballguy
I know, that's crazy. I mean, young people are incredibly annoying.
Brock Middlebrook
Footballguy
see how careful you have to parse it....
General Malaise
Footballguy
You really think so, huh? Maybe you are correct and can show me proof to the contrary, but I have a hard time believing that I or everyone else participating on this website would be celebrating what constitutes statutory rape in Colorado. But hey, if you think what the attorney did was cool, don't let me stop you from your rhythmic high slapping.I love how the threads generate outrage about anything and everything. If this was in another FFA thread and was about a 49 yo FBG and an 18 yo girl, everyone would be running around saying slap it high.Sandusky's attorney is a piece of work too...guy impregnated a 17 year old girl when he was 49.
Joe T
Footballguy
Stay classy.You really think so, huh? Maybe you are correct and can show me proof to the contrary, but I have a hard time believing that I or everyone else participating on this website would be celebrating what constitutes statutory rape in Colorado. But hey, if you think what the attorney did was cool, don't let me stop you from your rhythmic high slapping.I love how the threads generate outrage about anything and everything. If this was in another FFA thread and was about a 49 yo FBG and an 18 yo girl, everyone would be running around saying slap it high.Sandusky's attorney is a piece of work too...guy impregnated a 17 year old girl when he was 49.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Go back into hiding.Stay classy.You really think so, huh? Maybe you are correct and can show me proof to the contrary, but I have a hard time believing that I or everyone else participating on this website would be celebrating what constitutes statutory rape in Colorado. But hey, if you think what the attorney did was cool, don't let me stop you from your rhythmic high slapping.I love how the threads generate outrage about anything and everything. If this was in another FFA thread and was about a 49 yo FBG and an 18 yo girl, everyone would be running around saying slap it high.Sandusky's attorney is a piece of work too...guy impregnated a 17 year old girl when he was 49.
What is the Chewbacca Defense?
Doug B
Footballguy
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
Confusing the jury by with nonsensical ideas that have nothing to do with the case.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Go away.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
You serious? You think it was the gloves or people not understanding dna yet?Can we stop posting that all capa sports twitter as a source? He doesnt seem credible.
Short Corner
Footballguy
You serious Clark?
Brock Middlebrook
Footballguy
The jury distrusted the police. It wouldn't have been even close to the first time police had manufactured evidence to obtain a conviction. The broken chain of custody for the evidence as well a lead investigator who was racist really solidified the strategy.
Zow
Footballguy
Costas was on Dan Patrick this morning and said that the lawyer called Costas to propose Sandusky joining the interview.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Do you really think it matters, Eddie?
Zow
Footballguy
Very serious. I've been to a half-day CLE on the trial with Dr. Henry Lee as a guest speaker. The defense exposed through expert testimony that the police planted evidence. Combine that with the defense exposing racist cops and the glove thing (horrible, idiotic move by the state) and a juror is faced with convicting a man in the face of evidence that the defendant may have been framed. They could have done this if they chose, but they didn't. Instead, they found this evidence amounted to reasonable doubt. Since nullifcation means that a jury acquits despite the evidence not providing for reasonable, the OJ jury didn't nullify because there is evidence on the record that there is reasonable doubt that he didn't commit the crime.**I think he did it. But that's not what was claimed - Rud claimed it was clear nullification when it absolutely wasn't.
Zow
Footballguy
Don't know near enough to answer this question. First thing I'd do though is have him not talk about showering with boys.
As I recall, there was a thread around here counting down the days until the twins were legal. Numerous threads with references to one of our favorite posters tendencies to like younger girls. At 18 yo pictures get posted sans clothes, 17 yo and 355 days it's considered porn and a no-no.I'm not judging one way or another, just found the outrage interesting when generally the trend around here would be in the other direction. I don't have the answer where the line should be...16, 17, 18, 21, x-y age difference. I didn't mean to point a finger specifically at you because I don't know your beliefs, just picked your post...so my apologies if this came off as an attack against you. My point was that the age of this guys wife isn't really that relevant.You really think so, huh? Maybe you are correct and can show me proof to the contrary, but I have a hard time believing that I or everyone else participating on this website would be celebrating what constitutes statutory rape in Colorado. But hey, if you think what the attorney did was cool, don't let me stop you from your rhythmic high slapping.I love how the threads generate outrage about anything and everything. If this was in another FFA thread and was about a 49 yo FBG and an 18 yo girl, everyone would be running around saying slap it high.Sandusky's attorney is a piece of work too...guy impregnated a 17 year old girl when he was 49.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I hear what you are saying, but I think its one thing to ogle at 18 year old girls from a distance and quite another to knock-up a 17 year old when you are nearly 50 years old. The fact that Sandusky picked this guy to represent him is curious, IMO. Seems like neither one of them are big on boundaries.As I recall, there was a thread around here counting down the days until the twins were legal. Numerous threads with references to one of our favorite posters tendencies to like younger girls. At 18 yo pictures get posted sans clothes, 17 yo and 355 days it's considered porn and a no-no.I'm not judging one way or another, just found the outrage interesting when generally the trend around here would be in the other direction. I don't have the answer where the line should be...16, 17, 18, 21, x-y age difference. I didn't mean to point a finger specifically at you because I don't know your beliefs, just picked your post...so my apologies if this came off as an attack against you. My point was that the age of this guys wife isn't really that relevant.You really think so, huh? Maybe you are correct and can show me proof to the contrary, but I have a hard time believing that I or everyone else participating on this website would be celebrating what constitutes statutory rape in Colorado. But hey, if you think what the attorney did was cool, don't let me stop you from your rhythmic high slapping.I love how the threads generate outrage about anything and everything. If this was in another FFA thread and was about a 49 yo FBG and an 18 yo girl, everyone would be running around saying slap it high.Sandusky's attorney is a piece of work too...guy impregnated a 17 year old girl when he was 49.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Be careful here. I felt the same way when I learned that Casey Anthony hired Jose Baez.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Again, probably old news, but...
Source says McQueary did "stop" the attack, also had "discussions with police" afterward
Source says McQueary did "stop" the attack, also had "discussions with police" afterward
Parrothead
Footballguy
if true, why didn't the police do anything? I have a feeling lots of these tidbits of info will be surfacing and the local and state police are going to look very very bad
Parrothead
Footballguy
JFC where did I say that? All I am saying is the police know what was going onnevermind- carry the #### on ... ####### #######s'proninja said:
Leviathan
Footballguy
What?
I'm one of those people that believe that people are born either heterosexual or homosexual. Not sure if people are wired to be pedophiles from the get go. Just asking a question.
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
I stand by the "20 bad witnesses" in that I meant McQuery, the janitors, the high school coach who didn't really see anything, all the second hand parties who did nothing, those who investigated in the past and found nothing for whatever reasons, etc., etc. I think they all have issues.However, where I have messed up is that somehow I came to believe that the victims would not testify. Not even sure why I thought that now. Yes, victim 1 at least should be pretty strong. I don't think there are 7 though, but one good one should be enough.Anyway I think without any victims testifying what I said this morning is the case, but adding them in to the equation nullifies it. I stand corrected here.
