Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (1 Viewer)

[Christo]

For the record, we have no idea whether Bear Bryant did or did not cover up child abuse while coaching at Alabama.

Is it just me or does it seem like almost every argument you make is a theory that is impossible to prove or disprove? Joe was in denial, the NCAA has no legal authority even though PSU might not challenge it, Bear might have covered up a child predator... It is the sign of person holding onto an undependable position.

It's just you.

Prove it.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

For the record, we have no idea whether Bear Bryant did or did not cover up child abuse while coaching at Alabama.

Is it just me or does it seem like almost every argument you make is a theory that is impossible to prove or disprove? Joe was in denial, the NCAA has no legal authority even though PSU might not challenge it, Bear might have covered up a child predator... It is the sign of person holding onto an undependable position.

It's just you.

Prove it.

 

[cstu]

Big 10 penalty.

The $13 million in Big Ten bowl revenue Penn State would be due in the next four years will be going to charity instead.

The Big Ten Conference announced Monday the school would not receive its share of the conference bowl revenue in light of the football program’s heavy NCAA sanctions.

The Nittany Lions are banned from postseason competition for four years, and that includes competition in the Big Ten Championship should Penn State win its division. Conference schools are due roughly $2 million per year.

Earlier on Monday, the NCAA fined Penn State $60 million, placed the school on five years probation, cut scholarships from 25 to 15 and vacated all wins from 1998-2011.

The bowl shares, like the fine money, will go toward charitable organizations focused on preventing child abuse.



Combining the bowl share with the fine, Penn State has been penalized $73 million. According to the Central Penn Business Journal, that’s the amount of revenue the football program generated in 2010.

I hope they recover.

 

[Joe Summer]

Victim 2 has been found and he happened to save some voicemails from Sandusky

[The voicemails] are dated September 12 and September 19, 2011, less than two months before Sandusky was arrested on sex abuse charges.

Both messages end with the words "love you" to the victim.

 

[The Commish]

Glad to see things haven't changed. I was afraid being away a week, folks might come to their senses. @ NCAA....way to treat this like any other infraction...loss of money, schollies, bowl band.

 

[The Commish]

Sandusky Upset

 

[TLEF316]

Paterno family DEMANDS appeal of sanctions

 

[The Commish]

Guess I posted the info in the wrong thread.

 

[The Future Champs]

Paterno family DEMANDS appeal of sanctions

What did you think was going to happen? The Paterno family has a different set of priorities than the University.

 

[D-Day]

Paterno family DEMANDS appeal of sanctions

What did you think was going to happen? The Paterno family has a different set of priorities than the University.

I think the biggest thing they are worried about is their payday that they are going to miss out for not being able to use Joe Pa's image for endorsements.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Paterno family DEMANDS appeal of sanctions

What did you think was going to happen? The Paterno family has a different set of priorities than the University.

I think the biggest thing they are worried about is their payday that they are going to miss out for not being able to use Joe Pa's image for endorsements.

This would be perfect for him to sell

 

[snitwitch]

Jerry Sandusky 'shared boys he molested with other high-profile pedophiles linked to Penn State as part of sex ring'

Looks like those rumors may have been true. I'm betting that district attorney that disappeared was murdered by these guys.

 

[culdeus]

Interesting non-bump today. Amazing how quickly people move on.

 

[Marvin]

Interesting non-bump today. Amazing how quickly people move on.

You know somebody started another thread about his sentencing, right?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Spanier indicted on five felony charges.

Penn State’s Ex-President Indicted on 5 Charges in Sandusky Scandal

[updated (11/1/2012, 12:50 p.m.) to include details from the attorney general's announcement.]

Graham B. Spanier, the former president of Pennsylvania State University, has been indicted on five charges related to the Jerry Sandusky sex-abuse scandal, the state’s attorney general announced at a news conference on Thursday. The charges against the former president, who was forced out last year as news of the scandal unfolded, include one count of perjury, two counts of endangering the welfare of children, and two counts of criminal conspiracy, all third-degree felonies that are each punishable by up to seven years in prison. Prosecutors also added to the criminal charges against Gary C. Schultz and Timothy M. Curley, the Penn State administrators who are awaiting trial in January on perjury charges, according to The Patriot-News. At the news conference, the attorney general, Linda Kelly, called the Penn State officials’ actions a “conspiracy of silence.”

My link

 

[Dragons]

Spanier indicted on five felony charges.

Penn State’s Ex-President Indicted on 5 Charges in Sandusky Scandal

[updated (11/1/2012, 12:50 p.m.) to include details from the attorney general's announcement.]

Graham B. Spanier, the former president of Pennsylvania State University, has been indicted on five charges related to the Jerry Sandusky sex-abuse scandal, the state’s attorney general announced at a news conference on Thursday. The charges against the former president, who was forced out last year as news of the scandal unfolded, include one count of perjury, two counts of endangering the welfare of children, and two counts of criminal conspiracy, all third-degree felonies that are each punishable by up to seven years in prison. Prosecutors also added to the criminal charges against Gary C. Schultz and Timothy M. Curley, the Penn State administrators who are awaiting trial in January on perjury charges, according to The Patriot-News. At the news conference, the attorney general, Linda Kelly, called the Penn State officials’ actions a “conspiracy of silence.”

My link

 

[CrossEyed]

Locally, a guy has come forward with a claim that he was raped by Sandusky when he was 11 and Sandusky was only 22 or 23. Supposedly he has no interest in any money, doesn't want to be part of any lawsuit, and is not writing a book. He said he just needed to come forward to try to get help (he's had a rough life, including alcoholism, cocaine addiction, and multiple suicide attempts) and encourage other men who may be hiding the same secrets (sexual abuse in general, not specifically Sandusky victims) to seek help.

If his story is true, there have maybe been hundreds of victims of Sandusky over the past 4+ decades.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Locally, a guy has come forward with a claim that he was raped by Sandusky when he was 11 and Sandusky was only 22 or 23. Supposedly he has no interest in any money, doesn't want to be part of any lawsuit, and is not writing a book. He said he just needed to come forward to try to get help (he's had a rough life, including alcoholism, cocaine addiction, and multiple suicide attempts) and encourage other men who may be hiding the same secrets (sexual abuse in general, not specifically Sandusky victims) to seek help.

If his story is true, there have maybe been hundreds of victims of Sandusky over the past 4+ decades.

Given just how brazen Sandusky was, and the fact that his wife covered for him, I don't think this would surprising at all. The term "sexual predator" applies to a guy like Sandusky in every possible meaning of that phrase.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Good to see Spanier get indicted. Hope to get some truth/closure out of the trials, although given that all three have already committed perjury and the fourth person is dead, not sure what truth we'll get.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Good to see Spanier get indicted. Hope to get some truth/closure out of the trials, although given that all three have already committed perjury and the fourth person is dead, not sure what truth we'll get.

We won't get anything we don't already know, but Spanier richly deserves to spend some time in prison, and it's always good to see justice done.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Good to see Spanier get indicted. Hope to get some truth/closure out of the trials, although given that all three have already committed perjury and the fourth person is dead, not sure what truth we'll get.

We won't get anything we don't already know, but Spanier richly deserves to spend some time in prison, and it's always good to see justice done.

Yep.

 

[fatness]

Good to see Spanier get indicted. Hope to get some truth/closure out of the trials, although given that all three have already committed perjury and the fourth person is dead, not sure what truth we'll get.

Apparently there was information in the secret file Schultz kept that was part of the Freeh report, and part of it that the Freeh report couldn't/didn't publish since it was being used in the grand jury investigation. So some new things may come out about the guys at the top.

 

[Wrigley]

Pen Gov to sue NCAA

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

A person associated with the university and knowledgeable about the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the lawsuit had not been filed, told The Associated Press that it is an antitrust action.

 

[otello]

Pen Gov to sue NCAA

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

A person associated with the university and knowledgeable about the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the lawsuit had not been filed, told The Associated Press that it is an antitrust action.

PA lawmakers are objecting to the fact that the fine money (which includes PA taxpayer's money) will be used for activities in other states.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Pen Gov to sue NCAA

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

A person associated with the university and knowledgeable about the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the lawsuit had not been filed, told The Associated Press that it is an antitrust action.

Ugh. Now I hope the NCAA puts a TV ban on them for 4 years.

 

[fatness]

Pen Gov to sue NCAA

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

Yet he hasn't talked to the state's newly-elected attorney general about it yet. Corbett's not popular. I guess he figures this will get him some votes. I wonder if he's insisting on the state's open records law finally applying to Penn State, or if he still wants them exempt?

 

[fatness]

Attorney General-elect Kathleen Kane has vowed to probe Corbett's handling of the Penn State case. She has told reporters that she believes that by convening a grand jury in the case that he failed to protect children by delaying prosecution for more than two years.

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[SHIZNITTTT]

I hope that since the Governor of Pennsylvania is suing the NCAA somehow the NCAA can turn around and give PENN the death penalty in football.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Pen Gov to sue NCAA

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

A person associated with the university and knowledgeable about the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the lawsuit had not been filed, told The Associated Press that it is an antitrust action.

So dumb. Didn't Penn State agree to the penalties? Isn't the NCAA a voluntary association?Although it occurred to me that the NCAA is not only a for profit institution, but seems to have a total monopoly. Do they have protection from Congress on that or something?

 

[Dragons]

Attorney General-elect Kathleen Kane has vowed to probe Corbett's handling of the Penn State case. She has told reporters that she believes that by convening a grand jury in the case that he failed to protect children by delaying prosecution for more than two years.

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This is one thing that bothered me from the beginning. That was a long time to allow a predator to be out on the loose. Was there a different option?

 

[phrozen]

Pen Gov to sue NCAA

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

A person associated with the university and knowledgeable about the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the lawsuit had not been filed, told The Associated Press that it is an antitrust action.

If my memory is correct, Corbett is on the PSU Board of Trustees so I find this lawsuit interesting.

 

[The Commish]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA?

And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA? And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

I believe someone needs to oversee these athletic programs. My only problem with the NCAA is they are inconsistent with their punishments.

 

[The Commish]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA? And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

I believe someone needs to oversee these athletic programs. My only problem with the NCAA is they are inconsistent with their punishments.

I don't disagree. It's fine for the NCAA to make sure these schools are following their rules. They have no business sticking their noses into criminal cases. That's why we have a state and federal judicial system.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA? And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

I believe someone needs to oversee these athletic programs. My only problem with the NCAA is they are inconsistent with their punishments.

I don't disagree. It's fine for the NCAA to make sure these schools are following their rules. They have no business sticking their noses into criminal cases. That's why we have a state and federal judicial system.

I'll disagree and say that Penn State football benefited from covering up these crimes so it wasn't just a criminal case. This has been debated over and over for months though.

 

[The Commish]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA? And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

I believe someone needs to oversee these athletic programs. My only problem with the NCAA is they are inconsistent with their punishments.

I don't disagree. It's fine for the NCAA to make sure these schools are following their rules. They have no business sticking their noses into criminal cases. That's why we have a state and federal judicial system.

I'll disagree and say that Penn State football benefited from covering up these crimes so it wasn't just a criminal case. This has been debated over and over for months though.

I don't disagree with them benefiting but I've yet to see what real rule PSU broke (as pathetic as that may be). My problem with it is the spotlight the NCAA took away from the victims by sticking their noses in. The criminal punishments would be so much more substantial. As of now the NCAA has reduced this event to a year's worth of revenue and 4 years of bowl games. All that torment for all those decades for all those kids were reduced to that as far as the NCAA was concerned. Just brutal IMO.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA? And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

I believe someone needs to oversee these athletic programs. My only problem with the NCAA is they are inconsistent with their punishments.

I don't disagree. It's fine for the NCAA to make sure these schools are following their rules. They have no business sticking their noses into criminal cases. That's why we have a state and federal judicial system.

I'll disagree and say that Penn State football benefited from covering up these crimes so it wasn't just a criminal case. This has been debated over and over for months though.

I don't disagree with them benefiting but I've yet to see what real rule PSU broke (as pathetic as that may be). My problem with it is the spotlight the NCAA took away from the victims by sticking their noses in. The criminal punishments would be so much more substantial. As of now the NCAA has reduced this event to a year's worth of revenue and 4 years of bowl games. All that torment for all those decades for all those kids were reduced to that as far as the NCAA was concerned. Just brutal IMO.

I would have had no problem with the death penalty. For multiple years. At the very least they should have gotten a TV ban.I hope Bill O'Brien gets an NFL job and the judge laughs at Corbett's lawsuit.

 

[The Commish]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA? And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

I believe someone needs to oversee these athletic programs. My only problem with the NCAA is they are inconsistent with their punishments.

I don't disagree. It's fine for the NCAA to make sure these schools are following their rules. They have no business sticking their noses into criminal cases. That's why we have a state and federal judicial system.

I'll disagree and say that Penn State football benefited from covering up these crimes so it wasn't just a criminal case. This has been debated over and over for months though.

I don't disagree with them benefiting but I've yet to see what real rule PSU broke (as pathetic as that may be). My problem with it is the spotlight the NCAA took away from the victims by sticking their noses in. The criminal punishments would be so much more substantial. As of now the NCAA has reduced this event to a year's worth of revenue and 4 years of bowl games. All that torment for all those decades for all those kids were reduced to that as far as the NCAA was concerned. Just brutal IMO.

I would have had no problem with the death penalty. For multiple years. At the very least they should have gotten a TV ban.I hope Bill O'Brien gets an NFL job and the judge laughs at Corbett's lawsuit.

IMO, "death penalty" isn't even enough. The NCAA can't go after the individuals who did this like the judicial system can. They can't do to these people what needs to be done. All they can do is punish people who really had nothing to do with the incidents which gets to your point of consistency. This is bigger than football and as long as folks try to look at it from a football perspective, I believe they are doing the victims a major disservice.

 

[Godsbrother]

Corbett is a disgrace.

 

[roadkill1292]

Am I the only one that hopes this lawsuit bankrupts the NCAA? And before all the mouth breathers get all up in arms over that comment, it's not a defense of PSU. What happened there sucks and people should be punished. No question in my mind, but I said from day one the NCAA had no business stepping in. All they did was make a mockery of the tragedy by implementing their faux sanctions. They should be embarrassed.

I am generally in favor of anything which causes the NCAA and NFL consternation. Both have far too much power and control for my comfort.

 

[fatness]

Attorney General-elect Kathleen Kane has vowed to probe Corbett's handling of the Penn State case. She has told reporters that she believes that by convening a grand jury in the case that he failed to protect children by delaying prosecution for more than two years.

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This is one thing that bothered me from the beginning. That was a long time to allow a predator to be out on the loose. Was there a different option?

Corbett barely assigned any investigators to the case and gave it no priority at all when he was attorney general. It was only when all the press coverage finally hit that the investigation began in earnest.

Kane has been highly critical of Corbett’s putting only one investigator on the case and for presenting the Sandusky case to a grand jury instead of arresting Sandusky back in 2009.

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[fatness]

The suit is hogwash. By the time it is fully litigated, if it is ever litigated, there is a strong likelihood that the sanctions against Penn State will have ended. But this is not a suit pivoting on legal merits. This is a suit filed by Corbett to ingratiate himself with the Penn State community and alumni, a valuable source of votes and campaign contributions when he is up for reelection in 2014 and may well face a formidable challenger in the Republican primary.

Democrat Kathleen Kane, a former prosecutor who will take office as Pennsylvania attorney general on Jan. 15, wants to know why the Sandusky investigation—which started in 2008 when Corbett was attorney general—took so long. Given Kane’s experience in child-abuse cases, she insists that in normal circumstances the predatory animal would have been arrested after the first allegation was proven to be founded. It would have gotten him off the street, and nothing would have precluded the state police from further investigation. Instead, a grand jury was impaneled. It went on for more than three years, which kept the predatory animal free to attack until his arrest.

In the meantime, Corbett took close to $202,000 in gubernatorial campaign donations from board members of the charity started by the predatory animal, called Second Mile, according to Deadspin.com. In the meantime, there were all of two state investigators (some say it was only one) assigned to the case of the predatory animal until Corbett became governor in 2011. It was only afterwards that the investigation expanded into the scope it always deserved.

Even then, the investigation showed such apparent sloppiness that it seemed almost willful in trying to protect Penn State officials from extensive damage. It wasn’t until March of 2012 that attorney-general investigators, in concert with Freeh investigators, discovered that Sandusky actually had maintained an office at the university; it was found to house valuable evidence. Nor from all indications did state investigators discover the crucial emails that resulted in the attorney general filing perjury charges against former Penn State president Graham Spanier. They apparently came instead from the Freeh investigation.

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[Joe Summer]

Corbett is about as corrupt as you can get. He accepted $600,000 in campaign contributions from board members of Second Mile, then returned the favor by approving $3 Million in funding for Second Mile.

And all this took place DURING the Jerry Sandusky investigation! Then Corbett claimed that he didn't want to reduce the Second Mile funding because he thought it would jeopardize the Sandusky investigation.

 

[Raider Nation]

Jerry Sandusky's lawyers argued Thursday that the former Penn State assistant football coach should receive a new trial because they didn’t have time to properly prepare for his child molestation trial.Sandusky’s attorney told a court hearing that the defense was overburdened by more than 10,000 pages of documents."We felt we didn't have nearly sufficient time to review these materials the way we needed to," Joe Amendola said, according to the Allentown Morning Call. Sandusky's lawyers also argued that Judge John Cleland should have instructed jurors about the long lag time between the alleged abuse and when the accusers came forward, the Associated Press reported.Sandusky, 68, was convicted in June of sexually abusing 10 boys over 15 years. Some of the attacks took place in the showers of Penn State University’s football training facility.The accusations led to the departure of legendary football coach Joe Paterno, brought NCAA sanctions against the university and outraged the nation.Sandusky has maintained his innocence.“They can treat me as a monster. They can take away my heart, but I know in my heart that I did not do these alleged acts,” he said in October before being sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison.Cleland did not issue a ruling or say when he may come to a decision.

 

[Henry Ford]

Oh my God. They took away his HEART??

 

[Kiddnets]

Paterno family report is out....drum roll please.....it vindicates Joe Pa......shocker

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Can we change the thread title from accused to convicted?

 

[greenroom]

Paterno family report is out....drum roll please.....it vindicates Joe Pa......shocker

But it does raise good concerns about the Freeh report. Look Joe Pa should of done more, but just to dismiss this report is foolish and you have your head in the sand. I think this poses big problems for the NCAA since they used the Freeh report to discipline Penn State. If you think the Freeh report is solid then you also have to consider this report, since the ones that released this report are just as qualified as Mr. Freeh is. I am not saying Joe Pa is innocent or should not face the same judgment, but To me the emails lost prior to 2004 is a huge miss that was not reported. Both sides cherry picked what they wanted to help the point they wanted

 

[pantherclub]

Paterno family report is out....drum roll please.....it vindicates Joe Pa......shocker

But it does raise good concerns about the Freeh report.

Look Joe Pa should of done more, but just to dismiss this report is foolish and you have your head in the sand. I think this poses big problems for the NCAA since they used the Freeh report to discipline Penn State. If you think the Freeh report is solid then you also have to consider this report, since the ones that released this report are just as qualified as Mr. Freeh is. I am not saying Joe Pa is innocent or should not face the same judgment, but To me the emails lost prior to 2004 is a huge miss that was not reported. Both sides cherry picked what they wanted to help the point they wanted

such as?

 

[greenroom]

Paterno family report is out....drum roll please.....it vindicates Joe Pa......shocker

But it does raise good concerns about the Freeh report.

Look Joe Pa should of done more, but just to dismiss this report is foolish and you have your head in the sand. I think this poses big problems for the NCAA since they used the Freeh report to discipline Penn State. If you think the Freeh report is solid then you also have to consider this report, since the ones that released this report are just as qualified as Mr. Freeh is. I am not saying Joe Pa is innocent or should not face the same judgment, but To me the emails lost prior to 2004 is a huge miss that was not reported. Both sides cherry picked what they wanted to help the point they wanted

such as?

how about the main question of lack of sufficient information directly from who they consider took part of the cover up. Why did they not disclose that they did not have all of the emails, They really only used 30 sources instead of the number they reported. Look I am not saying that the Freeh Report is all wrong, but it is being used as the bible for the NCAA, which did no investigation on their own. And this report is just as creditable as that report which raises the stakes that the NCAA is going to have to pay out some serious $$$ or that Penn St could face some issues from those that support it. I am not talking about what Sandusky did do and how the entire community was part of his horrific mess. This is about the NCAA and what did with out a full investigation on their own.