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[Otis]

Jets already won in Indy this year. Of course, most people thought it was worth ignoring that the Jets already beat the Bengals, too.

I'm struggling here. I liked the Jets to at least beat the spread against the Chargers, and likely to beat them, and they did. The game went exactly as you would script it as a Jets fan. Low scoring, defense, run the clock, limited big plays downfield. It was perfect. It was easy money IMO.I'm really struggling with the Colts though. My heart wants the Jets to win, but my money and my head think the wise move is to bet on the Colts. I like Revis to shut down Wayne, and that will happen, but I think we'll see a crapload of Dallas Clark (yeah, I know Gates wasn't able to get it done alone, but I think Clark is every bit as talented and perhaps more clutch), and the Colts other receiving options trouble me. I also think Peyton Manning is about a billion times the QB that Rivers is, and comes through in the clutch. It's a more experienced team, real veterans, SB champions, and they'll be at home executing like a well-oiled machine. I just don't know how the Jets are gonna match up against them.I do think the Jets will need to rush for over 200 yards and Sanchez will have to open it up even more and make lots of 3rd-and-long plays for the Jets to win. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I just don't see it going according to plan quite as easily as it did against the Chargers...

 

[Otis]

I think the whole key is early on. Can the Jets hang or keep it close, then they can rely on their running game. But if its 14-0 and Sanchez has to get more involved, then the wheels can come off for them. Fundamentally, there are reasons to take the points with the Jets. Getting points with the superior defense AND running game is usually a solid bet. But the huge difference in the QB position may be enough to keep me off the side, and being a Colts fan, that's fine. The UNDER 41 (now 40 1/2 at some outlets) looks very, very solid, IMO.

 

[Otis]

for the 2nd week in a row, i think the train runs out of steam.Colts 24- Jets 13Same score i predicted for yesterday.

This is probably right, much as I hate to say it. The Colts and the UNDER are probably good bets here.

 

[Otis]

The Ravens O line is not as physical as the Jets line is. The Colts are a speed D, and they matchup better against the Ravens and Rice than they do with Jones- Greene and a power blocking scheme. I think the Jets will fare better than the Ravens running game did, but that won't be enough. Sanchez will probably have to play his best game as a pro, and still it would be very dicey. Dicey, but fun to watch.

Colts pass O vs Jets pass D= Advantage ColtsJets rush O vs Colts rush D= Big advantage JetsColts pass D vs. Jets Pass O= Big Advantage ColtsThe longer the game is close the better chance the Jets have.I expect the Colts to abuse the non-Revis' DBs and Safeties.Should be close with a strong chance of a Colts blowout with a few Sanchez turnovers.Fun to watch. I'll be there!

Definitely going to be a really fun game. By the way, Petyon Manning could be the smartest QB in football. He'll know exactly where Revis is on the field at all times. He'll play this smart.I agree we could see the Colts pass offense pick apart the Jets pass D. And if the Colts score a couple out of the gate early, the Jets would find themselves in serious trouble.

 

[Deepster]

I think the whole key is early on. Can the Jets hang or keep it close, then they can rely on their running game. But if its 14-0 and Sanchez has to get more involved, then the wheels can come off for them.

I don't know. I don't think this is completely true. I'd say, if the Jets need to put together late drives of 80+ yds, the Jets are in trouble. As you saw yesterday (and all year) the Jets D can force a turnover and only have to drive 16 yds to get a TD. Or they can pin a team inside the 10, get a punt returned across midfield and only go 40-45 yds for a TD.The D is so good that they make up for a lot of the field position that some QB's are usually responsible for covering.

 

[TLEF316]

My concern is that Manning will see every blitz coming and simply be able to pick the secondary apart. He's got enough good targets to do it.

I have a feeling that Clark is gonna kill the jets. I also think Garcon might catch a TD.

Unless the jets can get to Manning, i dont see them holding back the colts passing game.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Colts pass O vs Jets pass D= Advantage Colts

This shtick is gold.

 

[Chase Stuart]

How long before the first Colts fan to post?

Not worried about this one. Colts will stack the box with 8 or 9 and force Sanchez to beat them. Once you stop the running game by crowding the line, you'll see things spiral out of control for the Jets.

 

[munchkin]

My concern is that Manning will see every blitz coming and simply be able to pick the secondary apart. He's got enough good targets to do it.

I have a feeling that Clark is gonna kill the jets. I also think Garcon might catch a TD.

Unless the jets can get to Manning, i dont see them holding back the colts passing game.

I doubt Peyton will ignore Kerry Rhodes lined up alone on the outside. Now Rhodes may cause him to throw the ball earlier or away but unlike Rivers Manning will have him accounted for.

 

[TLEF316]

My concern is that Manning will see every blitz coming and simply be able to pick the secondary apart. He's got enough good targets to do it.

I have a feeling that Clark is gonna kill the jets. I also think Garcon might catch a TD.

Unless the jets can get to Manning, i dont see them holding back the colts passing game.

I doubt Peyton will ignore Kerry Rhodes lined up alone on the outside. Now Rhodes may cause him to throw the ball earlier or away but unlike Rivers Manning will have him accounted for.

thats exactly what i mean. You can rush manning, but its very hard to get to him (especially with a safety blitz).

 

[switz]

How long before the first Colts fan to post?

Not worried about this one. Colts will stack the box with 8 or 9 and force Sanchez to beat them. Once you stop the running game by crowding the line, you'll see things spiral out of control for the Jets.

I've already posted, just not what you quoted. Colts know how to handle the Jets already. I don't believe they need 8 or 9 in the box to stifle the running game. They knew how to stop the Ravens running game, which IMO is better than the Jets. It's not about stacking the box, it's about being fast and moving to the ball. The Colts do that very very well.I expect a closer game than the Ravens game, but I still expect Indy to pull out the win. Something like 23-10.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Baltimore's running game is certainly not better than the Jets' running game. The Jets averaged like 35 more rushing yards PER GAME than Baltimore this year. Ray Rice might be the best RB on either team, but the Jets clearly have the better overall running game.

 

[kremenull]

The Jets have a real shot to win this game because their HC Rex Ryan believes so. There isn't a coach in the league more beloved by his players than this guy, IMO. And they respond in kind by doing whatever it takes to make it happen on the field, playing a physical, yet disciplined, style of football that gives them a chance at winning these tough playoff games. With this o-line simply dominating and Ryan's defensive scheme simply shutting down offenses, the Jets just might pull it off again this weekend.

Keys to the game: Time of Possession, TDs in the red zone, special teams, and winning the turnover battle. If the Jets take a cue from the Miami-Indy game where the Fins easily controlled the clock in that game, I don't see the Colts making many big plays vs. this Jets defense as they did vs. Miami in order to win a game they had no business winning (T.O.P. 3/1 in favor of the Fins that game).

I'm not even a Jets fan, but I'm a big fan of Rex Ryan......U gotta love this guy

 

[JJP]

Baltimore's running game is certainly not better than the Jets' running game. The Jets averaged like 35 more rushing yards PER GAME than Baltimore this year. Ray Rice might be the best RB on either team, but the Jets clearly have the better overall running game.

 

[saintsfan]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.

I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

 

[TLEF316]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

 

[saintsfan]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

I'm not disagreeing with you. The Jets defense and running game always give them a chance, but the thing is, everything has to work perfectly. If they find themselves down by 10 or more, in all likelihood, you are looking at a blowout. Meanwhile, if the Jets come out on fire and jump on the Colts, the Colts aren't out of the game.

 

[BassNBrew]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.

I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

Not sure I buy this.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

I'm not disagreeing with you. The Jets defense and running game always give them a chance, but the thing is, everything has to work perfectly. If they find themselves down by 10 or more, in all likelihood, you are looking at a blowout. Meanwhile, if the Jets come out on fire and jump on the Colts, the Colts aren't out of the game.

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

 

[goldenchild]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

I'm not disagreeing with you. The Jets defense and running game always give them a chance, but the thing is, everything has to work perfectly. If they find themselves down by 10 or more, in all likelihood, you are looking at a blowout. Meanwhile, if the Jets come out on fire and jump on the Colts, the Colts aren't out of the game.

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

Manning doesn't need to have a perfect game for the Colts to have a chance. All Manning needs is to be within striking distance and a couple minutes left on the clock.

 

[MCguidance]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

I'm not disagreeing with you. The Jets defense and running game always give them a chance, but the thing is, everything has to work perfectly. If they find themselves down by 10 or more, in all likelihood, you are looking at a blowout. Meanwhile, if the Jets come out on fire and jump on the Colts, the Colts aren't out of the game.

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

Manning doesn't need to have a perfect game for the Colts to have a chance. All Manning needs is to be within striking distance and a couple minutes left on the clock.

The same is not true for the Jets? I guess it comes down to how many minutes are left. 2 min offense is advantage Manning. 4/5 minutes, I might think the Jets have the advantage.

 

[pizzatyme]

Colts pass O vs Jets pass D= Advantage Colts

This shtick is gold.

Chase, there isn't a pass D I'd take against Manning, ever. You see it differently and that is okay. Manning and the Colts have faced better Defenses. The Jets haven't faced a better passing attack/passer than the Colts and Manning.Keep believing the Jets shut down the Colts passing attack, it good schtick for me to watch!

 

[pizzatyme]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

I'm not disagreeing with you. The Jets defense and running game always give them a chance, but the thing is, everything has to work perfectly. If they find themselves down by 10 or more, in all likelihood, you are looking at a blowout. Meanwhile, if the Jets come out on fire and jump on the Colts, the Colts aren't out of the game.

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

Laughable! The Jets are better in every other phase of the game besides Manning?

 

[switz]

Baltimore's running game is certainly not better than the Jets' running game. The Jets averaged like 35 more rushing yards PER GAME than Baltimore this year. Ray Rice might be the best RB on either team, but the Jets clearly have the better overall running game.

The Jets also ran the ball about 140 more times, you'd expect their overall yardage to be higher. The telling stat is that on a per attempt basis, the Ravens got more yardage. They run the ball BETTER, the Jets run the ball MORE OFTEN. There is a difference between those two.HTH

 

[switz]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.

I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

I'm not disagreeing with you. The Jets defense and running game always give them a chance, but the thing is, everything has to work perfectly. If they find themselves down by 10 or more, in all likelihood, you are looking at a blowout. Meanwhile, if the Jets come out on fire and jump on the Colts, the Colts aren't out of the game.

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

Come on Case, there's fandom, then there's fantasy. You're in the fantasy realm currently. Colts have better WRs, better TE, better QB. There's no argument possible there.

On the other hand, Jets have better running game, better run blocking OL, and better overall D. There's no argument possible there.

There are other areas where I think it's arguable that the Colts are better than the Jets, or that the Jets are better than the Colts. But I don't think it's clearly in favor one way or the other.

 

[Deepster]

Keep believing the Jets shut down the Colts passing attack, it good schtick for me to watch!

Well, one way of shutting down the passing attack is by running the ball, holding the time of possession advantage and keeping Manning off the field.Keep believing the Colts are going to shut down the Jets rushing attack, it's good schtick for me to watch!

 

[pizzatyme]

Keep believing the Jets shut down the Colts passing attack, it good schtick for me to watch!

Well, one way of shutting down the passing attack is by running the ball, holding the time of possession advantage and keeping Manning off the field.Keep believing the Colts are going to shut down the Jets rushing attack, it's good schtick for me to watch!

Yep, that's what I heard last week from Ravens fans!

 

[Deepster]

Keep believing the Jets shut down the Colts passing attack, it good schtick for me to watch!

Well, one way of shutting down the passing attack is by running the ball, holding the time of possession advantage and keeping Manning off the field.Keep believing the Colts are going to shut down the Jets rushing attack, it's good schtick for me to watch!

Yep, that's what I heard last week from Ravens fans!

Yep, that's what I heard last week from Chargers fans!

 

[Otis]

Sorry. I just don't see the Jets beating the Colts with Sanchez "managing" the game. Out of the teams left in the playoffs, the Jets still have the worst QB and it's not even really close.

I know many thought the same thing last week (as did I), but Manning is on another level than Rivers.

i dont disagree with this (Sanchez is obviously the worst left and i think colts will win). But again, just like last week (and the week before that) people need to recognize that the ability to throw the football is not the only factor in winning games. I probably counted a dozen "Rivers> Sanchez so the Chargers win" posts last week. Defense and the running game count as well. And IMO, the jets have the best of both of those left (although the vikings running game would probably be better if they were fully commited to it).

Regarding the bolded above, I think an important point is that even those of us who DID recognize this importance, and who picked the Jets to beat the Chargers, are now here saying "ok, run's over, they won't do it against the Colts."

 

[Otis]

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

Of course. Manning doesn't need to have the perfect game at all. He could throw multiple picks and still win this. I think an important point here is that it is VERY unlikely we'll see a Manning meltdown; but a Sanchez meltdown is absolutely within the realm of possibility. And Sanchez has much less margin for error than Manning, so if anyone needs to have a near perfect game, it's Sanchez. I think he literally needs to have his best game as a pro.

 

[Power Monster]

Manning vs. Sanchez? The Colts defense containing the running game. Manning going underneath again and taking what the defense will give him. The Jets marching out a formidable offensive line. The Colts playing aggressive defense at home. This is going to be an up front in your face take a punch here and a sock there type of game. The Jets are going to try dictate the physical aspect of the game but this one is going to come down to the mistakes. This Jets team is very well coached with a roster filled with solid young talent and you have to believe that the team is going to put to rest the notion(s) that they would have never been in the playoffs if not for the Colts resting their players in the second half of their December game. The Jets seem to just wait patiently for the running game to get it going but Sanchez has been delivering when it matters. Manning will just take what you give him until they score. This is going to be a great game. The Colts are a serious contender to go back to Miami. I think it comes down to the QBs and the turn over differential.

 

[pizzatyme]

Keep believing the Jets shut down the Colts passing attack, it good schtick for me to watch!

Well, one way of shutting down the passing attack is by running the ball, holding the time of possession advantage and keeping Manning off the field.Keep believing the Colts are going to shut down the Jets rushing attack, it's good schtick for me to watch!

Yep, that's what I heard last week from Ravens fans!

Yep, that's what I heard last week from Chargers fans!

Bored.

 

[saintsfan]

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

Of course. Manning doesn't need to have the perfect game at all. He could throw multiple picks and still win this. I think an important point here is that it is VERY unlikely we'll see a Manning meltdown; but a Sanchez meltdown is absolutely within the realm of possibility. And Sanchez has much less margin for error than Manning, so if anyone needs to have a near perfect game, it's Sanchez. I think he literally needs to have his best game as a pro.

Not only that, but if Sanchez comes out and has a bad game and the Jets fall behind by a couple of scores, the Jets are done.IMO, the Jets could jump out on the Colts 14-0 and IMO, the Colts could still win the game. That's the difference between having a great QB and a game manager. if Peyton needs to put the Colts on his back, he can. The Jets have no such luxury.

 

[Joe T]

I picked the Jets to beat Chargers last week.

The Jets defense and running game definitely will keep them in the game versus the Colts.

But there are two huge differences in the Chargers and the Colts. The Colts have a superior quarterback and they are not likely to have a meltdown at the kicker position.

I think the Colts win a farily close game here, 20 - 10. But it could be 13 - 10 or so going into the fourth.

 

[JJP]

It seems to me if you're a team that's better at one position and the other team is better at everything else, it's the former team that needs everything to work perfectly. If Peyton Manning doesn't have a perfect game, do the Colts have any chance?

Of course. Manning doesn't need to have the perfect game at all. He could throw multiple picks and still win this. I think an important point here is that it is VERY unlikely we'll see a Manning meltdown; but a Sanchez meltdown is absolutely within the realm of possibility. And Sanchez has much less margin for error than Manning, so if anyone needs to have a near perfect game, it's Sanchez. I think he literally needs to have his best game as a pro.

Not only that, but if Sanchez comes out and has a bad game and the Jets fall behind by a couple of scores, the Jets are done.IMO, the Jets could jump out on the Colts 14-0 and IMO, the Colts could still win the game. That's the difference between having a great QB and a game manager. if Peyton needs to put the Colts on his back, he can. The Jets have no such luxury.

I don't think they will, but IF the Jets were to get a 14-0 lead, I think they very well could end up winning the game outright. Their strengths are their running game and pass defense, so they would be able to milk the clock, and force the Colts into long drives to try to catch up. The game in Indy last weekend was definitely closer than the final score indicated. Tremendous heads up play by Garcon to avert an immediate red zone possession for the Ravens and I believe there was another very large gainer brought back by penalty. But one thing about this Colts team, they don't have to play perfect to win, and they have shown they can win a close game.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Colts pass O vs Jets pass D= Advantage Colts

This shtick is gold.

Chase, there isn't a pass D I'd take against Manning, ever. You see it differently and that is okay. Manning and the Colts have faced better Defenses. The Jets haven't faced a better passing attack/passer than the Colts and Manning.Keep believing the Jets shut down the Colts passing attack, it good schtick for me to watch!

The Colts haven't faced a better pass defense. And it's not even close.Not only have the Jets faced close passing attacks, they've arguably faced betters ones from NO and SD.

 

[Jerry Lawler]

It seems like each week I read analysts and fans repeating the familiar formula for beating the Colts: "Use the power running game to control the ball and eat up clock. The best way to stop Peyton Manning is to keep him on the sidelines". It makes sense intuitively because the Colts defense is very small, and it doesn't seem likely you'd win a shootout against Manning. The problem is that, while this gameplan is usually successful in keeping the game relatively close, it is almost never successful in producing wins. In the past few years, the Colts' losses in meaningful games have typically come against teams with QB's like Brady and Rivers, who exploit matchups with Colts DB's, who are selected as much for run support as they are for cover skills. These teams thatalso often use draws and misdirection plays to exploit the Colts' speed and aggressiveness, rather than using power running plays that are met with a crowd of fast LB's and DB's.

I'm not saying the Jets have no chance, just that I think it's time to question the prevailing opinion on how to beat the Colts.

 

[JJP]

It seems like each week I read analysts and fans repeating the familiar formula for beating the Colts: "Use the power running game to control the ball and eat up clock. The best way to stop Peyton Manning is to keep him on the sidelines". It makes sense intuitively because the Colts defense is very small, and it doesn't seem likely you'd win a shootout against Manning. The problem is that, while this gameplan is usually successful in keeping the game relatively close, it is almost never successful in producing wins. In the past few years, the Colts' losses in meaningful games have typically come against teams with QB's like Brady and Rivers, who exploit matchups with Colts DB's, who are selected as much for run support as they are for cover skills. These teams thatalso often use draws and misdirection plays to exploit the Colts' speed and aggressiveness, rather than using power running plays that are met with a crowd of fast LB's and DB's. I'm not saying the Jets have no chance, just that I think it's time to question the prevailing opinion on how to beat the Colts.

In pointspread terms, I agree with the early assertion. No question you need a running team, punish the smallish D and keep Peyton off the field as much as possible. Jacksonville has played the Colts tough in recent years and had some narrow losses but not many wins. Last year, the Bears in the season opener were a good example of that, although they won outright.But when the Colts get the early jump, the fact they are undersized doesn't matter because they force the team to throw in the catch-up mode. And this plays into the hands of the Colts D, with Freeney and Mathis rushing the passer and guys like Brackett and Sessions swarming to the ball. Don't see too many come from behind wins against the Colts.

 

[switz]

The Colts haven't faced a better pass defense. And it's not even close.

You're right, the Jets have the #1 D in points against, and #8 in yards against. Teams simply didn't throw much against them, and their passing stats against are great.They have struggled a bit against the upper tier QBs though, including Manning who had 192 yards in a little over a half, and Brady who had 310 against them.

Not only have the Jets faced close passing attacks, they've arguably faced betters ones from NO and SD.

Colts have the #1 passing offense in terms of passing TDsColts have the #2 passing offense measured in yards per gameColts have #4 in terms of completion percentage (NO beats them in this)Colts are #10 in YPA (Saints and Chargers beat them here)Colts have more 20+ yard plays than Saints or ChargersColts have taken fewer sacks than Chargers or SaintsAnd that's with Craptis Painter playing QB for portions of a couple games.

 

[brobe4]

This will be a very close game and should be decided in the last minutes. Jets are tough.

Go Colts

 

[PinkydaPimp]

all this talk about the jets having no chance is ridiculous. how quickly we forget how badly peyton has performed in the post season on many an occasion. i would not be the least bit shocked if he tossed up 3 picks. hes one of the best qbs we have ever seen. But he has been known to play poorly in the post season. If indy cant get out to a big lead early, i could see the jets stealing it.

 

[Reaper]

all this talk about the jets having no chance is ridiculous. how quickly we forget how badly peyton has performed in the post season on many an occasion. i would not be the least bit shocked if he tossed up 3 picks. hes one of the best qbs we have ever seen. But he has been known to play poorly in the post season. If indy cant get out to a big lead early, i could see the jets stealing it.

Jan. 4, 2003 - AFC Wild Card - N.Y. Jets 41, Indianapolis 0

 

[pizzatyme]

all this talk about the jets having no chance is ridiculous. how quickly we forget how badly peyton has performed in the post season on many an occasion. i would not be the least bit shocked if he tossed up 3 picks. hes one of the best qbs we have ever seen. But he has been known to play poorly in the post season. If indy cant get out to a big lead early, i could see the jets stealing it.

Jan. 4, 2003 - AFC Wild Card - N.Y. Jets 41, Indianapolis 0

Since then?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Baltimore's running game is certainly not better than the Jets' running game. The Jets averaged like 35 more rushing yards PER GAME than Baltimore this year. Ray Rice might be the best RB on either team, but the Jets clearly have the better overall running game.

The Jets also ran the ball about 140 more times, you'd expect their overall yardage to be higher. The telling stat is that on a per attempt basis, the Ravens got more yardage. They run the ball BETTER, the Jets run the ball MORE OFTEN. There is a difference between those two.HTH

Looking it over: -The Jets averaged 40 carries for 172 yards per game; that is 4.5 YPC. -The Ravens averaged 29 carries for 138 yards per game; that is 4.7 YPC.The Ravens YPC might be slightly higher, but the Jets are better at controlling the clock with their running game. I'll take a team running the ball 40 times for 172 yards over a team running the ball 29 times for 138 yards any day of the week; it means you are controlling the clock, dictating the pace of the game, and not allowing the opposing teams' offense on the field. The Jets were 7th in the NFL in time of possession; the Ravens were 19th.

 

[ThePittbully]

Jet's offense gets shut down by Indy, no way they win this game

 

[Raider Nation]

Wait for it...

Wait for it...

I **guarantee** a victory for the J-E-T-S this Sunday!

They cannot be stopped. It's destiny.

 

[Reaper]

all this talk about the jets having no chance is ridiculous. how quickly we forget how badly peyton has performed in the post season on many an occasion. i would not be the least bit shocked if he tossed up 3 picks. hes one of the best qbs we have ever seen. But he has been known to play poorly in the post season. If indy cant get out to a big lead early, i could see the jets stealing it.

Jan. 4, 2003 - AFC Wild Card - N.Y. Jets 41, Indianapolis 0

Since then?

They haven't met in the playoffs since then.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Jets 16, Colts 7

 

[Captain Placeholder]

Colts pass O vs Jets pass D= Advantage Colts

This shtick is gold.

Chase, there isn't a pass D I'd take against Manning, ever. You see it differently and that is okay. Manning and the Colts have faced better Defenses. The Jets haven't faced a better passing attack/passer than the Colts and Manning.Keep believing the Jets shut down the Colts passing attack, it good schtick for me to watch!

The Colts haven't faced a better pass defense. And it's not even close.Not only have the Jets faced close passing attacks, they've arguably faced betters ones from NO and SD.

Do you need a wet nap?

 

[switz]

Baltimore's running game is certainly not better than the Jets' running game. The Jets averaged like 35 more rushing yards PER GAME than Baltimore this year. Ray Rice might be the best RB on either team, but the Jets clearly have the better overall running game.

The Jets also ran the ball about 140 more times, you'd expect their overall yardage to be higher. The telling stat is that on a per attempt basis, the Ravens got more yardage. They run the ball BETTER, the Jets run the ball MORE OFTEN. There is a difference between those two.HTH

Looking it over: -The Jets averaged 40 carries for 172 yards per game; that is 4.5 YPC. -The Ravens averaged 29 carries for 138 yards per game; that is 4.7 YPC.The Ravens YPC might be slightly higher, but the Jets are better at controlling the clock with their running game. I'll take a team running the ball 40 times for 172 yards over a team running the ball 29 times for 138 yards any day of the week; it means you are controlling the clock, dictating the pace of the game, and not allowing the opposing teams' offense on the field. The Jets were 7th in the NFL in time of possession; the Ravens were 19th.

I agree the Jets are more dedicated to their running game. I just don't agree they are better at running the ball, they clearly aren't. The difference in time of possession is easily attributed to the Ravens failing to sustain drives when they put the ball in Flacco's hands. If they tried running the ball on a few more of those occasions, they may have increased their time of possession significantly.We'll see this weak if the Colts can do the same thing to the Jets running game as they did to Baltimore's. I'm fairly confident they can. My biggest concern is that as the game wears on, and the Jets stick to the run despite being behind, that the running game will begin to result in big plays. The Ravens strayed a bit from the running game as the Colts built a lead. I don't see the Jets doing that, and so I can see them coming back in the 4th due to a couple big running plays against a tired defense.This leads to the Super Bowl and my concern with the Colts defense when the opponent can keep the game close with a strong passing game, which both NO and MIN have. If the game is close, and the opponent has a strong running game, I can see the Colts losing a close game at the end, due to the opponent running on them as they tire out.I hope not, but it seems likely.As far as this week goes, I just can't see the Jets being able to keep pace with the Colts scoring.