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Katrina (1 Viewer)

For reference, the hurricane of '38 had a low pressure reading of 27.94. Katrina is at 26.74 now! :eek:

ETA-Camille was lower at 26.84.

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No ####### around, Tipsy. I like you and know you have a new child. I don't want you to regret not getting out while there's time. GO! This may be the worst storm in the history of record keeping, so there may be no precedent at all for just how devasting it may be.
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Do you even read other posts?
 
You know in those disaster movies where there's always one character who's sole purpose is to just make the situation worse? He says amazingly stupid things and gets on everyones nerves - by the end of some films he gets punched and everyone cheers. I hate that guy. :looksatham:

 
can you confirm that? 902? :shock:
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Weather Channel just reported that. I think they said that Camille was 908 (?) when it came ashore. They also said that Andrew was 926 I think. 89 degree water temperature in the gulf is like adding fuel to the fire of this thing. Simply amazing.

 
You know in those disaster movies where there's always one character who's sole purpose is to just make the situation worse? He says amazingly stupid things and gets on everyones nerves - by the end of some films he gets punched and everyone cheers. I hate that guy.

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No ####### around, Tipsy.  I like you and know you have a new child.  I don't want you to regret not getting out while there's time.  GO!  This may be the worst storm in the history of record keeping, so there may be no precedent at all for just how devasting it may be.
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Do you even read other posts?
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Have you ever BEEN to Pensacola?
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three times and you?
 
No ####### around, Tipsy. I like you and know you have a new child. I don't want you to regret not getting out while there's time. GO! This may be the worst storm in the history of record keeping, so there may be no precedent at all for just how devasting it may be.
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Do you even read other posts?
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Have you ever BEEN to Pensacola?
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we are very safe. going to a family gathering right now. pcola is fine for this one...will probably have some hurricane gusts, but we are FINE!
 
You know in those disaster movies where there's always one character who's sole purpose is to just make the situation worse? He says amazingly stupid things and gets on everyones nerves - by the end of some films he gets punched and everyone cheers. I hate that guy.

:looksatham:
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Personally, I like Mr. Ham but that was awesome, even by your standards. :thumbup:

 
DO we even have enough National Guard left in country to handle this type disaster?The looting in New Orleans will be widespread, I bet.

 
You know in those disaster movies where there's always one character who's sole purpose is to just make the situation worse? He says amazingly stupid things and gets on everyones nerves - by the end of some films he gets punched and everyone cheers. I hate that guy.

:looksatham:
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Personally, I like Mr. Ham but that was awesome, even by your standards. :thumbup:
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I completely agree.
 
can you confirm that? 902? :shock:
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Weather Channel just reported that. I think they said that Camille was 908 (?) when it came ashore. They also said that Andrew was 926 I think. 89 degree water temperature in the gulf is like adding fuel to the fire of this thing. Simply amazing.
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89 degrees?!! Is that the normal temp this time of year? We've got high 60's/low 70's here and that's about as warm as it gets. 89 just sounds freaky to me.

 
They're using the Superdome as an emergency shelter. Any structural engineers out there? Who's to say the Dome can handle sustained 175+ MPH winds?
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No kidding, my wife was like :shock: "Isn't the roof going to just fly right off?" They'll probably find it in central MS somewhere come Tuesday.
 
Just spoke to a friend of mine from NO who is on a business trip in Montreal. She doubts she will have a home to go back to.

 
can you confirm that? 902? :shock:
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Weather Channel just reported that. I think they said that Camille was 908 (?) when it came ashore. They also said that Andrew was 926 I think. 89 degree water temperature in the gulf is like adding fuel to the fire of this thing. Simply amazing.
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Can someone please explain the significance of a low number of millibars to me [like Im a ######ed midget]?I looked it up at Wikipedia but there wasn't much meaningful info.

 
Can someone please explain the significance of a low number of millibars to me [like Im a ######ed midget]?I looked it up at Wikipedia but there wasn't much meaningful info.
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A hurricane is an extreme area of low pressure. Normal sea level pressure is 1013mb. For the non-metric types, and what you usually hear during the weather segment on the news, normal is 29.92inches.
 
can you confirm that? 902? :shock:
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Weather Channel just reported that. I think they said that Camille was 908 (?) when it came ashore. They also said that Andrew was 926 I think. 89 degree water temperature in the gulf is like adding fuel to the fire of this thing. Simply amazing.
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Can someone please explain the significance of a low number of millibars to me [like Im a ######ed midget]?I looked it up at Wikipedia but there wasn't much meaningful info.
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Lower number = stronger hurricane.
 
They're using the Superdome as an emergency shelter. Any structural engineers out there? Who's to say the Dome can handle sustained 175+ MPH winds?
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Supposedly it was designed to withstand 200+ MPH winds, but it's age and the fact that no one is really sure that it can sustain such a pounding has more than a few people nervous. Regardless, if you can't leave the city, that's still your best bet.
 
can you confirm that? 902? :shock:
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Weather Channel just reported that. I think they said that Camille was 908 (?) when it came ashore. They also said that Andrew was 926 I think. 89 degree water temperature in the gulf is like adding fuel to the fire of this thing. Simply amazing.
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Can someone please explain the significance of a low number of millibars to me [like Im a ######ed midget]?I looked it up at Wikipedia but there wasn't much meaningful info.
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Lower number = stronger hurricane.
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Air moves from high pressure to low pressure. When that happens, it's called wind. The lower the pressure is compared to the higher pressure, the faster the air moves. Thus, the lower the air pressure, the faster the wind is thus creating much bigger, more destructive storms.
 
My God. Katrina is to Andrew like Randy Moss is to D-Jax. Prayers and best wishes go out to all LA/NO folks. Katrina did substantial damage here in Miami and it was only Cat 1.Sulla

 
Sweet jeebus - it keeps getting worse. I work downtown, am I'm guessing I won't be back at work this week. I love new orleans more than any city in the world, and I just hope to god everything is going to be ok.Obviously, safety is a priority, but on the economic side we have virtually zero industry outside of tourism, so this will be very drastic for our city.

 
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Storm surge is projected to be 25ft.Most levee systems here in S Louisiana are 7-12ft, that means there will be 12-18ft of water coming over the levee.

 
Sweet jeebus - it keeps getting worse. I work downtown, am I'm guessing I won't be back at work this week. I love new orleans more than any city in the world, and I just hope to god everything is going to be ok.

Obviously, safety is a priority, but on the economic side we have virtually zero industry outside of tourism, so this will be very drastic for our city.
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I doubt that the powers to be will let New Orleans flood w/o putting up a fight.One of the levees in the lower lying parrishes will "break", draining the storm surge away from New Orleans. It's happened before.

 
They're using the Superdome as an emergency shelter.  Any structural engineers out there?  Who's to say the Dome can handle sustained 175+ MPH winds?
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Supposedly it was designed to withstand 200+ MPH winds, but it's age and the fact that no one is really sure that it can sustain such a pounding has more than a few people nervous. Regardless, if you can't leave the city, that's still your best bet.
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The flooding is probably an even bigger concern?
 
Sweet jeebus - it keeps getting worse.  I work downtown, am I'm guessing I won't be back at work this week.  I love new orleans more than any city in the world, and I just hope to god everything is going to be ok.

Obviously, safety is a priority, but on the economic side we have virtually zero industry outside of tourism, so this will be very drastic for our city.
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I doubt that the powers to be will let New Orleans flood w/o putting up a fight.One of the levees in the lower lying parrishes will "break", draining the storm surge away from New Orleans. It's happened before.
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Do you have any inside info from local law enforcement? :unsure:
 
Geez, I just remembered my Aunt and Uncle just finished building their retirement home in Bush, LA. (my poor Aunt-a died in the wool liberal Yankee, retiring to a town called Bush!) Took them an extra year because all the building supplies were going to Florida to help rebuild after all the hurricanes there.I guess Bush is about 10 miles or so north of Lake Pontchartrain. Crossing my fingers for them.

 
They're using the Superdome as an emergency shelter.  Any structural engineers out there?  Who's to say the Dome can handle sustained 175+ MPH winds?
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Supposedly it was designed to withstand 200+ MPH winds, but it's age and the fact that no one is really sure that it can sustain such a pounding has more than a few people nervous. Regardless, if you can't leave the city, that's still your best bet.
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The flooding is probably an even bigger concern?
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Well I heard that the Superdome is about 18 feet above sea level whereas the average land in the area is 4-5 below sea level. It's still a concern, though -- looking at this storm, there's nothing that I wouldn't be concerned about.
 
Sweet jeebus - it keeps getting worse.  I work downtown, am I'm guessing I won't be back at work this week.  I love new orleans more than any city in the world, and I just hope to god everything is going to be ok.

Obviously, safety is a priority, but on the economic side we have virtually zero industry outside of tourism, so this will be very drastic for our city.
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I doubt that the powers to be will let New Orleans flood w/o putting up a fight.One of the levees in the lower lying parrishes will "break", draining the storm surge away from New Orleans. It's happened before.
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My friend mentioned she lives in one of these lower lying parrishes and was certain they would sacrifice her neighborhood in a heartbeat to try and save the city center. She left for a five day trip to Canada on Friday without thinking that she could be seeing her home and her possesions for the last time.My heart goes out to the good people of New Orleans and everyone stuck in the path of this disaster.

 
They should close the highway in the other direction and let people drive away on both sides...
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They do - call it Contra Flow. But I guess it only goes on for so long.
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That's good...b/c they keep on showing these shots of the hoghway out of NO packed bumper to bumper with not a car in sight heading towards the city...
 
One of the levees in the lower lying parrishes will "break", draining the storm surge away from New Orleans. It's happened before.
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This happened in 1965 for Betsy. The levee near the Ninth Ward was actually blown apart with dynamite.
 
Sweet jeebus - it keeps getting worse.  I work downtown, am I'm guessing I won't be back at work this week.  I love new orleans more than any city in the world, and I just hope to god everything is going to be ok.

Obviously, safety is a priority, but on the economic side we have virtually zero industry outside of tourism, so this will be very drastic for our city.
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I doubt that the powers to be will let New Orleans flood w/o putting up a fight.One of the levees in the lower lying parrishes will "break", draining the storm surge away from New Orleans. It's happened before.
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According to my dad, who has lived in NO all his life, this is a myth. He's trying to verify it online as we speak
 
Sweet jeebus - it keeps getting worse.  I work downtown, am I'm guessing I won't be back at work this week.  I love new orleans more than any city in the world, and I just hope to god everything is going to be ok.

Obviously, safety is a priority, but on the economic side we have virtually zero industry outside of tourism, so this will be very drastic for our city.
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I doubt that the powers to be will let New Orleans flood w/o putting up a fight.One of the levees in the lower lying parrishes will "break", draining the storm surge away from New Orleans. It's happened before.
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According to my dad, who has lived in NO all his life, this is a myth. He's trying to verify it online as we speak
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Somebody official on CNN said they may have to blow the levies after the fact to drain the water, if it appears it will take months to get the pumps working.
 
As of right now, the weather channel dude said the track has Mississippi receiving the greatest impact. NO will receive much damage too, even with this current projected path.

 
LinkLooks like the city authorized the levee blow ups in 1927, however the Betsy rumors have never been substantiated.
One of the issues raised in An Evening with Betsy and in any casual rehashing of Hurricane Betsy's devastation is the speculation that the Army Corps of Engineers, at the behest of the city, actually blew up the levee at a certain point in the storm, thus sacrificing the neighborhoods in that vicinity in order to spare the French Quarter from extreme damage. While it is true that the Florida Avenue levee was breached and that led to greater flooding in the Ninth Ward and Chalmette, so far there have only been rumors that this breach was intentional. The source of the rumors may lie in the collective memory of the 1927 flood, when the city did authorize the destruction of the levees further up river for the ostensible purpose of preserving the more expensive sectors of the city. "Ever since the 1927 flood, if there's a hurricane scare, people out in St. Bernard start saying they've seen someone putting dynamite into the trunk of the car," says Keith Wagner, the project manager with the Hurricane Protection Program administered by the Army Corps of Engineers. Wagner explains that the levees in 1965 were relatively low and weak, made of trees and mud that had been dredged for the Industrial Canal, and they were overwhelmed by the volume of Gulf water pushed up the river. Plus, he says, the wind created such a harsh chop that it eroded those 965 levees to the breaking point. Wagner also adds that a hurricane is fast and changeable, and therefore it would be impossible for the Army Corps of Engineers or anyone to direct in a predictable manner where the water would go if the levees were breached. "When the Gulf of Mexico is coming your way, there would be no reason to blow the levee. It would not help," he concludes. The Army Corps of Engineer's Hurricane Protection Program came into existence as a result of Betsy. It built new levees that are both taller and made of stronger material, designed specifically to resist a fast-moving Category Three hurricane like Betsy. "If we get a storm of greater intensity that stays and pumps a lot of water onto us, then we could have flooding again," Wagner says
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shutting this machine down to raise it off the floor. And gonna finish packing and head out the the resteraunt.See you guys on Tuesday (Hopefully :thumbup: )

 
shutting this machine down to raise it off the floor. And gonna finish packing and head out the the resteraunt.

See you guys on Tuesday (Hopefully :thumbup: )
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GL buddy. BTW, which restaurant in Kenner are you talking about? Just bought a house in Driftwood.
 
Just talked to my parents in NO. They live at the foot of the Huey P. Long Bridge, right across the river from Tipsy's place. It's one of the hightest points in the city and is well-protected by levees. They've got a whole-house generator and are all boarded up and hunkering down.I'm really worried, but it looks like it's going to head far enough to the east to prevent a huge storm surge from slamming the city.

 
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Looks like the city authorized the levee blow ups in 1927, however the Betsy rumors have never been substantiated.

One of the issues raised in An Evening with Betsy and in any casual rehashing of Hurricane Betsy's devastation is the speculation that the Army Corps of Engineers, at the behest of the city, actually blew up the levee at a certain point in the storm, thus sacrificing the neighborhoods in that vicinity in order to spare the French Quarter from extreme damage. While it is true that the Florida Avenue levee was breached and that led to greater flooding in the Ninth Ward and Chalmette, so far there have only been rumors that this breach was intentional.

The source of the rumors may lie in the collective memory of the 1927 flood, when the city did authorize the destruction of the levees further up river for the ostensible purpose of preserving the more expensive sectors of the city.

"Ever since the 1927 flood, if there's a hurricane scare, people out in St. Bernard start saying they've seen someone putting dynamite into the trunk of the car," says Keith Wagner, the project manager with the Hurricane Protection Program administered by the Army Corps of Engineers. Wagner explains that the levees in 1965 were relatively low and weak, made of trees and mud that had been dredged for the Industrial Canal, and they were overwhelmed by the volume of Gulf water pushed up the river. Plus, he says, the wind created such a harsh chop that it eroded those 965 levees to the breaking point.

Wagner also adds that a hurricane is fast and changeable, and therefore it would be impossible for the Army Corps of Engineers or anyone to direct in a predictable manner where the water would go if the levees were breached. "When the Gulf of Mexico is coming your way, there would be no reason to blow the levee. It would not help," he concludes.

The Army Corps of Engineer's Hurricane Protection Program came into existence as a result of Betsy. It built new levees that are both taller and made of stronger material, designed specifically to resist a fast-moving Category Three hurricane like Betsy. "If we get a storm of greater intensity that stays and pumps a lot of water onto us, then we could have flooding again," Wagner says
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Like ANYONE is going to admit that they authorized a "death sentence" to anyone in those parishes who were still stuck there at the time of the "levee failure". "The needs of the many..........."Later guys, if they have dialup at the restaraunt, I'll be back on.
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shutting this machine down to raise it off the floor. And gonna finish packing and head out the the resteraunt.

See you guys on Tuesday (Hopefully :thumbup: )
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Good luck and GB...
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LaBella's. Two block off Williams on Vets. The only thing is that they will be open to only emergency officals, but knowing Joey (the owner) he'll try to help anyone he can. He's a good man.
 
shutting this machine down to raise it off the floor.  And gonna finish packing and head out the the resteraunt.

See you guys on Tuesday (Hopefully  :thumbup:   )
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Good luck and GB...
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LaBella's. Two block off Williams on Vets. The only thing is that they will be open to only emergency officals, but knowing Joey (the owner) he'll try to help anyone he can. He's a good man.
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I'm not there right now, just curious.GL

 
Fox News had on professor from LSU saying the city could easily be in an ATLANTIS type state for 90 days...Holy ####.It was a professor form LSU coupled with Fox news so proceed with caution.

 
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