What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Katrina

Oh, talked to my father last night. One of their friends has a mother and family living in New Orleans. Evactuated to Baton Rouge with what they could fit in their car, and have now rented an apartment there. No furniture... nothing, but they do have a roof over their heads.

PC, according to my friend, the Coast Guard said it's WORSE than what's being reported on TV.
Click to expand...
Jplvr, what is worse? The damage or the looting?
 
This link has elevation maps of the city and neighborhoods. My house is right above the "S" in Tchoupitoulas St. on the Uptown side. I've heard that my house suffered little to no damage from the wind, now it's wait and see if the water does what Katrina didn't.

Link

edit: I misread the map, I'm a few blocks over.
Click to expand...
Great link, Squirrels. Thanks for the info.
 
Well, just got off the phone with friend. Future MIL required to stay as a department head of a local hospital in NO. Anyway, he's saying there have been criminals trying to break in there EVERY night since the storm hit. One lady went outside for just a moment and was robbed at gunpoint. Her husband and son have even tried to procure a boat to go in there and get them out themselves, but the Coast Guard basically told them it's MUCH worse than you are seeing on TV. Basically they'd be dead before they got to the hotel. Said that people who were volunteering to help were being shot and having their boats stolen because they didn't have an armed escort in the boat.

Naturally his gf is freaking out. I believe he's heading to Baton Rouge to take her to be with her step-father and brother during this ####, because she's losing it up here.

Oh, her mother said that she won't be living in New Orleans after this experience.

I've said it from the start that we needed to shoot the looters, but it's time to start treating this area like a war zone.
Click to expand...
This answers my previous question. I heard some of this previously. Thanks, jplvr.
 
FBG RELIEF FUND?

Just an idea I thought of....I think we could organize something here on the forums for our fellow FBGs that live in the areas that were hit hard by Katrina, where we could make donations to help them out a bit and help them get back on their feet....A FBG Relief fund!

I know alot of people have already made donations to help the hurricane victims, but how about giving a little extra to help those that have become our iFriends through these forums?? FBGs helping FBGs. I dont know how many users live in the areas that were hit hard, but they will all need a little help, and every little bit helps. Some of our very own will be without a place to call home or a job to provide income for who knows how long. Most have families to provide for.

Maybe we could designate someone to be the one to accept funds via paypal or money order and put together a list of users that could use a bit of help right now...

Even if only 100 FBGs (out of 16,000+ members) each donate $10, that would be $1000 we could divide between the FBG Katrina victims. If there were 10 usernames on the list, that would be $100 for each. $100 seems like a drop in the bucket, but $100 could by a weeks worth of groceries, or diapers, or medicine, or clothing.....it WOULD make a difference.

What say you, FBGs? A feasible idea?? Im all for it and will be 1st in line to help out my fellow FBGs. Heck, Id even be willing to send a bit of cash via paypal directly to any FBG whose life has been put on hold by Katrina.

 
Just an update for the FBG...

Me and Mrs. WS are safe in Baton Rouge. Still haven't gotten any word on our apartment, but we are pretty sure it is totally gone, given that it was in Oak Harbor, which is in Slidell, right on the lake.

It's amazing how something like this sends you back to square one. We both had just graduated law school and was about to get my first paycheck from my new job. I had a nice office right next to the Hyatt building with all the windows blown out, great view of the Dome and the Arena, and was really enjoying my job. We had gotten our apartment set up nicely and were looking forward to really starting our lives together. Now, its back to the basics...where will we get money? How will I pay my bills with no money? How long will I be out of work? What will we do for transportation? Where will we live? It's just nuts.
Click to expand...
I feel your pain Winny, I really do, and I wish you and the Mrs. the best. But take consolation that you have your education and you will have the means to earn enough money to rebuild your life faster than the blue collar uneducated guy who may have nothing but the four walls surrouding him. How would you like to be a 60 year old guy with a family and what you had leveled. That was truly a lifetime to build, and now it's gone. In no way does someone else having it worse mean you have it better, it sucks big time for EVERYONE. May God be with you.

 
FBG RELIEF FUND?
Click to expand...
If this should fly, I would be willing to collect the donations via PayPal and distribute them accordingly. But someone else would need to do all the administrative work (keeping track of who donated and who the donees are).
 
Oh, talked to my father last night.  One of their friends has a mother and family living in New Orleans.  Evactuated to Baton Rouge with what they could fit in their car, and have now rented an apartment there.  No furniture... nothing, but they do have a roof over their heads.

PC, according to my friend, the Coast Guard said it's WORSE than what's being reported on TV.
Click to expand...
Jplvr, what is worse? The damage or the looting?
Click to expand...
Looting/Shooting
 
Someone explain this to me:

The mayof of NO said on Saturday that this is the big one and everyone should evacuate.  He also acknowledged that about 20% of the people there did not have personal transportation.  However, to my knowledge, there were no staging areas for evacuations before the storm hit.

Why?  Why not command every public transportation unit, school bus, police van and every other governmental operated transportation system to just start rounding up people and getting them out of the city then?
Click to expand...
The mayor made every effort to obtain mass transportation. Amtrack and Greyhound wouldn't send any trains or busses. Serioulsy.
Click to expand...
Why the F are our tax dollars propping up Amtrak anyway? Should their instituionalized welfare they collect from the feds mandate that they do their part in, I don't know, EXACTLY THIS SITUATION? I'm not saying drive a train into a flood, but Christ, you could have gotten in Sunday and saved a few thousand people. They should be called on the carpet for this one big time.
 
Jesus, and just to add to the misery, huge t-storm over Orleans/Jeff parish.

Link
Click to expand...
:hot: C'mon, God, havent these people had (and are going to have) enough suffering already?? Enough's enough, man.
Click to expand...
This is a dumb question.In a way could this help just in the limited sense that someone can stand there with an open container and catch some drinking water? Or is there too much crap in the air to even make the rain water ingestable?

 
Jesus, and just to add to the misery, huge t-storm over Orleans/Jeff parish.

Link
Click to expand...
:hot: C'mon, God, havent these people had (and are going to have) enough suffering already?? Enough's enough, man.
Click to expand...
This is a dumb question.In a way could this help just in the limited sense that someone can stand there with an open container and catch some drinking water?
Click to expand...
Hmmmmmmmmmm
 
I just wanted to add that when I visited new Orleans that it was about 20+ miles from the French Quarter to the airport...so the idea that these people can walk to safety is pretty ridiculous...they don't have the energy to walk a marathon to get out from where they are.

 
I just found out that my family members that live in Jefferson Parish evacuated to northern Mississippi....

Im glad they got out, but we havent heard from them since, and Im not sure what part of Mississippi they are in or if there was any major damage there...

At least theyre not in N.O.
Click to expand...
FWIW -- a number of my friends from Jeff and St Tammany parishes went to Tunica (imagine that). They are all ok, said that there was not much damage, and there are ALOT of New Orleanians there. Hopefully your family is among them or in another safe location.
Click to expand...
Well, my great aunt is a casino junkie, so that would make sense.... :) Thanks for the info and the kind words. I just wish they would call and let us know for sure that they are alright.
Click to expand...
Hang in there, not knowing is the worst part. I still have some friends from Thibadoux I have not heard from. Don't know if they evac'ed or not.Here's a quick story for you -- on Friday, a buddy of mine had driven to Wichita Falls, TX (about 650 miles from NOLA) to do a century bike ride on Saturday. After the ride, he heard the storm track had changed. He immediately headed back to evacuate his elderly parents from Lakeview. Got home early Sunday, threw some clothes together (figuring he'd be gone for a couple of days) and drove his parents to Houston (normally a 6 or 7 hour trip that took almost 15 hours). He hadn't slept for over 48 hours, with a 100 miles bike ride and over 2,000 miles in his car driving. Finally heard from him last night.
Click to expand...
:eek: Quite the conrast from my post-ride experience. Unreal.

 
I just wanted to add that when I visited new Orleans that it was about 20+ miles from the French Quarter to the airport...so the idea that these people can walk to safety is pretty ridiculous...they don't have the energy to walk a marathon to get out from where they are.
Click to expand...
Interesting you say that. I can only relate what I heard this morning on wwl 870 am. They were interviewing the emergency operations director for St Charles Parish (which for those of you who don't know, is west/upriver of the city). I'm paraphrasing here, but his comments went essentially like this: "We ran hundreds if not thousands of disaster scenarios over the years, and we never approached anything like this. We've had people walking from New Orleans along the river levees, a distance of anywhere from 30 to 40 miles. The stories these people are telling are incredible tales of survival. It shows 2 things: how bad it really is in the city, and how strong the will to live is for these people".Folks, I'm not making this up, nor embellishing. He said there were hundreds of people coming to them, simply looking for civilization. He concluded with a plea for help -- communications with the command center in Baton Rouge were sketchy at best and they were desperate.

 
:eek:

Quite the conrast from my post-ride experience. Unreal.
Click to expand...
You do HH100 ? My buddy said he went thru 75 miles in about 3:20, but cramped up and limped home in 5:05. Said the weather wasn't too bad this year.
 
Portion of an email from a friend down there:We are ok. No damage to the house. Didn't get power back until last night, but we had water. I can live without power, no water will take you down quick though.I have 6 family members (with 3 more on the way) living with me right now. There is nothing left of their homes. They lived in New Orleans and the surrounding areas. My Uncle in still stuck in New Orleans. We heard from him last night. Didn't know if he was alive until then. Another uncle is driving south as far as he can today to try and get him. My uncle in New Orleans said he was going to start walking today. He can't wait for rescuers anymore because he is out of drinking water.My church is taking in refugees. We had an estimated capacity of 250. Last night when I left the church we had in excess of 400 (not exactly sure how many because we were still performing a census). As I was pulling out of the parking lot another van load of people showed up. These people (for the most part) have nothing but the clothes on their back. We were feeding them 3 meals a day, but are having to cut back to 2 because we are running out of food. The red cross won't be able to help us for at least 1 week, maybe 2. We have 80 diabetics that haven't had insulin since Monday. We have children separated from their parents, spouses separated from each other, with no way to find out where their families are, or if they are even alive.All of the Red cross shelters in Baton Rouge are closed. They have reached maximum capacity. Some of the people in the RiverCenter in Baton Rouge WALKED all the way from New Orleans. I am having difficulty comprehending the magnitude of this disaster.

 
My wife says that the mayor of Nawlins is 100 miles outside the city. I told her she has to be mistaken. This may have been covered here already. Any info?And god bless.And circumstances aside, the NO mayor is no Rudy G. Chertoff on the other hand has been a calming influence . (IMO)

 
Last edited by a moderator:
My wife says that the mayor of Nawlins is 100 miles outside the city. I told her she has to be mistaken. This may have been covered here already. Any info?

And god bless.
Click to expand...
Rumors abound. Sounds like he is in the city from this:Mayor of beleaguered New Orleans stays cool in the crisis

10:56 AM CDT on Thursday, September 1, 2005

By ADAM NOSSITER

Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS — Anxious and frightened, the citizens had the mayor of New Orleans surrounded. They wanted reassurance, answers, a firm date when normal lives could be resumed.

Ray Nagin wouldn't give it to them. He listened calmly, not trying to escape the hotel corridor. But there was no sugarcoating.

"You need to listen very carefully," Nagin told them. "For the next two or three months, in this area, there will not be any commerce, at all. No electricity, no restaurants. This is the real deal. It's not living conditions."

Outside, it is sweltering chaos. A once-functioning American city is suddenly in a state of nature. But Nagin is calm, at least outwardly.

...

 
blog:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
Click to expand...
3. Dead bodies everywhere: convention center, down camp street, all over.

4. National Guard shoving water off the backs of trucks. They're just pushing it off without stopping, people don't even know it's there at first -- they drop it on the side in debris, there's no sign or distribution point -- people are scared to go near it at first, because the drop points are guarded by troops or federal agents with assault rifles who don't let people come near them, which scares people off. It is a mess. When people actually get to the water, they are in such a rush to get it that one family left their small child behind and forget about him until Sig carried him back to the family.

5. Lots of pics coming soon when Sig has time to update.

It's raining now and I guess that's a relief from the heat. It's hot as hell down there in the sun. Crime is absolutely rampant: rapes, murders, rape-murder combinations.
Click to expand...
:mellow:
 
calvalry arrived (same link)

1:28 pm The word is that in Jefferson Parish and Orleans, FEMA has "bugged out." They haven't brought supplies in.THE REAL MILITARY IS NOW FLOWING IN. National Guard is being replaced before our eyes. Watch the feed.Word is that the Marines are at 1515 Poydras where our OC4s are. I think we're coming back online in force shortly.
Click to expand...
 
FBG RELIEF FUND?
Click to expand...
If this should fly, I would be willing to collect the donations via PayPal and distribute them accordingly. But someone else would need to do all the administrative work (keeping track of who donated and who the donees are).
Click to expand...
Kee, I would be glad to do the accounting work. I evacuated for the hurricane, but have heard that my house is completely safe. I'm staying at an Extended Stay close to my parents in Ohio, have my laptop and wireless internet. I have lots of time available for at least a couple of weeks.
 
FBG RELIEF FUND?
Click to expand...
If this should fly, I would be willing to collect the donations via PayPal and distribute them accordingly. But someone else would need to do all the administrative work (keeping track of who donated and who the donees are).
Click to expand...
Kee, I would be glad to do the accounting work. I evacuated for the hurricane, but have heard that my house is completely safe. I'm staying at an Extended Stay close to my parents in Ohio, have my laptop and wireless internet. I have lots of time available for at least a couple of weeks.
Click to expand...
:thumbup: Glad to hear you and your house made it through safely!

 
Downtown Baton Rouge lawlessness seems to be dying down a bit. The extra police presence is helping.
Click to expand...
Thank god. My brother just called from there (he evac'd from NO Sunday) and said that he and his fiancee needed to get out due to the spillover of violence. I'm filling up some gas tanks for him here in B'ham while the getting's good. Hope he doesn't get carjacked trying to get out.
 
The President is talking now live with Former Presidents Clinton and Bush (his dad) beside him. Clinton and his dad are going to take lead in raising funds much like they did for the tsunami.

 
I've been watching this whole thing unfold since Monday via CNN/FoxNews. What's amazing to me is how unlike every other flood that happens the water isn't receding at all around New Orleans. It's just mind boggling and it's hard to fathom how long it's going to take to pump all that water back out of the area once the levees are fixed.It's just SO sad.My heart goes out to all of you affected.

 
What's amazing to me is how unlike every other flood that happens the water isn't receding at all around New Orleans. It's just mind boggling and it's hard to fathom how long it's going to take to pump all that water back out of the area once the levees are fixed.
Click to expand...
Usually you don't have this "bowl effect" like the do in New Orleans. You're right, though, that it will take a long time and a lot of work to pump the city dry again.
 
Just found out my wife's aunt and uncle made it out of NO and are on their way to Chicago. We hadn't heard from them until today. Sounds like they are moving in with Mother in law and will be there for quite some time.

 
FBG RELIEF FUND?
Click to expand...
If this should fly, I would be willing to collect the donations via PayPal and distribute them accordingly. But someone else would need to do all the administrative work (keeping track of who donated and who the donees are).
Click to expand...
Since I am not running any football pools this season I could help out. We would need to have a way to verify the money was going to people who will need it like Tipsy. I hate to say it but there are too many people in this world who might/will try to take advantage of the situation.

 
Just found out my wife's aunt and uncle made it out of NO and are on their way to Chicago. We hadn't heard from them until today. Sounds like they are moving in with Mother in law and will be there for quite some time.
Click to expand...
Actually, I just found out they are on a bus to Houston and then they are coming to Chicago.I wonder if they were at the Superdome? Should be interesting to hear their stories once they get into town. He mentioned their house is dry and was only a few blocks from being flooded.

 
I can't get over how bad Mississippi Gulf Coast got hit.I have a question for anyone who might know. Will they list the names of those who died in Mississippi? We still haven't heard from our client and if they post the names, I would like to know if she's on it (hopefully not).

 
5676. LSU Chancellor Message There have been confirmed reports of civil unrest in the Baton Rouge area this morning. These incidents appear to be confined to specific areas in the downtown Baton Rouge area and specific locations around the community. At this time, local law enforcement are reported to have the situation contained. To insure safety, we have instructed that all buildings on campus be locked and we ask that occupants remain indoors. We are confident in the security procedures of LSU Public Safety and these actions will permit their timely response to any incidents that may occur on our campus. This is a trying time for all of us in the affected areas and beyond. Our efforts now center on safety and recovery. We are primarily concerned with the safety and well being of the LSU community and we urge that safe choices be made. For those on campus who would feel more secure in their homes, we urge that you leave campus in an orderly fashion. Please be aware that these incidents of unrest in the community make travel an unknown risk at this time. Permitting time for the law enforcement personnel to work through these challenges will likely improve the security outlook in the near term. Above all else, think through the choices being considered to assure your safety. Chancellor Sean O’Keefe
Click to expand...
 
Okay, guys... had a chat with the higher-ups at my restaurant, and for once it's good to work for a faceless, shamelessly self-promoting, evil corporation.

I work at Kincaids in Redondo Beach, CA. It's part of a large group of restaurants owned by Restaurants Unlimited Incorporated - RUI. RUI owns Palomino, Clinkerdagger, Simon and Seaforts, etc.

At the very least, Kincaids is doing this, but I believe that the entire corporation will be doing it. Check here to find a location near you which is owned by RUI.

On September 27, RUI will be having a "Dining for America" night. All profits for the night will be donated to relief efforts in the South. All profits.

When we did this for September 11th, we raised millions of dollars. Same with the Tsunamis. Now it's time to send some money to the South.

I'm not asking you guys to go to New Orleans with a bucket and start bailing.

I'm not asking for you to even donate all of your money to FEMA.

Just go out to eat on September 27th at a restaurant that will be joining in. You get food at the normal price, your server will probably be working for no wage (we have the option, and all of us working in Redondo are taking it, of donating all wages to charity as well), and every dime that would go into the restaurant's pocket for profit goes to the cause.

Go out to eat on September 27th. Eat a lot. And order stuff that's high profit margin (at Kincaids, for instance, the Dinner Specials - particularly the fish - are the highest profit margin). It's all really good food, I promise.

 
:hot:
House Speaker: Rebuilding N.O. doesn't make senseThursday, 2:55 p.m.By Bill WalshWashington bureauWASHINGTON - House Speaker Dennis Hastert dropped a bombshell on flood-ravaged New Orleans on Thursday by suggesting that it isn’t sensible to rebuild the city."It doesn't make sense to me," Hastert told the Daily Herald in suburban Chicago in editions published today. "And it's a question that certainly we should ask."Hastert's comments came as Congress cut short its summer recess and raced back to Washington to take up an emergency aid package expected to be $10 billion or more. Details of the legislation are still emerging, but it is expected to target critical items such as buses to evacuate the city, reinforcing existing flood protection and providing food and shelter for a growing population of refugees.The Illinois Republican’s comments drew an immediate rebuke from Louisiana officials.“That’s like saying we should shut down Los Angeles because it’s built in an earthquake zone,” former Sen. John Breaux, D-La., said. “Or like saying that after the Great Chicago fire of 1871, the U.S. government should have just abandoned the city.”Hastert said that he supports an emergency bailout, but raised questions about a long-term rebuilding effort. As the most powerful voice in the Republican-controlled House, Hastert is in a position to block any legislation that he opposes."We help replace, we help relieve disaster," Hastert said. "But I think federal insurance and everything that goes along with it... we ought to take a second look at that."The speaker’s comments were in stark contrast to those delivered by President Bush during an appearance this morning on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”“I want the people of New Orleans to know that after rescuing them and stabilizing the situation, there will be plans in place to help this great city get back on its feet,” Bush said. “There is no doubt in my mind that New Orleans is going to rise up again as a great city.”Insurance industry executives estimated that claims from the storm could range up to $19 billion. Rebuilding the city, which is more than 80 percent submerged, could cost tens of billions of dollars more, experts projected.Hastert questioned the wisdom of rebuilding a city below sea level that will continue to be in the path of powerful hurricanes."You know we build Los Angeles and San Francisco on top of earthquake issures and they rebuild, too. Stubbornness," he said.Hastert wasn't the only one questioning the rebuilding of New Orleans. The Waterbury, Conn., Republican-American newspaper wrote an editorial Wednesday entitled, "Is New Orleans worth reclaiming?""Americans' hearts go out to the people in Katrina's path," it said. "But if the people of New Orleans and other low-lying areas insist on living in harm's way, they ought to accept responsibility for what happens to them and their property."
Click to expand...
 
:hot:

"Americans' hearts go out to the people in Katrina's path," it said. "But if the people of New Orleans and other low-lying areas insist on living in harm's way, they ought to accept responsibility for what happens to them and their property."
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
If someone said that to me now I'd punch them in the face.
 
Downtown Baton Rouge lawlessness seems to be dying down a bit. The extra police presence is helping.
Click to expand...
Thank god. My brother just called from there (he evac'd from NO Sunday) and said that he and his fiancee needed to get out due to the spillover of violence. I'm filling up some gas tanks for him here in B'ham while the getting's good. Hope he doesn't get carjacked trying to get out.
Click to expand...
I hope your brother makes it without incident.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top