Kevin Jones has a torn ACL (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Lions: Jones' knee injury 'pretty serious'

Lions coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged after Sunday's game that Kevin Jones' knee injury "doesn't look good."

"It's pretty serious," Marinelli confirmed. Jones will likely have tests taken early this week, but a major ligament tear at this point in the year would cost him a good amount of offseason activities. Marinelli should know more Monday. T.J. Duckett appears likely to start in Week 17 at Green Bay. Dec. 23 - 6:45 pm et - Rotoworld

Update:

Kevin Jones suffered a tear of the Anterior Cruciate Ligament (ACL), but it's uncertain whether it's partial or complete tear.

The Lions must wait for the swelling in his knee to subside, but it doesn't sound good. If Jones needs surgery, which sounds likely, he will miss another offseason after recovering from a Lisfranc fracture in his foot this year. His status for next training camp would in doubt and the Lions would have to find backfield competition again. Dec. 24 - 1:22 pm et

 

[lookatthepatterns]

Yeah I saw that. Hes just injury proned.

 

[Da Guru]

Lions: Jones' knee injury 'pretty serious' Lions coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged after Sunday's game that Kevin Jones' knee injury "doesn't look good.""It's pretty serious," Marinelli confirmed. Jones will likely have tests taken early this week, but a major ligament tear at this point in the year would cost him a good amount of offseason activities. Marinelli should know more Monday. T.J. Duckett appears likely to start in Week 17 at Green Bay. Dec. 23 - 6:45 pm et - Rotoworld

The FF season is over..plenty of time to rehab.

 

[JohnnyU]

Lions: Jones' knee injury 'pretty serious' Lions coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged after Sunday's game that Kevin Jones' knee injury "doesn't look good.""It's pretty serious," Marinelli confirmed. Jones will likely have tests taken early this week, but a major ligament tear at this point in the year would cost him a good amount of offseason activities. Marinelli should know more Monday. T.J. Duckett appears likely to start in Week 17 at Green Bay. Dec. 23 - 6:45 pm et - Rotoworld

The FF season is over..plenty of time to rehab.

Depending on how bad it is. If it's a "McGahee type of injury", then he may not be ready until mid 2008 season or later. Even if he is ready to play he might not be right until 2009.

 

[Da Guru]

Lions: Jones' knee injury 'pretty serious' Lions coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged after Sunday's game that Kevin Jones' knee injury "doesn't look good.""It's pretty serious," Marinelli confirmed. Jones will likely have tests taken early this week, but a major ligament tear at this point in the year would cost him a good amount of offseason activities. Marinelli should know more Monday. T.J. Duckett appears likely to start in Week 17 at Green Bay. Dec. 23 - 6:45 pm et - Rotoworld

The FF season is over..plenty of time to rehab.

Depending on how bad it is. If it's a "McGahee type of injury", then he may not be ready until mid 2008 season or later. Even if he is ready to play he might not be right until 2009.

Duckett is an UFA after the season so this is another slug the Lions will overpay to keep if Jones injury is serious.

 

[rascal]

Broncos can trade Pears and Young for Rodgers.

 

[Mene]

Lions: Jones' knee injury 'pretty serious'

Lions coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged after Sunday's game that Kevin Jones' knee injury "doesn't look good."

"It's pretty serious," Marinelli confirmed. Jones will likely have tests taken early this week, but a major ligament tear at this point in the year would cost him a good amount of offseason activities. Marinelli should know more Monday. T.J. Duckett appears likely to start in Week 17 at Green Bay. Dec. 23 - 6:45 pm et - Rotoworld

The FF season is over..plenty of time to rehab.

Depending on how bad it is. If it's a "McGahee type of injury", then he may not be ready until mid 2008 season or later. Even if he is ready to play he might not be right until 2009.

Duckett is an UFA after the season so this is another slug the Lions will overpay to keep if Jones injury is serious.

Bingo. As Lions fans, we've seen this all too often. Duckett will get some silly 3yr 16mil deal or something ridiculous like that and never play well for us again.

 

[cstu]

This could be the nail in the coffin for KJ's career as a starting NFL back. If it's an ACL then he likely won't be 100% until 2009 when he's 27. I don't think many teams are going to be interested in relying on him as their main back and that he'll spend the rest of his career in some type of RBBC.

 

[buck naked]

I think this is just a ploy to motivate um, Tatum Bell, for the last game.

 

[blenderfrog]

I think this is just a ploy to motivate um, Tatum Bell, for the last game.

Well played.

 

[Avery]

This could be the nail in the coffin for KJ's career as a starting NFL back. If it's an ACL then he likely won't be 100% until 2009 when he's 27. I don't think many teams are going to be interested in relying on him as their main back and that he'll spend the rest of his career in some type of RBBC.

You're getting way ahead of yourself here.Nothing to do but wait for the news.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Per the Detroit Free Press, Kevin Jones has at least a sprained MCL. He did walk off the field under his own power. I really don't think he would walk off like he did if he tore the ACL.

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Lions running back Kevin Jones suffered at least a sprained right medial collateral ligament against Kansas City and will undergo more testing today to determine the exact extent of the damage, a person familiar with the situation said Sunday night.

"It doesn't look good," coach Rod Marinelli said after the Lions' 25-20 victory. "I don't want to say something and be wrong. But he's going to get that thing looked at obviously (today) and let you know. But I think it's serious. I think it's pretty serious."

 

[JohnnyU]

Per the Detroit Free Press, Kevin Jones has at least a sprained MCL. He did walk off the field under his own power. I really don't think he would walk off like he did if he tore the ACL.

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Lions running back Kevin Jones suffered at least a sprained right medial collateral ligament against Kansas City and will undergo more testing today to determine the exact extent of the damage, a person familiar with the situation said Sunday night.

"It doesn't look good," coach Rod Marinelli said after the Lions' 25-20 victory. "I don't want to say something and be wrong. But he's going to get that thing looked at obviously (today) and let you know. But I think it's serious. I think it's pretty serious."

Players have continued to play on a tore ACL before having it tested, so walking off on their own power isn't a guarantee of a lesser injury. I sure hope it isn't serious though.

 

[rod0041]

I tore my ACL and LCL skiing... I skied down with them torn....... I'm sure KJ could walk off the field with a tear!

Per the Detroit Free Press, Kevin Jones has at least a sprained MCL. He did walk off the field under his own power. I really don't think he would walk off like he did if he tore the ACL.

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Lions running back Kevin Jones suffered at least a sprained right medial collateral ligament against Kansas City and will undergo more testing today to determine the exact extent of the damage, a person familiar with the situation said Sunday night.

"It doesn't look good," coach Rod Marinelli said after the Lions' 25-20 victory. "I don't want to say something and be wrong. But he's going to get that thing looked at obviously (today) and let you know. But I think it's serious. I think it's pretty serious."

Players have continued to play on a tore ACL before having it tested, so walking off on their own power isn't a guarantee of a lesser injury. I sure hope it isn't serious though.

 

[Bob Henry]

Per the Detroit Free Press, Kevin Jones has at least a sprained MCL. He did walk off the field under his own power. I really don't think he would walk off like he did if he tore the ACL.

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Lions running back Kevin Jones suffered at least a sprained right medial collateral ligament against Kansas City and will undergo more testing today to determine the exact extent of the damage, a person familiar with the situation said Sunday night.

"It doesn't look good," coach Rod Marinelli said after the Lions' 25-20 victory. "I don't want to say something and be wrong. But he's going to get that thing looked at obviously (today) and let you know. But I think it's serious. I think it's pretty serious."

Players have continued to play on a tore ACL before having it tested, so walking off on their own power isn't a guarantee of a lesser injury. I sure hope it isn't serious though.

Hope the best for KJ, but you're right. Olandis Gary and Edgerrin James both come to mind. IIRC, Gary played the rest of the game and Edge even attempted to play the next week before shutting it down.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

He wasn't looking all that good BEFORE the injury. I feel for the kid, but his talent has always been overrated IMO.

 

[Brutis]

He wasn't looking all that good BEFORE the injury. I feel for the kid, but his talent has always been overrated IMO.

His talent and how he is used in Martz's offense are two seperate issues imo.

 

[Gopher State]

I wonder if the Lions have any regrets not drafting A.P?

 

[Brutis]

I wonder if the Lions have any regrets not drafting A.P?

Martz would find a way to not get him the ball.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I wonder if the Lions have any regrets not drafting A.P?

It's easy to have regrets after seeing how it unfolds...but after seeing Charles Rogers have 2 broken collarbones, there was no chance of the Lions drafting Peterson.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I wonder if the Lions have any regrets not drafting A.P?

Martz would find a way to not get him the ball.

Actually, I don't know why I just laughed at that,...it's probably true.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Looks like KJ has some kind of ACL tear, Kowalski says they don't know if it's a full or partial tear.

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Kevin Jones might require surgery

by Tom Kowalski

Monday December 24, 2007, 12:59 PM

Running back Kevin Jones suffered an injury to the anterior cruciate ligament of his right knee and might require surgery. Jones suffered the injury late in the first half of Detroit's 25-20 victory over the Kansas Chiefs on Sunday.

Lions head coach Rod Marinelli said Monday that a final decision won't be made until the swelling goes down in Jones' knee. Marinelli also said that he doesn't know if Jones suffered a partial tear or a complete tear.

If Jones undergoes surgery to repair the ACL, he would likely miss the beginning of training camp next season but could be ready for the start of the regular season. Jones missed all of camp and preseason this season because he was recovering from the Lisfranc surgery he had on his left foot last December.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

More on the injury from the Detroit Free Press Lions beat writer.

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Lions' Jones has torn ACL

December 24, 2007

Lions running back Kevin Jones suffered a torn right anterior cruciate ligament Sunday against Kansas City.

Coach Rod Marinelli said Monday doctors would wait until the swelling subsided before determining whether to operate and how long Jones will be out. It appears he will miss most, if not all, of the off-season program.

The injury is a huge blow to Jones, who suffered a serious foot injury last December and worked hard all off-season to come back. He returned in the third game this season – ahead of many projections – but did not have many chances to carry the ball. He had only three games with 20 carries or more.

Marinelli said T.J. Duckett would be the Lions' starting running back Sunday in their season finale at Green Bay. Tatum Bell will be active for the first time since Oct. 7 at Washington.

 

[EdwardCat]

His career could be over. He's been nothing but a disappointment.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

His career could be over. He's been nothing but a disappointment.

I doubt that his career is over because of a torn ACL, even if it is fully torn (which isn't known yet). He is only 25 years old.

 

[JohnnyU]

His career could be over. He's been nothing but a disappointment.

Why in the world would you say that? How many ACL tears has Frank Gore had?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

His career could be over. He's been nothing but a disappointment.

Why in the world would you say that? How many ACL tears has Frank Gore had?

Not to mention the hundreds of players who have had this injury.

His Lis Franc injury was more of a concern, and not only did he come back from that, he did it much sooner than anyone thought.

 

[Da Guru]

His career could be over. He's been nothing but a disappointment.

Why in the world would you say that? How many ACL tears has Frank Gore had?

Gore has torn the ACL twice on one knee, and once on the other.

 

[Da Guru]

His career could be over. He's been nothing but a disappointment.

Why in the world would you say that? How many ACL tears has Frank Gore had?

ACL tears are like ingrown toenails nowadays.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

I think it depends on how severe his injury is. They are not sure it is a complete or a partial tear yet.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

What's the latest on Calhoun's knee injury? I've been looking for info since he was IRd but haven't found anything. If Jones weren't there I like Calhoun's potential to be a long term answer over Duckett or Bell.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

I think it depends on how severe his injury is. They are not sure it is a complete or a partial tear yet.

I seem to remember that ACLs don't heal themselves, therefore complete tear = partial tear. Either way, replacement surgery is the only option. I could be wrong here, though, so correct me.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

What's the latest on Calhoun's knee injury? I've been looking for info since he was IRd but haven't found anything. If Jones weren't there I like Calhoun's potential to be a long term answer over Duckett or Bell.

Calhoun has no chance of being the Lions starting RB. They just don't see him as a featured back, and I tend to agree.As for previous questions about who that could be, it really depends on the severity of his injury. Duckett is a free agent after this season. I also think a lot depends on what happens with Martz. There is a lot of speculation that he will be moving on after this season, which could dramatically change things. If he goes, you can be virtually guaranteed of more emphasis on the run. But for who it will be, it depends on how serious the injury is. To me, even if they keep Duckett, he would be nothing more than a short-term starter. If KJ's injury is really bad, I expect someone not on the roster to start. But right now, without knowing the severity of the injury, and also what will happen with Martz, it's impossible to know.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

I think it depends on how severe his injury is. They are not sure it is a complete or a partial tear yet.

I seem to remember that ACLs don't heal themselves, therefore complete tear = partial tear. Either way, replacement surgery is the only option. I could be wrong here, though, so correct me.

Well partial tear could equal no surgery and rehab while a complete tear obviously would need to be fixed if you play RB. The problem is obviously the time line. Doctors could tell him he needs to test it and if this week 4 he could wait until week 8 or nine, test it in a game and then go from there. Right now he's either gotta go through the whole process to be ready for next season or try to play with a partial tear. Despite the rehab being the suck (I tore my ACL) for an NFL RB I'm guessing you want the whole ligament. The less ligament the more give and it is weird not having one.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

I think it depends on how severe his injury is. They are not sure it is a complete or a partial tear yet.

I seem to remember that ACLs don't heal themselves, therefore complete tear = partial tear. Either way, replacement surgery is the only option. I could be wrong here, though, so correct me.

Well partial tear could equal no surgery and rehab while a complete tear obviously would need to be fixed if you play RB. The problem is obviously the time line. Doctors could tell him he needs to test it and if this week 4 he could wait until week 8 or nine, test it in a game and then go from there. Right now he's either gotta go through the whole process to be ready for next season or try to play with a partial tear. Dispite the rehab being the suck (I tore my ACL) for an NFL RB I'm guessing you want the whole ligament. The less ligament the more give and it is weird not having one.

Tore mine, too. No fun.

 

[moderated]

KJ's dynasty stock just plummeted.

He has a brittle body, i doubt any team is going to ever want to rely on him as their starter.

 

[Max Power]

Poor Jones. He was one of the few bright spots this season. The only good news is that TJ Duckett is playing the best football of his career. Bad news is that he isn't a Martz style RB.

Anyone know Duckett's contract status?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

He won't be at full strength for a while. Who's the guy to get?

No one. With Martz around, DET RB is a wasteland.

 

[JohnnyU]

KJ's dynasty stock just plummeted.He has a brittle body, i doubt any team is going to ever want to rely on him as their starter.

Again, how brittle is Fank Gore with 3 torn ACLs?

 

[Da Guru]

Poor Jones. He was one of the few bright spots this season. The only good news is that TJ Duckett is playing the best football of his career. Bad news is that he isn't a Martz style RB. Anyone know Duckett's contract status?

UFA after the season.Duckett is like Rod Dayne..when it is unxpected he will produce, when you are counting on him he is always hurt.Lions wil have to overpay another slug to keep him.

 

[Max Power]

Poor Jones. He was one of the few bright spots this season. The only good news is that TJ Duckett is playing the best football of his career. Bad news is that he isn't a Martz style RB. Anyone know Duckett's contract status?

UFA after the season.Duckett is like Rod Dayne..when it is unxpected he will produce, when you are counting on him he is always hurt.Lions wil have to overpay another slug to keep him.

I wouldn't mind Duckett coming to Chicago. A Benson/Duckett/AP rotation would be fun to watch.

 

[moderated]

KJ's dynasty stock just plummeted.He has a brittle body, i doubt any team is going to ever want to rely on him as their starter.

Again, how brittle is Fank Gore with 3 torn ACLs?

Gore is brittle and a huge risk in a dynasty league, but he also had his ACL injuries when he was extremely young when the body is most resilient.KJ had what is one of the worst injuries a RB can have...the dreaded Lis Franc, and now he's torn his ACL.I didn't say he's worthless, but if you don't see how his dynasty value took a HUGE hit then i don't know what to say. I doubt any experienced dynasty owner would have him in their top 20 RB's at this point, before the injury most had him in that range. That is taking a huge value hit anyway you look at it.

 

[gman8343]

KJ's dynasty stock just plummeted.He has a brittle body, i doubt any team is going to ever want to rely on him as their starter.

Again, how brittle is Fank Gore with 3 torn ACLs?

I'd have to agree with him being injury prone thus far in his career. He's never come close to playing a full season yet, and has now had two severe injuries. Gore is certainly an injury risk but hasn't really had anything significant in years.

 

[beto]

I wonder if the Lions have any regrets not drafting A.P?

It's easy to have regrets after seeing how it unfolds...but after seeing Charles Rogers have 2 broken collarbones, there was no chance of the Lions drafting Peterson.

Calvin was more of a freak than All Day.

 

[dudaman]

This could be the nail in the coffin for KJ's career as a starting NFL back. If it's an ACL then he likely won't be 100% until 2009 when he's 27. I don't think many teams are going to be interested in relying on him as their main back and that he'll spend the rest of his career in some type of RBBC.

Isn't 27 considered the "prime of a player's career"?

 

[treat88]

Pure speculation, but Michael Turner has another possible landing spot.

Not sure if it matters to anyone else.

 

[JohnnyU]

KJ's dynasty stock just plummeted.He has a brittle body, i doubt any team is going to ever want to rely on him as their starter.

Again, how brittle is Fank Gore with 3 torn ACLs?

I'd have to agree with him being injury prone thus far in his career. He's never come close to playing a full season yet, and has now had two severe injuries. Gore is certainly an injury risk but hasn't really had anything significant in years.

Gore has been healthy for the last 2 years I believe, so "in years" makes it sound like ions ago, but the fact is that if Gore can have 3 very serious injuries (2 of them close together), then Kevin Jones can certainly come back strong from his recent two injuries.

 

[moderated]

KJ's dynasty stock just plummeted.He has a brittle body, i doubt any team is going to ever want to rely on him as their starter.

Again, how brittle is Fank Gore with 3 torn ACLs?

I'd have to agree with him being injury prone thus far in his career. He's never come close to playing a full season yet, and has now had two severe injuries. Gore is certainly an injury risk but hasn't really had anything significant in years.

Gore has been healthy for the last 2 years I believe, so "in years" makes it sound like ions ago, but the fact is that if Gore can have 3 very serious injuries (2 of them close together), then Kevin Jones can certainly come back strong from his recent two injuries.

I've been a big KJ fan, but in the end he's not an ELITE player, he's an average to above average RB relative to other starting RB's in the NFL. Starting RB jobs aren't a guarantee to above average RB's who've had major injuries the past couple seasons.Do you think he's a lock to be a starting RB when he comes back? I'd say he'll be given a job to compete, but he's not going to be given anything and who knows how effective he'll be coming off an ACL injury. Also his Lis Franc was reported to be bothering him this season, so that issue isn't out of the way and can haunt players throughout their career.Average to Above Average RB's with major injury concerns just aren't valued very high in dynasty leagues. He lost a ton of value with this injury, that is all i'm saying.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

KJ's dynasty stock just plummeted.He has a brittle body, i doubt any team is going to ever want to rely on him as their starter.

Again, how brittle is Fank Gore with 3 torn ACLs?

I'd have to agree with him being injury prone thus far in his career. He's never come close to playing a full season yet, and has now had two severe injuries. Gore is certainly an injury risk but hasn't really had anything significant in years.

Gore has been healthy for the last 2 years I believe, so "in years" makes it sound like ions ago, but the fact is that if Gore can have 3 very serious injuries (2 of them close together), then Kevin Jones can certainly come back strong from his recent two injuries.

I could see this if he was lighting the world on fire before he got injured. Fact is, he looked bad. Folks are #####ing Martz didn't get him the ball, but the problem is Jones didn't so much with it when he got it. And that's with everyone playing Detropit for the pass. No one was stacking the line against Jones and he ends up averaging 3.8 yards/carry.Then you'll hear "he's a pounder, they need to feed him and wear down the defense". Problem with THAT is that he is much better in the 1st and 3rd than the 2nd and the 4th. He seems to get worn down more than the defense does. Maybe that's partially the injuries taking their toll.So now he has a torn ACL to top off his LisFranc. Just don't know that the odds are very good for a guy who was looking shaky to begin with coming back strong the next year after a late-season ACL tear.But there IS opportunity Detroit for fantasy RB production. Detroit RBs have scored a decent number of TDs this year despite the team's preference for passing (and despite Kevin Jones not being a very good short yardage back). Duckett seems to have managed fairly well playing in Detroit and to hear folks talk around here, he's a total bum. So how is it that a bum manages 5.9 YPC and the "stud" manages 3.8? Here's a guy with 30 1st down carries, and he averages 6.5 yards with them. Even if you take away his 53 yarder the other day (which isn't exactly legit), he's still averaging about 5 YPC on 1st - WAY better than Jones was managing.I got into it over in the dynasty ranking thread about Duckett and I was told Duckett was a turd and was worse than guys like Tatum Bell, Dom Rhodes, JJ Arrington, Jesse Chatman, Tony Hunt and Reuben Droughns.Washington was a debacle, but that's mostly because they brought him very late in the pre-season (i.e. no camp in a difficult offense) and they were expecting Portis to miss a bunch of time which he didn't end up missing. Then Betts, who knew the offense very well, looked pretty darn good himself at the time.I absolutely wouldn't go spend a ton to get Duckett, but I sure would rather have him at 26 than a lot of the scrubs some folks seem to prefer. I'd say if you can pick him up cheaply enough, go get him and hope for the best. The guy was a 1st round pick and he really hasn't played that badly throughout his career when he was given shots. IF he ends up in Detroit, and all he has to beat is Kevin Jones, there's a decent chance he'll get some fantasy points next year (and maybe the out years).