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Kevin Smith Injury (1 Viewer)
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Coach3K
Footballguy
I really don't get the hate.What is wrong with people posting their actual lineup decisions, and some of their thoughts/rationale, if it could help other Shark Pool readers who have the exact/similar decisions to make?Maybe someone hasn't considered an angle of why X would be a better play than Y...and isn't helping each other out part of why we come here?
gianmarco
Footballguy
You like to hear reasoning? Then I'm sure all of these posts I'm about to quote were incredibly helpful. This thread is about Kevin Smith's INJURY, not who you may or may not be starting him over. The ACF is for help with lineup decisions. It's not for asking who you should start and letting us know that you're up or down after the previous games. HTH.
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Fascinating and hard hitting discussion here. Incredibly helpful info related to Kevin Smith's INJURY. For those complaining about us complaining about a thread I don't care about, I DO care about the thread. I came here for injury update info and had to scroll through post after post after post of nonsense that is completely unrelated to his injury.
ETA---I couldn't even post all the nonsense because I went over the quote limit.
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Peeps need to relax, if you want strict injury news go to the gameday Kevin Smith Injury thread.
Pretty sure there is a Sunday thread with News only.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Sir Chadwick
Footballguy
I haven't been able to catch the game... is he hurt again or something?
gianmarco
Footballguy
Not sure, but SCT was up 42-0 heading into today and habsfan is playing with house money so I'm not sure it really matters.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
No. just a slow first half.Looks good coming out in the 2nd half.
no he was just sucking. He ripped off a few decent looking runs at the start of the 3rd qtr so hopefully a sign of things to come rest of the game.
Bruce Leroy
Footballguy
I started Smith over Chris Ivory. Not too bad of a decision.
mrip541
Footballguy
I started him over Spiller one league and over Hillis in another.
az_prof
Footballguy
Lexdizzile: Actually, I live in Oakland viewing area and their Run D has not been that bad the last half of the season. They got gashed by Denver, like most teams. Anyway, Kevin Smith was totally shut down today. And it wasn't his injury. The Oakland defense just didn't give him any holes.
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Organized Chaos
Footballguy
This and he was in a lot of the game picking up blitzers, plus he dropped a wide open pass in the last drive (that eventually won it for the lions)
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
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He will be much better next week while riding most people's benches (if they are still in their playoffs).
For me, next week ill have to decide b/w smith and spiller. I still think smith is a talent, and if i hear reports that his ankle is good to go for next week i will probably insert him again in my lineups in the 2 super bowls i am in
For me, next week ill have to decide b/w smith and spiller. I still think smith is a talent, and if i hear reports that his ankle is good to go for next week i will probably insert him again in my lineups in the 2 super bowls i am in
Yeah, I don't get that. I read something about him being in on a lot of blitz pickups, but seems like you use the screens/dump offs to stop the blitzes. Smith and then Morris/Williams when Smith got tweaked were averaging 9 receptions a game the last 4 weeks and today Smith is healthy start to finish and he gets 1? Especially, considering they were behind basically all game.Oh well, amazingly, I got lucky (first time all year I can say that) in the one league I have him starting and still alive so I didn't need him this week. Just glad he stayed healthy, so maybe next week his is completely 100%. Not sure if they kept him out of the passing routes to make sure he stayed healthy, but I would hope he gets more action next week.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Most teams wil be smart enough to devote more attention away from the LOS when playing the Lions. Oakland was playing the run on the way to the passer at the expense of coverage which was GREAT for Det WRs, but not so much for Smith. Oakland's D line is pretty nasty, and McClain was on top of his game the last 2 weeks (since shooting incident).
The Jerk
Footballguy
Is it possible that the natural grass surface, while maybe being more gentle on Smith's ankle, was a slight detriment to his production? I recall how sharp his cuts were on turf in Detroit and New Orleans -- perhaps TOO sharp. For those who saw the game, can you comment on what impact if any the natural turf of Oakland may have had on Smith's day?
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I don't think it had any impact. Smith was clearly not healthy enough to do much of anything.
SlevinKelevra
Footballguy
71/81 snaps for him last sunday
mrip541
Footballguy
This is why I'll probably be starting Smith in the Big Game this week even though I don't feel good about it at all.
The Jerk
Footballguy
I'm choosing from among Wells, F.Jones and K.Smith this week.
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There, I did it myself so the ever-worried proper forum police (relatives of Goodell?) don't need to try to suspend me.
For me, I see Wells and Smith as having higher ceilings, and Jones having a higher floor.
With these three, injury risk is everywhere. I mean, when Wells is your "safest" injury risk, you know you have problems.
I'm leaning toward starting Smith due to his potential for a very big day, even if it is low probability. I figure I could get a bust with any of them; might as well go with the guy who has recently been very explosive.
I can live with Smith at 85% or so. But I'm going to try to figure out if he's more like 65%. In that case, I don't think there really is an upside. Obviously, like everyone else, I'll be tuning in to see the daily reports. A lot of us are in this same boat, I suspect. How much credence do you give to upside? And how much upside is really there?
<< I know, keep us informed... >>
There, I did it myself so the ever-worried proper forum police (relatives of Goodell?) don't need to try to suspend me.
For me, I see Wells and Smith as having higher ceilings, and Jones having a higher floor.
With these three, injury risk is everywhere. I mean, when Wells is your "safest" injury risk, you know you have problems.
I'm leaning toward starting Smith due to his potential for a very big day, even if it is low probability. I figure I could get a bust with any of them; might as well go with the guy who has recently been very explosive.
I can live with Smith at 85% or so. But I'm going to try to figure out if he's more like 65%. In that case, I don't think there really is an upside. Obviously, like everyone else, I'll be tuning in to see the daily reports. A lot of us are in this same boat, I suspect. How much credence do you give to upside? And how much upside is really there?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Interesting post (to me anyway). Forum police can eat it. I too have Beanie and Smith, but my 2 other RB's are Rice and Gore. I was wondering if your league was PPR or standard. I don't see starting Smith in any scenario, but Beanie and Gore could be interchangable. Smith really let down a lot of owners last week. (I played him in one league as a flex over A. Hernandez and almost lost because of it). Is it just me, or does his floor seem a lot lower now, after all those 10 pt/quarter games? FBG's nailed it calling him an RB2 with RB1 upside and RB5 downside.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
And on one of his two non-snaps, the Detroit rb completely whiffed on the blitz and Stafford got sacked. No wonder they would rather have a hobbling Smith out there.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Chargers front 7 is not as good as Oakland, and Oakland was obviously not giving Calvin extra attention. Like I said earlier, the Raiders were playing the run on the way to the QB as a defensive gameplan. Everybody else has been beating the Lions lately by giving Calvin 2 or 3 defenders. If San Diego does this as well, I think Smith has a fine 12-20 points in standard or PPR respectively.
