Kid took air horn to the face (1 Viewer)

[shuke]

That doesn't mean they don't bear some responsibility for their part in presenting the opportunity for this to happen though, and I'm having trouble considering their share 0 given the facts of the situation.

But I totally disagree with this.

 

[DrJ]

And on another note, my younger daughter has a small scar on her foot. She got cut on a piece of glass in a lake, hospital sealed it with glue and didn't give any antibiotics so it got infected badly. Could have resulted in loss of limb eventually of course. I made them comp the bill and pay for my subsequent visits to my local doctor but didn't sue them. I don't mind small stuff and am not looking to cash in on people. Loss of hearing is serious #### though that could impact her life. Right now I'm of the opinion that they bear some responsibility in the event that's the outcome.

 

[Pipes]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

So why not use this as a learning experience for her? If she's as smart as you say she is she probably did learn a lesson and as her dad you should be driving that point home but instead it seems like you are making an excuse for her.

 

[shadyridr]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

You should sue the school for giving her the ability to read the "press here" on the package

 

[DrJ]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

You should sue the school for giving her the ability to read the "press here" on the package

I'll have to sue my stay at home wife for taking her to the library several times a week and spending countless hours helping her.

 

[shadyridr]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

You should sue the school for giving her the ability to read the "press here" on the package

I'll have to sue my stay at home wife for taking her to the library several times a week and spending countless hours helping her.

lol obviously your whole "looking for someone else to blame" angle is schtick at this point. Youve always seemed like a solid poster. Im glad your daughter is ok. I did a lot of dumb things when I was younger. Just chalk it up to a dumb mistake that just happened and move on. Dont sue anyone. Itll be a waste of time & $$

 

[The Commish]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

This isn't about how smart the kid is. As a matter of fact, the kid shouldn't even be part of the conversation IMO. She's 6. Did she know what an "air horn" was prior to this incident? I doubt it. No amount of smarts in the world would let me feel it ok to let my child out of my grasp or cart in a store where I knew dangerous things were. Perhaps I'm paranoid, I dunno, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm pretty sure if my son or daughter had done something like this when they were 8, I would have laughed uncontrollably at the look on their face when the horn went off.

Then again, I'm probably not the person to dispense parenting advice.

 

[DrJ]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

So why not use this as a learning experience for her? If she's as smart as you say she is she probably did learn a lesson and as her dad you should be driving that point home but instead it seems like you are making an excuse for her.

We definitely have, we told her she shouldn't be pressing buttons if she doesn't know what they do and all of that. I can't say I'm not going to let the kid wander a few feet though, she's at the age where parents are letting their kids ride around the block on their bikes. Some idiots even let them wander the neighborhood and give them cell phones. I'm going to do more damage being one of those freaky overbearing parents that doesn't let her learn a couple of lessons.Still, I think you guys have forgotten what it's like to be a kid. You see this button, it says press button, you push the button. On Tom and Jerry they blow air horns at each other without reprise. And there are versions that they have at kids parties that don't deafen you in a second flat. Her actions aren't really all that stupid from an 8 year old's perspective. Had I known there was an open air horn over there capable of that, I'd likely have notified them of it and payed closer attention. I don't expect that's something I'm supposed to be mindful of.

 

[DrJ]

I'm pretty sure if my son or daughter had done something like this when they were 8, I would have laughed uncontrollably at the look on their face when the horn went off. Then again, I'm probably not the person to dispense parenting advice.

It would be easier if she wasn't in tears, saying everything sounded weird, and shaking.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

And yet she couldn't read the keep away from children warning.No offense, bit your kid sounds about 4 yrs behond yhe curve.As for the hearing , theu always tell you it's temporary so the parents don't panic.They told my cousin it was temporary and he still had the ringong 5 yrs later

 

[Thorn]

Does your daughter run around pressing the buttons/turning the knobs on the stove?

Do those buttons say PRESS ME!I think not.

 

[DrJ]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

And yet she couldn't read the keep away from children warning.No offense, bit your kid sounds about 4 yrs behond yhe curve.As for the hearing , theu always tell you it's temporary so the parents don't panic.They told my cousin it was temporary and he still had the ringong 5 yrs later

You're a doctor too?

 

[Ignoramus]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

And yet she couldn't read the keep away from children warning.No offense, bit your kid sounds about 4 yrs behond yhe curve.As for the hearing , theu always tell you it's temporary so the parents don't panic.They told my cousin it was temporary and he still had the ringong 5 yrs later

Well, technically the doctor could still prove to be correct.

 

[DrJ]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

And yet she couldn't read the keep away from children warning.No offense, bit your kid sounds about 4 yrs behond yhe curve.As for the hearing , theu always tell you it's temporary so the parents don't panic.They told my cousin it was temporary and he still had the ringong 5 yrs later

Well, technically the doctor could still prove to be correct.

If not, my lawsuit might include additional parties.

 

[Ignoramus]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

And yet she couldn't read the keep away from children warning.No offense, bit your kid sounds about 4 yrs behond yhe curve.As for the hearing , theu always tell you it's temporary so the parents don't panic.They told my cousin it was temporary and he still had the ringong 5 yrs later

Well, technically the doctor could still prove to be correct.

If not, my lawsuit might include additional parties.

I was going to suggest this but I figured you already had a copy of his license... just in case.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I think the kid might have a lawsuit against the parents

 

[Marvin]

And yes, I am aware the situation might have been avoidable if we leashed our children. There's also other ways it could be avoidable though, so I'm not sure that's reasonable.

Yep. Leave your ill-mannered kids at home.

Yeahhh.....I had a more than a few beers yesterday afternoon. Sorry about the rudeness. I need to put a lock on my computer on days like that.

 

[shuke]

Im not 100% sure, but I am guessing that this thread do not go the way the OP intended.

By all counts, he has tons of fish jumping in the boat. I suspect it's gone just as he'd hoped.

Didn't really have any desires for how it would go, in all honesty. The situation happened as described, for the most part my responses have been serious.

Then whoever this is using the DrJ account isn't the real DrJ. You're not this dumb and I don't think you'd be one to have a problem controlling your kids from getting to the package in the first place.

The kid is reading at a 5th grade level and got an award in front of the entire school for being the most respectful citizen in the school. She had almost 3 times as many points as the kid under her. At my work party this weekend the popcorn vendor said she remembered us because my kid is the most polite and courteous the 6 years we've been threre. We do a good job, and I'm not seeing us having a problem controlling her. I see this as kind of a goofy situation. What upsets me about this is that there's a chance the damage is permanent and considering that high level of danger with the product, it seems unreasonable for the to make it available like they did.

And yet she couldn't read the keep away from children warning.No offense, bit your kid sounds about 4 yrs behond yhe curve.As for the hearing , theu always tell you it's temporary so the parents don't panic.They told my cousin it was temporary and he still had the ringong 5 yrs later

You're something else.

 

[bigbottom]

When is the doctor's appointment?

15 minutes.

I hope you get good news.

Note: I am seeing both sides of this.My son (when he was 2 1/4) went with me to Ace Hardware. They assembled a small bike and had it next to a small kid's outdoor bench, right next to the register. I was paying for my item, and in a flash, my kid jumped on the bike, slipped off just as fast and jammed his tooth back into the gums in an instant on the metal bench. He was screaming, blood was everywhere, and I just took him out of the place and drove him home. We did not even realize the tooth was jammed up (thought it was knocked out) until the dentist on the phone brought it up. The "surgery" to have it removed cost us a decent amount, but I chalked it up to "boys being boys"...I never once thought about suing. Now, had there been hunting knives lying around, I would have an issue with that (that is an extreme, I know). In my mind, I look at the horn as something inbetween...if it really was lying around, the company needs to do a better job of finding and removing the item...they likely have a ton of people there making sure SKUs match up and acting as greeters, they can make sure the floor is OK.The one thing that makes me wonder about DRJ's analysis is that he mentions the flimsyness of the packaging...that should not have anything to do with it...was the thing out of the package or not??? If it was in, and your kid could set it off, you need to be looking at the manufacturer, not the retailer. Also, 8 1/2 is getting old...I am not going to say your kid is dumb, but if she likes to explore and get into stuff, at some point, that needs to rest on you/her...and she is walking the line now.I hope she is OK and it just goes away...just my thoughts.

It was opened, and is still open as of half an hour ago. The flimsiness of the package doesn't change anything about that, but I do think it played a part in the package being open to begin with.

So at 10:15 am the appointment was "in 15 minutes," or IOW 10:30 am. But at 11:45 you're updating us on your wife's trip to investigate the packaging instead of your daughter's condition?

Correct, this all happened locally. And I'm not updating on my daughter's condition since people aren't interested in that.

It doesn't sound like you got good news.

 

[bigbottom]

In case you haven't noticed, there's quite a few replies suggesting my daughter deserves to be deaf for her and my stupidly.

How did the doctor's appointment go? What is her condition?

No damage to the eardrums. In all likelihood it's a temporary condition, but that's obviously not certain. She needs to avoid loud noises for a couple of weeks. Definitely great news.

Oh, just saw this. I'd figured you'd received bad news since your wife left the appointment to go do research for the potential lawsuit.

 

[Smack Tripper]

thinking an air horn toot would cause "permanent damage"

 

[Pick]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

 

[DrJ]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

My wife participates in all of her classes, so they actually do. You guys make a lot of assumptions based on a small amount of information.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Sue everyone...except me.

"The people you work with and handle, I will probably sue them as well."

NEVER gets old.I hope your kid is alright, J.

 

[SecondCity34]

Most importantly, I am glad that the initial prognosis is good for your daughter.

Additionally, any lawsuit here would be frivolous. Take responsibility as a parent and keep a better eye on your kids in the future. That's what you signed up for when you chose to have kids.

 

[hutchins929]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.

Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

 

[The Hardline]

This is an opportunity for you and your honor student to learn sign language.

:glasshalffull:

 

[Pick]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

My wife participates in all of her classes, so they actually do.

Ya until the teacher gives her something less than 100%, then there's hell to pay. This event seems to show that the first place you point the finger when stuff goes wrong is toward society.And yes that is an assumption based on limited info. But I've dealt with parents for years. Call it an educated guess if you want. I hope it's wrong.

 

[DrJ]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

 

[DrJ]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

My wife participates in all of her classes, so they actually do.

Ya until the teacher gives her something less than 100%, then there's hell to pay. This event seems to show that the first place you point the finger when stuff goes wrong is toward society.And yes that is an assumption based on limited info. But I've dealt with parents for years. Call it an educated guess if you want. I hope it's wrong.

What responsibility does the manufacturer and store have in ensuring the safe distribution of those products?

 

[Pick]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

My wife participates in all of her classes, so they actually do.

Ya until the teacher gives her something less than 100%, then there's @#!*% to pay. This event seems to show that the first place you point the finger when stuff goes wrong is toward society.And yes that is an assumption based on limited info. But I've dealt with parents for years. Call it an educated guess if you want. I hope it's wrong.

What responsibility does the manufacturer and store have in ensuring the safe distribution of those products?

Thanks for proving my point. "What responsibility does _______________________ (insert anyone/anything but yourself) have for the bad thing that happened to me/my kid/my dog/etc?"

 

[DrJ]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

My wife participates in all of her classes, so they actually do.

Ya until the teacher gives her something less than 100%, then there's @#!*% to pay. This event seems to show that the first place you point the finger when stuff goes wrong is toward society.And yes that is an assumption based on limited info. But I've dealt with parents for years. Call it an educated guess if you want. I hope it's wrong.

What responsibility does the manufacturer and store have in ensuring the safe distribution of those products?

Thanks for proving my point. "What responsibility does _______________________ (insert anyone/anything but yourself) have for the bad thing that happened to me/my kid/my dog/etc?"

I don't really think you ever had a point. But I am pretty sure I know your type - one of those "teachers can do no wrong, we're doing the lord's work and are oh so underpaid, it's all the kids and parents" deals. The main reason I don't trust the school to educate my kids and do take a lot of responsibility for that.

 

[Thorn]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

My wife participates in all of her classes, so they actually do.

Ya until the teacher gives her something less than 100%, then there's @#!*% to pay. This event seems to show that the first place you point the finger when stuff goes wrong is toward society.And yes that is an assumption based on limited info. But I've dealt with parents for years. Call it an educated guess if you want. I hope it's wrong.

What responsibility does the manufacturer and store have in ensuring the safe distribution of those products?

Thanks for proving my point. "What responsibility does _______________________ (insert anyone/anything but yourself) have for the bad thing that happened to me/my kid/my dog/etc?"

I would think when a company manufactures a product that can cause hearing loss if misused, they have a duty to package it in such a way that it doesn't resemble a plushy toy that squeals when kids "press here". The analogies to a stove or a knife are kind of ridiculous.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Sue everyone...except me.

"The people you work with and handle, I will probably sue them as well."

NEVER gets old.I hope your kid is alright, J.

 

[Pick]

I bet your daughter's teachers love you.

My wife participates in all of her classes, so they actually do.

Ya until the teacher gives her something less than 100%, then there's @#!*% to pay. This event seems to show that the first place you point the finger when stuff goes wrong is toward society.And yes that is an assumption based on limited info. But I've dealt with parents for years. Call it an educated guess if you want. I hope it's wrong.

What responsibility does the manufacturer and store have in ensuring the safe distribution of those products?

Thanks for proving my point. "What responsibility does _______________________ (insert anyone/anything but yourself) have for the bad thing that happened to me/my kid/my dog/etc?"

I don't really think you ever had a point. But I am pretty sure I know your type - one of those "teachers can do no wrong, we're doing the lord's work and are oh so underpaid, it's all the kids and parents" deals. The main reason I don't trust the school to educate my kids and do take a lot of responsibility for that.

You are free to assume whatever you want. But you have even less information to go off of than I was using.If you were to go to a similar store in the future under similar circumstances would you change anything?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

I'm confused. Did the horn not work the way it was supposed to?I was under the impression that the horn worked as designed, and the injury was caused by user error.

 

[Exit 1]

Most importantly, I am glad that the initial prognosis is good for your daughter.Additionally, any lawsuit here would be frivolous. Take responsibility as a parent and keep a better eye on your kids in the future. That's what you signed up for when you chose to have kids.

This.....times 5 billion.

 

[Guest]

I will say, I don't quite understand the feedback entirely. I dont see it as unreasonable to let a child of that age wander just a couple of feet while still well within your sight. I wouldn't have had a problem in their toy section, and I don't see how there should be an expectation that there's dangerous items that are open in the aisle I was in. I'm having a hard time characterizing what she did as grabbing something off of the shelf, she saw an item that said "press button" like many kids toys also indicate and she decided to press it. It's also a store that goes out of their way to attract kids which is why my children had liked going there previous to this incident.

It's not unreasonable. You just have to understand the potential problems with doing so. If I'm in a place like Bass Pro Shop (for example), there's not a chance I let my kid out of the cart (or free from holding my hand) because I know that there is the potential for problems if I do.

Really? For an 8 1/2 year old?

 

[Thorn]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

I'm confused. Did the horn not work the way it was supposed to?I was under the impression that the horn worked as designed, and the injury was caused by user error.

Do you think a product that can cause serious personal injury when improperly used ought to be packaged in such a way that a user could try it out right off the shelf without having to even remove it from its package?

 

[DrJ]

Alright, got a chance to see the video. As I stated, the packaging was open, but my wife was able to easily open and close the packaging with 2 fingers. In addition to the "Push Button" that is displayed on the horn, it's the prominent label on the packaging itself. Just doesn't seem appropriate for this sort of product.

 

[Borat]

My guess is that DrJ is well aware that this is his family's fault, and he feels terrible about what happened to his kid. So he figures that if he can sue (and win), then it will pass the blame (and the guilt) onto someone else, and he'll feel validated and guilt-free by that.

It's not so much about the money; it's about DrJ's need to be reassured that he is not a terrible parent.

 

[Neil Armstrong]

my kid almost ran into traffic once. i was there to stop him.

 

[DrJ]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

I'm confused. Did the horn not work the way it was supposed to?I was under the impression that the horn worked as designed, and the injury was caused by user error.

Do you think a product that can cause serious personal injury when improperly used ought to be packaged in such a way that a user could try it out right off the shelf without having to even remove it from its package?

So far I haven't seen a reasonable defense of their packaging of the product. The simple explanation is that there isn't one.

 

[Exit 1]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

I'm confused. Did the horn not work the way it was supposed to?I was under the impression that the horn worked as designed, and the injury was caused by user error.

Do you think a product that can cause serious personal injury when improperly used ought to be packaged in such a way that a user could try it out right off the shelf without having to even remove it from its package?

So far I haven't seen a reasonable defense of their packaging of the product. The simple explanation is that there isn't one.

Jesus Christ, dude.You messed up as a parent by not watching your kid and not advising him on being careful. Your kid will be okay. Just let it go.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

 

[DrJ]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

I'm confused. Did the horn not work the way it was supposed to?I was under the impression that the horn worked as designed, and the injury was caused by user error.

Do you think a product that can cause serious personal injury when improperly used ought to be packaged in such a way that a user could try it out right off the shelf without having to even remove it from its package?

So far I haven't seen a reasonable defense of their packaging of the product. The simple explanation is that there isn't one.

Jesus Christ, dude.You messed up as a parent by not watching your kid and not advising him on being careful. Your kid will be okay. Just let it go.

So...nuthin?

 

[shadyridr]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

I'm confused. Did the horn not work the way it was supposed to?I was under the impression that the horn worked as designed, and the injury was caused by user error.

Do you think a product that can cause serious personal injury when improperly used ought to be packaged in such a way that a user could try it out right off the shelf without having to even remove it from its package?

So far I haven't seen a reasonable defense of their packaging of the product. The simple explanation is that there isn't one.

Jesus Christ, dude.You messed up as a parent by not watching your kid and not advising him on being careful. Your kid will be okay. Just let it go.

So...nuthin?

perhaps the manufacturer supports Dwarinism

 

[The Commish]

I will say, I don't quite understand the feedback entirely. I dont see it as unreasonable to let a child of that age wander just a couple of feet while still well within your sight. I wouldn't have had a problem in their toy section, and I don't see how there should be an expectation that there's dangerous items that are open in the aisle I was in. I'm having a hard time characterizing what she did as grabbing something off of the shelf, she saw an item that said "press button" like many kids toys also indicate and she decided to press it. It's also a store that goes out of their way to attract kids which is why my children had liked going there previous to this incident.

It's not unreasonable. You just have to understand the potential problems with doing so. If I'm in a place like Bass Pro Shop (for example), there's not a chance I let my kid out of the cart (or free from holding my hand) because I know that there is the potential for problems if I do.

Really? For an 8 1/2 year old?

In a store where I know there are things that could hurt them? Absolutely. Again, that might be paranoid or whatever, but I don't see the good that can come of my kid wandering around isles with hooks, knives, air horns apparently. He doesn't know about those things. How dose he know they can hurt him?

 

[The Commish]

Maybe you should give her a trophy for outstanding pushing of a button.Just curious but where do you put yourself in the list of people to blame here?

Somewhere below the store/manufacturer who were somewhat negligent in the handling and distribution of the product, isn't that relatively clear?

I'm confused. Did the horn not work the way it was supposed to?I was under the impression that the horn worked as designed, and the injury was caused by user error.

Do you think a product that can cause serious personal injury when improperly used ought to be packaged in such a way that a user could try it out right off the shelf without having to even remove it from its package?

So far I haven't seen a reasonable defense of their packaging of the product. The simple explanation is that there isn't one.

Is this a horn targeted to kids? In other words, a horn for kids that packs an adult sound? If not, what more explanation do you need than it's targeted for an adult who understands what an air horn is and not a child??