Kregg Lumpkin to get more PT (1 Viewer)

[Tybeeman]

Did he even see the field last night?

Don't see him in the box score

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Full blown committee I tell you...Grant 13 carriesJackson 3 carriesLumpkin 0 carries

Now that the hamstring era is over, Grant owners can begin worrying about the next biggest issue: bad playcalling.

 

[sho nuff]

Full blown committee I tell you...Grant 13 carriesJackson 3 carriesLumpkin 0 carries

Now that the hamstring era is over, Grant owners can begin worrying about the next biggest issue: bad playcalling.

Yeah...worry about GB abandoning the run way too early.

 

[Aaronstory]

Did he even see the field last night?

Don't see him in the box score

He lined up as a fullback a few times, but never at halfback.

 

[footballgeek]

 

[DrJamesAndrews Fan]

Still has Hammy issues, sat out practice yesterday. Nothing to see here.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Lumpkin looks good enough to force his way committee right now. Sorry Ryan Grant owners.

1 carry, 3 catches in one game and he is forcing a committee?

Grant is just not producing anything on his own. He's an excellent RB when the defense is spread thin by 4 and 5 wide sets and the OL gives him lanes between the tackles. He just picks a lane and runs his butt off, a similar running style to Darren McFadden. This year, when the interior offensive line hasn't been opening holes, and the team hasn't been playing with leads nearly as often, Grant has looked like a mediocre back. He has little to no elusiveness and doesn't seem to be very patient. He's also not a good receiver out of the backfieldIn the little action Lumpkin has gotten, he's shown a similar running style, but he's more compact and thicker than Grant, so he might get more when the lanes aren't as wide. I think his initial burst and decisiveness make him as good or better than Jackson. The coaches drool all over Lumpkin every time they talk about him, the same way they did about Grant last year. The week Wynn scored two TDs last year, Grant only got one touch, but it was a good one, and the coaches comments showed that they took notice:

It's questionable how much the Packers will run against the Vikings and their third-ranked rush defense Sunday, but Grant is the kind of slasher who might be able to find a hole or two. He's at least as good as Wynn as a receiver and probably better, so Bennett said the Packers would have no hesitation starting him.

"Oh yeah, certainly," Bennett said. "Every time the kid gets an opportunity he does a good job. He's making the most of his opportunity."

Grant had five touches on the year in three games when Bennett said that.What has Bennett (and McCarthy) said about Lumpkin?

“He can perform in all the situations,” Bennett said. “He does a good job with the pass protection, the run game obviously and he has good hands out of the backfield. This kid is coming on. Every time he’s gotten an opportunity, he’s made the most of it.”

Though McCarthy typically does not discuss playing-time specifics, he did not hesitate when asked if Lumpkin had earned more opportunities.

“Absolutely,” McCarthy said. “I can’t say enough about him. I feel like I say the same thing every time you ask about Kregg Lumpkin, but he has taken advantage of every opportunity he has been given here. He had a plus performance in the opportunities he had. He’s physical. He was involved in some special-teams snaps that he was physical. There are some technical things that he can learn from, and he’ll improve on. I definitely felt he improved on an individual basis, and he contributed, and I feel very comfortable going with all three running backs.”

 

[sho nuff]

Full blown RBBC though right?

Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?

Jackson?

Grant?

 

[I Love Your Fantasy Team]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

sho nuff Ryan GrantWe get it, man.

 

[sho nuff]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

sho nuff Ryan GrantWe get it, man.

Pointing out facts mean I love the guy?Jackson had one carry against Tampa. Lumpkin had 0.Im trying to figure out how anyone can even try to defend that this is a full blown RBBC?But keep trying to bash me for it. I love it.Heck...Lumpkin has 1 carry in his career and he is supposedly pushing it into an RBBC.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

 

[sho nuff]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

Grant has been banged up too...yet he is still getting the carries.Jackson has been fine and had 1 carry. 1. 2 receptions...and could have had another if he had not decided to give it to Tampa instead.If Rodgers cannot go, I expect Jackson to get some more carries as they will try to run much more and may not want to push Grant that much.That said...Grant will still get around 20 carries if they can...and Jackson probably won't break the 10 mark with Lumpkin maybe adding a carry or two.This is hardly going to be a full blown RBBC and has not shown to be now several weeks after the prediction was made.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

Grant has been banged up too...yet he is still getting the carries.

Despite the fact he isn't producing.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

sho nuff Ted ThompsonWe get it, man.

Fixed

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

Grant has been banged up too...yet he is still getting the carries.Jackson has been fine and had 1 carry. 1. 2 receptions...and could have had another if he had not decided to give it to Tampa instead.If Rodgers cannot go, I expect Jackson to get some more carries as they will try to run much more and may not want to push Grant that much.That said...Grant will still get around 20 carries if they can...and Jackson probably won't break the 10 mark with Lumpkin maybe adding a carry or two.This is hardly going to be a full blown RBBC and has not shown to be now several weeks after the prediction was made.

It took until week 8 for the Pack to give Grant a shot to start last year even though they were talking him up after week 2. Don't be so quick to close the door on changes in the backfield just because it hasn't happened in the first four games.

 

[sho nuff]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

Grant has been banged up too...yet he is still getting the carries.Jackson has been fine and had 1 carry. 1. 2 receptions...and could have had another if he had not decided to give it to Tampa instead.If Rodgers cannot go, I expect Jackson to get some more carries as they will try to run much more and may not want to push Grant that much.That said...Grant will still get around 20 carries if they can...and Jackson probably won't break the 10 mark with Lumpkin maybe adding a carry or two.This is hardly going to be a full blown RBBC and has not shown to be now several weeks after the prediction was made.

It took until week 8 for the Pack to give Grant a shot to start last year even though they were talking him up after week 2. Don't be so quick to close the door on changes in the backfield just because it hasn't happened in the first four games.

He also came to the team late and had to work his way up.This is Jackson's 2nd year.Lumpy has been working since camp.Im not saying it will never be a RBBC if Grant continues this.But so far, nothing is pointing to that as some have tried to claim.In fact...it has trended exactly opposite to Grant being the complete feature back so far.

 

[compone]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

Grant has been banged up too...yet he is still getting the carries.Jackson has been fine and had 1 carry. 1. 2 receptions...and could have had another if he had not decided to give it to Tampa instead.If Rodgers cannot go, I expect Jackson to get some more carries as they will try to run much more and may not want to push Grant that much.That said...Grant will still get around 20 carries if they can...and Jackson probably won't break the 10 mark with Lumpkin maybe adding a carry or two.This is hardly going to be a full blown RBBC and has not shown to be now several weeks after the prediction was made.

It took until week 8 for the Pack to give Grant a shot to start last year even though they were talking him up after week 2. Don't be so quick to close the door on changes in the backfield just because it hasn't happened in the first four games.

GB is NOT a RBBC. Lumpkin & Jackson are both terrible. Honestly, they've ALL looked terrible. And most of the stats that Lumpkin & Jackson have been situational stats. 3rd and 13, rushing for 7 yards looks good on paper, but useless in the long run. Grant has the BIG contract. It's like when Priest Holmes was in Baltimore and playing for $500K and Jamal Lewis was playing for $5 million. They're going to use Grant either way and Jackson & Lumpkin can't stay healthy either.Blame the OL not any of the players, but they have ALL been real bad. I'm not even sure Lumpkin and/or Jackson is 100% healthy either.Grant is back to full strength.

 

[sho nuff]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

Grant has been banged up too...yet he is still getting the carries.Jackson has been fine and had 1 carry. 1. 2 receptions...and could have had another if he had not decided to give it to Tampa instead.If Rodgers cannot go, I expect Jackson to get some more carries as they will try to run much more and may not want to push Grant that much.That said...Grant will still get around 20 carries if they can...and Jackson probably won't break the 10 mark with Lumpkin maybe adding a carry or two.This is hardly going to be a full blown RBBC and has not shown to be now several weeks after the prediction was made.

It took until week 8 for the Pack to give Grant a shot to start last year even though they were talking him up after week 2. Don't be so quick to close the door on changes in the backfield just because it hasn't happened in the first four games.

GB is NOT a RBBC. Lumpkin & Jackson are both terrible. Honestly, they've ALL looked terrible. And most of the stats that Lumpkin & Jackson have been situational stats. 3rd and 13, rushing for 7 yards looks good on paper, but useless in the long run. Grant has the BIG contract. It's like when Priest Holmes was in Baltimore and playing for $500K and Jamal Lewis was playing for $5 million. They're going to use Grant either way and Jackson & Lumpkin can't stay healthy either.Blame the OL not any of the players, but they have ALL been real bad. I'm not even sure Lumpkin and/or Jackson is 100% healthy either.Grant is back to full strength.

His contract is not all that BIG.Up to 30 million sounds great.But his base pay for 2008 is $750,000, he got a $3mil signing bonus. Gets another bonus of $500,000 at the end of the year I think.Everything else for this year is on performance. $1mil bonus for 1000 yards rushing. $4mil for 1500 yards rushing. But those would be 2009 bonuses.Now...some could buy into the old tinfoil hat theory that they won't run him as much because they don't want to pay him. But I don't think McCarthy cares how much Grant will get paid if he is running that well all year.And you have to blame Grant some too.

 

[Scooby1974]

Full blown RBBC though right?Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?Jackson?Grant?

In week 2, Grant got 15 touches, Jackson 8, and Lumpkin 4.I think when all three are healthy (Lumpkin's been banged up). You're going to see a split along those lines. Looks like a committee to me.Grant just isn't THAT much better than Jackson and Lumpkin on this version of the Packers. If Rodgers really can't go, it gets even worse. Green Bay likes what they have in all three RBs, and they'll use all three.What has Grant done to show that he deserves to be the clear featured back this year?

Grant has been banged up too...yet he is still getting the carries.Jackson has been fine and had 1 carry. 1. 2 receptions...and could have had another if he had not decided to give it to Tampa instead.If Rodgers cannot go, I expect Jackson to get some more carries as they will try to run much more and may not want to push Grant that much.That said...Grant will still get around 20 carries if they can...and Jackson probably won't break the 10 mark with Lumpkin maybe adding a carry or two.This is hardly going to be a full blown RBBC and has not shown to be now several weeks after the prediction was made.

It took until week 8 for the Pack to give Grant a shot to start last year even though they were talking him up after week 2. Don't be so quick to close the door on changes in the backfield just because it hasn't happened in the first four games.

He also came to the team late and had to work his way up.This is Jackson's 2nd year.Lumpy has been working since camp.Im not saying it will never be a RBBC if Grant continues this.But so far, nothing is pointing to that as some have tried to claim.In fact...it has trended exactly opposite to Grant being the complete feature back so far.

The trend may be to keep it the same...but it's broke, Grant isn't producing like he was expected to. I see it being a similar situation to last year when BJax was starting out, line struggled to make room, he got hurt, line seemed to put things together and enter a healthy Grant. I don't know that there is much GB can do to fix this right now however.

 

[sho nuff]

The trend may be to keep it the same...but it's broke, Grant isn't producing like he was expected to. I see it being a similar situation to last year when BJax was starting out, line struggled to make room, he got hurt, line seemed to put things together and enter a healthy Grant. I don't know that there is much GB can do to fix this right now however.

I think the difference is, they have seen what Grant can do. The only thing they knew about Jackson was his limited time in college even.The line had not put anything together really before Grant entered.

 

[Aaronstory]

Full blown RBBC though right?

Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?

Jackson?

Grant?

sho nuff Ryan GrantWe get it, man.

Pointing out facts mean I love the guy?Jackson had one carry against Tampa. Lumpkin had 0.

Im trying to figure out how anyone can even try to defend that this is a full blown RBBC?

But keep trying to bash me for it. I love it.

Heck...Lumpkin has 1 carry in his career and he is supposedly pushing it into an RBBC.

Not bashing - but do love the fact that your defense is that you are 'pointing out facts' while choosing to omit the fact that Lumpkin was and is still injured and not practicing.

 

[sho nuff]

Full blown RBBC though right?

Lumpkin has gotten how many carries?

Jackson?

Grant?

sho nuff Ryan GrantWe get it, man.

Pointing out facts mean I love the guy?Jackson had one carry against Tampa. Lumpkin had 0.

Im trying to figure out how anyone can even try to defend that this is a full blown RBBC?

But keep trying to bash me for it. I love it.

Heck...Lumpkin has 1 carry in his career and he is supposedly pushing it into an RBBC.

Not bashing - but do love the fact that your defense is that you are 'pointing out facts' while choosing to omit the fact that Lumpkin was and is still injured and not practicing.

And Grant has been practicing all year fully?I agree, that could contribute to his 0 carries this past week.

But he has 1 carry all year long and people are going off that one carry to say he will push for RBBC.

Jackson has been healthy and not cut any into Grant's carries.

Look, I like Lumpy...I said on at least one other board that I hoped they kept him over Wynn, Morency and Herron by the 3rd preseason game.

I just liked how hard the kid ran and was out there actually pushing for everything.

That said, Grant has shown what he can do, I don't think that much has changed from last year...but several things have to happen...including Grant not fumbling, hitting his holes...and the line giving him some lanes and time to find them before getting hit in the backfield so often.

Look at how they practiced this week...Clifton was out there in pads even...as he has been bad this year as well (something like 5 or 6 penalties on him already).

Though, I was told by one fan that the line has been fine for the most part.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

The trend may be to keep it the same...but it's broke, Grant isn't producing like he was expected to. I see it being a similar situation to last year when BJax was starting out, line struggled to make room, he got hurt, line seemed to put things together and enter a healthy Grant. I don't know that there is much GB can do to fix this right now however.

I think the difference is, they have seen what Grant can do. The only thing they knew about Jackson was his limited time in college even.The line had not put anything together really before Grant entered.

Grant rushed for only 800 more yards than Jackson in college and had 18 rushing TDs to Jacksons 14. Jackson touched the ball over 200 times his senior year and had 10 TDs.

 

[Raider Nation]

I picked him up and dumped him over a 36 hour span. I think that's a record or something.

 

[sho nuff]

The trend may be to keep it the same...but it's broke, Grant isn't producing like he was expected to. I see it being a similar situation to last year when BJax was starting out, line struggled to make room, he got hurt, line seemed to put things together and enter a healthy Grant. I don't know that there is much GB can do to fix this right now however.

I think the difference is, they have seen what Grant can do. The only thing they knew about Jackson was his limited time in college even.The line had not put anything together really before Grant entered.

Grant rushed for only 800 more yards than Jackson in college and had 18 rushing TDs to Jacksons 14. Jackson touched the ball over 200 times his senior year and had 10 TDs.

Ummm...confused?Grant showed last year what he can do.Jackson going into last year, had not shown anything but what he did in limited time in college.That is the difference between Grant getting more opportunity this year than Jackson got last year.Its not that hard to understand.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

The trend may be to keep it the same...but it's broke, Grant isn't producing like he was expected to. I see it being a similar situation to last year when BJax was starting out, line struggled to make room, he got hurt, line seemed to put things together and enter a healthy Grant. I don't know that there is much GB can do to fix this right now however.

I think the difference is, they have seen what Grant can do. The only thing they knew about Jackson was his limited time in college even.The line had not put anything together really before Grant entered.

Grant rushed for only 800 more yards than Jackson in college and had 18 rushing TDs to Jacksons 14. Jackson touched the ball over 200 times his senior year and had 10 TDs.

Ummm...confused?Grant showed last year what he can do.

Jackson going into last year, had not shown anything but what he did in limited time in college.

That is the difference between Grant getting more opportunity this year than Jackson got last year.

Its not that hard to understand.

But you used present tense for Grant and past tense for Jackson. Not sure why you wrote it like that.They have seen what Grant can do and they have seen what Jackson can do since they are both in their second seasons with the Packers. I think the Packers know exactly what they have with both backs.

 

[sho nuff]

The trend may be to keep it the same...but it's broke, Grant isn't producing like he was expected to. I see it being a similar situation to last year when BJax was starting out, line struggled to make room, he got hurt, line seemed to put things together and enter a healthy Grant. I don't know that there is much GB can do to fix this right now however.

I think the difference is, they have seen what Grant can do. The only thing they knew about Jackson was his limited time in college even.The line had not put anything together really before Grant entered.

Grant rushed for only 800 more yards than Jackson in college and had 18 rushing TDs to Jacksons 14. Jackson touched the ball over 200 times his senior year and had 10 TDs.

Ummm...confused?Grant showed last year what he can do.

Jackson going into last year, had not shown anything but what he did in limited time in college.

That is the difference between Grant getting more opportunity this year than Jackson got last year.

Its not that hard to understand.

But you used present tense for Grant and past tense for Jackson. Not sure why you wrote it like that.They have seen what Grant can do and they have seen what Jackson can do since they are both in their second seasons with the Packers. I think the Packers know exactly what they have with both backs.

So...because I said "have seen" rather than "had seen" you are going to nit pick?It was obvious I was talking about they knew because of what Grant did last season...that is why they are giving him more leeway with it...rather than last year with Grant who was not given as much leeway because they knew nothing about him other than college (oh, and he got hurt which is why he lost his job in the first place anyway).

 

[footballgeek]

RB Kregg Lumpkin practiced fully on Thursday.

So is he ready to take over yet ?

 

[Restricted]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/11/...out-for-season/

PACKERS ACTIVATE DESHAWN WYNN, LUMPKIN OUT FOR SEASON

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Interesting move here if it's true, just when it seemed like Lumpkin was going to get back into the mix. I was very impressed with Wynn in his brief time with GB. Am I crazy for thinking Wynn could be a major dynasty sleeper before the season is over with Grant's struggles?

 

[Interseptopus]

Everyone's so quick to write off Ryan Grant... the guy really didn't play in any preseason games. So weeks 1-4 were his "preseason." Not to mention he's battled a hamstring injury. Last week was his first week actually healthy and after a couple games to shake the rust off. I'm just as frustrated as the next Grant owner/Packer fan, but give the guy some time. In 8 weeks he was a top 10 RB last year. The hourglass isn't empty on him yet

 

[Thumper]

Everyone's so quick to write off Ryan Grant... the guy really didn't play in any preseason games. So weeks 1-4 were his "preseason." Not to mention he's battled a hamstring injury. Last week was his first week actually healthy and after a couple games to shake the rust off. I'm just as frustrated as the next Grant owner/Packer fan, but give the guy some time. In 8 weeks he was a top 10 RB last year. The hourglass isn't empty on him yet

Is Wynn or Jackson the choice here?

 

[Interseptopus]

Everyone's so quick to write off Ryan Grant... the guy really didn't play in any preseason games. So weeks 1-4 were his "preseason." Not to mention he's battled a hamstring injury. Last week was his first week actually healthy and after a couple games to shake the rust off. I'm just as frustrated as the next Grant owner/Packer fan, but give the guy some time. In 8 weeks he was a top 10 RB last year. The hourglass isn't empty on him yet

Is Wynn or Jackson the choice here?

Yeah I guess it is about that time that the tools come out of the woodwork

 

[sho nuff]

Everyone's so quick to write off Ryan Grant... the guy really didn't play in any preseason games. So weeks 1-4 were his "preseason." Not to mention he's battled a hamstring injury. Last week was his first week actually healthy and after a couple games to shake the rust off. I'm just as frustrated as the next Grant owner/Packer fan, but give the guy some time. In 8 weeks he was a top 10 RB last year. The hourglass isn't empty on him yet

Is Wynn or Jackson the choice here?

For what? 3rd string RB to take over Lumpkin's 1 total carry this year?