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Krista4's Beatles 1-25 List Thread! Count down will start Mon Feb 14 noon ET. Will take new lists til then... (2 Viewers)

He's been wearing shades almost constantly since 1985 or thereabouts
That is true. Those eyes have been hidden behind tinted glasses for years. He is 81, and he probably dyes his head hair and facial hair. He has no gray. It's sorta like being in disguise. 

 
Is the Feb 13th deadline for real?

I was going to have to pull an all nighter this weekend but that gives me some time.

I love the idea of doing these but it's so hard to find the time. I am starting to feel silly even saying I am going to do it.

I really do want to and plan on doing this one. I think it will be interesting to see the list done under pressure. 
30th for you then  :D   13th for everyone else.

 
Is the Feb 13th deadline for real?

I was going to have to pull an all nighter this weekend but that gives me some time.

I love the idea of doing these but it's so hard to find the time. I am starting to feel silly even saying I am going to do it.

I really do want to and plan on doing this one. I think it will be interesting to see the list done under pressure. 


Don't give up!  I'm really looking forward to your list.

My mom and my friend Doug were both excited for the extension.  Doug said he can sleep again!

 
Boy Band, eh? i believe urine denial if ya think the chumps of the '90s got such gushing responses ...

 “Multiple people have claimed Beatles shows were known for their urine.” One of them was John B. Lynn, the son of the owner of a venue The Beatles played at. He told The Washington Post that the concert hall smelled like the pee of over-excited girls after the show. 

In 2010, Irish singer-songwriter Bob Geldof told Q Magazine that he was stunned at the number of young girls “pissing themselves” at a Beatles show he attended in the 1960s. 

"The Beatles was a case of watching females in excelsis,” he said. “It’s the old cliché, but you couldn’t hear them for all the screaming. I remember looking down at the cinema floor and seeing these rivulets of piss in the aisles. The girls were literally pissing themselves with excitement. So what I associate most with The Beatles is the smell of girls’ urine.”

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Faulkner is impenetrable mishmash. Paperback Writer is not.
Thank you.

As for "Paperback Writer", I don't usually care about lyrics so that doesn't bother me with this record. I'm not crazy about the vocal melody (though - weirdly - it reminds me of Stevie Wonder). But the playing is stunning to my ears.

 
Thank you.

As for "Paperback Writer", I don't usually care about lyrics so that doesn't bother me with this record. I'm not crazy about the vocal melody (though - weirdly - it reminds me of Stevie Wonder). But the playing is stunning to my ears.
They definitely cram a lot into the vocal melody, as Stevie was wont to do.

The playing is indeed stunning. There was a fun anecdote in Krista’s solo Beatles thread about Jason Falkner, who played on some of Paul’s Chaos and Creation in the Backyard. One day Falkner started warming up by playing the guitar riff off Paperback Writer — and Paul showed him he was doing it wrong. “I played that, you know.”

 
On this date in 1969, the Beatles met for the first time as a group with noted slimeball crook Allen Klein, who had already been hired by John as his financial manager and would be hired thereafter by the group as their business manager over Paul's objections.  This dispute, and Klein himself, should replace Yoko in the "why did the Beatles split up" narrative (which is not to say it was the only reason, but a bigger issue than Yoko ever was).  John and George also later regretted their relationship with garbage-person Klein, leading to various lawsuits between the Beatles, individually and as a group, and Klein.
I didn't know all this, but just listening to John talk about Klein after their first couple meetings it was hard to escape the idea that John was a sucker and he was being conned.

As for the breakup, 'Get Back' certainly tells it as a simple story:  George and John were ready to do their own thing (Yoko included) and Paul wasn't willing to let go enough to have them do that musically as "The Beatles".

 
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I work in ambulatory surgery and as such I see lots of old people. Last week while waiting for the surgeon I was talking about music with a nurse. The patient speaks up and asks if we like the Beatles. We say of course, who doesn't. He then starts telling us that he saw the Beatles a few times at the Cavern and it was before Ringo Starr. He said he met Ringo and he was a super cool guy.

He also told us he met and drank with Elvis for a night. Says Elvis was also fun and just one of the guys drinking.

The patient was in the military at the same time as Elvis and this is how that meeting happened.

Some of these older folks have some pretty good stories.

 
Boy Band, eh? i believe urine denial if ya think the chumps of the '90s got such gushing responses ...

 “Multiple people have claimed Beatles shows were known for their urine.” One of them was John B. Lynn, the son of the owner of a venue The Beatles played at. He told The Washington Post that the concert hall smelled like the pee of over-excited girls after the show. 

In 2010, Irish singer-songwriter Bob Geldof told Q Magazine that he was stunned at the number of young girls “pissing themselves” at a Beatles show he attended in the 1960s. 

"The Beatles was a case of watching females in excelsis,” he said. “It’s the old cliché, but you couldn’t hear them for all the screaming. I remember looking down at the cinema floor and seeing these rivulets of piss in the aisles. The girls were literally pissing themselves with excitement. So what I associate most with The Beatles is the smell of girls’ urine.”

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I am calling BS on this story. Rivulets of piss in the aisles? Cmon man that did not happen.

 
:lmao:   no, that's why the stories are only a page or so long ...
🙂   Well, it does not take me a page or so to do my business, unless something is wrong with the plumbing. I don't want to get detailed into toilet talk, but if I were to look at a book while "going," something like The Far Side would be sufficient. A picture with a funny caption underneath would be enough and all done. 

 
Who activated poop chat? I usually read Faulkner when I am seeing a man about a horse. All those run-on sentences move me.

Usually, Sound and Fury. Sometimes, As I Lay Dying. 

Best Beatle song for pooping? Old Brown Shoe?

 
Rivulets of Piss was the name of my one-man show on conservation. Critics called it "caustic" and "leaky".
Small world. Rivulets of Piss was the title of my collection of autobiographical avant garde poetry. The guy at Black Sparrow Press suggested the title in a nice letter regretting to inform me they wouldn’t publish it.

 
Best Beatle song for pooping? Old Brown Shoe?


yeah, yeah - i kno it's about Clapton's toofache, but ... 

You know that what you eat you are
But what is sweet now, turns so sour
We all know Ob-La-Di-Bla-Da
But can you show me, where you are?


nothing says poop song like ol' George slagging a "granny" tune.

 
On this date in 1964, the Beatles had their only EMI recording session outside of the UK*, when they went into the studio for "Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand" and "Sie Leibt Dich" in Paris.  EMI's German imprint had insisted they couldn't sell Beatles songs in Germany unless they were recorded in German.  This session was originally scheduled for a couple of days prior, but the Beatles didn't show, much to the frustration of George Martin, who went to their hotel:

"I barged into their suite, to be met by this incredible sight, right out of the Mad Hatter’s tea party. Jane Asher – Paul girlfriend – with her long red hair, was pouring tea from a china pot, and the others were sitting around her like March Hares.  They took one look at me and exploded, like in a school room when the headmaster enters. Some dived onto the sofa and hid behind curtains. ‘You are bastards!’ I screamed, to which they responded with impish little grins and roguish apologies. Within minutes we were on our way to the studio. They were right, actually. It wasn’t necessary for them to record in German, but they weren’t graceless, they did a good job."

After completing these two songs, the group also recorded portions of "Can't Buy Me Love" before performing two shows in Paris.  I get tired if I try to vacuum and mop on the same day.

*In 1968, George recorded some instrumental portions of "The Inner Light" with local musicians in India, but the rest of the lads added their parts back at Abbey Road.

 
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Reading all this love for the Beatles makes me feel the need to come clean. The wind-chill outside is around zero so it's not like I have anything else to do.

Even though I actively fight against it, I still harbor feelings about the Beatles that I developed as a pre-teen and struggle getting over.  I've recounted on several occasions that my parents listened only to country music.  At least it was what today is recognized as "good" country (Waylon, Willie, Merle, Dolly, Dottie, etc) but I had zero exposure to rock/pop until I got my own boom box and started religiously listening to the local Top 40 station ( and later binging MTV).  I had of course heard of the Beatles, but I can't recall actually ever hearing a song except for maybe I Want to Hold Your Hand on Ed Sullivan clips.

Queue Nobody Told Me by John Lennon suddenly getting massive airplay on the radio when I was 11.  I hated it.  All my friends hated it.  I mean, we thought it might be the worst song we had ever heard (the field was admittedly limited).  Then Sir Paul came along with Say Say Say and Ebony and Ivory and the The Girl is Mine.  I thought to myself, "How can the Beatles be so great when these songs suck so bad?"

When a classic rock station finally made it to my hometown, I quickly realized that my initial conclusion was woefully undercooked.  Still, no one at my high school really listened to them and neither did my college friends, so I remained decidedly ambivalent.  At one point over 15 years back, I bought a bunch of Beatles records at Princeton Record Exchange (one of the best records stores in the U.S., for the record) and tried to give them a legit shot.  But then my son went from baby to toddler and the turntable got shelved for quite a while.  

I know I really liked Rubber Soul and Help! and that Maxwell's Silver Hammer kind of made me stabby, but I'm still mainly a blank slate.  I tell people that have never seen The Wire that I'm jealous they get to experience it for the first time.  I'm looking forward to the same kind of thing here.  But nothing will ever make me not despise Nobody Told Me.

 
Reading all this love for the Beatles makes me feel the need to come clean. The wind-chill outside is around zero so it's not like I have anything else to do.

Even though I actively fight against it, I still harbor feelings about the Beatles that I developed as a pre-teen and struggle getting over.  I've recounted on several occasions that my parents listened only to country music.  At least it was what today is recognized as "good" country (Waylon, Willie, Merle, Dolly, Dottie, etc) but I had zero exposure to rock/pop until I got my own boom box and started religiously listening to the local Top 40 station ( and later binging MTV).  I had of course heard of the Beatles, but I can't recall actually ever hearing a song except for maybe I Want to Hold Your Hand on Ed Sullivan clips.

Queue Nobody Told Me by John Lennon suddenly getting massive airplay on the radio when I was 11.  I hated it.  All my friends hated it.  I mean, we thought it might be the worst song we had ever heard (the field was admittedly limited).  Then Sir Paul came along with Say Say Say and Ebony and Ivory and the The Girl is Mine.  I thought to myself, "How can the Beatles be so great when these songs suck so bad?"

When a classic rock station finally made it to my hometown, I quickly realized that my initial conclusion was woefully undercooked.  Still, no one at my high school really listened to them and neither did my college friends, so I remained decidedly ambivalent.  At one point over 15 years back, I bought a bunch of Beatles records at Princeton Record Exchange (one of the best records stores in the U.S., for the record) and tried to give them a legit shot.  But then my son went from baby to toddler and the turntable got shelved for quite a while.  

I know I really liked Rubber Soul and Help! and that Maxwell's Silver Hammer kind of made me stabby, but I'm still mainly a blank slate.  I tell people that have never seen The Wire that I'm jealous they get to experience it for the first time.  I'm looking forward to the same kind of thing here.  But nothing will ever make me not despise Nobody Told Me.
First impressions are strong ones. You might like their early stuff, some of which, in the words of RA, is punk as feck. 

I’ve spent many an hour in PRX.  :wub:

 
Reading all this love for the Beatles makes me feel the need to come clean. The wind-chill outside is around zero so it's not like I have anything else to do.

Even though I actively fight against it, I still harbor feelings about the Beatles that I developed as a pre-teen and struggle getting over.  I've recounted on several occasions that my parents listened only to country music.  At least it was what today is recognized as "good" country (Waylon, Willie, Merle, Dolly, Dottie, etc) but I had zero exposure to rock/pop until I got my own boom box and started religiously listening to the local Top 40 station ( and later binging MTV).  I had of course heard of the Beatles, but I can't recall actually ever hearing a song except for maybe I Want to Hold Your Hand on Ed Sullivan clips.

Queue Nobody Told Me by John Lennon suddenly getting massive airplay on the radio when I was 11.  I hated it.  All my friends hated it.  I mean, we thought it might be the worst song we had ever heard (the field was admittedly limited).  Then Sir Paul came along with Say Say Say and Ebony and Ivory and the The Girl is Mine.  I thought to myself, "How can the Beatles be so great when these songs suck so bad?"

When a classic rock station finally made it to my hometown, I quickly realized that my initial conclusion was woefully undercooked.  Still, no one at my high school really listened to them and neither did my college friends, so I remained decidedly ambivalent.  At one point over 15 years back, I bought a bunch of Beatles records at Princeton Record Exchange (one of the best records stores in the U.S., for the record) and tried to give them a legit shot.  But then my son went from baby to toddler and the turntable got shelved for quite a while.  

I know I really liked Rubber Soul and Help! and that Maxwell's Silver Hammer kind of made me stabby, but I'm still mainly a blank slate.  I tell people that have never seen The Wire that I'm jealous they get to experience it for the first time.  I'm looking forward to the same kind of thing here.  But nothing will ever make me not despise Nobody Told Me.


Welcome.  We like your kind here.  In my first Beatles thread, three years and several lifetimes ago, I admitted that I was a very late Beatles adopter.  Had many friends, primarily musicians I admired and enjoyed, who revered them, but I just didn't get it.  Oddly enough, the only song I really knew of theirs from growing up was, as with you, "I Want To Hold Your Hand."  I liked it well enough but didn't get the big deal.

Finally, I saw someone I loved perform "She Loves You" and it just ####### clicked.  So I started to scour the catalog and discovered...everything.  Every bit of music you could want, every genre, every scratch to my musical itch.

I'm saying again, welcome.  Start wherever you want.  Since you mentioned enjoying Rubber Soul and Help!, maybe go there along with Revolver.  Those three are by far my favorite Beatles era.  But no one could fault someone for loving the Sgt. Pepper's/white album, or the Abbey Road/Let It Be time, or the early stuff that blew the whole world the #### away.

I guess if I were to come at it fresh, I'd go in chronological order, if only to marvel at what one band could discover and produce in such a short period of time.  Please Please Me to Abbey Road...FFS.  The musical and technical innovations are unfathomable.  And that's setting aside the beauty and wonder and joy of the music itself.

I also note that you knew Paul or John from their later works, but only (especially for Paul) from the pop crises among them.  Both of them put out unbelievable solo works, though particularly Paul since he's had a lot longer to do it.  I did a 291-song countdown of my favorites of those (and George released, pound-for-pound, the best of them), which you could look at if only to take in the last several dozen.  For John, I'd start with the first Plastic Ono Band record, for George All Things Must Pass (of course), and for Paul check out Flaming Pie or obviously Band on the Run.  Ringo...well, Ringo.  He has had 21 records now, and I do have a couple of handsful of songs I think are wonderful.

 
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Welcome.  We like your kind here.  In my first Beatles thread, three years and several lifetimes ago, I admitted that I was a very late Beatles adopter.  Had many friends, primarily musicians I admired and enjoyed, who revered them, but I just didn't get it.  Oddly enough, the only song I really knew of theirs from growing up was, as with you, "I Want To Hold Your Hand."  I liked it well enough but didn't get the big deal.

Finally, I saw someone I loved perform "She Loves You" and it just ####### clicked.  So I started to scour the catalog and discovered...everything.  Every bit of music you could want, every genre, every scratch to my musical itch.

I'm saying again, welcome.  Start wherever you want.  Since you mentioned enjoying Rubber Soul and Help!, maybe go there along with Revolver.  Those three are by far my favorite Beatles era.  But no one could fault someone for loving the Sgt. Pepper's/white album, or the Abbey Road/Let It Be time, or the early stuff that blew the whole world the #### away.

I guess if I were to come at it fresh, I'd go in chronological order, if only to marvel at what one band could discover and produce in such a short period of time.  Please Please Me to Abbey Road...FFS.  The musical and technical innovations are unfathomable.  And that's setting aside the beauty and wonder and joy of the music itself.

I also note that you knew Paul or John from their later works, but only (especially for Paul) from the pop crises among them.  Both of them put out unbelievable solo works, though particularly Paul since he's had a lot longer to do it.  I did a 291-song countdown of my favorites of those (and George released, pound-for-pound, the best of them), which you could look at if only to take in the last several dozen.  For John, I'd start with the first Plastic Ono Band record, for George All Things Must Pass (of course), and for Paul check out Flaming Pie or obviously Band on the Run.  Ringo...well, Ringo.  He has had 21 records now, and I do have a couple of handsful of songs I think are wonderful.




The only thing I have to add is get your 1-25 list in by Feb 13th!

 
Thoughts from the crew in terms of including website/magazine stuff? 

When I did the other two Beatles countdowns, I didn't include any rankings from NME, Rolling Stone, whatever, because I don't GAF.  But in both the U2 and LZ countdowns they have included rankings and write-ups.  Would you guys like to have these for comparison and discussion of how wrong they are?

 
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I do find those interesting, and it would be cool, but if it's too much effort for you, Getz or whoever, then that's OK. 


It's basically zero effort.  In fact makes things easier in that you don't have to write so much yourself.  :lol:   I do think it could be fun for comparison.  I'll work with Getz and MYSTERY WRITER to include those.

 
Thoughts from the crew on write-ups from Getz and the others of us, in terms of including website/magazine stuff? 

When I did the other two Beatles countdowns, I didn't include any rankings from NME, Rolling Stone, whatever, because I don't GAF.  But in both the U2 and LZ countdowns they have included rankings and write-ups.  Would you guys like to have these for comparison and discussion of how wrong they are?
Thought crossed my mine on this last week.  

I don't really care about those and I hope we don't do it.  Most of those types of lists seem way off base.  And they will detract from the great comments from everybody when we do the count down.  JMO.

 
Thought crossed my mine on this last week.  

I don't really care about those and I hope we don't do it.  Most of those types of lists seem way off base.  And they will detract from the great comments from everybody when we do the count down.  JMO.


Oops.

 
Maybe we do our own things and then just a separate post with this stuff in it.  It does seem to spark some conversation.

 
I could be wrong, but I don't see many comments on those in the LZ thread, other than the one today that mentioned was was really bizarre 


Actually I'm not sure many people have read them in that thread or in U2, based on comments.  But our man Pip reads them and comments, because he's awesome.

I dunno.  We could instead just do a post after our countdown of how we compared to whatever lists are out there?

I really don't care about any of it.  Obviously didn't include in my countdowns for that reason.  Just trying to give the people what they want.

 
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Actually I'm not sure many people have read them in that thread or in U2, based on comments.  But our man Pip reads them and comments, because he's awesome.

I dunno.  We could instead just do a post after our countdown of how we compared to whatever lists are out there?

I really don't care about any of it.  Obviously didn't include in my countdowns for that reason.  Just trying to give the people what they want.
Probably my short attention span, but the LZ writeups are just way too long for me.  So I auto skip those old list rankings and just read what he writes about which voters ranked it high and that info.

Maybe just post 1-2 of them that you find interesting?

The thing for me doing this is our list will be the most current on the planet, and thus better than any list out there because it will be based on how we fell about all the songs right now.

We will also have two great write ups for almost every song and great listener stories like we had last time.

 

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