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Lamar Miller, 2016, Infinity and beyond (1 Viewer)
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JustinHawkins
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He is so much better than anything else they have it's laughable
Todem
Footballguy
Yeah......but our coaches know better than all of us.
They must....they are being paid for this garbage they call a game plan today.
They abandon the run.....every single game.
get cute.....it's a joke.
I give up on them (Dolphins) it's offensive that this is what Ross and Ireland call a coaching staff........really it is.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Miller wasn't breaking tackles, he had holes big enough to wheel your grandma thru and then he id nothing IMO once he got into the secondary, guy has no vision in the NFL. Bush is light years ahead of him, would not get excited about anything today, Guy never breaks a tackle which makes him close to useless for an NFL team.
no vision, no ability to break tackles. his oline must be pretty damn good since such a limited player is getting 4.4 ypc. but daniel thomas only gets 3.4. so dt must be atrocious. or the line must only block well for lamar.
i just dont know.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
How much longer do the GM and HC have with this? 1 year? Multiple ones?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
reread the post, I think you can figure out the point. if you are still having trouble I will attempt to explain even more explicitly.Watch the game on NFLR and judge for yourself. I never said a word about DT
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Some people like to view box scores and make their own judgmentsWatch the game on NFLR and judge for yourself. I never said a word about DT
You should start every RB vs. the New England run D right now. They're just brutal. The RB rotation isn't leaving Miami this year and they're not going to commit to the run like they did today.
JMO You're chasing points here. Take a look ahead at Miami's schedule through Week 14. There's not a game there I'd feel real comfortable starting Miller (a timeshare back in a pass first offense). Not to mention the presences of Thomas & Charles Clay at the goalline.
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Todem
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Even against NE...they would not totally commit to running the ball down their throats. Way too many 3 and outs because of passing, passing and more passing......this coaching staff blew the game along with some shady officiating to help the cause. The Fins should have had 45 carries easy. Did they not see the Jets the week before?
It was disgusting how they would not keep running the ball to set the pass up......they did the opposite. Going from shotgun on first down....it's crazy. New England can't stop the run......and Sherman just keeps trying to force feed the pass.
It was disgusting how they would not keep running the ball to set the pass up......they did the opposite. Going from shotgun on first down....it's crazy. New England can't stop the run......and Sherman just keeps trying to force feed the pass.
jurb26
Footballguy
The Mia coaching staff is awful. Where are all the people saying, "but they are 3-0 and know what they're doing?" They have now dropped 4 games in a row and may effectively take themselves out of the playoff hunt in what should be a wide open race for the 6th seed. They abandon the run game far too early and worse yet, squander leads in every game.
Lamar Miller - RB - Dolphins
NFL Network's Jeff Darlington reports that some Dolphins players "are starting to wonder about this offensive gameplan."
"Let me not overstate this: The locker room is still together," Darlington explained. "There's still a good vibe in there. I talked to several players today and they still feel like they can get this season back on track. However, there is some question of what OC Mike Sherman is starting to do and it really started to come to a head after Sunday's loss to the Patriots." Featuring Lamar Miller, the Dolphins ran the ball 22 times for 120 yards in the first half last Sunday and jumped out to a 17-3 lead. In the third quarter, Sherman dialed up just six run plays and the game was quickly tied up at 17-17. While we'd like to think the Dolphins are starting to see the light with Miller, only time will tell.
Source: NFL.com
Rotoworld
NFL Network's Jeff Darlington reports that some Dolphins players "are starting to wonder about this offensive gameplan."
"Let me not overstate this: The locker room is still together," Darlington explained. "There's still a good vibe in there. I talked to several players today and they still feel like they can get this season back on track. However, there is some question of what OC Mike Sherman is starting to do and it really started to come to a head after Sunday's loss to the Patriots." Featuring Lamar Miller, the Dolphins ran the ball 22 times for 120 yards in the first half last Sunday and jumped out to a 17-3 lead. In the third quarter, Sherman dialed up just six run plays and the game was quickly tied up at 17-17. While we'd like to think the Dolphins are starting to see the light with Miller, only time will tell.
Source: NFL.com
Rotoworld
smapdi
Footballguy
This Miami coaching staff is just brutal. The numbers speak for themselves: 22 for 120 yards in the first half. 17-3 lead and then you only rush the ball 6 times in the 3rd quarter??? WTF are they doing? That NE defense was primed to be abused in the run game & that's exactly what Miami did in the 1st half. They should've continued to ram it down their throats in the 2nd half and run it all over a tired, injury depleted NE front 7. They played right into NE's hands throwing the ball.
It's pretty clear that their road to winning games isn't Tannehill's arm. It might be down the road but he's just not good enough to do that right now. Why Sherman thinks that he can keep forcing the pass game and it will somehow start being effective is beyond me.
It's pretty clear that their road to winning games isn't Tannehill's arm. It might be down the road but he's just not good enough to do that right now. Why Sherman thinks that he can keep forcing the pass game and it will somehow start being effective is beyond me.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Miller getting good chunks of yards on his carries. Thomas, not so much.
I didn't start him tonight but maybe tonight's the night he clicks and the coaching staff sees what happens when they feed him the ball.
I didn't start him tonight but maybe tonight's the night he clicks and the coaching staff sees what happens when they feed him the ball.
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Todem
Footballguy
He has clicked in several games......problem is...this coaching staff are a bunch of tools.
Oh and he has been clicking again at 5 yards a pop tonight......go figure that.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
If miller keep running left there he scores a touchdown.
Markus P Dub
Footballguy
uggggh. great #######g run and thought he would cut it outside. damn they better not bench him for that
ICON211
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werdnoynek
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
Daniel Thomas needs to pretend he's injured for Halloween and stay on the sideline... perhaps for the rest of the season.
Miller has almost 100 total yards already this half and should have 120+ and a TD. Let the man eat in the second half Philbin.
Miller has almost 100 total yards already this half and should have 120+ and a TD. Let the man eat in the second half Philbin.
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KellysHeroes
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Fumble aside, Miller looked fantastic against a tough run D. And his usage is even more encouraging. 16 carries and I believe 4 catches? His day should have been much bigger had he ran left on that big run. It was a td for sure.
Perhaps philbin and Sherman are finally starting to understand that they need to tailor their gameplans to their personnel. It's ok to throw 50 times a game of your qb is Aaron Rodgers. But Tannehill is no Aaron Rodgers.
Every time they focus on the run game the dolphins play well. When they get away from that they play poorly. It's not rocket science.
Perhaps philbin and Sherman are finally starting to understand that they need to tailor their gameplans to their personnel. It's ok to throw 50 times a game of your qb is Aaron Rodgers. But Tannehill is no Aaron Rodgers.
Every time they focus on the run game the dolphins play well. When they get away from that they play poorly. It's not rocket science.
ICON211
Footballguy
Not sure they get it yet. 16 carries for Miller and 12 for Thomas and lots of bizarre no back shotgun plays.
I agree that there is sill room for improvement. But this was a breakout game of sorts for miller vs a tough run d. Most importantly the fins won a game and stopped a 4 game slide and they did it by going 50% run. 50% pass (exactly I think. 28 run plays 28 pass plays?).
So I think they will try to stick with that formula moving forward.
As for Daniel thomas? He plodded away for around 3ypc while miller looked dynamic with 6ypc and another long run of 40+ yards.
Miami's run blocking has also improved greatly as the season has progressed.
Another important note is that focusing more on the run today kept tannehill from taking a huge beating.
The cream seems to be rising to the top. I'm liking miller as my rb2/3 rt now.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
Those things never really mean anything, it's a little more than a "vote of confidence".
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I'm sad he didn't score that TD because his trade value would be higher right now.
JustinHawkins
Footballguy
I think the media played a part in this, as they brought a LOT of negative attention and questions about the offense. About time they freaking used Miller!
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
I would buy low on Miller if I didn't already own him.
NREC34
Footballguy
smapdi
Footballguy
I agree. You still might be able to get him on the cheap from a frustrated Miller owner. There were a ton of expectations heaped on this kid going into the season & he clearly didn't live up to them. I'm sure a lot of owners out there drafted him as their RB2 after going non-RB high in the draft & are not too happy.
I think the best has yet to come with him. The Miami coaching staff is starting to show some semblance of common sense these last couple weeks by sticking with the run game instead of Tannehill. He's coming off his best 2 weeks of the season and last night's game was his 1st 100 yard performance. If you're going to move on him, I'd do it now. Ignorant owners may not realize he busted off a 41 yarder that he fumbled away.
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
You know how it works with many fantasy owners...they are waiting for one good/decent game and then they unload a player who has frustrated them with below-expectation performance.
His day could have been much better than his numbers indicate also. Of course he could have and should have scored on the long run which ended with a fumble. He then sat for quite a bit after the fumble, which is why Thomas' snap count and rush attempt numbers were as good as they were. Miller was in there for the entirety of the drives at the end of the fourth and in overtime when the game was on the line which tells us that they trust him more than Thomas and they think he gives them a better chance to win. I'd be surprised if Miller doesn't get 2/3 of the snaps/rushes from here on out. If he gets to the point that he's getting 75% then he becomes a RB1. I like his upside going forward.
JackReacher
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Timmay
Footballguy
Just when I thought Lamar Miller was going to be a solid RB2 resy of the year, this O-Line stuff has to come up.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So what will the line look like next week?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Somebody in the bully thread said the line might actually be better??
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Center Mike Pouncey is OUT today...
LT-Vacated
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New starting line up
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Miami OL is i shambles…be a miracle if they had a strong performance today.
LT-Vacated
LG-Suspended
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New starting line up
LT-Old
LG-Below Avg
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Miami OL is i shambles…be a miracle if they had a strong performance today.
Todem
Footballguy
He is not statable today (or the rest of the year for that matter). The OL is a disaster. Tannehill is running for his life by the third step on his drop backs.
Max protect all day today.
The entire season has been one big disaster. The crazy thing is...put Lamar Miller on a competent team....the kid would be a productive homerun hitter. We have only seen glimpses of his breakaway talent. He has great potential. But on this team.....it will unrealized this year.
I pray they clean house with Ireland, Philbin and Sherman......and get a new staff in here. Miller may be a casualty as well with a new regime...but no doubt would be picked up fast....he has big time play making talent in a competent offense.
I thought Miami's line was going to improve this season......the exact opposite happened. Imploded is the word.
He may also be the beneficial of a brand new staff.....new GM...and the Dolphins adding a few new OL to get this ship in order. Because top to bottom.....we have a lot of talent. But the OL is the achilles heal here. I would love to see Tannehill, Miller, Wallace, Hartline, Clay playing with a competent OL. It would be startling. Also a better OC than the abortion that is Mike Sherman who could not call a game if his life depended on it. All these second half collapses.....look just like what he did at A&M when he had Tannehill.
Fire all of them.
Max protect all day today.
The entire season has been one big disaster. The crazy thing is...put Lamar Miller on a competent team....the kid would be a productive homerun hitter. We have only seen glimpses of his breakaway talent. He has great potential. But on this team.....it will unrealized this year.
I pray they clean house with Ireland, Philbin and Sherman......and get a new staff in here. Miller may be a casualty as well with a new regime...but no doubt would be picked up fast....he has big time play making talent in a competent offense.
I thought Miami's line was going to improve this season......the exact opposite happened. Imploded is the word.
He may also be the beneficial of a brand new staff.....new GM...and the Dolphins adding a few new OL to get this ship in order. Because top to bottom.....we have a lot of talent. But the OL is the achilles heal here. I would love to see Tannehill, Miller, Wallace, Hartline, Clay playing with a competent OL. It would be startling. Also a better OC than the abortion that is Mike Sherman who could not call a game if his life depended on it. All these second half collapses.....look just like what he did at A&M when he had Tannehill.
Fire all of them.
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G
General Tso
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He's done. Thomas has gotten all the red zone looks all season, and now he is also getting the bulk of the carries between the 20's. Total bust.
