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Larry Donnell - NY Giants Tight End (2 Viewers)
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ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Is this guy for real or a fluke? Looks legit but this is the first game i've seen of him.
RichInOrlando
Footballguy
Tough to say, but Eli has always loved the TE, so that somewhat validates his use in this O
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TwinTurbo
Footballguy
He's done it 4 games straight. Tough to call it a fluke now. Guy looks like a young Gates.
tombonneau
Footballguy
I wish I could remember who the guy in the Week 1 Giants game day thread was who said Donnell was going to be a big part of the offense. Been the best WW pickup of the year so far.
ponchsox
Footballguy
If you had him in your lineup today, kudos. He'll be a hot add next week, for sure but people will be chasing this 3 TD game all season.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
Eli is just locking on to this guy in the red zone.
I think I'd be chasing his 3 TD performance as well.
This kid isn't done catching TD's this season.
I think I'd be chasing his 3 TD performance as well.
This kid isn't done catching TD's this season.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Oh yeah. I had Jordan Reed so he's been in my lineup since Week 2. Looks like dude's gonna lead the league in RZ targets.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
tombonneau
Footballguy
Not sure you've been paying attention. He'll have 3 more TDs by Halloween. TEs are getting targeted nearly exclusively in RZ by Giants. He will finish in the top 5 easy if he stays healthy.
This.
If you didn't take note of him until tonight and he was still available in your league...who are you playing with?
He has.
We could see this coming. Okay, we couldn't see 3 TD's coming, but the potential was clearly there.
I went all in with Donnell/Manning tonight (to keep it short, I started one or the other in 5 of my 7 leagues), and man oh man is it sweet
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RichInOrlando
Footballguy
Could have been a bigger game. Eli missed him twice for the 4th TD. This guy is the apple of Eli's eye.
And there were defensive penalties on both of those (first one not called, second one called), if I am not mistaken. That's 4 successes out of 5 targets in the end zone.
The Giants had a ludicrous amount of snaps inside the WAS ~2 yard line though.
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Darryl Talley
Footballguy
I've had this guy for 3 weeks now and still don't know what he looks like much less seen him play football. I read he fumbled last week on the way to the endzone? Yeah, bro. When they're inside the 10 it's Larry D time.
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
I don't see much run-after-catch ability at this point but he is a big target who goes up and snatches the ball at the highest point in the red zone. Somebody compared him to Gates and I do see some of that. Its still early but I am happy to have picked him up a couple of weeks ago and very glad I started him this week.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Like Eli, Donnell will have boom and bust weeks, and he won't have other 3 TD games. But Donnell is a killer W/R/T flex option, and someone who has looked like a TE1 all year.
He gets consistent targets, works in an offensive system that works to both his and Eli's advantage (shorter, quicker routes), and Donnell has the ability to create the kinds of mismatches that make for great red zone targets -- Eli can put it up in the air and let Donnell use his height/size (6'6, 270) to go up top and get it.
He gets consistent targets, works in an offensive system that works to both his and Eli's advantage (shorter, quicker routes), and Donnell has the ability to create the kinds of mismatches that make for great red zone targets -- Eli can put it up in the air and let Donnell use his height/size (6'6, 270) to go up top and get it.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
FBG really whiffed on this guy.
If I were to make a checklist to sustain TE1 status (not chasing 3 TD games of course)
1. Plays in an offense that features TE in the redzone.
2. Good connection with the QB.
3. Other offensive players on the same team that commands coverage.
4. Measurables and athletic ability (not the fastest in his position but the jump ball ability is excellent).
5. Good blocker (look at the footage he was actually good at opening holes for Jennings).
6. Steps up during high leverage situations (3 TDs on national TV at the nations capital).
7. Plays in a division with soft defenses (Dallas, Philadelphia and Washington my goodness)
I think Larry Donnell will have the opportunity to be a top 4 TE this year and in dynasty leagues.
1. Plays in an offense that features TE in the redzone.
2. Good connection with the QB.
3. Other offensive players on the same team that commands coverage.
4. Measurables and athletic ability (not the fastest in his position but the jump ball ability is excellent).
5. Good blocker (look at the footage he was actually good at opening holes for Jennings).
6. Steps up during high leverage situations (3 TDs on national TV at the nations capital).
7. Plays in a division with soft defenses (Dallas, Philadelphia and Washington my goodness)
I think Larry Donnell will have the opportunity to be a top 4 TE this year and in dynasty leagues.
DirtyCashDylan
Footballguy
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Tremblay had him ranked at TE4 this week for PPR/FFPC scoring. Not too shabby.
In preseason, the Giants offense looked very sluggish outside of the running game. And I don't think most people even knew Donnell's name and did anybody actually draft him in any redraft league? I don't think there were many leagues deep enough to warrant drafting a Giants TE after the preseason. But in that week 1 game he looked really good. And after 4 weeks, it's obviously a trend and not a fluke.
Also AC, but speaking of that...after week 2 I traded Bennett + Locker for Rivers which created the empty roster spot I needed to bid on and win Donnell (spent 17% of FAAB, I also had Brady and Gronk but we can flex a TE). I love it when a plan comes together.
But anyway I also might rather trade Bennett. His offense hit the ground running and the CHI WR's haven't been totally healthy so he has had more consistent production than Donnell so far, but barring continuous injury issues Bennett is going to be the #3 target, at best, in CHI and Cutler hasn't played a full season since 2009. Eli is like Mr Ironman and Donnell is a favorite target + the offense really uses the TE...Donnell seems more sustainable to me.
I didn't even know Donnell's name until after week 1 when somebody floated it somewhere in SP and I then noticed that a very keen owner in one of my leagues had picked him up.
Then after week 2 he was a hot topic here and elsewhere, along with Niles Paul, as two of the bigger targets for post week 2 waivers.
Hoss Style
Footballguy
I picked up Donnell a few weeks ago until Cameron got healthy/back in the groove.
Now I have Cameron in case Donnell gets hurt.
Man, things change fast in FF.
Now I have Cameron in case Donnell gets hurt.
Man, things change fast in FF.
DirtyCashDylan
Footballguy
I first noticed Donnell in week 1 when Scott Hanson on Redzone brought up the fact that Eli kept forcing it to Donnell (unsuccessfully.) I picked him up after week 2 when Dwayne Allen put up a goose egg and was kicking myself for it up til this game.
Choo choo baby
Choo choo baby
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Miscellaneous pat on my back comment relating to having Donnell on a team in a TE premium league AND starting this week.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
And Julius is on bye.
For production per game thus far this season Julius and Bennett are the top two (in standard scoring and I assume most scoring). But going forward, we will have to see. Graham should have a say in the matter before it's all said and done.
Picked him up early season in desparation after Reed went down. I've actually played him every week because even before this breakout game, he's been Eli's main target. I'm not worried if he doesn't score tons of TDs, because outside of guys like Graham and Gronk, he receives as many opportunities per game than any TE in the league...in PPR league like mine that's all I really need as someone who wasn't spending an early pick on a top TE...
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Started him as a flex spot, but now that he's scored 30+ pts for me, I can now consider benching Gronk this week. Unreal. Wildly exceeded my expectations.
football_genus
Footballguy
Getting lots of targets, especially in the red zone. Big target, has some athleticism, good receiving technique, uses his body to block out defenders.
My only concern is that he seems to have limited yardage potential. Doesn't get downfield much, and doesn't have much YAC ability to turn short receptions into large gains. I think this keeps him out of the elite category.
My only concern is that he seems to have limited yardage potential. Doesn't get downfield much, and doesn't have much YAC ability to turn short receptions into large gains. I think this keeps him out of the elite category.
football_genus
Footballguy
Now THAT is chasing points.
Don't bench (healthy) Gronk for Donnell after one great game. Flex him.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He's 6'6" 265 - not the most athletic player on the field, but he has been a solid route runner and is sure handed. His best attribute however is the Eli LOVES the guy. He's a target monster at with his size will be a consistent red-zone option.
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
I said almost exactly the same thing about some under-the-radar TE named Julius Thomas after Week 1 last year and refused to chase him in any of my leagues. How'd that work out for me?
And that was someone playing with a QB who doesn't have a history of locking onto a favorite target the way Eli tends to.
Donnell could quite possibly finish TE1 this season. Do I think it's likely? Of course not, but it's possible. If I had a chance to "buy high" from a leaguemate who thinks he's a one-week wonder, I'd jump at it.
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T with T
Footballguy
This years Julius Thomas, Jimmy Graham.. I picked up Graham in a redraft the year he blew it up after Shockey left. PIcked this guy up in as many dynasty leagues as I could after I watched him vs the Lions Week 1. Guy is 6-6 and can run and has giant hands.... Boat is way to far to jump in now Get your life jackets fellas.... 
Black
Footballguy
It seems like using the TE is the first step in getting the new offense to work. Maybe weeks 1-3 was estabilshing the run. Now they are getting some short passing worked in to their big TE targets with some shots taken downfield. The next step would be to get the WR worked in (including ODB when healthy) to open the thing up.
It was interesting that they were passing vs. running in the redzone, but that might have been a function of the WAS d-line? I'd have to watch the full game to really be sure. But, it does seem to portend to a GB type of system that throws for short yardage TDs and devalues the running back short yardage.
I mean, who knows. Maybe it was just WAS defense laying an egg, but it seems like it's a system developing week to week.
It was interesting that they were passing vs. running in the redzone, but that might have been a function of the WAS d-line? I'd have to watch the full game to really be sure. But, it does seem to portend to a GB type of system that throws for short yardage TDs and devalues the running back short yardage.
I mean, who knows. Maybe it was just WAS defense laying an egg, but it seems like it's a system developing week to week.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
It looked to me that the offensive playcalling was perfectly matched to diagnose Washington's defensive scheme. A good microcosm of that was when Eli hit Cruz for a long gainer with just a second left on the clock before halftime. The announcers were scratching their heads wondering why they burned their last timeout. But they found a soft spot deep down the sideline and executed it like they had worked that play 100 times in practice. Washington's defense definitely layed an egg, but give credit to New York for solving it and exectuting against it.
Agreed.
And going forward I would consider starting both. (in my main league, I will be starting both most weeks I think using flex as a matter of fact)
I also like, for Gronk's potential, that the game is MNF. Primetime for the Patriots, they ought to be on their game
I've loving TNF recently, I had Julio in 3 leagues to watch last week and Donnell in three/Eli in two last night.Although I had 4 players on one team three weeks ago for BAL/PIT and that was ugly.
I was WTF'ing at them taking that timeout as well but man that pass/catch was beautiful.
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Just checked the Giants schedule and wouldn't you know it they play Atl, Philadelphia and Dallas the next three weeks.
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