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looks like a deal is done

its culpepper for bulger and a 4th round pick

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:shock: :shock: I never saw this coming.
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This is accptable trade from a vikings fan stand point. If this is the deal that is done. Only thing I would take over this is top 10 pick. Even then I not sure Bulger is heck of QB if he can stay of the feild.

 
I'd like to throw out my uninformed, no basis in reality guess. 

What if the Vikings strong armed the Dolphins saying "look, we have more money than you to throw at Brees and if you don't want to work something out for C-pep you gonna be sucking air come Sept. We will be sitting pretty with Brees and C-pep playing for your AFC rival (Oakland)".  Offer up!
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I don't get the impression Saban would go for that, I think he would say fine and just go back to looking at drafting his QB.
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I had the same thought. I wonder if Minnesota is just blowing smoke trying to get a couple teams in a bidding war for a player that in all likelihood will be let go anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if "rumors" start circulating that the "before free agency deadline" for trading CPepp is somehow pushed back, and we're sitting here in 2 weeks still wondering where Culpepper will be playing next year.I would be surprised if Saban plays this game. But if he has done his homework and likes what he sees in Culpepper (eventhough I haven't read anywhere that they've actually had a face to face sit down meeting) then Nick will pull the trigger. Hard to believe he'd give up a 1st rounder this year or next. But who knows...

 
As a Rams homer I don't like the deal initially but the more I think about it I like it. IF, and that's a big IF Culp can get healthy. Culpepper obviously needs a top flight WR in order to be hugely productive. The Rams have that in Holt as well as a multitude of other up and coming WR's. Throw in talks of more negotiations with Ike Bruce and Linehan wanting to get a TE that can stretch the field (trade up to get Vernon Davis?!?!) and Culpepper might be able to thrive in this situation. IF he can get healthy.

 
A very old FINHEAVEN poster (joined five years ago) said he heard CPEP will be traded to the Dolphins for a third, and that he is currently negotiating a contract with the team. No link was given.

Just throwing it out there, because thats what these threads (and boards) are for. Still trying to verify the validity of the poster ans rumor. I'll update you if theres any more info.

 
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looks like a deal is done

its culpepper for bulger and a 4th round pick

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Done?
The news appears to have changed as of early this morning however, when Vikings board confirmed with no less than two sources that there are now other players in the mix.

"After the news of the Rams' offer became public, two other highly interested clubs decided to jump into the fray with more serious offers" said one source out of Minnesota. The other insider is telling us that the club most interested now is Oakland and "another AFC team".

Vikingsboard believes that team is the Miami Dolphins, but our insider refused to confirm or deny that
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I'm shocked that a Vikings fan board called it a done deal before it was actually done. Who could have guessed that?

 
If Culpepper stayed in Minnesota  why wouldn't he win the job over BJ?  I just don't get the appeal of this deal for either team.
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He would except for the fact that he's probably pushing 300 lbs+ on his frame and his latest injury included not just a tear to his ACL, but also his MCL and PCL as well. Expected recovery time has him coming in healthy on November 1st, 2006.I'm factoring in a slightly longer rehabilitation due to his size and the fact that mobility is key to his success. Could he recover sooner than that? Of course, but I think the team needs to assume that he won't even be able to play next year. This makes his trade worth much less obviously so the Vikes will be sending out reports about how well he is progressing in his rehab. Just take them with a grain of salt imo. If he plays in week 1, I'll eat my crow sandwich.
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If Culpepper is out this long and the Rams rumor is true. Then the Rams also need to find another viable QB for the first half of the season. This trade makes little sense.
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kitna perhaps? New rams OC greg Olson helped develop Jon Kitna at Central Washington,
 
I just don't see how this is a good trade for either team.
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I doubt thats the deal, but....how is that not a good trade for both teams?If Cpep is ready to play, he knows Linehan's system and has prospered in it. He'll help the offense get on track much earlier than it would with Bulger.

Cpep will NOT be the starting QB for Minny next year no matter what...whats wrong with getting a Pro Bowl QB for him?
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If Culpepper stayed in Minnesota why wouldn't he win the job over BJ? I just don't get the appeal of this deal for either team.
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Hi, Have you read the rest of this thread?

 
looks like a deal is done

its culpepper for bulger and a 4th round pick

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Done?
The news appears to have changed as of early this morning however, when Vikings board confirmed with no less than two sources that there are now other players in the mix.

"After the news of the Rams' offer became public, two other highly interested clubs decided to jump into the fray with more serious offers" said one source out of Minnesota. The other insider is telling us that the club most interested now is Oakland and "another AFC team".

Vikingsboard believes that team is the Miami Dolphins, but our insider refused to confirm or deny that
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I'm sorry, this is so obviously the Minnesota front office trying to manufacture a feeding frenzy. Not saying I'm complaining if it works (being a Viking fan) but things don't get more transparent than this.
 
Stop calling the PFT-Rams comment a "rumor".  They said "Our guess (and it's only a guess) is that it'll be the Rams" 

This is definitely a case where I agree with the people who say this shouldn't even be posted here as a rumor.
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I agree with everything you said there, except the part about "it shouldn't be posted here." We speculate, other sites speculate, other sports people speculate. Speculate = guess. We post a lot of that stuff, so why exclude PFT or anyone from it? Yes, it should be labeled "guess", but it should still be posted. Perhaps that's what you meant and I didn't understand.
PFT is not saying they have any inside information indicating this; it's just speculation. So they should get no credit for a 'scoop' even if it should turn out to be correct, and no derision for bad information if it doesn't come true.  This is no different than us on here speculating where he might be traded other than Florio having a bigger audience. But at least he told us it was a guess and not a rumor.
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I agree with all of that.
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Good point... I overreacted. I guess it would be clearer that if people posted stuff like this, they labeled it clearly as a guess, rather than a rumor. PFT gets too much stuff right that they never get credit for from some people around here. I hate to see something they clearly label as a guess posted out here as one of their "rumors" that may be proven wrong, thus giving the haters more fodder.
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Can we please shelve our love and/or hate for PFT and try not to discuss it anytime they GUESS at something or post a RUMOR or whatever else. IT has gotten REALLY old.
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:hot: :boxing:
 
Mort reporting now on ESPN that C-PEP will go to either Miami or Oakland. Outside shot to the Jets.

Mort says if C-Pep goes to Oakland (which he feels he will) then Brees goes to Miami.

Also says TO is headed to Big D, more then likely.

 
I don't care if they get a bag of magic beans for him, but for ####s sake do something!!!!

 
Just waiting for a rumor where Culpepper gets traded to the Jets.

Then TO gets traded to the Jets.

Then the Jets trade up to 1.01.

;)

 
:eek: He's got Raiders written all over him...Culpep to Moss, part Deux...with Porter playing the role of C. Carter. :yes:
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AL Davis is probably more hungry to get Cpepp than Miami's ownership is...Moss looked like a waste of $$ past year, playing with Collins and the rest of that hapless offense..

 
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Adam Schefter just reported on the NFL Network that Oakland never even made an offer for Culpepper. It's down to two teams. Aside from Oakland, the Saints and Ravens are not involved.

That Bongo dude did say last night that Oakland was never involved and that it was between Miami, Arizona, and Cleveland.

 
Can we please shelve our love and/or hate for PFT and try not to discuss it anytime they GUESS at something or post a RUMOR or whatever else. IT has gotten REALLY old.
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Well...
Profootballtalk has a rumor of . . .
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Please don't waste bandwidth, guy.
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[four-year old]...he started it!!!!

[/four-year old]

;)
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Geez, i was just jumping around last night trying to find a little info and I mentioned something about PFT saying something about CPepp going to the Rams, I dont believe I made a big deal out of it, just somethig I read, now we have people getting pissy all over the place!! :loco: just want this trade thing to get over with and see how bad we get kicked in the groin again. lighten up people...

 
Adam Schefter just reported on the NFL Network that Oakland never even made an offer for Culpepper. It's down to two teams. Aside from Oakland, the Saints and Ravens are not involved.

That Bongo dude did say last night that Oakland was never involved and that it was between Miami, Arizona, and Cleveland.
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Here's hoping Bongo's right. CPep needs a dominant WR who has the ability to go after the ball. All of these teams have a guy like that, at least if Braylon and KW2 are healthy.

AZ is a FFer's dream.

 
plus if they get a QB & RB via FA... they might have a shot at TE vernon davis if he drops... so they could hypothetically be adding him to c-pepp, edge, fitz & boldin... that would be a skill position dream team...

 
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I would think that this will do wonders for the value of Brad Johnson
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I think Minnesota goes into rebuild mode for a year. I see BJ doing aight, but nothing specatcular. Fantastic QB3, but that's about it. I also expect him to miss time due to age....But good for him if he gets one more nice signing bonus before he calls it a career....
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He was a top 7-8 QB in most leagues over the last half of the season. Any reason that would not continue?
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Age concerns me... 38 at the start of the season?
 
Culpep + Edge + Fitz + Boldin = :eek:
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They would be unstoppable...plus Rackers will probably go the entire season without missing a FG and then in the NFC championship...never mind. :wall:
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:lmao: You left out the part about Denny deciding to take a knee instead of going for the win.
 
They just said on espnnews that the deal with Oakland has fell through and will not happen. They had a deadline of tonight before FA began and will now go different ways.

 
Both PFT and the NFL Network have been reporting for a long time that Oakland never made an offer for Culpepper.

Schefter just reported that there are 2 different deals in place for Culpepper with "not Oakland, not New Orleans, and not Baltimore."

 
The Dolphins, Raiders, and Titans were reportedly the 3 teams involved in the final bidding for Culpepper, according to Clayton.

 
Can we please shelve our love and/or hate for PFT and try not to discuss it anytime they GUESS at something or post a RUMOR or whatever else. IT has gotten REALLY old.
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Well...
Profootballtalk has a rumor of . . .
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Please don't waste bandwidth, guy.
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[four-year old]...he started it!!!!

[/four-year old]

;)
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Geez, i was just jumping around last night trying to find a little info and I mentioned something about PFT saying something about CPepp going to the Rams, I dont believe I made a big deal out of it, just somethig I read, now we have people getting pissy all over the place!! :loco: just want this trade thing to get over with and see how bad we get kicked in the groin again. lighten up people...
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Man, I've got some serious problems being clear in this thread. I was referring to redman's unnecessary comment. Back on topic...Interesting if it was really that oakland backed out after they pushed negotiations to the last minute. I wonder if the Vikes kept shopping around trying to raise the price and the Raiders just got tired of it. If they did, it sounds a lot like the Leftwich draft a few years ago where the Vikings tried to keep raising the ante for their 1st rounder with jax and baltimore and waited so long that the thing fell through at the last second (and before we start an argument of why the deal fell through: whether Baltimore backed out, or they couldn't get through to the league office because Jax was tying up the lines is irrelevant. The point is that it happened and the Vikings couldn't react because they had tried to push the negotiations too close to the deadline.) instead of just getting a good deal agreed to with a team and sticking with it.

 
The Dolphins, Raiders, and Titans were reportedly the 3 teams involved in the final bidding for Culpepper, according to Clayton.
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Titans are a brow raising team to be interested in Pepper. Guess they arent very high on Vinny? Thats a telling tale considering Tenn needs a young qb.
 
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The Dolphins, Raiders, and Titans were reportedly the 3 teams involved in the final bidding for Culpepper, according to Clayton.
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Titans are a brow raising team to be interested in Pepper. Guess they arent very high on Vinny? Thats a telling tale considering Tenn needs a young qb.
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But it isn't like QB is the ONLY area of need for the Titans...if they can get Culpepper cheap it would allow them to get another position in the draft. Volek isn't really the answer and McNair has a year (maybe)...might be a good fit.
 
Play McNair for his last year while Pepper heals up, draft Mario? I like it. Shoots our mocks to hell if Tenn gets Pepper and N.O. gets Brees, huh?

 
The Dolphins, Raiders, and Titans were reportedly the 3 teams involved in the final bidding for Culpepper, according to Clayton.
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:o Didn't they just re-sign both McNair and Volek?
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and interested in drafting Young?
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A young "qb of the future" I could see, but bringing in 'Pepper would probably mean getting rid of one of the others (and taking a cap hit), unless they just think Daunte's injured and won't be a factor until year.
 
The Dolphins, Raiders, and Titans were reportedly the 3 teams involved in the final bidding for Culpepper, according to Clayton.
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:o Didn't they just re-sign both McNair and Volek?
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and interested in drafting Young?
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A young "qb of the future" I could see, but bringing in 'Pepper would probably mean getting rid of one of the others (and taking a cap hit), unless they just think Daunte's injured and won't be a factor until year.
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Maybe Volek was part of the deal.
 
Can we please shelve our love and/or hate for PFT and try not to discuss it anytime they GUESS at something or post a RUMOR or whatever else. IT has gotten REALLY old.
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Well...
Profootballtalk has a rumor of . . .
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Please don't waste bandwidth, guy.
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[four-year old]...he started it!!!!

[/four-year old]

;)
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Geez, i was just jumping around last night trying to find a little info and I mentioned something about PFT saying something about CPepp going to the Rams, I dont believe I made a big deal out of it, just somethig I read, now we have people getting pissy all over the place!! :loco: just want this trade thing to get over with and see how bad we get kicked in the groin again. lighten up people...
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Man, I've got some serious problems being clear in this thread. I was referring to redman's unnecessary comment. Back on topic...Interesting if it was really that oakland backed out after they pushed negotiations to the last minute. I wonder if the Vikes kept shopping around trying to raise the price and the Raiders just got tired of it. If they did, it sounds a lot like the Leftwich draft a few years ago where the Vikings tried to keep raising the ante for their 1st rounder with jax and baltimore and waited so long that the thing fell through at the last second (and before we start an argument of why the deal fell through: whether Baltimore backed out, or they couldn't get through to the league office because Jax was tying up the lines is irrelevant. The point is that it happened and the Vikings couldn't react because they had tried to push the negotiations too close to the deadline.) instead of just getting a good deal agreed to with a team and sticking with it.
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What's funny is that my comment was actually a sarcastic jab at PFT, as if to say that telling us it's a PFT rumor is unnecessary and redundant. I :wub: you guys. Can't we all just get along?

 
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John Clayton just reported that the raiders and dolphins backed out becuase the Vikes are asking for a 2nd round pick for Culpepper.

Clayton also said that the unknown surprise team that was in on the bidding was actually the Tennessee Titans, but they weren't biting for a 2nd round pick either.

If a deal doesn't get done soon the Vikings may be stuck with him or they will have to lower their asking price too low to make it worth trading him.

 
If the Vikings can't get legitimate value for him they should keep him. I just don't follow the 'get rid of him at any cost' logic. There's obviously no market, contrary to the reports coming out of the propoganda dept at Winter Park. The guy is under a reasonable contract and forcing him to live up to it strikes me as a better solution than sending him off in a blue light special.

 
I dont see why they want to part from each other so bad.

I also dont see why a team that needs a QB, but not necissarily this season, wouldn't roll the dice on C-Pepp for a 2nd round pick. Teams are willing to spend a first rounder on a guy like Akili Smith but not on a guy like C-pepp who has proven he can play? I understand that he was awful last year and coming off of a knee injury but a second round pick isn't that big of a deal in my opinion, especially if it could land you a pro bowl QB with a little patience.

My first couple of thoughts were Tennessee and Dallas. They both have starters this season, so C-Pepp could fully heal and learn the system without being rushed. Tennessee would be the ideal situation in my opinion. Young team with some young talent at WR and they could grab D'brick with their pick.

Dallas is intriguing to me too. The Cowboys have no back up plan for Drew Bledsoe. Drew Henson may or may not ever see the field in the NFL again.

The Raiders have no one to start this season. The Dolphins and Saints are in the same boat so C-Pepp would be forced to start before he is ready.

 
John Clayton just reported that the raiders and dolphins backed out becuase the Vikes are asking for a 2nd round pick for Culpepper.

Clayton also said that the unknown surprise team that was in on the bidding was actually the Tennessee Titans, but they weren't biting for a 2nd round pick either.

If a deal doesn't get done soon the Vikings may be stuck with him or they will have to lower their asking price too low to make it worth trading him.
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If this is true, I think it indicates that the supposed Rams deal was bogus.
 
This posting on the Sun-Sentinel website by Alex Marvez supports Clayton's statement that the Dolphins are out of the CPep sweepstakes:

A source said Dolphins coach Nick Saban and General Manager Randy Mueller traveled to Birmingham, Ala. on Saturday morning to meet with Brees, who was scheduled to travel today to New Orleans. A private charter airplane registered to Dolphins owner H. Wayne Huizenga arrived in Birmingham from Fort Lauderdale this morning.
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John Clayton just reported that the raiders and dolphins backed out becuase the Vikes are asking for a 2nd round pick for Culpepper.

Clayton also said that the unknown surprise team that was in on the bidding was actually the Tennessee Titans, but they weren't biting for a 2nd round pick either.

If a deal doesn't get done soon the Vikings may be stuck with him or they will have to lower their asking price too low to make it worth trading him.
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If this is true, I think it indicates that the supposed Rams deal was bogus.
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That deal was completely bogus, I think it was a message board rumor and nothing more. I have yet to see or hear any info that says the Rams were involved at all in the discussion.
 
my guts say Culpepper ends up a Raider. fits his style plus Randy Moss will like that. lol

Brees a Saint. That leaves Collins or Brooks to Miami. My coin flip says Brooks. Collins could end up a Vicking or maybe a Packer if Favre retires.

 
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