League Fees for Commissioner? (1 Viewer)

[VA703]

In the commish and pay 100%. I even pay for the engraving every year

 

[Captain Hook]

I'm a commissioner, and I'm guessing that many of you posting here are not. I don't take any discounted fees, but to say we don't do anything is just flat out ignorant. It's certainly not hard work, but it is time-consuming. It takes hours of my time to organize the draft before the season, between all the emails and calls to set the date, then preparing the draft boards, ordering food, shopping for refreshments, etc. Then afterwards I have to input all the draft results on the site and input the schedules. During the season I don't have much to do other than arbitrate disputes, but after the season I have to chase down fees. pay the winners, get the trophy from the previous winner, have it engraved, ship it to the new winner. Some of you might at least acknowledge that if it seems like the commissioner has nothing to do, he's probably doing a pretty good job behind the scenes to make it seem that way.

Completely agree on this

BUT Commissioners should pay FULL entry/prize pool fees

Okay to cut them a break on fee to pay for the site or other fees that are not part of the prize pool

 

[Stoli]

everyone pays the same in our league. the only things our co-commishes do is try and skew the rules to benefit them.

I hear that.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

I don't mind pay or asking for partial discount for commissioner's time.

However, there are so many leagues out there that commissioner's blatantly copy/paste rules from elsewhere. And they themselves haven't even reviewed them. Whatsoever. You ask a question on the message board, you get some puzzling response. Or they discuss settings on the message board & they don't jive at all what's in the actual league rules themselves. I can see one or two things -- but seriously not at least half a dozen things that don't agree with the posted rules.

I joined a startup auction about a month ago. Wound up quitting before auction even started. It was a complete mess.Things just getting made up before the auction even began. No one had a clue what the actual rules were. I've been following it since and the league already almost disbanded (if it hasn't already). Commissioner complained it was too much work with all the issues that had come up & wanted to quit. Hope he learned his lesson. Take the time before you form the league to review your own rules. Really it's not much to ask. And it won't be the hassle it has become. This commissioner did ask for a discounted league fee/cut. I wouldn't pay a dime for it when it was a blatant copy/paste job from elsewhere & hadn't reviewed things. And as posted above, I have no issue giving a discount to commissioner whatsoever. If you've actually done some legwork.

 

[tls01]

Ours pays for the hosting site, about $30 less than the franchise fee and pays for transactions like everyone else.

Nothing wrong with that, ours is the same way.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Your commish struggling with the unanimous opinion on this 5 years later?

 

[rocketsauce]

I'm a commissioner of 2 leagues and would never dream of asking for any kind of kick back. Sure it is some extra work, but as the poll question says, it truly is a labor of love. You do it if you want -- if not, somebody else would probably be willing.

 

[FunkyTeaParty]

The commish of my 3rd league takes 15% off the top, but he also hosts an all day BBQ on draft day with a keg of beer, pulled pork, sausage and peppers among other things.

 

[DexterDew]

I don't mind pay or asking for partial discount for commissioner's time.

However, there are so many leagues out there that commissioner's blatantly copy/paste rules from elsewhere. And they themselves haven't even reviewed them. Whatsoever. You ask a question on the message board, you get some puzzling response. Or they discuss settings on the message board & they don't jive at all what's in the actual league rules themselves. I can see one or two things -- but seriously not at least half a dozen things that don't agree with the posted rules.

I joined a startup auction about a month ago. Wound up quitting before auction even started. It was a complete mess.Things just getting made up before the auction even began. No one had a clue what the actual rules were. I've been following it since and the league already almost disbanded (if it hasn't already). Commissioner complained it was too much work with all the issues that had come up & wanted to quit. Hope he learned his lesson. Take the time before you form the league to review your own rules. Really it's not much to ask. And it won't be the hassle it has become. This commissioner did ask for a discounted league fee/cut. I wouldn't pay a dime for it when it was a blatant copy/paste job from elsewhere & hadn't reviewed things. And as posted above, I have no issue giving a discount to commissioner whatsoever. If you've actually done some legwork.

I had a very, very similar experience. Literally don't know if the league is still going. Everyone loves the rush of a start up, but if you don't set it up properly it will lead to chaos.

I commish a couple dynasty leagues, and quite honestly, once the bylaws and league schedule is set up, it's not that much work (and I have never asked to be compensated in any way). The biggest headaches are keeping track of deposits over multiple years [re: accounting] oh, I HATE trying to find replacement owners.

 

[Adam Harstad]

I am the commish and I front the site fee and trophy engraving, but it is taken out of the pot at the end, with myself paying his equal share. No benefits just knowing that nobody is screwing you is worth the effort to me.

Yes to the bolded. I'm the commissioner in most of my leagues and I have never asked for a discount, nor would I take one if it were offered. Being commissioner actually leaves me at a slight disadvantage; I don't just have to avoid impropriety, I have to avoid the APPEARANCE of impropriety. Still, at the end of the day, it's worth it to know that I have a commissioner I can trust to act above-the-board. I've seen too many leagues ruined by commissioners ranging from merely inexperienced to outright corrupt, so if I care about a league, I'll gladly take on the extra work (which, as mentioned, usually doesn't amount to much with modern league management software).

 

[DexterDew]

I am the commish and I front the site fee and trophy engraving, but it is taken out of the pot at the end, with myself paying his equal share. No benefits just knowing that nobody is screwing you is worth the effort to me.

Yes to the bolded. I'm the commissioner in most of my leagues and I have never asked for a discount, nor would I take one if it were offered. Being commissioner actually leaves me at a slight disadvantage; I don't just have to avoid impropriety, I have to avoid the APPEARANCE of impropriety. Still, at the end of the day, it's worth it to know that I have a commissioner I can trust to act above-the-board. I've seen too many leagues ruined by commissioners ranging from merely inexperienced to outright corrupt, so if I care about a league, I'll gladly take on the extra work (which, as mentioned, usually doesn't amount to much with modern league management software).

+1

 

[Ruffrodys05]

I'm heading into my 12th year as commissioner/secretary of my league. From day one I have paid the same yearly dues, transaction fees and website fee as everyone else. I have never asked for a discount and have never been offered one. I have never been tipped. Occasionally one of the guys will thank me for my efforts. These are good enough rewards as far as I'm concerned.

There's a whole crapload of stuff going on behind the scenes that (most of the guys realize) I do to make the league the best it can be. Much of these things have already been mentioned here. I do it for the love of doing it. Sure, it's gotten annoying and frustrating, at times, over the years, but all-in-all it's fun for me and I enjoy it immensely.

I've always felt that a league which has a commish who plays for free, won't be a league for me.

 

[VA703]

The commish of my 3rd league takes 15% off the top, but he also hosts an all day BBQ on draft day with a keg of beer, pulled pork, sausage and peppers among other things.

now thats a good commish

 

[VA703]

I'm the Commish in 2 leagues and pay half the entry fee..it is a lot of work

is it really?

im the commish in 2 leagues. 1 live 1 online. with trophy engraving and keepers. it really isnt that much work

 

[Da Guru]

I commish a 14 team league and take nothing. Unlike the past with todays technology it takes very little effort to be a commish.

 

[KCitons]

The polls fail to take into consideration that there are a ton of different leagues. It seems like all the people that have never commished a league are on one side of this argument.

I've never taken a discount for running a league, but would consider it depending on the type of league.

I only play/commish in no league. Contract/Salary/IDP. In addition to entering salaries and contracts for every player (80 from draft, free agent auction, weekly adds) there are other sacrifices that people don't see. I spend as much time doing commish things as I do working on my own team.

Why do I do it? Because I couldn't find a league that had everything I wanted. I am open to some rule changes, but have made it clear if the other owners voted to change the league too much (like make it a 2 QB league), I would stop being a commish and find another league. So, I guess having a final say about how the league is run, could be construed as payment.

 

[Groundpounder]

That's what I figured most would say. In one of my leagues, the Commish continues to take a free entry fee. It's only $50, and I know he doesn't mean anything by it. It just seems odd nowadays, especially if he has a big net gain, as he did by finishing second last year. Bragging rights are worth far more than cash in this league. Oh, another thing, $6.50 of our fee goes toward the online site. So not only are we each paying our share of the site, we're paying his share and his fee. Our drop\add fees go toward draft materials, beer and food for the Auctioneers so it's not like he's contributing that way. What do you think about maybe approaching it through the Assistant Commish? Any ideas so that it doesn't create a mess of hard feelings? Is it worth bringing up or forget about it?

I don't know how you have hard feelings about this. You're a jerk if you charge your friends fees for fantasy. It's not any real work any more. Any commish who doesnt pay his share is a flat-out deadbeat. My take would be to tell your friend that you're insulted he's been stealing from you for years. If he's not embarrassed for being such a deadbeat and doesnt ante up right away, he's probably manipulating your rules and cheating here and there anyhow. Get out of that league and start your own, and run it right: by paying the same share as everyone else. Edited to add that I would be very, very suspicious that your commish is cheating. Nothing shady EVER happened around this commish? I'll be shocked if that's the case.

I actually take a $25 discount on a $100 league (not my rule and it's a rolling commish between volunteers). I see no problem with it. If it's so easy, why do 8 of the 12 members of this league not volunteer. Because they don't want to deal with it. Just because I enjoy fantasy football, doesn't mean I should have to coordinate the draft, handle rule changes, solve disputes, etc for 11 other guys that are too lazy to bother with it themselves. I'm sure if they had an issue with it, one of them would volunteer to do it for free.

 

[Groundpounder]

The polls fail to take into consideration that there are a ton of different leagues. It seems like all the people that have never commished a league are on one side of this argument.

I've never taken a discount for running a league, but would consider it depending on the type of league.

I only play/commish in no league. Contract/Salary/IDP. In addition to entering salaries and contracts for every player (80 from draft, free agent auction, weekly adds) there are other sacrifices that people don't see. I spend as much time doing commish things as I do working on my own team.

Why do I do it? Because I couldn't find a league that had everything I wanted. I am open to some rule changes, but have made it clear if the other owners voted to change the league too much (like make it a 2 QB league), I would stop being a commish and find another league. So, I guess having a final say about how the league is run, could be construed as payment.

Yeah, I commish a dynasty league with salary cap that you would have no problem taking a discount on. It's pretty much a 2nd job with how complicated the league is. We have to manage franchise tags, UFA auctions, RFA auctions, rookie draft, Final FA auction, etc. All salaries have to be entered by hand due to the actually salary being assigned by our league's draft position and contract years have to be set. On top of all that, because of how complicated the league is, there are a few owners that can't read the message board entries that I have to post regularly reminding them of rule changes and upcoming events and deal with. It's not easy. And anyone that runs multiple leagues will tell you that. Most people saying that being a commish is easy, are either not a commissioner or are running a cookie cutter league on yahoo.

 

[Groundpounder]

I'm heading into my 12th year as commissioner/secretary of my league. From day one I have paid the same yearly dues, transaction fees and website fee as everyone else. I have never asked for a discount and have never been offered one. I have never been tipped. Occasionally one of the guys will thank me for my efforts. These are good enough rewards as far as I'm concerned.

There's a whole crapload of stuff going on behind the scenes that (most of the guys realize) I do to make the league the best it can be. Much of these things have already been mentioned here. I do it for the love of doing it. Sure, it's gotten annoying and frustrating, at times, over the years, but all-in-all it's fun for me and I enjoy it immensely.

I've always felt that a league which has a commish who plays for free, won't be a league for me.

I don't agree with the commish playing for free but a %25 discount is a nice way to "tip" your commish for all his hard work. I can flip this around on all these people arguing this. What's up with the 11 other douchebags in your league that expect the same guy to run the league by himself for 12yrs in a row and not vote to give him a small discount or repay him in some other way.