League keeps changing the rules (1 Viewer)

[thejag]

So I joined a league this season with guys I don't know, but who turn out to be really good guys. Here's the problem: immediately after the draft, they decide that you can start 3 WR and a flex rather than 2 and a flex. I voted against it thinking you don't change the rules after the draft, but got shot down.

We had some funky D/ST scoring, -3 for any TD rushing or receiving against. No one like it obviously and everyone complained, but it always came down to "we'll change it next year." Acting accordingly, I drafted Pittsburgh more for PA than turnovers or special teams, etc. This week I dropped AZ in favor of NO figuring no way Dallas scores fewer TDs than Oakland.

Well, a poll went up on the site and instantly the scoring got changed: no announcement, no email, nothing. I up by .20 going into tonight and tomorrow, so those 2 TDs, 3 sacks and a FR would be real nice right now. But beyond that, it's the idea that rules can change at will during the year that has me irate.

Anyone go through this, and how was it handled?

Thanks

 

[Limp Ditka]

Shovel and lime solved this last time it happened in one of my leagues.

 

[relic]

unless you can get a rule passed stating "no rule changes during the season" best thing to do is just get out. Any rule changes should be done immediately after the season ends, before rookie drafts or anything else. To many good leagues out there to be stuck in one of these.

 

[TheGolfBallKid]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

 

[bentley]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

Maybe he was wanting the crime scene to smell fresh.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Rules in all leagues should be set in stone before the season starts..NO CHANGES!!! You paid for the rules stated before season started so do complain!

 

[Black]

unless you can get a rule passed stating "no rule changes during the season" best thing to do is just get out. Any rule changes should be done immediately after the season ends, before rookie drafts or anything else. To many good leagues out there to be stuck in one of these.

That's what we have in the rules.

 

[Magnus_CA]

Mid season rule changes should only occur if all owners unanimously vote to do so.

 

[KellysHeroes]

thats when u need someone like me in the league

 

[FFdork]

Yeah, I think it's pretty much common sense that no rule changes should occur in-season unless there is a unanimous vote. Might be a good group of guys but that's some bush league behavior by the commish.

 

[Marc Levin]

Yeah, I think it's pretty much common sense that no rule changes should occur in-season unless there is a unanimous vote. Might be a good group of guys but that's some bush league behavior by the commish.

Exactly - unless there is money committed here, this is a "quitable" offense. And you should quit unless rules are made static right now with no rule changes w/o unanimous approval - and I recommend you veto every rule change. Mid-season rule changes are bush league in just about every situation.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

When you've killed as much as I have, then you too can have a calling card. Until then, remember that a little lime in the grave is all mine.

 

[Ozymandias]

Pick the guy who voted with you for no rules changes, and trade him your best players.

Then flip them the finger, and walk away.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

So I joined a league this season with guys I don't know, but who turn out to be really good guys. Here's the problem: immediately after the draft, they decide that you can start 3 WR and a flex rather than 2 and a flex. I voted against it thinking you don't change the rules after the draft, but got shot down.We had some funky D/ST scoring, -3 for any TD rushing or receiving against. No one like it obviously and everyone complained, but it always came down to "we'll change it next year." Acting accordingly, I drafted Pittsburgh more for PA than turnovers or special teams, etc. This week I dropped AZ in favor of NO figuring no way Dallas scores fewer TDs than Oakland. Well, a poll went up on the site and instantly the scoring got changed: no announcement, no email, nothing. I up by .20 going into tonight and tomorrow, so those 2 TDs, 3 sacks and a FR would be real nice right now. But beyond that, it's the idea that rules can change at will during the year that has me irate.Anyone go through this, and how was it handled?Thanks

Not saying your good or bad at FF..but your a FBG member since April of 2003...don't you read about this stuff here (been posted galore thats for sure about these types of leagues). Pay attention to what is said here!

 

[NagurskiToKarr]

Pick the guy who voted with you for no rules changes, and trade him your best players.Then flip them the finger, and walk away.

This is actually a really tempting option.

 

[thejag]

So I joined a league this season with guys I don't know, but who turn out to be really good guys. Here's the problem: immediately after the draft, they decide that you can start 3 WR and a flex rather than 2 and a flex. I voted against it thinking you don't change the rules after the draft, but got shot down.We had some funky D/ST scoring, -3 for any TD rushing or receiving against. No one like it obviously and everyone complained, but it always came down to "we'll change it next year." Acting accordingly, I drafted Pittsburgh more for PA than turnovers or special teams, etc. This week I dropped AZ in favor of NO figuring no way Dallas scores fewer TDs than Oakland. Well, a poll went up on the site and instantly the scoring got changed: no announcement, no email, nothing. I up by .20 going into tonight and tomorrow, so those 2 TDs, 3 sacks and a FR would be real nice right now. But beyond that, it's the idea that rules can change at will during the year that has me irate.Anyone go through this, and how was it handled?Thanks

Not saying your good or bad at FF..but your a FBG member since April of 2003...don't you read about this stuff here (been posted galore thats for sure about these types of leagues). Pay attention to what is said here.

FYI--the commish posts here, so I wanted him to see this and understand that he made the wrong decision. Thanks for your input however.

 

[theplayer11]

changing rules any time after the draft is just idiotic and childish. This commish doesn't know what he is doing and you should find a league thatisn't a total joke

 

[hellz_fireflies]

About 12 years ago was in a league and won it all..1st place was $1000 plus the transaction fee's (trades /waiver wire) for the top winner. The commish already took out his money for running the league and software. Results I got only the $1000..he kept the transactions fee's which totaled over $1200...talk about changing rules!!! This guy was never seen again being a commish or even a owner of a team.

Forgot to say back in those years there wasn't even much software to invest in or internet sites...most had to buy USA TODAY on a monday morning for Sundays results and then on Tuesday for Monday nite football results and judge players that way. Also was both Offense players and IDP's back then..how times changed (easy these days).

 

[PoolShark]

The league I've been running for 11 years has only had one mid-season rule change, and that was to allow lineup changes up until every player's game start time, instead of locking all lineups at 1pm Sunday. A fairly minor rule really, and one that only effects a few situations weekly. Add/drops are still locked at 1pm, so you have to have an option already on your roster. I required a 3/4 majority vote for it to pass (this was 2 or 3 wks into the season) and it got exactly 9/12 yes votes & passed. For the record, all of the nay votes were made solely on the basis of "no rules should be changed in mid-season," even though all 3 owners actually liked the new rule (they just didn't think any rules should be changed at that point). I normally agree completely with that, buy since this rule didn't impact anything that an owner would have done to assemble his team, I was ok doing it.

I would NEVER even remotely consider ANY type of rule change that involves scoring, rosters or starting lineup constitution, because everyone drafted teams based on those rules & therefore rule changes like those HAVE TO favor some teams over others.

 

[[scooter]]

This week I dropped AZ in favor of NO figuring no way Dallas scores fewer TDs than Oakland. Well, a poll went up on the site and instantly the scoring got changed: no announcement, no email, nothing.

Did the poll go up before or after you acquired the New Orleans D/ST? Did you have time to alter your lineup to adjust to the new rules?I have no problem changing league rules midseason, as long as it's agreed by the majority (or, better yet, a super-majority) AND it's done at the very beginning of the week (before people set their lineups, do waivers, etc.).That said....you really should pay closer attention to what happens in the league.

 

[Synthesizer]

This week I dropped AZ in favor of NO figuring no way Dallas scores fewer TDs than Oakland.

Well, a poll went up on the site and instantly the scoring got changed: no announcement, no email, nothing.

Did the poll go up before or after you acquired the New Orleans D/ST? Did you have time to alter your lineup to adjust to the new rules?I have no problem changing league rules midseason, as long as it's agreed by the majority (or, better yet, a super-majority) AND it's done at the very beginning of the week (before people set their lineups, do waivers, etc.).

That said....you really should pay closer attention to what happens in the league.

No owner should be expected to check the league website every day just in case a bunch of rules start changing.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

So I joined a league this season with guys I don't know, but who turn out to be really good guys. Here's the problem: immediately after the draft, they decide that you can start 3 WR and a flex rather than 2 and a flex. I voted against it thinking you don't change the rules after the draft, but got shot down.We had some funky D/ST scoring, -3 for any TD rushing or receiving against. No one like it obviously and everyone complained, but it always came down to "we'll change it next year." Acting accordingly, I drafted Pittsburgh more for PA than turnovers or special teams, etc. This week I dropped AZ in favor of NO figuring no way Dallas scores fewer TDs than Oakland. Well, a poll went up on the site and instantly the scoring got changed: no announcement, no email, nothing. I up by .20 going into tonight and tomorrow, so those 2 TDs, 3 sacks and a FR would be real nice right now. But beyond that, it's the idea that rules can change at will during the year that has me irate.Anyone go through this, and how was it handled?Thanks

what rule change discounted all those things for your D?But that is bs.

 

[burd]

Rules in all leagues should be set in stone before the season starts..NO CHANGES!!! You paid for the rules stated before season started so do complain!

i agree ... totally bush league. If it's a "free league", then it doesn't matter, but why someone would play FF w/ nothing to play for, i.e. $$, is beyond me. You and everyone else in the league paid good money (im assuming) and id be very wary about why things are being changed after the draft or heaven forbid during the season. If your foolish enough to return next year, demand rules ON PAPER atleast 1 month before the draft. Rule changes need to be voted on before the rules are sent out ...... this is how the big boys play.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

teams are drafted based on scoring systems. Once the teams are in place, there should be no scoring changes for any reason. Even votes shouldnt be allowed because you know that some team will be totally screwed and that shouldnt happen just because a majority agree to screw that/those teams.

 

[NYRAGE]

I run 3 leagues, but made the mistake of joining a 4th league with only one guy that I knew. The Commissioner changed the rules a couple of times after the draft & season started (rules that drastically altered how we would have drafted). Despite making many valid points that we shouldn't' make the changes, the Commissioner went ahead and changed them anyway.

I was pretty pissed and thought about bailing, but it wouldn't have mattered. They wouldn't have cared if I had quit. In the end I decided to play it out. Try to take their money and leave the league as soon as we're done.

 

[EaglesNest]

So I joined a league this season with guys I don't know, but who turn out to be really good guys. Here's the problem: immediately after the draft, they decide that you can start 3 WR and a flex rather than 2 and a flex. I voted against it thinking you don't change the rules after the draft, but got shot down.We had some funky D/ST scoring, -3 for any TD rushing or receiving against. No one like it obviously and everyone complained, but it always came down to "we'll change it next year." Acting accordingly, I drafted Pittsburgh more for PA than turnovers or special teams, etc. This week I dropped AZ in favor of NO figuring no way Dallas scores fewer TDs than Oakland. Well, a poll went up on the site and instantly the scoring got changed: no announcement, no email, nothing. I up by .20 going into tonight and tomorrow, so those 2 TDs, 3 sacks and a FR would be real nice right now. But beyond that, it's the idea that rules can change at will during the year that has me irate.Anyone go through this, and how was it handled?Thanks

That is a sucky league. Nothing you can do except to just get out.

 

[inca911]

From our rules:

Change of Rules

Any current Owner may propose changes to the league rules at the end of the league’s season. The league will discuss the change, and then vote following the same process as the Change of Owners vote (see above). The person proposing the rule change does not vote in the process, and is not considered in the 75% calculation. A Change of Rules is also permissible during the course of the league’s season, but requires unanimous approval.

 

[CLIFF]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

No I'm quite certain he is correct see Quicklime ---- If he meant Lye he may have been making soap to clean up the league.(See Fight Club)

It has traditionally been used in the burial of bodies in open graves, to hide the smell of decomposition, as well as in forensic science, to reveal fingerprints. It is a refractory and a dehydrating agent and is used to purify citric acid, glucose, dyes and as a CO2 absorber. It is also used in pottery, paints and the food industry. Furthermore, quicklime is used in epidemics, plagues, and disasters to disintegrate bodies in order to help fight the spread of disease. CaO is a key ingredient in the nixtamalization process used to create corn hominy and masa or tortilla dough.

If you plan on correcting someone you should be correct yourself.

 

[glumpy]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

Maybe he was wanting the crime scene to smell fresh.

Maybe lime is good for pushing up the daisies.eta lol--WAY late on that guess!! Good one Cliff

 

[JamesTheScot]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

Maybe he was wanting the crime scene to smell fresh.

No, he meant lime...as in calcium oxide."Quick lime is used for the covering of decomposing organic matters in order to avoid putrefaction smells and attraction of flies and various type scavengers. On corpses: If deep burial is not possible, first spread quick lime in the pit, then place the corpse and cover it with quick lime (1kg of lime per 10kg of corpse weight). Waste dumps: If covering with earth or incineration are impossible, spread quick lime at regular intervals."Friends help you move.Best friends help you move bodies.I'm just saying...

 

[jscout]

Forgot to say back in those years there wasn't even much software to invest in or internet sites...most had to buy USA TODAY on a monday morning for Sundays results and then on Tuesday for Monday nite football results and judge players that way. Also was both Offense players and IDP's back then..how times changed (easy these days).

Ah the good old days. Back in those days you could spot a fantasy footballer from a mile away, USA Today in hand compiling stats. The funniest sight for me was at the airport terminal on a Monday morning seeing a line of guys, some suits and some casual, all combing through the USA Today sports section and scribbling on a notepad or typing on a clunky notebook computer. There must have been 8-10 guys. Stats central.Anyway back on topic. There should be no rules changes that affect scoring, EVER! Rules clarification or rules that affect policy, maybe, if it's for the good of the league. But scoring and therefore drafting? HELL NO!I hope your commish sees this thread and comes to his senses.

 

[Topes]

Such rule changes should not happen in-season.

Rule changes are done for the dumbest of reasons. So often, for fairness (somebody whined, because he wasn't prepared).

I was actually in a dynasty league once, started off these very boards with a bunch of regulars. The rules changed too much, IMO. Each rule change retroactively reconfigured all past transactions. I got my team in order, wished them luck, and bailed.

Personally, the time to bail was right after they went 3-wide + flex.

 

[Topes]

Curious. Did the defensive scoring change go retroactive?

That could cause some more issues.

 

[Wu-banger]

Im just glad you guys corrected the correction police of the lime vs lye misunderstanding

 

[FantasyTrader]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

No I'm quite certain he is correct see Quicklime ---- If he meant Lye he may have been making soap to clean up the league.(See Fight Club)

It has traditionally been used in the burial of bodies in open graves, to hide the smell of decomposition, as well as in forensic science, to reveal fingerprints. It is a refractory and a dehydrating agent and is used to purify citric acid, glucose, dyes and as a CO2 absorber. It is also used in pottery, paints and the food industry. Furthermore, quicklime is used in epidemics, plagues, and disasters to disintegrate bodies in order to help fight the spread of disease. CaO is a key ingredient in the nixtamalization process used to create corn hominy and masa or tortilla dough.

If you plan on correcting someone you should be correct yourself.

I'll bet you really know how to party.

 

[CLIFF]

I'm quite certain you meant lye, not lime. Regardless, I concur.

Maybe he was wanting the crime scene to smell fresh.

Maybe lime is good for pushing up the daisies.eta lol--WAY late on that guess!! Good one Cliff

You were only an hour and 28 minutes late with this one but at least you were accurate.Thank you Glumpy and Yes I do FantasyTraderJust ask Project Mayhem about the lye though I'm sure he is the expert!