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LeRon McClain - get your offers/claims in now (1 Viewer)

Sigmund Bloom

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Hey folks - subscribers already know this from this week's Buy Low Sell High, but Ive been growing more and more convinced on this one by the moment, so I wanted to share it with the pool.

LeRon McClain should be a trade target in every league, especially non-PPR leagues, especially, especially TD heavy leagues.

1) Baltimore is still one of the best running teams in the league, line got even better with addition of Oher.

2) McClain if anything looks even better than last year. Just as powerful with a little burst for a BIG man, but even showing some elusiveness in the open field and soft hands

3) Cam Cameron is back to his "whatever back fits in the gameplan best" ways. McClain could be that guy this week, slamming a buy low window on your fingers.

4) McGahee gets dinged. That means missed touches/series in a game, time on injury reports, and missed games. McClain's value shoots through the roof when this happens, and it will. McGahee owners should be getting trade offers out en masse with the terrific matchup vs. Cleveland this week.

5) The staff really leaned on McClain later in the season in 08. Even when McGahee was healthy (well, for McGahee), McClain got the lion's share of the carries for the last four games of the season. Holding McClain just for that stretch is worth it unless your bench is really shallow.

Situation: check

Talent: check

Track Record: check

Potential for major value growth: check

McClain was already a double digit round pick, and he's even starting to get dropped in some leagues. Act now before McClain reminds everyone how valuable he was down the stretch last year - with five TDs in the last six games, and no game below 60 yards in that span.

 
I really like your enthusiasm, but who plays fullback if McClain is getting the handoffs? Someone will have to if McClain is getting 15+ touches a game (to be fantasy worthy).

 
Bloom, are you predicting injury here? So far McClain's been less than an afterthought, even in short yardage. As a McClain owner in several leagues I'd like to believe you, but I'm having a hard time thinking McClain is on the verge of a mini-blow up.

If you're strapped for RBs due to injuries is McClain a starter this week over mid-tier guys (like Jamal Lewis, Larry Johnson, Addai/Donald Brown, Thomas Jones, etc.)?

 
Sig, I could be totally wrong, but the only way he gets involved is injury to Rice or McGahee. If you are predicting injury, then I'll buy it (I guess you are, since that seems to be #4). But McGahee looks far too good right now to assume he won't be a big part of this offense. Rice is the play in PPR, and McGahee is close behind in that format and well ahead in TD leagues and standard scoring.

I just don't see McClain, short of an injury to another back, being worthy of that much consideration.

 
Sig, I could be totally wrong, but the only way he gets involved is injury to Rice or McGahee. If you are predicting injury, then I'll buy it (I guess you are, since that seems to be #4). But McGahee looks far too good right now to assume he won't be a big part of this offense. Rice is the play in PPR, and McGahee is close behind in that format and well ahead in TD leagues and standard scoring. I just don't see McClain, short of an injury to another back, being worthy of that much consideration.
i'd have to agree on this. seems to me mcgahee stole his starting job back from rice in the first two games, rice's carries went from 19 in game one to 8 in game two. mcgahee is on fire right now, so i guess i understand your point barring a mcgahee injury (given his past, its seems almost likely he will get injured, but who knows). if he does get injured though, doesn't it just mean that rice will take over and mcclain stays at FB?
 
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I know you mention on Thursday podcast in advice to me to try and snag him.

I noticed on this weeks waivers for my league that his owner was ready to drop him but it never came to that as he was outbid.

He wanted Mike Sims-Walker but was outbid. I'm going to try and swing a trade for him.

What do you put his trade value at in a 12 team non ppr?

The guy I'm most willing to part with is Avery (this guy wants WR).

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QB's: Garrard, Schaub

RB's: Steven Jackson, Willie Parker, Donald Brown, Leon WAshington, Tim Hightower, Earnest Graham, Justin Forsett

WR's: Calvin Johnson, OchoCinco, Dwayne Bowe, Lee Evans, Donnie Avery, Laurent Robinson, Mike Sims-Walker

K: Tynes

D: Packers

 
It seems like everyone, everywhere is down on McGahee. The guy was a first round pick with alot of talent, appears to be the current goalline back, has gotten more carries than Rice up to this point, and even is being involved in the passing game. Why aren't people suggesting trading Rice while he is still perceived to be the lead back further in the season? McGahee is currently a top 5 back through 2 games. Why is everyone so convinced he is going to just go away?

 
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McClain will only have value again if the Ravens' re-sign Lorenzo Neal.

Considering that he's been on the market for over a month that doesn't seem to be a priority. Especially with Baltimore axing Jason Cook.

I think you're buying too heavily into the idea that Fast Willy will get hurt again.

 
While the odds of either Rice or McGahee getting hurt are high, unless its a major injury, McClain wont have many weeks of production and whatever production he gets will be limited by the remainder of the commitee.

Its not last year. Flacco is a solid QB this year. The line is able to pass protect this year. They wont run the same power formation that McClain excelled in last year very much this year. They arent trying to protect Flacco, they are trying to take advantage of his arm.

 
Hey folks - subscribers already know this from this week's Buy Low Sell High, but Ive been growing more and more convinced on this one by the moment, so I wanted to share it with the pool.

LeRon McClain should be a trade target in every league, especially non-PPR leagues, especially, especially TD heavy leagues.

1) Baltimore is still one of the best running teams in the league, line got even better with addition of Oher.

2) McClain if anything looks even better than last year. Just as powerful with a little burst for a BIG man, but even showing some elusiveness in the open field and soft hands

3) Cam Cameron is back to his "whatever back fits in the gameplan best" ways. McClain could be that guy this week, slamming a buy low window on your fingers.

4) McGahee gets dinged. That means missed touches/series in a game, time on injury reports, and missed games. McClain's value shoots through the roof when this happens, and it will. McGahee owners should be getting trade offers out en masse with the terrific matchup vs. Cleveland this week.

5) The staff really leaned on McClain later in the season in 08. Even when McGahee was healthy (well, for McGahee), McClain got the lion's share of the carries for the last four games of the season. Holding McClain just for that stretch is worth it unless your bench is really shallow.

Situation: check

Talent: check

Track Record: check

Potential for major value growth: check

McClain was already a double digit round pick, and he's even starting to get dropped in some leagues. Act now before McClain reminds everyone how valuable he was down the stretch last year - with five TDs in the last six games, and no game below 60 yards in that span.
oooh wait. I got it.. haha good one! :fro:

 
Sig, I could be totally wrong, but the only way he gets involved is injury to Rice or McGahee. If you are predicting injury, then I'll buy it (I guess you are, since that seems to be #4). But McGahee looks far too good right now to assume he won't be a big part of this offense. Rice is the play in PPR, and McGahee is close behind in that format and well ahead in TD leagues and standard scoring. I just don't see McClain, short of an injury to another back, being worthy of that much consideration.
i'd have to agree on this. seems to me mcgahee stole his starting job back from rice in the first two games, rice's carries went from 19 in game one to 8 in game two. mcgahee is on fire right now, so i guess i understand your point barring a mcgahee injury (given his past, its seems almost likely he will get injured, but who knows). if he does get injured though, doesn't it just mean that rice will take over and mcclain stays at FB?
Has McGahee really "stole his starting job back from Rice"? Rice: 27 carries; 144 yards; 5.3 ypc; 7 recpetions for 58 McGahee: 25 carries; 123 yards; 4.9 ypc; 3 TDs; 6 receptions for 41 yardsMcGahee has more TDs and has had the scoring opps, but Rice has run better over all. Why would they change anything? Looks like Rice is the guy between the 20s and McGahee is the scoring back and late game back. Can a guy who is getting 5.3 yards per carry and doing everything else asked of him well lose his job? I just think that last week's matchup favored McGahee and we will see Cam going with the hot hand between these two week to week. McClain? 10 carries for 31 yards does not excite me. I just have not seen the burst that Sig is talking about and I have watched the games.
 
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Sig, I could be totally wrong, but the only way he gets involved is injury to Rice or McGahee. If you are predicting injury, then I'll buy it (I guess you are, since that seems to be #4). But McGahee looks far too good right now to assume he won't be a big part of this offense. Rice is the play in PPR, and McGahee is close behind in that format and well ahead in TD leagues and standard scoring. I just don't see McClain, short of an injury to another back, being worthy of that much consideration.
i'd have to agree on this. seems to me mcgahee stole his starting job back from rice in the first two games, rice's carries went from 19 in game one to 8 in game two. mcgahee is on fire right now, so i guess i understand your point barring a mcgahee injury (given his past, its seems almost likely he will get injured, but who knows). if he does get injured though, doesn't it just mean that rice will take over and mcclain stays at FB?
Has McGahee really "stole his starting job back from Rice"? Rice: 27 carries; 144 yards; 5.3 ypc; 7 recpetions for 58 McGahee: 25 carries; 123 yards; 4.9 ypc; 3 TDs; 6 receptions for 41 yardsMcGahee has more TDs and has had the scoring opps, but Rice has run better over all. Why would they change anything? Looks like Rice is the guy between the 20s and McGahee is the scoring back and late game back.McClain? 10 carries for 31 yards does not excite me. I just have not seen the burst that Sig is talking about and I have watched the games.
Right...way too small a sample size (2 whole games) for people to start making calls about rest of season. 2 games from now it could be totally different, esp. if Rice picks up and gets a TD.
 
Sig, I could be totally wrong, but the only way he gets involved is injury to Rice or McGahee. If you are predicting injury, then I'll buy it (I guess you are, since that seems to be #4). But McGahee looks far too good right now to assume he won't be a big part of this offense. Rice is the play in PPR, and McGahee is close behind in that format and well ahead in TD leagues and standard scoring.

I just don't see McClain, short of an injury to another back, being worthy of that much consideration.
i'd have to agree on this. seems to me mcgahee stole his starting job back from rice in the first two games, rice's carries went from 19 in game one to 8 in game two. mcgahee is on fire right now, so i guess i understand your point barring a mcgahee injury (given his past, its seems almost likely he will get injured, but who knows). if he does get injured though, doesn't it just mean that rice will take over and mcclain stays at FB?
Has McGahee really "stole his starting job back from Rice"? Rice: 27 carries; 144 yards; 5.3 ypc; 7 recpetions for 58

McGahee: 25 carries; 123 yards; 4.9 ypc; 3 TDs; 6 receptions for 41 yards

McGahee has more TDs and has had the scoring opps, but Rice has run better over all. Why would they change anything? Looks like Rice is the guy between the 20s and McGahee is the scoring back and late game back.

McClain? 10 carries for 31 yards does not excite me. I just have not seen the burst that Sig is talking about and I have watched the games.
Neither back has run better than the other, your stats indicate that. But with McGahee getting the goal line opps, that's where the difference has been thus far.
 
I think its more of a stretch to predict McGahee stays healthy all 16 than predict that he gets hurt at this point in his career when you look at his recent history.

I also believe people are underestimating Cam's willingness to unveil a game plan for any particular game that uses McClain more.

All I'm saying is that McClain is dead to a lot of fantasy players right now, and there are a lot of different scenarios that could unfold and make him a very valuable player to own.

Of course, if you are in a 16 man roster, McClain has little value to you right now. But in 20 man or deeper rosters, or in dynasty leagues (McGahee probably won't be a Raven next year), this is time to strike. Very few players that are regarded so lightly by fantasy GMs right now have the intersection of talent, situation, and proven track record that McClain has.

 
McClain? 10 carries for 31 yards does not excite me. I just have not seen the burst that Sig is talking about and I have watched the games.
I'm not saying McClain has left anyone in the dust, just that in the open field (which has mainly been his receptions) he does not look like a plodder,His low yards per carry is at least in part because he's got a lot of short yardage carries - he's got eight carries with three yards or less to go, and he has converted first downs on seven of those carries.
 
I think its more of a stretch to predict McGahee stays healthy all 16 than predict that he gets hurt at this point in his career when you look at his recent history.I also believe people are underestimating Cam's willingness to unveil a game plan for any particular game that uses McClain more. All I'm saying is that McClain is dead to a lot of fantasy players right now, and there are a lot of different scenarios that could unfold and make him a very valuable player to own.Of course, if you are in a 16 man roster, McClain has little value to you right now. But in 20 man or deeper rosters, or in dynasty leagues (McGahee probably won't be a Raven next year), this is time to strike. Very few players that are regarded so lightly by fantasy GMs right now have the intersection of talent, situation, and proven track record that McClain has.
I don't disagree with a lot of what you are saying. I guess if you are predicting an injury for McGahee soon, McClain is the guy you want to grab. However, seeing as I drafted McGahee extremely late, I am not about to pick up McClain, too, and try to mess with that situation should it arise. Especially on my 16 man roster.
 
It seems like everyone, everywhere is down on McGahee. The guy was a first round pick with alot of talent, appears to be the current goalline back, has gotten more carries than Rice up to this point, and even is being involved in the passing game. Why aren't people suggesting trading Rice while he is still perceived to be the lead back further in the season? McGahee is currently a top 5 back through 2 games. Why is everyone so convinced he is going to just go away?
All the threads/podcasts pooped on McGahee heavily and fawned over Rice in the offseason. Talking up McClain now is a gambit to save face if he becomes startable.(Kidding, somewhat.)
 
Just offered up Andre Johnson, waiting anxiously for response. /sharkmove :confused:
Why post this garbage? What does it add? And from someone who joined in 03, no less. For those of you questioning Bloom's intentions or thoughts on this, in a league I'm in with him, he just went out and bought McClain at a relatively cheap price (3rd round pick and James Casey), so he's "practicing what he's preaching". While I may not agree with his overall assessment of the Baltimore running game, the fact is that McClain is DIRT CHEAP right now and COULD see a significant rise in value if an injury befalls either Rice or McGahee. We all invest in backups like Chester, Norwood, J. Charles, etc. This is nothing but the same thing. In fact, I bet most would consider Shonn Greene as worth much more and he's nothing but the #3 RB in a very similar situation but playing behind more durable RBs (per history) and proven less. If you don't agree, which obviously many of you don't, then avoid the situation. But why come in and crap all over the place when Bloom, who contributes an amazing amount to this place, comes in and is trying to bring up a very valid option that is quite obscure and COULD offer a lot of benefit.
 
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Yawn.

Predicting an injury? Come on man. Mcgahee has looked like a beast. The guy is in sick shape this season. That is the only way Leron gets work...injury.

I have no room for pipe dreams on my roster.

 
Yawn.Predicting an injury? Come on man. Mcgahee has looked like a beast. The guy is in sick shape this season. That is the only way Leron gets work...injury.I have no room for pipe dreams on my roster.
Not just predicting injury. There will be games when Cam will make more use of McClain's power. They obviously have some regard for the guy, they're getting him 6-8 touches a game with Rice and McGahee both getting a ton of snaps.I just want to know what RBs on waivers have the potential that McClain has. This thread pretty much proves the point that made me want to start it - people are lumping McClain in with a bunch of seemingly worthless backups/3rd stringers, when he has more potential and proven value than that.
 
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Bloom, In all your posts, Rice is not mentioned at all.Any reason?
:headbang:I was thinking the same thing. If McGahee gets injured, I'd expect Rice's value to go through the roof. McClain's value would also go up, but it's not clear to me that he'd become a startable fantasy player in that scenario if Rice is still healthy.
 
Yawn.Predicting an injury? Come on man. Mcgahee has looked like a beast. The guy is in sick shape this season. That is the only way Leron gets work...injury.I have no room for pipe dreams on my roster.
Question for you:Do you own any backup RB's on your roster? If so, who and why?Either way, I'm quite sure Bloom isn't PREDICTING an injury and stating McClain will have value. He's stating IN THE EVENT of an injury, McClain's value could skyrocket. Considering how often injuries happen in the NFL, that's not a huge stretch to think it's quite possible one or both of McGahee/Rice may miss some time this year. About 50% of RB's do over the course of a season, even when they're in good shape.
 
I just want to know what RBs on waivers have the potential that McClain has. This thread pretty much proves the point that made me want to start it - people are lumping McClain in with a bunch of seemingly worthless backups/3rd stringers, when he has more potential and proven value than that.
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I agree Sig. I have Willis, and I consider McClain HIS backup.

Great call!

I am hoping to add him Sunday because some dummy dropped him yesterday...

 
Bloom, In all your posts, Rice is not mentioned at all.Any reason?
:headbang:I was thinking the same thing. If McGahee gets injured, I'd expect Rice's value to go through the roof. McClain's value would also go up, but it's not clear to me that he'd become a startable fantasy player in that scenario if Rice is still healthy.
For whatever reason, they won't let Rice take goal line carries. I think we've seen Rice's value - RB2/Flex with a PPR bump. Rice will have some big games this year because he's always threatening a big play, but they don't seem willing to let him be a workhorse like he was at Rutgers. If Rice gets GL carries in any McGahee absence, obviously he's an instant top 10 back, but I havent see reason to believe it would happen yet (and it disappoints me, because I think he can do just fine in short yardage)
 
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Yawn.Predicting an injury? Come on man. Mcgahee has looked like a beast. The guy is in sick shape this season. That is the only way Leron gets work...injury.I have no room for pipe dreams on my roster.
Not just predicting injury. There will be games when Cam will make more use of McClain's power. They obviously have some regard for the guy, they're getting him 6-8 touches a game with Rice and McGahee both getting a ton of snaps.I just want to know what RBs on waivers have the potential that McClain has. This thread pretty much proves the point that made me want to start it - people are lumping McClain in with a bunch of seemingly worthless backups/3rd stringers, when he has more potential and proven value than that.
Maybe you're right - I just don't think that McCLain will see consistent value without injury. I do agree in that there are bound to be games where he does well, but I do not think it will be easy to predict those games. Actually, it's the reason I am not starting (and haven't started) McGahee yet. I don't feel comfortable putting him in there over SJax and Grant, despite the fact I should have. I dont have a good feel yet on the committee.
 
Yawn.Predicting an injury? Come on man. Mcgahee has looked like a beast. The guy is in sick shape this season. That is the only way Leron gets work...injury.I have no room for pipe dreams on my roster.
Not just predicting injury. There will be games when Cam will make more use of McClain's power. They obviously have some regard for the guy, they're getting him 6-8 touches a game with Rice and McGahee both getting a ton of snaps.I just want to know what RBs on waivers have the potential that McClain has. This thread pretty much proves the point that made me want to start it - people are lumping McClain in with a bunch of seemingly worthless backups/3rd stringers, when he has more potential and proven value than that.
I agree that McClain could step in and contribute FF-wise, but I don't see where his situation is dramatically better than lots of other quality backup RBs...E.g., Choice, Coffee, Forsett, M. Moore...
 
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Bloom, In all your posts, Rice is not mentioned at all.Any reason?
:bag:I was thinking the same thing. If McGahee gets injured, I'd expect Rice's value to go through the roof. McClain's value would also go up, but it's not clear to me that he'd become a startable fantasy player in that scenario if Rice is still healthy.
For whatever reason, they won't let Rice take goal line carries. I think we've seen Rice's value - RB2/Flex with a PPR bump. Rice will have some big games this year because he's always threatening a big play, but they don't seem willing to let him be a workhorse like he was at Rutgers. If Rice gets GL carries in any McGahee absence, obviously he's an instant top 10 back, but I havent see reason to believe it would happen yet (and it disappoints me, because I think he can do just fine in short yardage)
On the season, Rice has 2 carries inside the opponent's 9 yard line vs. 1 for McClain. :shrug:McGahee has 7 carries inside the 9. You are assuming that McClain would assume that role over Rice if McGahee were hurt, but IMO it's unclear if that is the case.
 
While 90% of the posters want to criticize you for posting this, I am glad you did post it. Made me stop and think. We could all talk about New Orleans' RB's some more, or we could discuss a spec play about a player who is available on most waiver wires.

Thanks, Sigmund.

 
Bloom, In all your posts, Rice is not mentioned at all.Any reason?
:bag:I was thinking the same thing. If McGahee gets injured, I'd expect Rice's value to go through the roof. McClain's value would also go up, but it's not clear to me that he'd become a startable fantasy player in that scenario if Rice is still healthy.
For whatever reason, they won't let Rice take goal line carries. I think we've seen Rice's value - RB2/Flex with a PPR bump. Rice will have some big games this year because he's always threatening a big play, but they don't seem willing to let him be a workhorse like he was at Rutgers. If Rice gets GL carries in any McGahee absence, obviously he's an instant top 10 back, but I havent see reason to believe it would happen yet (and it disappoints me, because I think he can do just fine in short yardage)
On the season, Rice has 2 carries inside the opponent's 9 yard line vs. 1 for McClain. :shrug:McGahee has 7 carries inside the 9. You are assuming that McClain would assume that role over Rice if McGahee were hurt, but IMO it's unclear if that is the case.
That's a good point to bring up, and in fact, McClain's one was as a fullback, not a tailback. I dont know if McClain would exclusively get GL carries if McGahee went out, but the fact that the preponderence of McClain's carries to date have come in short yardage situations sure seems to point in that direction. The brute fact remains that McClain is a terrific short yardage back.
 
Something else to think about that no one has really refuted/addressed is the way the coaches decided to hitch the wagon in McClain in December last year. While it's far from a sure thing that they will do that again this year, the fact that the did it last year at least makes it possible that McClain reprises his late season closer role from last year.

 
Yawn.Predicting an injury? Come on man. Mcgahee has looked like a beast. The guy is in sick shape this season. That is the only way Leron gets work...injury.I have no room for pipe dreams on my roster.
Question for you:Do you own any backup RB's on your roster? If so, who and why?Either way, I'm quite sure Bloom isn't PREDICTING an injury and stating McClain will have value. He's stating IN THE EVENT of an injury, McClain's value could skyrocket. Considering how often injuries happen in the NFL, that's not a huge stretch to think it's quite possible one or both of McGahee/Rice may miss some time this year. About 50% of RB's do over the course of a season, even when they're in good shape.
Intelligent perspective expressed intelligently, by folks like Bloom and yourself, are the very reason I've lurked on this site for YEARS. How many times do you have to see a situation repeat itself before you say to yourself "man, if I grab him now and the PROBABLE injury happens, I've got a #1 back for the stretch... FOR ALMOST NOTHING!!!" It's not a freaking prediction, it's a calculated value play that potentially pays off with a "perfect storm". In other words, it's the kind of insight you're here at this sight for in the first place, even if you've already been whispering the same thing to yourself. The fact that a guy with a rep to begin with is willing to stick it out there should peek your interest, and more. These kind of early-season plays reap championships. Carry on, and thanks Sig and Co.!!!
 
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While 90% of the posters want to criticize you for posting this, I am glad you did post it. Made me stop and think. We could all talk about New Orleans' RB's some more, or we could discuss a spec play about a player who is available on most waiver wires. Thanks, Sigmund.
I don't see any criticizing about making the post, I just see people questioning whether anything has dramatically changed to make McClain a better pickup now than he has been up to this point.He's definitely a great player to stash on your roster if you have the room... in the right situation, he could get a lot of playing time and would likely do well with it.There are several other RBs that also fit that description.
 
I gave up Burleson for him in my PPR Dynasty, mostly because I have Rice and because as Bloom noted, McGahee will be gone next year and who knows what will happen. It seems like a good piece of insurance to have for the future and I had picked Burleson up off waivers last week. I wouldn't give up much in a redraft though.

 
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Not many possible December RBs floating around there these days. Worth the shot, although I was planning on dropping him this week.

 
Not many possible December RBs floating around there these days. Worth the shot, although I was planning on dropping him this week.
Wk14 Det is nice, but wk 15 Chi and wk 16 @ Pit leave something to be desired. But Ravens do seem to like the strength play, and certainly have a score to even with the Steelers. Definitely manageable.
 
He's definitely a great player to stash on your roster if you have the room... in the right situation, he could get a lot of playing time and would likely do well with it.There are several other RBs that also fit that description.
The stash point is why I created this thread. He was just dropped in our staff league, which has 22 man rosters, so that was an indicator to me that his perceived value has bottomed out, well below his actual value.I don't know about several - as far as backs that might be available on waivers/for a song:Forsett, Choice, and MMoore are good calls, already mentioned.APeterson and Snelling are interesting ones that are available in most leagues. I'll think on this more and create a better list
 
He's definitely a great player to stash on your roster if you have the room... in the right situation, he could get a lot of playing time and would likely do well with it.There are several other RBs that also fit that description.
The stash point is why I created this thread. He was just dropped in our staff league, which has 22 man rosters, so that was an indicator to me that his perceived value has bottomed out, well below his actual value.I don't know about several - as far as backs that might be available on waivers/for a song:Forsett, Choice, and MMoore are good calls, already mentioned.APeterson and Snelling are interesting ones that are available in most leagues. I'll think on this more and create a better list
The late saeason Pit matchups got me thinking (no, I didn't sprain anything important)... you think the Ravens staff is intentionally maximizing mcGahee's value, while at the same time saving their "Bettis" for the muck-matches with the Steelers?
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Something else to think about that no one has really refuted/addressed is the way the coaches decided to hitch the wagon in McClain in December last year. While it's far from a sure thing that they will do that again this year, the fact that the did it last year at least makes it possible that McClain reprises his late season closer role from last year.
Bloom,Cam Cameron has "hitched his wagon" to all 3 RBs. He will play any and all of them based solely upon that week's matchups and whichever situations that he and the rest of the staff believe will give them success.While I agree that McClain has the POTENTIAL to contribute, it is far from a certainty.This is analogous IMHO to saying "go get Tashard Choice" before the season, a position both you and I took. The track record and potential given the opportunity are there for both but neither is a given.As for your lament that Rice isn't getting GL carries, McGahee has proven very effective down there and it also has the added benefit of spelling Rice to save him for other work. It isn't an indictment of Rice's role but rather a role that has been carved out for McGahee that also gives Rice a break. The debate could easily be one of "if and when McGahee gets hurt, will Rice take over or will it be McClain?"
 
He's definitely a great player to stash on your roster if you have the room... in the right situation, he could get a lot of playing time and would likely do well with it.There are several other RBs that also fit that description.
The stash point is why I created this thread. He was just dropped in our staff league, which has 22 man rosters, so that was an indicator to me that his perceived value has bottomed out, well below his actual value.I don't know about several - as far as backs that might be available on waivers/for a song:Forsett, Choice, and MMoore are good calls, already mentioned.APeterson and Snelling are interesting ones that are available in most leagues. I'll think on this more and create a better list
Full disclosure - that was my "drop", and it is a PPR league.My RBs that I have above him in a start 2-3 league:ForteHightowerFWPDerrick WardCTaylorTChoiceRashad JenningsI include this only to state that McClain is probably on par with R. Jennings in value. All the other RBs are worth more IMHO.
 
He's definitely a great player to stash on your roster if you have the room... in the right situation, he could get a lot of playing time and would likely do well with it.There are several other RBs that also fit that description.
The stash point is why I created this thread. He was just dropped in our staff league, which has 22 man rosters, so that was an indicator to me that his perceived value has bottomed out, well below his actual value.I don't know about several - as far as backs that might be available on waivers/for a song:Forsett, Choice, and MMoore are good calls, already mentioned.APeterson and Snelling are interesting ones that are available in most leagues. I'll think on this more and create a better list
Full disclosure - that was my "drop", and it is a PPR league.But do you agree the only rb with a comparable o-line is taylor, and AP has a better shot of staying healthy than Rice/McGahee? And, Ravens don't have luxury of a dome.My RBs that I have above him in a start 2-3 league:ForteHightowerFWPDerrick WardCTaylorTChoiceRashad JenningsI include this only to state that McClain is probably on par with R. Jennings in value. All the other RBs are worth more IMHO.
 
He's definitely a great player to stash on your roster if you have the room... in the right situation, he could get a lot of playing time and would likely do well with it.There are several other RBs that also fit that description.
The stash point is why I created this thread. He was just dropped in our staff league, which has 22 man rosters, so that was an indicator to me that his perceived value has bottomed out, well below his actual value.I don't know about several - as far as backs that might be available on waivers/for a song:Forsett, Choice, and MMoore are good calls, already mentioned.APeterson and Snelling are interesting ones that are available in most leagues. I'll think on this more and create a better list
Full disclosure - that was my "drop", and it is a PPR league.But do you agree the only rb with a comparable o-line is taylor, and AP has a better shot of staying healthy than Rice/McGahee? And, Ravens don't have luxury of a dome.My RBs that I have above him in a start 2-3 league:ForteHightowerFWPDerrick WardCTaylorTChoiceRashad JenningsI include this only to state that McClain is probably on par with R. Jennings in value. All the other RBs are worth more IMHO.
Let me try again to reply... do you agree that only Taylor has a comparable o-line, but AP more likely to stay "healthy"? And, Ravens don't have luxury of a dome in Dec.
 

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