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Jimmy, I cannot see Harrison and CJ making it to the turn. In my 12 team league...Moss will be gone late 1st/early 2nd...Owens and Holt somewhere in the middle of round 2. Chad Johnson is the #1 rated WR on my buddies board and he picks 2.7 so he's gone. Harrison will get swiped before I pick at 2.12/3.1 I am going to have some tough decisions to make. I might grab Lamont Jordan as a RB2/Flex...we start 1RB/2WR/1Flex/1TE so I might want to grab Jordan, but than I need a WR...I will catch hell for this but Michael Clayton is sky high on my board. I like his upside and while I am taking him early, I will not get him at the 4.12 turn. I have him ahead of Horn, Walker, and Wayne although they are all bunched up on my lower 1st tier.
If the top 5 WR's are off the board at pick 24, I'm going to assume that 2 QB's are also off the board. This means that at worst, you have RB17 available. Is that Jordan on your list?You may have Jordan rated higher than me...but on my rankings, I'd have Ahman, Bell, Jackson and Arrington all available and in front of Jordan.
there are always players that come out of nowhere every year - ..... but based upon the scenario in my earlier post it may be wise to go wr/wr almost to a fault (unless some back were to fall unexpectedly) in a 3wr mandatory league and then rb/rb at the 4/5 turn
I agree with you in that i am finding it less and less likely that moss/harrison/cj/holt and even owens find their way to # 24 - (OMG what if owens falls that far and he is still unsettled in philly - you could hit a HR or go bust in the 2nd round!) anyway, i think that is taking gonzo way too high given that now you have a decent rb#2, te#1, rb#1 and NO WR. IMHO you can seemingly always find a rb2 on the waiver wire and with mandatory 3 wr - i think i still go wr/wr or at least wr/rb. But now you have me thinking, what if you went te/wr? that would give you rb#1, TE#1, and a strong #1 wr. YOu could then come back on the 4/5 turn (sounds like poker but it isn't) and look for best available wr/rb.
; how is that possible? there is nothing gimicky in my league setup and there are no points per reception.
With Owens going AWOL, there are now 4 WR you must have...however I can think of worse picks than grabbing 2 of the folowing 5-6 WR.HornAll of us with the 1.01 pick feel the pain. I think the #1 spot guarantees you one of two things, you can either fold and take players way too early just to fill spots or you can gamble and be very strong at Running back.
I'm expecting to go RB/RB/RB as of now. With hopes that one of the top 4WR fall.
My thought is that if I'm going to get stuck with #6-10WR, #3QB or #1TE, then I'll just go RB/RB/RB and not worry.
at the 4/5 spot, I'm going to try and get Witten/Heap along with Bulger. If Bulger is gone then I'll just grab my 4th RB. 4 starting RB would really make other teams weak (maybe even LJ just for high hopes). Especially the ones that have taken a Rookie RB as their #2.
In other words IMO, since the QB pool is so large and the #14 to #36WR is close to the same, I won't take a WR just to take a WR.
My picks 6-10 will include 3WR and 1QB. In my league I have enough space for 5-6WR. So I'll try and grab as many WR from that huge pool as possible, while everybody else is taking backup RB or RBBC.
At the end of the draft, I expect to have the #1 RB group, top 3 TE, average QBs and a pile of WR with hopes that I get two every week with decent opponents. 4 starting RB will come in nice when an owners #2 back goes down
with wr #14 through 36 in your opinion so closely ranked ( and i agree with you) - might you be better off to take 2 wr in the 6-10 range on the 2/3 turn and look for rb#2 at the 4/5 turn? I could see Dunn falling that far, as well as LJ ... I also plan on looking for mewelde moore and shelton late and getting at least one of them in thehopes of stealing a strong #2 back. by doing this (taking the two wr) you could also start to make quality wr very scarce and may cause a bit of panic there and get a rb or two to fall that you did not think would.ultimately it will come down to who is sitting there and "letting the draft come to you"All of us with the 1.01 pick feel the pain. I think the #1 spot guarantees you one of two things, you can either fold and take players way too early just to fill spots or you can gamble and be very strong at Running back.
I'm expecting to go RB/RB/RB as of now. With hopes that one of the top 4WR fall.
My thought is that if I'm going to get stuck with #6-10WR, #3QB or #1TE, then I'll just go RB/RB/RB and not worry.
at the 4/5 spot, I'm going to try and get Witten/Heap along with Bulger. If Bulger is gone then I'll just grab my 4th RB. 4 starting RB would really make other teams weak (maybe even LJ just for high hopes). Especially the ones that have taken a Rookie RB as their #2.
In other words IMO, since the QB pool is so large and the #14 to #36WR is close to the same, I won't take a WR just to take a WR.
My picks 6-10 will include 3WR and 1QB. In my league I have enough space for 5-6WR. So I'll try and grab as many WR from that huge pool as possible, while everybody else is taking backup RB or RBBC.
At the end of the draft, I expect to have the #1 RB group, top 3 TE, average QBs and a pile of WR with hopes that I get two every week with decent opponents. 4 starting RB will come in nice when an owners #2 back goes down
Very good idea. I second the notion.with wr #14 through 36 in your opinion so closely ranked ( and i agree with you) - might you be better off to take 2 wr in the 6-10 range on the 2/3 turn and look for rb#2 at the 4/5 turn? I could see Dunn falling that far, as well as LJ ... I also plan on looking for mewelde moore and shelton late and getting at least one of them in thehopes of stealing a strong #2 back. by doing this (taking the two wr) you could also start to make quality wr very scarce and may cause a bit of panic there and get a rb or two to fall that you did not think would.ultimately it will come down to who is sitting there and "letting the draft come to you"All of us with the 1.01 pick feel the pain. I think the #1 spot guarantees you one of two things, you can either fold and take players way too early just to fill spots or you can gamble and be very strong at Running back.
I'm expecting to go RB/RB/RB as of now. With hopes that one of the top 4WR fall.
My thought is that if I'm going to get stuck with #6-10WR, #3QB or #1TE, then I'll just go RB/RB/RB and not worry.
at the 4/5 spot, I'm going to try and get Witten/Heap along with Bulger. If Bulger is gone then I'll just grab my 4th RB. 4 starting RB would really make other teams weak (maybe even LJ just for high hopes). Especially the ones that have taken a Rookie RB as their #2.
In other words IMO, since the QB pool is so large and the #14 to #36WR is close to the same, I won't take a WR just to take a WR.
My picks 6-10 will include 3WR and 1QB. In my league I have enough space for 5-6WR. So I'll try and grab as many WR from that huge pool as possible, while everybody else is taking backup RB or RBBC.
At the end of the draft, I expect to have the #1 RB group, top 3 TE, average QBs and a pile of WR with hopes that I get two every week with decent opponents. 4 starting RB will come in nice when an owners #2 back goes down
In a start 2 QB league why would you not take Peyton manning 1st? How did the owner that had him last year do? WHat have the QB combos been that have won in this league? I bet the Brees/Carr combo would not fair so well in this league. I would lock up a QB immediately.
I just looked at my last 2 drafts, and a whopping 13 WRs were drafted in rounds 3 and 4 both times!! (Edit to add 10 team redraft)with wr #14 through 36 in your opinion so closely ranked ( and i agree with you) - might you be better off to take 2 wr in the 6-10 range on the 2/3 turn and look for rb#2 at the 4/5 turn? I could see Dunn falling that far, as well as LJ ... I also plan on looking for mewelde moore and shelton late and getting at least one of them in thehopes of stealing a strong #2 back. by doing this (taking the two wr) you could also start to make quality wr very scarce and may cause a bit of panic there and get a rb or two to fall that you did not think would.ultimately it will come down to who is sitting there and "letting the draft come to you"All of us with the 1.01 pick feel the pain. I think the #1 spot guarantees you one of two things, you can either fold and take players way too early just to fill spots or you can gamble and be very strong at Running back.
I'm expecting to go RB/RB/RB as of now. With hopes that one of the top 4WR fall.
My thought is that if I'm going to get stuck with #6-10WR, #3QB or #1TE, then I'll just go RB/RB/RB and not worry.
at the 4/5 spot, I'm going to try and get Witten/Heap along with Bulger. If Bulger is gone then I'll just grab my 4th RB. 4 starting RB would really make other teams weak (maybe even LJ just for high hopes). Especially the ones that have taken a Rookie RB as their #2.
In other words IMO, since the QB pool is so large and the #14 to #36WR is close to the same, I won't take a WR just to take a WR.
My picks 6-10 will include 3WR and 1QB. In my league I have enough space for 5-6WR. So I'll try and grab as many WR from that huge pool as possible, while everybody else is taking backup RB or RBBC.
At the end of the draft, I expect to have the #1 RB group, top 3 TE, average QBs and a pile of WR with hopes that I get two every week with decent opponents. 4 starting RB will come in nice when an owners #2 back goes down
Last year a guy took Manning and Culpepper in rounds 1 and 2 and he finished with the best regular season record. I picked my QB's in rounds 3 and 4 last year (McNair and Brooks) and ended up winning the league, although by the end of the year I benefited greatly from starting a waiver wire combo of Volek and Collins. You do have to have competitive QB's to win this league. I guess I am hoping that a combo of a few upside guys like Palmer and Griese paired with a later combination of a Boller, Warner, Harrington, Garcia, or Frerotte will pay big dividends and will be enough to go with a top 3 of LT/WR/WR.
Im drafting at pick #3 and am considering going this route as well (3 isnt far off from the subject of this discussion)...Between my 3rd and 4th pick, over the last 4 years in my league, the AVG # of WRs taken is 9!! 3 years ago 12 were taken in those 19 picks. I think its a great move getting 2 of those WRs at the start of the WR run that will start in the 3rd. That will allow some good RBs to fall.Between my 3rd and 4th round picks only 3 Rbs were taken last year and the year before. THREE. Lets see....Looking at a WR dropoff of 9-12, or a RB dropoff of 3-4....no brainer.
So the guy with the best regular season had Manning and Culpepper? You got lucky in the playoffs or he got unlucky, whichever. It shows the brutal honesty of getting a top QB. I wouldn't screw with Griese in a mandatory start 2 every week. I like Griese this year a lot...as long as I don't have to use him every week.You won last year...I mean I would just wash, rinse, repeat.
believe it or not there were only 7 wr taken during rds 3 and 4 last year in my league (just 10 years - 1st full year - at least 1/2 guppies). anyway, out of those 20 picks there were 5 qb, 7wr, 1def, 1te, and 6 rb: - probably all of the rb as 4wr went at the end of round 2(including 4 on the flop) - this year we went to 12 teams and replaced 2 guppies so i figure this will be a lot more competitive - still going wr/wr at the 2/3 turn unless some ridiculous rb falls.
I'm telling you that I don't think any of the top4 are going to be there. 2QB, 4 WR, and 17 RB off the board b4 you pick next...I would be inlcined to grab Lamont Jordan and 1 WR...maybe Owens if this clears up but more likely Walker/Wayne something like that. At the end of round 4 1 of the Cardinal boys will be there, and you can probably find another WR you can live with or RB.
I agree they probably won't. I just wanted to get a list of WRs you'd take at 3.01.TO just seems way too risky. They could MeShawn this guy.
Early compared to what? You won't get either of them at the 4th/5th turn...are you really reaching? Or are you simply grabbing 1 or 2 top10 preseason WR and than not have to worry about WR till about the 6th/7th when someone you like will be there. Check out my top5 picks in each round thread...it's in the 1st couple of pages here...good stuff.
Thats not a bad option, however I feel that if you go RB/WR/WR and those WR are something like Horn/Walker, you could get pinched at the 4/5. There could be a run on RB and leave you with tablescraps like Brown or Jones or a rookie which would cause your #2 starting RB to be shaky at best. It could work out, but if this happens you will still have to spend a few spots on Backup RBs that may never see they field or produce as well as their #1.Very good idea. I second the notion.with wr #14 through 36 in your opinion so closely ranked ( and i agree with you) - might you be better off to take 2 wr in the 6-10 range on the 2/3 turn and look for rb#2 at the 4/5 turn? I could see Dunn falling that far, as well as LJ ... I also plan on looking for mewelde moore and shelton late and getting at least one of them in thehopes of stealing a strong #2 back. by doing this (taking the two wr) you could also start to make quality wr very scarce and may cause a bit of panic there and get a rb or two to fall that you did not think would.ultimately it will come down to who is sitting there and "letting the draft come to you"All of us with the 1.01 pick feel the pain. I think the #1 spot guarantees you one of two things, you can either fold and take players way too early just to fill spots or you can gamble and be very strong at Running back.
I'm expecting to go RB/RB/RB as of now. With hopes that one of the top 4WR fall.
My thought is that if I'm going to get stuck with #6-10WR, #3QB or #1TE, then I'll just go RB/RB/RB and not worry.
at the 4/5 spot, I'm going to try and get Witten/Heap along with Bulger. If Bulger is gone then I'll just grab my 4th RB. 4 starting RB would really make other teams weak (maybe even LJ just for high hopes). Especially the ones that have taken a Rookie RB as their #2.
In other words IMO, since the QB pool is so large and the #14 to #36WR is close to the same, I won't take a WR just to take a WR.
My picks 6-10 will include 3WR and 1QB. In my league I have enough space for 5-6WR. So I'll try and grab as many WR from that huge pool as possible, while everybody else is taking backup RB or RBBC.
At the end of the draft, I expect to have the #1 RB group, top 3 TE, average QBs and a pile of WR with hopes that I get two every week with decent opponents. 4 starting RB will come in nice when an owners #2 back goes down
any in the top 19 of the fbg rankings except maybe steven jackson. if either martin and/or jordan is available and that is where i have a real difficulty in decding where to go - if either of guys are left, i probably take either martin or jordan and one wr - fwiw i would see martin as the more conservative pick and jordan as the riskier pick - but don't forget taylor could be there on the 4/5 turn as well as if the receivers left were any of the following: moss, harrison, cj, owens and holt i would have to take two of them and not look back!!
no doubt - i want someone to snatch him up in front of me leaving me with the one leftover out of the top 5! (I just want one - two would be great, but i'd settle for one!)Now, I'm somewhat encouraged...
sorry for three straight posts - but if horn/walker are all that is left at wr then 5 wr's are gone, and at least 1 qb, thus only 17 rb's are taken thus you can still can get a very good back and a wr (NOTE: i am not convinced culpepper would go before 2.12 in my draft just knowing who my audience is) - i don't think you follow my wr/wr theory blindly, but i gotta believe, especially with TO back today and everything ok for the moment, at least one of the top 5 wr makes it back to you at 2.12Thats not a bad option, however I feel that if you go RB/WR/WR and those WR are something like Horn/Walker, you could get pinched at the 4/5. There could be a run on RB and leave you with tablescraps like Brown or Jones or a rookie which would cause your #2 starting RB to be shaky at best. It could work out, but if this happens you will still have to spend a few spots on Backup RBs that may never see they field or produce as well as their #1.Very good idea. I second the notion.with wr #14 through 36 in your opinion so closely ranked ( and i agree with you) - might you be better off to take 2 wr in the 6-10 range on the 2/3 turn and look for rb#2 at the 4/5 turn? I could see Dunn falling that far, as well as LJ ... I also plan on looking for mewelde moore and shelton late and getting at least one of them in thehopes of stealing a strong #2 back. by doing this (taking the two wr) you could also start to make quality wr very scarce and may cause a bit of panic there and get a rb or two to fall that you did not think would.ultimately it will come down to who is sitting there and "letting the draft come to you"All of us with the 1.01 pick feel the pain. I think the #1 spot guarantees you one of two things, you can either fold and take players way too early just to fill spots or you can gamble and be very strong at Running back.
I'm expecting to go RB/RB/RB as of now. With hopes that one of the top 4WR fall.
My thought is that if I'm going to get stuck with #6-10WR, #3QB or #1TE, then I'll just go RB/RB/RB and not worry.
at the 4/5 spot, I'm going to try and get Witten/Heap along with Bulger. If Bulger is gone then I'll just grab my 4th RB. 4 starting RB would really make other teams weak (maybe even LJ just for high hopes). Especially the ones that have taken a Rookie RB as their #2.
In other words IMO, since the QB pool is so large and the #14 to #36WR is close to the same, I won't take a WR just to take a WR.
My picks 6-10 will include 3WR and 1QB. In my league I have enough space for 5-6WR. So I'll try and grab as many WR from that huge pool as possible, while everybody else is taking backup RB or RBBC.
At the end of the draft, I expect to have the #1 RB group, top 3 TE, average QBs and a pile of WR with hopes that I get two every week with decent opponents. 4 starting RB will come in nice when an owners #2 back goes down
Plus there are plenty of viable WR out there that can be had in the middle rounds that could work their way to a top 15 finish and be worthy of that #WR2 spot.
If you are not sold at the RB spot, go RB/WR/RB that will at least give you the chance at the 4/5 to take the highest rated player at any position, since you wouldn't need a RB, and if there is a run on RB in round 4, you can then take the best available. If there isn't a run, then you have the luxury of some RB depth (nice).
4/5 viable options:
Witten/Bulger/Collins/Roy Williams/Bennett/Burleson/Foster/Taylor/Johnson.
LT at 1.1 and TO at 2.12.I would be extremely satisfied with that.no doubt - i want someone to snatch him up in front of me leaving me with the one leftover out of the top 5! (I just want one - two would be great, but i'd settle for one!)Now, I'm somewhat encouraged...
Depends on your league. The "sharkier" it is, the more likely the players will fall. In one league, I had both Chad Johnson and Marvin Harrison at the turn after taking LaDainian. I was thrilled. BUT, I got stuck with DeShaun Foster and Ronnie Brown at the next turn.no doubt - i want someone to snatch him up in front of me leaving me with the one leftover out of the top 5! (I just want one - two would be great, but i'd settle for one!)Now, I'm somewhat encouraged...
Yes. 4 Picks in the top 30 is not bad.You could be looking a foursome the likes of: Deuce McCallister, Marvin Harrison, Brian Westbrook, and Javon Walker.
ick 1.01 (basically LT)Pick 5.01I receive
