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Lions looking to dump Mike Williams: (1 Viewer)

Da Guru

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I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams.

Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him)

That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list.

At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.

 
Interesting, considering Roy Williams has just spoke up about how he feels Mike should be playing.
Roy also guaranteed a Victory at Chicago this weekend. And that the Lions have the best offense in the NFL and they only way they can get stopped is if they stop themselves.Roy was right about one thing,,they do stop themselves quite a bit.
 
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This makes sense since they just signed Az Hakim. Not sure that they'll get much interest but at least they picked up a more productive WR :D

 
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
 
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
 
What would the cap hit be if they traded or released him? I thought I read somewhere that the cap hit was high, and that was part of why he is still here.

And to think we could have drafted Shawne Merriman instead.

:wall: <----life as a Lions fan

 
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It's actually refreshing that Marianelli has got enough power/balls to tell Millen that he's not going to play Rogers/M. Williams and that he's willing to cut them or trade them, respectively.

 
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
Yeah and Ernest Wilford is a track star. That is not a problem for a big receiver, obviously.
 
Isn't this the guy Mel Kiper Jr. claimed was the best pro-prospect of his entire draft class?
No wonder he fell in the draft and Millen drafted him. :cool:
It's actually refreshing that Marianelli has got enough power/balls to tell Millen that he's not going to play Rogers/M. Williams and that he's willing to cut them or trade them, respectively.
...and that Millen (and Ford) would allow it. It's not like the HC has the final say.
 
Have they ever played him in the slot on 3/4 WR sets? Seems like he could work better there than on the outside. Smaller corners, nickel backs, and LBs have to be better matchups than top corners for this guy.

 
BigRed said:
BlueOnion said:
Isn't this the guy Mel Kiper Jr. claimed was the best pro-prospect of his entire draft class?
No wonder he fell in the draft and Millen drafted him. :cool:
Foosball God said:
It's actually refreshing that Marianelli has got enough power/balls to tell Millen that he's not going to play Rogers/M. Williams and that he's willing to cut them or trade them, respectively.
...and that Millen (and Ford) would allow it. It's not like the HC has the final say.
:lmao: I remember when Kiper was pimping him saying wondering how all these teams could miss out on the best WR available.
 
Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
The same Williamson that has all those dents in his helmet from getting hit in the face with the ball..??Maybe they should do an experiment and combine BMW's hands and size with Troy speed..is Dr. frankenstein availible..??
 
Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
[hijack]What in sweet hell is wrong with that guy?? That catch he biffed the other night was brutal.

I heard that he had eye-hand coordination problems. Isn't that sort of like a defensive tackle "having problems with excessive physical contact." Sheesh. . .

[/hijack]

 
Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
The same Williamson that has all those dents in his helmet from getting hit in the face with the ball..??Maybe they should do an experiment and combine BMW's hands and size with Troy speed..is Dr. frankenstein availible..??
You can teach somebody to catch. You can't teach speed. BMW is slow. The projections of him being a better fit at TE were spot on.I'd take Williamson any day over BMW.
 
Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
The same Williamson that has all those dents in his helmet from getting hit in the face with the ball..??Maybe they should do an experiment and combine BMW's hands and size with Troy speed..is Dr. frankenstein availible..??
They have.His name is Matt Jones.
 
Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
The same Williamson that has all those dents in his helmet from getting hit in the face with the ball..??Maybe they should do an experiment and combine BMW's hands and size with Troy speed..is Dr. frankenstein availible..??
:lmao: When the NFL starts allowing Velcro helmets and footballs, Troy will be the number 1 FF draft pick
 
lions327 said:
What would the cap hit be if they traded or released him? I thought I read somewhere that the cap hit was high, and that was part of why he is still here.And to think we could have drafted Shawne Merriman instead. :wall: <----life as a Lions fan
I think the cap hit is like $12 million, and that's the only reason he's still around.
 
lod2005 said:
Da Guru said:
perry147 said:
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
Yeah and Ernest Wilford is a track star. That is not a problem for a big receiver, obviously.
Well Big, slow and Lazy is not a good combination for a NFL WR.
 
Funny nobody seemed to think his lack of speed was that big of a deal all the way up to (and including, and after) the draft. :rolleyes:

 
Funny nobody seemed to think his lack of speed was that big of a deal all the way up to (and including, and after) the draft. :rolleyes:
To be honest with you I had heard some concerns about his speed before the draft. I remember against Michigan in the RoseBowl Williams used his body and strength to dominate CBs. That has not been the case in the NFL. I went to opening day a year ago. I was sitting pretty high so I could see the plays develop..Williams was never open. Then he caught a 5 yard TD pass using his body and I thought OK..he will just muscle defenders. It really has not happened.
 
Da Guru said:
Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him)
Most special teams coaches want their troops to run a sub-7.5 forty.
 
lod2005 said:
Da Guru said:
perry147 said:
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
Yeah and Ernest Wilford is a track star. That is not a problem for a big receiver, obviously.
Well Big, slow and Lazy is not a good combination for a NFL WR.
That's better.
 
The year he was drafted, I wanted the Buc's to draft him and go with Pittman/ Alstott at Rb. :bag: :bag: :bag: I will never question another Buc's draft pick again.

 
Gee maybe the Lions can get DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman for him, since they were both available when they took this big fat stiff.
Don't forget about Derrick Johnson either, the consensus pick and the players most Lion's fans wanted. I admit I didn't mind the BMW pick at the time and was suprised the Vikings passed on him for Troy W. But it hurts now to look back and see the solid Defensive players that were passed over for this POS.
 
perry147 said:
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
There are always going to be busts in the draft, and WR (along with QB) seems to have the most at the top of the draft. THat's why picking thee WRs in the top-10 isn't smart. The Lions got one out of three at WR (maybe) - the problem wasn't so much that they made picks that other teams wouldn't have made. It's that they took a lot of expensive gambles at a position that has a relatively low success rate, and they ignored other aspects of the team.Millen is the worst GM in the NFL, hands down.
 
Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
The same Williamson that has all those dents in his helmet from getting hit in the face with the ball..??Maybe they should do an experiment and combine BMW's hands and size with Troy speed..is Dr. frankenstein availible..??
David Boston...?
 
Da Guru said:
perry147 said:
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
I hate to throw this out there before I get a good look at MW but also heard that Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 40 when he started and he seemed to be able to find a way to get open regardless of his speed. MW does have good hands and is 6-4 229 lbs so why couldn't he be like a Muhammad or Keyshawn?
 
Da Guru said:
perry147 said:
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
I hate to throw this out there before I get a good look at MW but also heard that Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 40 when he started and he seemed to be able to find a way to get open regardless of his speed. MW does have good hands and is 6-4 229 lbs so why couldn't he be like a Muhammad or Keyshawn?
Work ethic and being in shape might have something to do with it.
 
Da Guru said:
perry147 said:
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
I hate to throw this out there before I get a good look at MW but also heard that Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 40 when he started and he seemed to be able to find a way to get open regardless of his speed. MW does have good hands and is 6-4 229 lbs so why couldn't he be like a Muhammad or Keyshawn?
Being slow and big is one thing.but BMW has no work ethic,none. the guy has been fined multiple times over and over. for being late to meeting/practice etc.the signing of Az-hakim just means he's gonna be inactive more often than not.
 
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Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
[hijack]What in sweet hell is wrong with that guy?? That catch he biffed the other night was brutal.

I heard that he had eye-hand coordination problems. Isn't that sort of like a defensive tackle "having problems with excessive physical contact." Sheesh. . .

[/hijack]
:blackdot: I thought a WR with bad hands was another name for DB.

 
I'm going to take a contrarian view on this one (maybe because I own him in a contract league and he's killing me, but I digress), and say that this guy is a prime candidate for a change of scenery.

 
Da Guru said:
perry147 said:
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams. Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him) That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list. At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
I dropped this guy a month ago in a dynasty league. The more I studied and read up on him the more I could tell he was not fitting into the martz system, and given his previous problems with being late, out of shape, and lack of work ethic I could not see a reason to hold onto him.I wish I never drafted him.Why don't the Lions just fire Millen?
The problem is that Williams is a step slow for a WR and can`t get separation. I would say put him at TE but I read he can`t block his mother. It is not a good situation.
I hate to throw this out there before I get a good look at MW but also heard that Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 40 when he started and he seemed to be able to find a way to get open regardless of his speed. MW does have good hands and is 6-4 229 lbs so why couldn't he be like a Muhammad or Keyshawn?
Work ethic and being in shape might have something to do with it.
IMO, that's all it is. Watching him in college it was obvious that he would at worst be a Keyshawn-type of receiver with his size and hands. His speed is good enough if he had the dedication to the game that other guys with his speed have. He just isn't dedicated and the only reason I have that he might get is that he's still one of the youngest WR's in the NFL.
 
I'm going to take a contrarian view on this one (maybe because I own him in a contract league and he's killing me, but I digress), and say that this guy is a prime candidate for a change of scenery.
But it's difficult to take a contrarian view when two separate coaching staffs have basically rejected this guy. Same with Charles Rogers. I hope beyond hope that BMW will turn it around. I did for Rogers as well. But I can't defend these guys anymore. I think they both deserve the 50/50 nickname that was also given to Rod Gardner. Half assed effort.

 
BlueOnion said:
Isn't this the guy Mel Kiper Jr. claimed was the best pro-prospect of his entire draft class?
Same guy who blasted the Colts for taking Manning over Leif :lmao:
 
Muahahaha said:
I am increasingly thankful that the Vikings took Williamson over this clown.
The same Williamson that has all those dents in his helmet from getting hit in the face with the ball..??Maybe they should do an experiment and combine BMW's hands and size with Troy speed..is Dr. frankenstein availible..??
David Boston...?
Boston was a failed creation. He had the speed and the hands but they used way too much steroids and gave him a bad set of knee's.matt jones seems to meet the hype. He just needs 1 more year of experience at WR and i think he will take off.
 
Da Guru said:
I just heard on a local station that the Lions have been in contact with a number of teams trying to drum up some interest in Mike Williams.

Williams was inactive for the first week of the year because he can`t (I don`t know why) play special teams. (It must be beneath him)

That will make 2 out of the last three first rd picks before this season a total waste. Rod Marinara is cleaning house of all the lazy players. Roger and Williams have been at the top of his list.

At this point what kind of value does Mike Williams have?? Next to none.
Three of the last four actually (Williams, Rogers, Harrington). Nice going Matt!!!
 
Funny nobody seemed to think his lack of speed was that big of a deal all the way up to (and including, and after) the draft. :rolleyes:
Is this sarcasm? I remember discussions on this board of that very issue, as well as online articles debating whether or not this guy is destined to be a TE. This was more discussion before the draft he was eventually ruled inelligible for. Then he spent the offseason working on his straight line speed, and ran better 40s numbers.Regardless, this has always been recognized, at least for some, as an issue for Williams.
 

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