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So the new staff watches some film, sees Harrington make some good throws, and he's already got their support as the starter?!?? This same thing has happened for like the last 4 years.
Have you been watching the same Harrington as the rest of us?
It seems to me they are just trying to put out in the media that they like him to build a little confidence.... he seems on the verge of going Ryan Leaf.Have you been watching the same Harrington as the rest of us?
So first it was the talent at the skill positions around him, then it was the coaching and WCO, and now it's the o-line. Might as well start making excuses that involve Martz because that's where we'll be 1 year from now.Good QBs find a way to win games. The only thing Harrington has shown in 4 years is that he can occasionally make a good throw. Stop making excuses for him.Until Joey gets an O-line, he will look like crap.
Have you watched any Lions games?So first it was the talent at the skill positions around him, then it was the coaching and WCO, and now it's the o-line. Might as well start making excuses that involve Martz because that's where we'll be 1 year from now.Good QBs find a way to win games. The only thing Harrington has shown in 4 years is that he can occasionally make a good throw. Stop making excuses for him.Until Joey gets an O-line, he will look like crap.
Doesn't the franchise tag require that the player be paid the average of the top 5 players at their position? No way in hell does Backus get paid on par with guys like Walter Jones, Pace, and Ogden. Not even Millen could be that stupid, could he? 
Yes.Have you watched any Lions games?So first it was the talent at the skill positions around him, then it was the coaching and WCO, and now it's the o-line. Might as well start making excuses that involve Martz because that's where we'll be 1 year from now.Good QBs find a way to win games. The only thing Harrington has shown in 4 years is that he can occasionally make a good throw. Stop making excuses for him.Until Joey gets an O-line, he will look like crap.
it was never said that they would use the franchise tag. only that they would use a tag. they'll use the transition tag which would pay him an avg of the top 10 LT's in the game.
The bad part is that those two tags are only about 600k apart.. IIRC, it was 6.9mil for Franchise tag and 6.3 for Transition Tag..it was never said that they would use the franchise tag. only that they would use a tag. they'll use the transition tag which would pay him an avg of the top 10 LT's in the game.
I'm torn about this. On the one hand you could argue that at the current market Backus isn't worth a transition tag. On the other hand, letting him walk and then going out and signing a good vet would cost just as much--if not more--than putting the transition tag on Backus. Furthermore, today's contracts become tomorrow's bargains. When the Lions signed Bly three years ago, people howled over how they "overpaid" for him. But within a short year or two, his contract was a nice bargain when compared to what other all-pro corners--and stiffs--were getting.The bad part is that those two tags are only about 600k apart.. IIRC, it was 6.9mil for Franchise tag and 6.3 for Transition Tag..it was never said that they would use the franchise tag. only that they would use a tag. they'll use the transition tag which would pay him an avg of the top 10 LT's in the game.
I don't think Joey's problems are correctable. You can correct poor mechanics, but you can't correct a poor mental makeup. I'm not saying Joey is "special" or lacks intelligence. But he does appear to lack the ability to quickly process mulitple bits of information while under pressure. Kyle Boller also appears to have that problem. He does not seem to have the mental brain type, or personality type for that matter, that you would desire to have in a QB. He's not Ryan Leaf, but he also will never be Tom Brady.
What a relief. I don't have to listen to Martz or believe a word he says now.
You probably still think Darko is going to be an all-star just because Dumars said he's good in practice.
So Dumars trading Darko proves that I should listen to posters here instead of Martz. Brilliant.
No, Dumars trading Darko proves that there is such a thing as coachspeak (or GMspeak). Martz can say that Joey is the starter but that doesn't guarantee 1.) That Joey is good or 2.) That Martz actually believes he's good.
Lions applied the franchise tag on left tackle Jeff Backus.The team couldn't afford to lose the five-year veteran and will continue to work on a long-term deal with him. A Mike Martz offense needs a quality left tackle to survive.
No you can just take his word for it on Trung Candidate. Or Eric Crouch. Or Jimmy Kennedy. Or most of his other first round picks.I don't really care what Mike Martz thinks of Joey Harrington. Or any other professional NFL scout for that matter. I already know he doesn't have what it takes. Alll Joey's ever proven is that he can occassionally make a good throw. That's it.
While you are correct in saying there are no guarantees and everyone is human and makes mistakes...there is no data under the sun for your arrogant and ludicrous statement that we should all heed your advice over Martz simply because "you know" what Harrington will do this year (nothing).
Capt., Why do you take criticism of the Lions so personally? They're clearly in a tight race for 2nd worst franchise in the NFL, yet you defend them to no end. I understand being a fan and all. After all I'm a fan of them and the other team they're vying with for the dubious position of futility (Arizona), but I also know when to call a spade a spade. Lions players, ownership, and management all deserve the potshots they've taken as none of them have produced.
God people are clueless. 
