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Luke Kuechly thoughts? (1 Viewer)

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OUCH. He's had a solid game or two, but a lot of mediocre ones so far. Definitely not like last year. Any thoughts? Thomas Davis seems to be siphoning off some of his production, but I haven't had a chance to watch much Carolina football.

 
Between him and Billy Wagner (FBG #1 and #2 ranked LB) they are both killing me....lesson learned with trusting youth over tried and tested talent. perhaps FBG should consider this...these are big misses

 
They were my top two guys too. I don't think it's a question of talent but maybe it's an indication that you need to lean more towards drafting LBs like DBs - waiting till late and picking up guys who can get 80% of "elite" production, maybe more. The fact is I have good LBs on paper, but no advantage over my league mates who are starting the likes of Lance Briggs and others (nothing against Briggs but you know what I mean)

 
.lesson learned with trusting youth over tried and tested talent.
It's really not even related to that from where I'm sitting. What a lot of people are ignoring is that both guys are playing behind improved front fours. Less trash gets through, less opportunity, etc.

Wagner's also playing for a defense that is really limiting the chances for opposing offenses. I haven't checked recently, but I believe through the first 3 or 4 weeks he was among the worst in the league, if not the worst, at MLB for tackle opportunities. The Seahawks have been playing with leads a lot too. More throwing usually = less chances for stops for the LBs, even the 3-down guys.

Not sure what The Keke's whole deal is, other than those two rookie DTs are probably stealing some of his shine. Either by getting the stops themselves, or by having teams trying to avoid the middle of the line, thus avoiding The Keke "by proxy." Total speculation there though. Haven't looked into tackle opps, etc. for Carolina.

 
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It all depends how many IDPs you start, we start 1 LB, 1 DB, 1 DL and 1 IDP Flex, the best strategy is to wait until the end. Unless JJ Wattts is avaliable at 8 or later, and if he does not start performing a little better I would say do not draft him next year not until the 12+ round

 
If we're talking dynasty, you have no reason to worry. He's still developing, and no one around him is getting any younger.

Also lol at "he's killing me..." He's the ~17th ranked LB in my leagues. Sure it's not '1st Def player drafted overall' numbers, but it's still LB1

 
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It all depends how many IDPs you start, we start 1 LB, 1 DB, 1 DL and 1 IDP Flex, the best strategy is to wait until the end. Unless JJ Wattts is avaliable at 8 or later, and if he does not start performing a little better I would say do not draft him next year not until the 12+ round
After what's occurred with Watt and Kuechly this year it's a lesson learned from me. I could had filled my lineup in those 4 and 5 IDP starter leagues from the garbage and been killing folks. I easily I could have had Cam Jordan, Wheeler, and maybe a Woodson or Inehecho at safety by just using FA to fill my lineup in week 2.

 
Just saw the game via Sunday Ticket. There is no reason to worry. He is still aggressive and making good reads. Did overrun 2 plays but this WAS Adrian Peterson. MIN did not not work the middle of the field much.....rather choosing sideline passes. Anything in the middle belonged to Kuechly AND Thomas Davis. I did notice Davis dropping back LESS further than Kuechly. So on shorter passes, Davis got there first. On that note, I believe Thomas Davis is legit and worth a roster spot on anyone's team.

I know this was only 1 game. Still had 7 tackles but really did look fine to me. Both LB's were out of the game for the last 5:00 of the 4thQ too in this blowout. Kuechly needs to start for your team every week.......period.

Hope this helps.

 
I feel your pain.......but we can't sit him. Here is a tidbit from their last game.

Carolina Panthers LB Luke Kuechly was such the center of attention for the Rams that it allowed DT Star Lotulelei and DE Greg Hardy to have standout days, an encouraging sign from one of the league’s standout defenses on Sunday, according to The Charlotte Observer.

They seem to be focusing on him and taking him out of the play. First time I really saw this strategy.

 
I know it's a bad matchup this week but he's a LB2/3 right now. There are a ton of guys outproducing him right now. Total waste of a high pick.

 
garbage time deflection for luke....I have also been taking it in the shorts with him. I think he is benched next week, Of course, my other lb, pat willis, isnt lighting it up either.

 
Only 11 rushing attempts by Tampa really hurt him.

Still finished with 5-3 which isn't bad but we all expected more as the 1st LB off the board.

Still on pace for 125-130 tackles and has produced 2 INT, 3 PD, and 4 stuffs already.

Hopefully the tackles, especially the solos, will increase but he has a lot of matchups vs pass 1st teams the rest of the way which is a bit concerning.

 
I've decided he's a pure matchup guy after last night. If I don't see a good volume of target enrichment headed his way I will start Bostic or Beasley over him.

 
.lesson learned with trusting youth over tried and tested talent.
It's really not even related to that from where I'm sitting. What a lot of people are ignoring is that both guys are playing behind improved front fours. Less trash gets through, less opportunity, etc.

Wagner's also playing for a defense that is really limiting the chances for opposing offenses. I haven't checked recently, but I believe through the first 3 or 4 weeks he was among the worst in the league, if not the worst, at MLB for tackle opportunities. The Seahawks have been playing with leads a lot too. More throwing usually = less chances for stops for the LBs, even the 3-down guys.

Not sure what The Keke's whole deal is, other than those two rookie DTs are probably stealing some of his shine. Either by getting the stops themselves, or by having teams trying to avoid the middle of the line, thus avoiding The Keke "by proxy." Total speculation there though. Haven't looked into tackle opps, etc. for Carolina.
Panthers D facing the least rushing attempts per game so far this year.

 

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