Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Depends if democrat or republican.
Not lying if they didn’t know they were being lied to. Even though that is hard to be to believe they didn’t.Joe Mammy said:Looks like some lying going on in the poll answers.
I think you need to clean up the OP to get any real value out of the thread. I have no problem saying things that aren’t true in certain circumstances - several examples in the thread already.Ruffrodys05 said:You don't need to assume, nor should you. I specifically stated the purpose of the poll. I placed it here in the PSF because I felt that inevitably it would become political. Case in point, your post.
So answer me please, is it acceptable, within your core values, to lie?
Personally, I don't care if it's a little white lie or not, it is completely and wholly unacceptable. Even a little white lie from someone leads me to lose my trust in them. Period.
Personally, I don't care if it's a little white lie or not, it is completely and wholly unacceptable. Even a little white lie from someone leads me to lose my trust in them. Period.
I get it though, those little white lies are necessary on occasion so as to not cause anyone else pain or undue suffering.
I struggle with telling white lies. I deal with it and do my best to accept it for what it is. I bear it so others don't suffer, even though to my core I feel it is wrong. That may seem like a reconciliation to you but it isn't to me.I can see how one would think that. But how do you reconcile that(?)
So a situation came up - friend of ours had a new baby and named the child a name that we had considered and laughed at because we thought it was so awful. On first visit the new mother asked "Isn't that name precious?" We, of course, lied about liking the name.
Compare that with your statement and tell my why it was completely and wholly unacceptable.
Yeah, there's a scale on what you can lie about and what you shouldn't with a grey area in between. As one takes on more responsibility the impact on those lies grows and the decision making process is unavoidable. And it isn't always direct lies; it's usually dancing around the truth.All of us lie every day.
If you don't you are an a - hole.
I struggle with telling white lies. I deal with it and do my best to accept it for what it is. I bear it so others don't suffer, even though to my core I feel it is wrong. That may seem like a reconciliation to you but it isn't to me.
I know things aren't strictly this black and white in the real world. I just have such an inherent hatred for lying that is difficult for me to get past. This is my issue and I own it.
Ok, let me come at this another way. Lies told to me vs the lies I tell.Joe Bryant said:Thanks. What I meant was how you can see them as "completely and wholly unacceptable" but also "necessary on occasion."
That's what I didn't understand.
Ok, let me come at this another way. Lies told to me vs the lies I tell.
I don't want little white lies to be told to me. Ever. The truth hurts in many different ways but I want to be told the truth no matter how much that truth may hurt me. I guess I'm a bit different than most folks as I'd prefer the pain of a truth vs the attempt to spare my feelings of a little white lie. In my experience the pain and hurt of discovering I was lied to, even in an attempt to spare my feelings, hurts much worse than just telling me the truth in the first place.
However I will admit, on very rare occasions, I will tell a little white lie to spare anothers feelings. I struggle to find reconciliation between these instances of being lied to and being the lier. Because I abhor lies, even little white lies, being told to me I find it extremely difficult to lie to others. When I encounter a situation where I might have to tell that little white lie I only do so when I feel I have no other choice. It's never simple or easy for me.
My feelings on this whole issue of lying may seem strange to a lot of folks. I'm okay with that. The whole point of my poll was an attempt, a poor one at that, to try to find out how others felt about lying. It seems so prevalent in today's society. Everywhere I look. So, I find myself wondering if I'm the only one who feels the way I do about it. I think I am.
I think I'd kind of agree with you there. Although, I've never come across anyone who actually did that. I suppose I could relate it to someone who brags incessantly about everything therefore I don't believe anything they say. I've come across those types of individuals. That's a form of lying I see no legitimate purpose for.I don't trust people who feel the need to tell me how honest they are.