Man of Steel (1 Viewer)

[Braktastic]

Kingpin had a certain body type. I think Duncan was cast based on that not some weird racial conspiracy. And really I want the best actor to play the character, race isn't a major consideration IMO.

I get that. I don't really think it is a conspiracy, but I'm a comic book traditionalist. I have enough problems getting out of my Silver Age comfort zone.

 

[NCCommish]

Kingpin had a certain body type. I think Duncan was cast based on that not some weird racial conspiracy. And really I want the best actor to play the character, race isn't a major consideration IMO.

I get that. I don't really think it is a conspiracy, but I'm a comic book traditionalist. I have enough problems getting out of my Silver Age comfort zone.

I understand completely. Canon is canon for a reason after all.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see them either pass over Lex Luthor entirely or have him be a secondary character in the next film. I'd love to see Brainiac and Darkseid introduced, although I can see why they might steer away from the later with Marvel using his equivalent character in their current cinematic story arc.

They need to have a character with some firepower though. Another Luthor and kryptonite movie is exactly what doesn't need to be done again.

 

[Pick]

Didn't like seeing Diane Lane all olded up.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see them either pass over Lex Luthor entirely or have him be a secondary character in the next film. I'd love to see Brainiac and Darkseid introduced, although I can see why they might steer away from the later with Marvel using his equivalent character in their current cinematic story arc.

They need to have a character with some firepower though. Another Luthor and kryptonite movie is exactly what doesn't need to be done again.

I think I would like to see Luthor but in a different way - as the mastermind behind something and make it a character that can be in a movie or two as a larger arc. The whole ending a super villan in one movie thing isn't exactly in keeping with the comics and I think forces them to sometimes make bad decisions to keep getting new bad guys. So do something where Lex is the boss and Superman has to stop whatever he is doing but doesn't catch Lex at the end - almost Empire Strikes Back like.

And I agree with the poster that said Lex needs to be a homerun - and they need him to be much much darker than the others. Spacey was ok and HAckman nailed it perfectly, but there was too much comedy in both. They need to make him sinister and evil without humor.

 

[NCCommish]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see them either pass over Lex Luthor entirely or have him be a secondary character in the next film. I'd love to see Brainiac and Darkseid introduced, although I can see why they might steer away from the later with Marvel using his equivalent character in their current cinematic story arc.

They need to have a character with some firepower though. Another Luthor and kryptonite movie is exactly what doesn't need to be done again.

I think I would like to see Luthor but in a different way - as the mastermind behind something and make it a character that can be in a movie or two as a larger arc. The whole ending a super villan in one movie thing isn't exactly in keeping with the comics and I think forces them to sometimes make bad decisions to keep getting new bad guys. So do something where Lex is the boss and Superman has to stop whatever he is doing but doesn't catch Lex at the end - almost Empire Strikes Back like.

And I agree with the poster that said Lex needs to be a homerun - and they need him to be much much darker than the others. Spacey was ok and HAckman nailed it perfectly, but there was too much comedy in both. They need to make him sinister and evil without humor.

See I disagree. Again I go back to Smallville. They develop Lex as someone who wasn't evil per se but felt like these things he did were necessary for securing Earth from aliens like Superman. He becomes evil to outsiders but to him it is all the ends justify the means. He loses himself in that and it makes for a far more complex interesting character than the cardboard cut out villain.

 

[Kumerica]

Arnold Vosloo for Lex Luthor.

Oh, no. He's all wrong for Lex Luthor. Arnold Vosloo is a scene-chewing hack that belongs in Mega Force remakes like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. You need an actor that not only looks the part but can play cold, calculating genius.

I think he's just been only given scene-chewing hack roles. You know, like the ones Samuel L. Jackson takes because he wants to.

Mark Strong.

Peter Sarsgaard or Paul Bettany?

Bettany's the voice of JARVIS in IM, a Marvel movie . . . surely there's a non-compete contract of some sorts.

And Sarsgaard was the villain in Green Lantern. (Though Mark Strong was in that too, now that I think about it.)

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see them either pass over Lex Luthor entirely or have him be a secondary character in the next film. I'd love to see Brainiac and Darkseid introduced, although I can see why they might steer away from the later with Marvel using his equivalent character in their current cinematic story arc.

They need to have a character with some firepower though. Another Luthor and kryptonite movie is exactly what doesn't need to be done again.

I think I would like to see Luthor but in a different way - as the mastermind behind something and make it a character that can be in a movie or two as a larger arc. The whole ending a super villan in one movie thing isn't exactly in keeping with the comics and I think forces them to sometimes make bad decisions to keep getting new bad guys. So do something where Lex is the boss and Superman has to stop whatever he is doing but doesn't catch Lex at the end - almost Empire Strikes Back like.

And I agree with the poster that said Lex needs to be a homerun - and they need him to be much much darker than the others. Spacey was ok and HAckman nailed it perfectly, but there was too much comedy in both. They need to make him sinister and evil without humor.

See I disagree. Again I go back to Smallville. They develop Lex as someone who wasn't evil per se but felt like these things he did were necessary for securing Earth from aliens like Superman. He becomes evil to outsiders but to him it is all the ends justify the means. He loses himself in that and it makes for a far more complex interesting character than the cardboard cut out villain.

Never watched Smallville. But I hear what you are saying. But you can do it your way and still make it darker than the comedic Luthor that is the movie version to date. Even Zod in this movie fits your explanation - he was doing his job and what he was designed to do. He just went about it in a way that not too many people of either planet ended up happy with.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

And Sarsgaard was the villain in Green Lantern. (Though Mark Strong was in that too, now that I think about it.)

I missed that because I successfully avoided that catastrophe.

 

[Mad Cow]

I really liked the movie, but felt sorry for Helo and Gaeta for their bit roles. :(

 

[Kumerica]

I really liked the movie, but felt sorry for Helo and Gaeta for their bit roles. :(

Funny, last week I started watching Continuum, in which they both have recurring roles. While I now remember they were both in MoS, I guess it didn't register 'cause I'd just seen 'em during the week.

I was just happy to see Toby Ziegler savin' the day.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Saw this yesterday. Great movie. About as perfect as a Superman movie can get IMO.

 

[Dentist]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see them either pass over Lex Luthor entirely or have him be a secondary character in the next film. I'd love to see Brainiac and Darkseid introduced, although I can see why they might steer away from the later with Marvel using his equivalent character in their current cinematic story arc.

They need to have a character with some firepower though. Another Luthor and kryptonite movie is exactly what doesn't need to be done again.

Brainiac was the villain in the recent animated movie featuring Superman... I'm about 1/3rd of the way through that movie right now.. it's decent

 

[kutta]

I saw it last night and just wasn't a big fan. I thought it was a good movie, and I am sure it will do well. I just thought there were too many special effects/alien stuff and it detracted from the movie. That sounds weird because I usually don't mind that kind of stuff, but I guess the thing I enjoy most about super hero movies is their interaction with normal humans. To have most of the interactions in this movie between Superman and his kind just sort of took away from the novelty of it all.

I'm not sure if I am really conveying my thoughts well, but I just left the theater thinking, well, it was good, but it just didn't grab hold of me.

 

[Dexter]

Amy Adams has that Jenna Fisher from the Office hotness going for her. Very cute in the, I think I could get that girl look. She also didn't Adrian the movie which was nice.

I kept asking my wife if that was Pam. I think Amy Adams did date Jim at some point in the show.

I looked her up she was the bag sales lady who started dating Jim. And I agree she looked like Pam in this movie.

 

[Dexter]

question about the ending

Spoiler

regarding Superman killing Zod.....I was under the impression that breaking Zod's neck (twisting it) made Zod's heat vision go to the right and kill the family in the corner. You think that was the implication?

Spoiler

That's what I gathered... That's why Superman was so upset ...

Spoiler

I didn't even think that. Maybe. I don't know if it matters. There could have been a few reasons he was upset.

last of his people, he didn't actually ever kill anyone before, just the revelation of killing the man who killed his father

Spoiler

I believe the family was fine. What hurt Superman was killing Zod. It hurt for two reasons 1. Zod was his only real connection to Krypton (even though the other are in the phantom zone). 2. His whole like He's been taught to hold back his powers. To be the greater man. Superman does not kill. Everyone knows this. And killing Zod cut him to the core and some how Zod knew that. There was no other way though and I think it might be something that haunts him through the rest of the series

 

[Mr Anonymous]

When I picture a future casting of Lex Luther, I picture Stanley Tucci

He'd pull off the creepy and dark that I'd rather see as opposed to a cartoonish version

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The movie broke June Box office records, so I think it's safe to say we get a sequel or two outta this one.

I think they really need to kill it with Lex Luthor. Much like the Joker in the Batman trilogy basically made that series, whoever gets Lex needs to nail it.

Someone on another forum mentioned Jason Isaacs for Lex. This is a good choice. Who do you guys think would play a good Lex?

John Malkovich? Too old??

He and Sean Bean came to mind for me.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Does Zod tell people to kneel or not?

 

[PatsWillWin]

question about the ending

Spoiler

regarding Superman killing Zod.....I was under the impression that breaking Zod's neck (twisting it) made Zod's heat vision go to the right and kill the family in the corner. You think that was the implication?

Spoiler

That's what I gathered... That's why Superman was so upset ...

Spoiler

Not at all. Superman saved the family at the expense of taking a life -- a big no-no in Superman's ethos. He was upset because he was forced to make a terrible choice - between an human family or a Kryptonian. But taking any life would cause him just as much pain. Superman don't kill anyone. Batman would probably wig out too, only he wouldn't cry in his girlfriend's arms, he'd go home, drink a ton of top shelf hootch and brood for three months in a room with black walls.

This was my interpretation.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Does Zod tell people to kneel or not?

not

 

[The_Burning_Bush]

When Superman fights General Zod and Faora(the lady right-hand-man to Zod who kicked everyone's ### nearly everytime she was on screen) in Smallville.... who was the taller Kryptonian fighting alongside Faora? I know he has a name, but I can't remember it...

 

[avoiding injuries]

When Superman fights General Zod and Faora(the lady right-hand-man to Zod who kicked everyone's ### nearly everytime she was on screen) in Smallville.... who was the taller Kryptonian fighting alongside Faora? I know he has a name, but I can't remember it...

Non?

 

[Team Legacy]

Took my boys on Fathers day to see it. One fell asleep, the other after what seemed like an hour, looked at me and said, "When are we gong to see a fight?" So yeah, the story built and built and built and built and built and...

Liked the moments with Costner and Crowe. Both of them really added to the whole thing and made the movie IMO. Without them, the movie would have seriously been hurting.

Thought he fell for Lois way too fast. That lacked storyline. Sure dude has had offers, why now?

The whole Superman on the cross thing off the airplane was obvious and imo, weaksauce. I mean really? Why impersonate Jesus and put people in a tizzy?

The ending was great. Enjoyed seeing him go to work like that. Overall though, I liked it and enjoyed going with my boys.

 

[Run It Up]

Loved it, which was a complete surprise as I'm not a DC fan and definitely not a Superman fan.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

 

[Emerson Biggens]

I didnt like it.

It was like I was watching pop up videos with all the explaining. Okay Kal, Im going to hit you now because that is what Im programmed to do. I was programmed to only do one thing on your planet, be evil. So, remember that when I hit you. You werent programmed for only one thing, because remember, you grew up here, on Earth. So, knowing that, Ill understand what youre up to when youre conflicted about how to proceed during our fight.

Too much explaining to Kal (also for the audience), way too long fight scenes of the same stuff, not near enough storyline for him and Lois.

I liked Russell Crowe and Kevin Costner, but I like both of them in pretty much everything.

The weird thing was it felt like it was only about a little over an hour in when it ended, but it was well over two hours. That usually doesnt happen to me on movies I dont like.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

Less of a comparison...more of a bludgeoning over the head the entire film. That said, all of the father/son stuff hit home, and I liked it quite a bit. I could have gone without the extra one-on-one with Zod...as someone mentioned earlier, he could have been taken care of with the rest of the group, and I would have been fine with that.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

Seriously. Jesus didn't have half the powers that Superman has. They may as well have compared him to a kangaroo.

 

[matuski]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

Who do you think would win?

 

[NCCommish]

You guys are a bit late to the Jesus comparison. It has been a fixture of the story since it began. His last name El means god in Hebrew. Originally his parents names were Mary and Joseph. And really it goes on from there. Heck at this point Supes has even died and been resurrected.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I feel like people have been negative towards this franchise (and the upcoming Justice League movies) since they were announced. I've seen a lot of, "Ohhh, that's not how Marvel did it, that'll never work!" all over the Internet in regards to the JLA movie... Just leaves me wondering how much, if any, of the negativity towards this Superman movie is because it's DC and not Marvel. Kind of how Apple fanboys nitpick tech from any other company regardless of how good it is - they're just incapable of appreciating anything non-Apple.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

You guys are a bit late to the Jesus comparison. It has been a fixture of the story since it began. His last name El means god in Hebrew. Originally his parents names were Mary and Joseph. And really it goes on from there. Heck at this point Supes has even died and been resurrected.

For sure. And let's face it - in western culture ANY self sacrificing character is going to be likened to Jesus.

Jesus IS the archetype for this type of figure.

 

[Brady Marino]

The movie broke June Box office records, so I think it's safe to say we get a sequel or two outta this one.

I think they really need to kill it with Lex Luthor. Much like the Joker in the Batman trilogy basically made that series, whoever gets Lex needs to nail it.

Someone on another forum mentioned Jason Isaacs for Lex. This is a good choice. Who do you guys think would play a good Lex?

John Malkovich? Too old??

He and Sean Bean came to mind for me.

I can't imagine Boromir/Ned Stark playing the obnoxious and ingenious Lex Luthor.

Why not bring back Kevin Spacey? He was the bright point of the last Superman movie.

 

[matuski]

You guys are a bit late to the Jesus comparison. It has been a fixture of the story since it began. His last name El means god in Hebrew. Originally his parents names were Mary and Joseph. And really it goes on from there. Heck at this point Supes has even died and been resurrected.

For sure. And let's face it - in western culture ANY self sacrificing character is going to be likened to Jesus.

Jesus IS the archetype for this type of figure.

Who was the archetype for Jesus?

 

[NCCommish]

You guys are a bit late to the Jesus comparison. It has been a fixture of the story since it began. His last name El means god in Hebrew. Originally his parents names were Mary and Joseph. And really it goes on from there. Heck at this point Supes has even died and been resurrected.

For sure. And let's face it - in western culture ANY self sacrificing character is going to be likened to Jesus.

Jesus IS the archetype for this type of figure.

Who was the archetype for Jesus?

The mythological Greek/Roman hero gods who went before him mostly. But we don't really want to start that tangent do we?

 

[NCCommish]

I feel like people have been negative towards this franchise (and the upcoming Justice League movies) since they were announced. I've seen a lot of, "Ohhh, that's not how Marvel did it, that'll never work!" all over the Internet in regards to the JLA movie... Just leaves me wondering how much, if any, of the negativity towards this Superman movie is because it's DC and not Marvel. Kind of how Apple fanboys nitpick tech from any other company regardless of how good it is - they're just incapable of appreciating anything non-Apple.

I have always been a Marvel guy, never been a huge Superman fan. But still all I'm looking for is a good movie. I expect this one to be different from Avengers or whatever Marvel does. But if I like it, I like it brand name won't change that. I am going to check it out this weekend. Thought I'd skip the initial hubbub.

 

[Jobber]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

Who do you think would win?

Well, considering that in reality, Jesus Christ was just a nice guy who was good at storytelling...I think Superman wins this fight.

 

[Braktastic]

When Superman fights General Zod and Faora(the lady right-hand-man to Zod who kicked everyone's ### nearly everytime she was on screen) in Smallville.... who was the taller Kryptonian fighting alongside Faora? I know he has a name, but I can't remember it...

Non?

No, Non was the big lug in Donner/Lester's Superman II. In Man of Steel, there are a lot more Kryptonian villians, and it is very hard for the audience to tell any of them apart aside from General Dru-Zod and Faora-Ul. Although I'm pretty sure the Kryptonian brute in this film is Tor-An, and the scientist is Jax-Ur. Beyond that my geek Midichlorine count isn't high enough to know who the hell the other ones are.

 

[Jayrok]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

Who do you think would win?

Well, considering that in reality, Jesus Christ was just a nice guy who was good at storytelling...I think Superman wins this fight.

Are you saying Jesus Christ couldn't hit a cur... Are you saying Jesus Christ couldn't defeat a being he created from a planet he created?

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

Now?

Not a new metaphor

 

[Daywalker]

Spoiler

On the ship Superman carried away from the Arctic area their was a pod that was open. Perhaps suggesting someone had gotten out. It was when Superman wiped the dust away from the other pod to see the decrepit corpse. Is that a reveal to something to come?

 

[Run It Up]

You guys are a bit late to the Jesus comparison. It has been a fixture of the story since it began. His last name El means god in Hebrew. Originally his parents names were Mary and Joseph. And really it goes on from there. Heck at this point Supes has even died and been resurrected.

For sure. And let's face it - in western culture ANY self sacrificing character is going to be likened to Jesus.

Jesus IS the archetype for this type of figure.

Who was the archetype for Jesus?

Mithra

 

[Braktastic]

Spoiler

On the ship Superman carried away from the Arctic area their was a pod that was open. Perhaps suggesting someone had gotten out. It was when Superman wiped the dust away from the other pod to see the decrepit corpse. Is that a reveal to something to come?

Possibly. The Man of Steel prequel comic delvels into the background story concerning that ship.

 

[Uwe Blab]

Great rundown of the movie...obviously spoilers galore.

http://io9.com/the-most-important-scenes-from-man-of-steel-as-i-remem-516405346

 

[Thunderlips]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see them either pass over Lex Luthor entirely or have him be a secondary character in the next film. I'd love to see Brainiac and Darkseid introduced, although I can see why they might steer away from the later with Marvel using his equivalent character in their current cinematic story arc.

They need to have a character with some firepower though. Another Luthor and kryptonite movie is exactly what doesn't need to be done again.

I think I would like to see Luthor but in a different way - as the mastermind behind something and make it a character that can be in a movie or two as a larger arc. The whole ending a super villan in one movie thing isn't exactly in keeping with the comics and I think forces them to sometimes make bad decisions to keep getting new bad guys. So do something where Lex is the boss and Superman has to stop whatever he is doing but doesn't catch Lex at the end - almost Empire Strikes Back like.And I agree with the poster that said Lex needs to be a homerun - and they need him to be much much darker than the others. Spacey was ok and HAckman nailed it perfectly, but there was too much comedy in both. They need to make him sinister and evil without humor.

See I disagree. Again I go back to Smallville. They develop Lex as someone who wasn't evil per se but felt like these things he did were necessary for securing Earth from aliens like Superman. He becomes evil to outsiders but to him it is all the ends justify the means. He loses himself in that and it makes for a far more complex interesting character than the cardboard cut out villain.

That's the Luthor that they'll use. They'll pull Luthors central character personality from books like Superman:Red Son.

 

[Anarchy99]

I thought it was meh, but I will admit to not being the biggest Superman fan in the first place. Lots of action and breaking things, too little story and character development in my book. Seems to me that a lot of these superhero / big budget action movies are going the way of Transformers, where it's apparently a given that a city has to get destroyed in some epic battle at the end that goes on and on. To me it felt like it could have been 20-30 minutes shorter and not much would have changed in the story telling. It was visually well done and well put together, but it seemed like it was more glitz and not enough substance.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

They are comparing superman to Jesus now? #### the world.

superman has always been spacejesus, noob.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see them either pass over Lex Luthor entirely or have him be a secondary character in the next film. I'd love to see Brainiac and Darkseid introduced, although I can see why they might steer away from the later with Marvel using his equivalent character in their current cinematic story arc.

They need to have a character with some firepower though. Another Luthor and kryptonite movie is exactly what doesn't need to be done again.

I think I would like to see Luthor but in a different way - as the mastermind behind something and make it a character that can be in a movie or two as a larger arc. The whole ending a super villan in one movie thing isn't exactly in keeping with the comics and I think forces them to sometimes make bad decisions to keep getting new bad guys. So do something where Lex is the boss and Superman has to stop whatever he is doing but doesn't catch Lex at the end - almost Empire Strikes Back like.

And I agree with the poster that said Lex needs to be a homerun - and they need him to be much much darker than the others. Spacey was ok and HAckman nailed it perfectly, but there was too much comedy in both. They need to make him sinister and evil without humor.

See I disagree. Again I go back to Smallville. They develop Lex as someone who wasn't evil per se but felt like these things he did were necessary for securing Earth from aliens like Superman. He becomes evil to outsiders but to him it is all the ends justify the means. He loses himself in that and it makes for a far more complex interesting character than the cardboard cut out villain.

I am totally gay for michael rosenbaum -- he was the only good part of that show, but I doubt a movie allows enough time for a character like his.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I thought it was pretty disjointed throughout, and the last half hour really dragged. It got to be like a transformers movie: 2-3 super beings duking it out with lots of collateral damage and collapsing skyscrapers. Yay. The ending was really corny.

The first hour or so was money, though.