Man, really LT is getting just like SA. (1 Viewer)

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Wow, i swear i thought he would be Priest and Faulk like even now, but it looks like i may have to really just realize LT isnt LT anymore we used to being acoustomed to.

I thought i did good trading for him this year, hoping he would rebound. Dont look like it though.

I can start 5 and i dont think he makes my playoff roster at all, now that crazy to me.

Benson, Cedric CIN RB 60.20 10 FA

Choice, Tashard DAL RB ® 20.90 10 3.12

Graham, Earnest TBB RB (I) 124.85 10 FA

Hillis, Peyton DEN RB ® (P) 88.30 8 FA

Jackson, Brandon GBP RB (P) 75.00 8 FA

Moats, Ryan HOU RB 5.10 2 FA

Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® (P) 171.20 2 2.04

Sproles, Darren SDC RB 66.60 9 4.10

Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 202.50 9 FA

Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR 171.10 6 FA

Chambers, Chris SDC WR 91.80 9 FA

Doucet, Early ARI WR ® 13.00 7 3.01

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 232.50 7 FA

Hester, Devin CHI WR 102.30 8 FA

Hixon, Domenik NYG WR (P) 71.90 4 FA

Johnson, Calvin DET WR 200.80 4 FA

Robinson, Laurent ATL WR (O)

Im really set to go forth without him.

Anyone else sitting the "MAN" and rolling with other options for the playoffs?

 

[finito]

is Ryan Grant out for the rest of the season or something? Is Brandon Jackson the sure-fire starter? Not sure why you'd start him over LT.

 

[Nate]

A quick search would find about a dozen threads filled with the same complaining.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

LOL, i guess LT owners all feel the same i guess.

Just was sitting here thinking how far he has fallen.

Far enough for me to consider some WW foddlers over him.

shocker.

 

[lacesout]

LOL, i guess LT owners all feel the same i guess.Just was sitting here thinking how far he has fallen. Far enough for me to consider some WW foddlers over him. shocker.

Lingering foot injury CheckBad Defense making you play catchup CheckInconsistant QB play CheckIts not that hes fallen off that much its together all those things take away from what they used to do.

 

[footballnerd]

LT has been averaging 14.22 fantasy points the past 4 weeks in my PPR league. Not exactly what I hoped for when I draft him first, but definitely way more solid than his early season production. I'm not down at all about him and will definitely be rolling LT in Week 14 of the playoffs vs DAH RAAAIIIDUUUHS!!!

 

[EdwardCat]

If anyone has taken even a tiny bit of time to watch a San Diego game, they'd see that he has absolutely no blocking. He has NOTHING to work with. I don't care how good of a RB you are. There is simply no room for LT to run. In addition, they are a pass first team right now and Rivers has been pretty bad as of late. Also, if people would pay attention, LT has lead the team in receiving a few times recently. He is gaining yards through the air. When you add his receiving and rushing yards, it adds up to a respectable accumulation. Yes, he's slowing down. He could just as easily bounce back next year.

 

[FUBAR]

He's still a top 15 RB in my leagues, not what we want, but certainly startable.

14 vs Raiders 7th worst run D

15 at Chiefs 2nd worst run D

16 at Buccaneers 8th best run D

17 vs Broncos 3rd worst run D

Ok, so it sucks that he faces a tough D in the usual Super Bowl week, but that's a pretty nice stretch.

 

[Crippler]

Totally disagree with this thread statement

LT looked very fast still on the weekend. He made a couple of catches and is still very fast. He is the #11 scoring RB in my home league and I think he has many years left in him and is no where near Alexander

Not only has the OL sucked bad this year and was mentioned many times in the game, but this week, Jacob Hester is a terrible FB. The man missed 5 or more blocks and LT was getting hit almost immediately. Add in the OL is missing something and I dont think Adrian Peterson would do any better in the end. He is about as done as Thomas Jones is right now.

 

[Interseptopus]

I am getting real tired of people referring to any RB who dominated the league and regressed a little as "turning into SA"

SA had what, 4-5 years of success in the NFL?I don't feel like looking it up.

LT has dominated the league since he was drafted.

Watching NFL Live today, you can really see that it's not LTs fault. Countless times he is dodging defenders 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. He's not the problem.

And it doesn't help that SD has gone from a run first team to a pass first team. This is a completely different SD team than we've ever seen before. They've got the best player in the game and they are not getting him the ball at every chance they get. And their record is suffering because of it.

Give LT a line and I'm sure he does much better than he has this season. You LT owners have been spoiled

DRDR

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

LT is back to about his production from his early years when the chargers really sucked. Philip Rivers inconsistency makes him one of the most overrated QB's this season

 

[EdwardCat]

You LT owners have been spoiled

We sure have...

 

[massraider]

He does not look the same. Blame the supporting cast if you want. But he has had less than this before, and done a lot more with it.

 

[Interseptopus]

You LT owners have been spoiled

We sure have...

Traded him last year before the deadline. I knew this was approaching. He's not going to lead the league every year! In fact, FBG had an article on him in faceoffs or spotlight. No RB has finished #1 more than 2 years in a row, ever. However, regardless, he's ranked 11th in total points this year in my league and 13th in pp/g among RBs.Given he was probably taken #1 overall in your league, which I would have passed on (not sure who I would have taken, probably would have taken LT and tried to trade him). The guy is almost a top 10 RB spending half the year hurt with a toe injury and with an awful OL this season. Actually speaks of his talent even more considering those 2 things!DRDR

 

[EdwardCat]

I honestly believe he will still be a top 7 back next year as well.

 

[phthalatemagic]

He does not look the same. Blame the supporting cast if you want. But he has had less than this before, and done a lot more with it.

This is one of the points LT fans like to make when they defend his legacy, but now that he's lost what he once had they refuse to acknowledge it.

 

[brutha]

LOL, i guess LT owners all feel the same i guess.Just was sitting here thinking how far he has fallen. Far enough for me to consider some WW foddlers over him. shocker.

Lingering foot injury CheckBad Defense making you play catchup CheckInconsistant QB play Check

Really lame excuses CheckHe's done people.

 

[Blue-Kun]

In PPR he's still the 10th ranked RB and averaging 16 pts a game. That's hardly falling off the cliff like SA did. In fact that's just a lot of crying over nothing. For normal scoring, then yes you have more of a reason, 13th ranked and averaging 12-13 pts a game.

For as ugly and ineffectively he's been at times on the field, fantasy-wise he's still plenty relevant.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Tomlinson has dipped a little, but SA he is not. And those of you talking about Rivers inconsistent play should quit believing everything you read and actually watch a game. He has been the lone bright spot on their offense all season.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Tomlinson has dipped a little, but SA he is not. And those of you talking about Rivers inconsistent play should quit believing everything you read and actually watch a game. He has been the lone bright spot on their offense all season.

agreed...rivers with 3000 yards and 23 td`s is nothing to scoff at...and 4 more games to go

 

[bonesman]

Tomlinson has dipped a little, but SA he is not. And those of you talking about Rivers inconsistent play should quit believing everything you read and actually watch a game. He has been the lone bright spot on their offense all season.

agreed...rivers with 3000 yards and 23 td`s is nothing to scoff at...and 4 more games to go

yea... nice numbers... but he's had a few key turnovers right when they were about to score... and that has cost them games. I think he'll definitely be overrated going into next year.

 

[PahtyTom]

LOL, i guess LT owners all feel the same i guess.Just was sitting here thinking how far he has fallen. Far enough for me to consider some WW foddlers over him. shocker.

Lingering foot injury CheckBad Defense making you play catchup CheckInconsistant QB play CheckIts not that hes fallen off that much its together all those things take away from what they used to do.

Inconsistent QB play? Rivers has been great this year.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Tomlinson has dipped a little, but SA he is not. And those of you talking about Rivers inconsistent play should quit believing everything you read and actually watch a game. He has been the lone bright spot on their offense all season.

agreed...rivers with 3000 yards and 23 td`s is nothing to scoff at...and 4 more games to go

yea... nice numbers... but he's had a few key turnovers right when they were about to score... and that has cost them games. I think he'll definitely be overrated going into next year.

So Peyton, Warner, Rodgers, Brees, Cutler, and Favre all have avoided turning the ball over at crucial points of games this year? You don't make a valid argument for Rivers being Tomlinson's problem or to him being overrated for FF purposes. He is top 5 qb this year, and has the supporting cast to repeat.

 

[bonesman]

Tomlinson has dipped a little, but SA he is not. And those of you talking about Rivers inconsistent play should quit believing everything you read and actually watch a game. He has been the lone bright spot on their offense all season.

agreed...rivers with 3000 yards and 23 td`s is nothing to scoff at...and 4 more games to go

yea... nice numbers... but he's had a few key turnovers right when they were about to score... and that has cost them games. I think he'll definitely be overrated going into next year.

So Peyton, Warner, Rodgers, Brees, Cutler, and Favre all have avoided turning the ball over at crucial points of games this year? You don't make a valid argument for Rivers being Tomlinson's problem or to him being overrated for FF purposes. He is top 5 qb this year, and has the supporting cast to repeat.

You're putting a WHOLE lot of words in my mouth and extrapolating points I was not implying or inferring. Though your comment about Rivers being top 5 proves my point about him being overrated going into next year

 

[Fantasy Bum]

LT will be a nice value pick next season.

 

[zamboni]

He does not look the same. Blame the supporting cast if you want. But he has had less than this before, and done a lot more with it.

I tend to agree with this. When LT first came into the league, it seemed to be universally accepted that his OL was pretty poor and was doing him no favors. Yet he still managed to put up monster numbers like Barry Sanders did with a poor OL.As good as LT still is, it seems that he has lost just enough that he can't do it on his own anymore. Also the loss of Lorenzo Neal, who team brass seemed to have thought that he was done, seems to be hurting more than expected. Neal seems to be doing a fine job for the venerable Leron McClain.

 

[phthalatemagic]

LT will be a nice value pick next season.

No he won't. He'll still be taken in the top 4 next year, and that person will get burned by the pick.

 

[phthalatemagic]

the venerable Leron McClain.

Isn't he a 2nd year guy?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I wouldnt sit him against oakland.

 

[Fingers Freddie]

If anyone has taken even a tiny bit of time to watch a San Diego game, they'd see that he has absolutely no blocking. He has NOTHING to work with. I don't care how good of a RB you are. There is simply no room for LT to run. In addition, they are a pass first team right now and Rivers has been pretty bad as of late. Also, if people would pay attention, LT has lead the team in receiving a few times recently. He is gaining yards through the air. When you add his receiving and rushing yards, it adds up to a respectable accumulation. Yes, he's slowing down. He could just as easily bounce back next year.

I agree with this post. It is one thing have mediocore blocking (like Lt had early in his career) but it is obvious that this year he has awful blocking. I also agree that if you are in a PPR league he still holds "decent" value.

 

[fsufan]

I am getting real tired of people referring to any RB who dominated the league and regressed a little as "turning into SA"SA had what, 4-5 years of success in the NFL?I don't feel like looking it up.LT has dominated the league since he was drafted. Watching NFL Live today, you can really see that it's not LTs fault. Countless times he is dodging defenders 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. He's not the problem. And it doesn't help that SD has gone from a run first team to a pass first team. This is a completely different SD team than we've ever seen before. They've got the best player in the game and they are not getting him the ball at every chance they get. And their record is suffering because of it. Give LT a line and I'm sure he does much better than he has this season. You LT owners have been spoiledDRDR

someone that understands LT's and SD's problems. LT has the right match ups the next 2 weeks to get your FF team to your FF bowl.

 

[-OZ-]

LT will be a nice value pick next season.

No he won't. He'll still be taken in the top 4 next year, and that person will get burned by the pick.

I sort of agree. Top 5 pick almost for sure in most leagues, he'll probably be around #10-15, so not good value.

 

[BoltBacker]

He does not look the same. Blame the supporting cast if you want. But he has had less than this before, and done a lot more with it.

This is one of the points LT fans like to make when they defend his legacy, but now that he's lost what he once had they refuse to acknowledge it.

I'm an LT fan and always will be but I absolutely recognize this is not the same guy he was 2 years ago. I don't think he'll fade the way SA did though because he started out with more talent and because his skill-set is more diverse.What gets me is people in the "SEE Norv Turner is an idiot!" camp also like to pretend that the LT that Turner is working with is the same one that played in Marty's last year with the team.I'm sure AJ will get a lot of blame for letting M.Turner walk for nothing but believe me there weren't many people saying that LT might be due for a precipitous decline and they should have franchised M.Turner for one year. Plenty of Charger fans were telling me all the reasons that would be a bad move.

 

[thatguy]

He still seems pretty quick to me. We haven't had much opportunity to see his top end speed this season as he hasn't broken into the open field on a regular basis like he used to. But I dunno, like I said, he still seems really quick.

 

[the spanker]

He does not look the same. Blame the supporting cast if you want. But he has had less than this before, and done a lot more with it.

This is one of the points LT fans like to make when they defend his legacy, but now that he's lost what he once had they refuse to acknowledge it.

I'm an LT fan and always will be but I absolutely recognize this is not the same guy he was 2 years ago. I don't think he'll fade the way SA did though because he started out with more talent and because his skill-set is more diverse.What gets me is people in the "SEE Norv Turner is an idiot!" camp also like to pretend that the LT that Turner is working with is the same one that played in Marty's last year with the team.I'm sure AJ will get a lot of blame for letting M.Turner walk for nothing but believe me there weren't many people saying that LT might be due for a precipitous decline and they should have franchised M.Turner for one year. Plenty of Charger fans were telling me all the reasons that would be a bad move.

Leave Turner out of it. What's done is done in SD. If Turner were still there, LT owners would be in even more of a pickle because Turner would be taking more carries like Rhodes is doing with Addai right now.I'll take what I can get from LT right now. It's not the individual parts that win in FF, it's the sum of those parts and right now LT is still a solid #RB 2 going forward. I'm happy to have him.

 

[The_Man]

LT will be a nice value pick next season.

No he won't. He'll still be taken in the top 4 next year, and that person will get burned by the pick.

I sort of agree. Top 5 pick almost for sure in most leagues, he'll probably be around #10-15, so not good value.

Will LT really be a top 5 pick next year? In my league, I'm thinking these 10 RBs might well go before him:APWestbrookCJohnsonLynchSJacksonTurnerPortisForteBarberSlatonI think he will be good value. Reminds me of Portis heading into last season.

 

[thatguy]

LT will be a nice value pick next season.

No he won't. He'll still be taken in the top 4 next year, and that person will get burned by the pick.

I sort of agree. Top 5 pick almost for sure in most leagues, he'll probably be around #10-15, so not good value.

Will LT really be a top 5 pick next year? In my league, I'm thinking these 10 RBs might well go before him:AP

Westbrook

CJohnson

Lynch

SJackson

Turner

Portis

Forte

Barber

Slaton



I think he will be good value. Reminds me of Portis heading into last season.

Except that Portis was 26 years old heading into last season. LT will be 30 years old heading into next season.

 

[Finless]

Many of us saw this coming. The others chose to smugly have a seat in denial aisle.

 

[FUBAR]

LT will be a nice value pick next season.

No he won't. He'll still be taken in the top 4 next year, and that person will get burned by the pick.

I sort of agree. Top 5 pick almost for sure in most leagues, he'll probably be around #10-15, so not good value.

Will LT really be a top 5 pick next year? In my league, I'm thinking these 10 RBs might well go before him:AP

Westbrook

CJohnson

Lynch

SJackson

Turner

Portis

Forte

Barber

Slaton



I think he will be good value. Reminds me of Portis heading into last season.

Except that Portis was 26 years old heading into last season. LT will be 30 years old heading into next season.

As good as Portis is, he's never been a "big name". LT will be drafted in many leagues for name value moreso than what we should expect. In more informed leagues, he should be a 2nd round pick.

 

[BoltBacker]

Many of us saw this coming. The others chose to smugly have a seat in denial aisle.

A lot of people saw this coming back in 2005 and missed out on a lot of good years. It's going to happen to all RB's at some point.... so I guess I see it coming for all of them.

 

[phthalatemagic]

He does not look the same. Blame the supporting cast if you want. But he has had less than this before, and done a lot more with it.

This is one of the points LT fans like to make when they defend his legacy, but now that he's lost what he once had they refuse to acknowledge it.

I'm an LT fan and always will be but I absolutely recognize this is not the same guy he was 2 years ago. I don't think he'll fade the way SA did though because he started out with more talent and because his skill-set is more diverse.

Gotta respect this. Not too many LT fans on this board can say the same thing as you. Most will scramble to blame it on the OL play, or his lingering injuries, or something else they can dream up. Bottom line is that LT is getting old. Those same people probably couldn't handle their childhood dog getting cataracts either, but these types of things happen.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I'm sure AJ will get a lot of blame for letting M.Turner walk for nothing but believe me there weren't many people saying that LT might be due for a precipitous decline and they should have franchised M.Turner for one year. Plenty of Charger fans were telling me all the reasons that would be a bad move.

Turner was franchised one year wasn't he? And AJ was asking the moon and the stars for him. He passed on a 1st rounder that was being offered by either Tennessee or Dallas (not sure) to keep Turner. AJ's overblown ego ran Marty out of town and held M Turner too long. Mock the Detroit Lions all you want for being a bad organization but they had enough sense to take a good deal when one was offered for Roy Williams this year. The Chargers should have done the same with Michael Turner.