Spartans346
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I am surprised I haven't heard more about this game. Personally, I think it is a good thing.
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Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Problem is, it might excite the announcers calling the game -- to the point of orgasmic bliss. For those who can handle grown men squealing and spilling over with girlish enthusiasm it shouldn't be a problem, but if I happen to watch said game I'm going to have to mute it.
I agree 100%. A few guys have given me "this should be exciting" - at this point, since I have nobody starting in that game, I may not watch out of GP.
It's a smaller percentage than it used to be but this is why the general populace still
at fantasy football.J
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Sorry Joe - didn't mean to disgrace "us" with my comment.It's a smaller percentage than it used to be but this is why the general populace still
Dreamer
Footballguy
The kick in the pants at the end gets meI know one thing... the new SportsCenter commercial with the Manning brothers getting a tour of ESPN studios is a classic.
.And when Archie looks back at them. 
cdwood
Footballguy
Manning Bowl...does anyone care?
Yes there are those who care, otherwise the NFL and NBC wouldn't make it their Sunday Night Football game for the opening week.
Personally, I care because its the SNF game (ie no other football game on at the time). Otherwise, its just another football game on my NFL Picks Pool at work.
Christopher
Yes there are those who care, otherwise the NFL and NBC wouldn't make it their Sunday Night Football game for the opening week.
Personally, I care because its the SNF game (ie no other football game on at the time). Otherwise, its just another football game on my NFL Picks Pool at work.
Christopher
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
The other 100 players on those two teams couldnn't care less about the Manning sibling rivalry. It's as meaningless as a game gets in the NFL given that it's not even a game being played by teams in the same conference. If you have to lose a game better that it's to a non conference opponent.
Two of the best teams in the NFL play in prime time and it's "as meaningless as a game gets in the NFL" ?I would disagree.J
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Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
Yep. It's a non division game. Doesn't matter if it's prime time or 1pm sunday afternoon. If you have to lose a game, always best to lose to a non conference opponent.
bostiguy
Footballguy
Was this game all part of the scheduling plan for the NFL or was it just coincidence that these two were meeting already?
I understand they chose it for SNF after the schedule but if this were pre-planned I think it's a pathetic attempt to generate publicity. If both these teams are as good as many believe it would be way more entertaining to let them meet in the post season (SuperBowl)
Don't get me wrong I want to see it but I just hope it wasn't a premeditated event.
I understand they chose it for SNF after the schedule but if this were pre-planned I think it's a pathetic attempt to generate publicity. If both these teams are as good as many believe it would be way more entertaining to let them meet in the post season (SuperBowl)
Don't get me wrong I want to see it but I just hope it wasn't a premeditated event.
my man otis
Footballguy
should be a great game and it's definitely a good thing for the league.
i can't see how most fans of the game would disagree.
i can't see how most fans of the game would disagree.
gump
Footballguy
The Manning jealosy that people mask as dislike never ceases to amaze me.
It's a pretty big deal considering it's never happened before. If it were Brady vs Brady I'm sure many would feel different.
Edit to add...I don't mean to diss the people who don't care about this game from a personal standpoint. We all have our opinions and likes/dislikes.
BUT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GREAT FOR THE NFL...then you aren't thinking this through.
It's a pretty big deal considering it's never happened before. If it were Brady vs Brady I'm sure many would feel different.
Edit to add...I don't mean to diss the people who don't care about this game from a personal standpoint. We all have our opinions and likes/dislikes.
BUT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GREAT FOR THE NFL...then you aren't thinking this through.
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ChampBailey24
Footballguy
Wow....some of you really look frustrated. Indy vs NYG looks like a great game to me, and the Manning brothers are playing so it will be fun to watch. I don't particularly care about the matchup between the brothers but I'm definetely looking forward to it.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Here is what I like...someone starting a thread about something they prefer not to hear about!
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
I'm a big fan of the Mannings. I also don't think it's a big game. I stated why. Sure, it should be a fun game to watch. I'll be tuned in. Being a SKins fan, I'll be rooting for the Colts. Still, it's not a big game and I don't REALLY care who wins. As for it being a great game for the NFL, well, it simply doesn't matter. The NFL has grown leaps and bounds over the years and it didn't need either of the Mannings to do so. =Tennis and Golf may need story lines but the NFL doesn't.
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
I guarantee that I'll see at least 2 dozen games this year that are more competitive. I'll go so far as to say that it won't even be the most competitive game that's played this weekend.
Killerclown
Footballguy
whoa a bold prediction when there is 15 other games that weekend.
incubus0
Footballguy
It ads an added dimension to an already good match-up, so yeah, I care.
Fantasy wise, it will be a good indicator of what the players around these 2 are willing to do for them, and in turn, shows how much love and respect they have for their QBs. The guys have to know this game means just a bit more to each of the Manning brothers, and we'll see who that means anything to on their teams.
I'm even strongly considering starting Amani Toomer in my flex spot because watching interviews with the guy throughout his career, he seems like the type that would want to be there for his teammate.
Fantasy wise, it will be a good indicator of what the players around these 2 are willing to do for them, and in turn, shows how much love and respect they have for their QBs. The guys have to know this game means just a bit more to each of the Manning brothers, and we'll see who that means anything to on their teams.
I'm even strongly considering starting Amani Toomer in my flex spot because watching interviews with the guy throughout his career, he seems like the type that would want to be there for his teammate.
Hi Skins,I'd argue that it does matter. A lot. The NFL marketing games like this is one of the reasons it's grown by leaps and bounds. The league would absolutley be fine if the Mannings retired tomorrow. But you're kidding yourself if you don't think the league needs a whole bunch of Manning types, as well as the Terrell Owens and Randy Moss types to do so.As a product, the NFL has few peers in both quality and equally importantly, marketing. Manning brothers area huge part of that.J
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Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
I'd argue that gambling is what makes the NFL go round. THe story lines that come from the antics of the TO's and McNabb's of the NFL do nothing for the game or for the revenue. Were it not for gambling, the NFL wouldn't be what it is today. Without TO or people like him(or without brother vs brother story lines) the NFL would get along just fine.Joe Bryant said:
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
Pitt vs Miami is a bigger game. Any interconference game is bigger than a game between to teams who area not in the same conference(and that's the truth no matter how many Mannings are on the field in any particular game).icehouse said:How will anyone win....one of them has to choke it away....Nevermind...Peyton will probably pull it out as this game isn't "important".
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
gump said:
Why would people be jealous of the Mannings but not Brady? No, I think a lot of people just don't like them. They're doofs, they choke away big games, and when it comes to Peyton, displaces blame when it clearly falls on him. To some people they are simply very unlikable. And when a player is praised unconditionally by the media at every oppurtunity, it can often make it worse.Is this game good for the NFL? Sure. It has a "storyline". Of course it's going to get attention. But I don't think that means everybody who tunes in will do so because they love the Mannings -- I think many people will tune in to ridicule them and "dislike" them. Although, they'll both probably play very well, because after all, it is the regular season.
Prof. Chaos
Footballguy
Starting Peyton in my dynasty league, Eli in my redraft league. Yep I care. 
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I wonder how Joe and the boys like paying for bandwidth just so you can make a useless and overused comment like this. But, I guess for some, this never gets old.icehouse said:How will anyone win....one of them has to choke it away....Nevermind...Peyton will probably pull it out as this game isn't "important".
Hi skins,It'd be dumb to argue gambling isn't a big deal. But I'd disagree it's on the level of "making the NFL go round". I just think the fan base is way too big and there are tons of people that don't gamble at all on the league.I can't say I can recall ever having placed a bet on an NFL game. It's not like I'm above it, I just don't care to bet on it. I would think tons of NFL fans are the same way. Probably not the Shark Pool. But we all know the SP is nothing like a representative sample of NFL fans. These guys are by definition hardcore. I just don't think the average guy watching the game on Sunday has a significant bet riding on the game. Maybe that's totally naive. I dunno.I think it's the marketing and the quality of the product that makes the league what it is. Gambling is just as accessible for baseball, hockey and basketball. But the NFL is killing them because it markets a better procuct in my opinion.J
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It's no problem, pizza. I've resigned myself to it being that way until or unless Manning ever singlehandedly wins at least two Super Bowls. It's ok. JI wonder how Joe and the boys like paying for bandwidth just so you can make a useless and overused comment like this. But, I guess for some, this never gets old.icehouse said:How will anyone win....one of them has to choke it away....Nevermind...Peyton will probably pull it out as this game isn't "important".
mr. furley
Footballguy
i care because it's OPENING NIGHT!
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
Nobody said it was meaningless. Read the posts before commenting. AS MEANINGLESS AS IT GETS IN THE NFL. NOT A BIG GAME relative to others being played. Not a division game. Not an interconference game. If you have to lose a game(and one of these teams will lose), this is the one to lose.
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
Hello,True but those others sports aren't bet on as much in Vegas as football is(college and pro). The NFL knows that gambling is a big part of it's fan base. It's always been that way. And my original point was that the NFL wasn't built on silly story lines and doesn't need them. The people who are listening and reading are already going to watch. That's a product of modern world.quite a bit about the drama that's created around these guys. Sports radio is filled with this as I'm sure you know.In any event, the mannings could leave the game tomorrow and the NFL wouldn't suffer one big. The ratings would not drop and the level of enjoyment that we football fans receive on sundays(and thursdays and mondays) would not decline. They(the main stream) will make a big deal about the game because two brothers are starting. Okay, that's interesting but it's no more interesting than them making it to the Big leagues in the first place. Toss in the fact that the old man played and it's more interesting. Still doesn't make this a "big game".
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
I agree that the NFL does a better job marketing but they also have a better product to market. Most people watch the games on TV. The NFL was MADE for tv. The other sports(baseball, hockey and basketball) are better live. And they also deal with a shorter season and they play the games on sunday and monday(for the most part) so now you're talking about an event being made out of their sport. Anyway, my only point of contention here was that this particular game was "BIG". It's really not.It's interesting and should be exciting. "BIG? No way. I'll save that moniker for the game played by division rivals, playoff games and games being played down the stretch that have playoff implications.
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I don't want him to win it singlehandedly (not possible in football). Just don't play like sh*% and then try to blame it on others. His numbers from the playoff losses are pretty bad, and one could argue that he has more control of his offense (as far as freedom and play calling) than most QB's have ever had.It's no problem, pizza. I've resigned myself to it being that way until or unless Manning ever singlehandedly wins at least two Super Bowls. It's ok. JI wonder how Joe and the boys like paying for bandwidth just so you can make a useless and overused comment like this. But, I guess for some, this never gets old.icehouse said:How will anyone win....one of them has to choke it away....Nevermind...Peyton will probably pull it out as this game isn't "important".
shadow2k
Footballguy
Two playoff caliber teams with very good offenses going head to head...yeah, I care. I don't care about the little Manning side-show, that's pure fluff to me. I just want to watch good football.
If you're only wanting to watch games because you own them on your FF team, you probably need a new hobby anyway.
If you're only wanting to watch games because you own them on your FF team, you probably need a new hobby anyway.
ren hoek
Footballguy
whoa whoa whoa.. are you saying that the game will be played this thursday night?i care because it's OPENING NIGHT!
Jayrod
Footballguy
Most here know this already, but scheduling is done on a pre-planned rotating basis with a couple of games determined by the previous season's results. The Manning's will play each other once every four years, unless they meet in the Superbowl or one of them changes teams.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i could care less. should be a good game though.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Maybe what the Manning brothers need to do is cuss out the coach? Or better yet, decide they aren't practicing all week, then demand that they start on Sunday. Would this add the kind of drama that some of the posters on the board need to see?
No, even better, maybe when the Colts score, Peyton can take the ball to midfield, stand on it, and then pull out a camera from his sock and take a picture of himself. Then, from the Giants sideline, a pissed off Eli comes storming the field and tackles Peyton.
Would this be the idiotic acts you Manning bashers would prefer to see?
The jealousy act is tired. Let it rest.
No, even better, maybe when the Colts score, Peyton can take the ball to midfield, stand on it, and then pull out a camera from his sock and take a picture of himself. Then, from the Giants sideline, a pissed off Eli comes storming the field and tackles Peyton.
Would this be the idiotic acts you Manning bashers would prefer to see?
The jealousy act is tired. Let it rest.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Me? I'm holding out for the Thanksgiving matchup between the Broncos and the Chiefs. I saw an ad or 2 (thousand) on the NFL network. I hear they're having games this year.Most advertised game...EVER!!!
gump
Footballguy
Like I said, our feelings on the Mannings are meaningless. But this world would be a better place if more families raised their kids like Archie and his wife did Peyton and Eli.As far as the reasons this game is VERY important to the NFL:gump said:
Is this game good for the NFL? Sure. It has a "storyline". Of course it's going to get attention. But I don't think that means everybody who tunes in will do so because they love the Mannings -- I think many people will tune in to ridicule them and "dislike" them. Although, they'll both probably play very well, because after all, it is the regular season.
1) New TV Deal - the NFL broke the bank with it's new deal, with ESPN and NBC investing the bulk. A good start to SNF is important. I'm guessing the ratings will be higher than they have in a long time. I'm guessing companies looking to advertise feel the same way. I'm guessing NBC is reaping the benefits of that. That leads to $$ for everyone, and is the first step towards a successful deal for all and a BIGGER one down the road.
2) New Commish - Roger Goodell needs to get off on the right foot. This game's success will be the perfect start.
3) The new CBA - part of the new deal is that they are sharing more of the pie, which includes merchandise sales. That part of the pie needs to grow, and jerseys with Manning on the back will help that. The fact that the Giants and Colts are two teams that are in the lower half of the top 10 in total sales helps also. The NFL wants the teams in good markets who have more potential to get visibility and perform well.
4) Fanbase growth - How does the league grow a mature fanbase that is larger than any sport in the country? One way is by bringing new fans into games to watch two brothers play against each other who normally wouldn't care.
