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Ok, so crystal shards... if implemented well this is a great idea by Kabam.

I haven't done my uber post on their board that I've considered, but one criticism I have for them is that too much relies on credits. It makes them uber important to save them for 4-star crystals and masteries, which means we learn to hoard them and never want to spend them. Which hurts Kabam's bottom line so isn't good for them or us.

They should have something else and credits should just be a benny. Look at Clash of Clans. Other than getting your builders early, gems are never actually spent as a resource. The only thing they do is give you helpful boosts to speed things up, buy resources you don't want to wait to earn, etc. They run specials that keep you spending gems and appreciating spending them until you're willing to do it to boost regular game play. Credits should be like gems. They would do better with other things (like crystal shards) to serve Clash's role of gold, elixir, etc, and have credits as things we spend for boosts or crystals, but not as the only way of getting them.

Crystal shards can create that buffer between credits and crystals. Imagine if every story quest fight had a chance of a couple of crystal shards. But playing over time you'd eventually get a 4-star crystal out of it. This is what they need, something that continued play gives you light at the end of the tunnel of getting heroes... something that doesn't require playing longer hours than other players.

That doesn't mean they won't F it up in how they implement it. But if they find a good rate at which we can earn them, I think they can be a positive thing. If they remove existing rewards and just replace them with shards though, it'll suck.
At second glance I'm still liking this.

I am at 300 3-star hero shards, 100 4-star hero shards, and 675 PHC shards. 2000 needed for the crystal.

So those 100 4-star shards are 1/20 of a 4-star hero. If they had given us 1/20th the cost in credits that would be 120 credits worth. I'm not sure where my 4-star shards came from, but 120 credits is a pretty damn good reward compared to the credit awards we normally see. Yes it's going to take awhile to save them up, but the reward rate seems decent.

 
Ok, so crystal shards... if implemented well this is a great idea by Kabam.

I haven't done my uber post on their board that I've considered, but one criticism I have for them is that too much relies on credits. It makes them uber important to save them for 4-star crystals and masteries, which means we learn to hoard them and never want to spend them. Which hurts Kabam's bottom line so isn't good for them or us.

They should have something else and credits should just be a benny. Look at Clash of Clans. Other than getting your builders early, gems are never actually spent as a resource. The only thing they do is give you helpful boosts to speed things up, buy resources you don't want to wait to earn, etc. They run specials that keep you spending gems and appreciating spending them until you're willing to do it to boost regular game play. Credits should be like gems. They would do better with other things (like crystal shards) to serve Clash's role of gold, elixir, etc, and have credits as things we spend for boosts or crystals, but not as the only way of getting them.

Crystal shards can create that buffer between credits and crystals. Imagine if every story quest fight had a chance of a couple of crystal shards. But playing over time you'd eventually get a 4-star crystal out of it. This is what they need, something that continued play gives you light at the end of the tunnel of getting heroes... something that doesn't require playing longer hours than other players.

That doesn't mean they won't F it up in how they implement it. But if they find a good rate at which we can earn them, I think they can be a positive thing. If they remove existing rewards and just replace them with shards though, it'll suck.
At second glance I'm still liking this.

I am at 300 3-star hero shards, 100 4-star hero shards, and 675 PHC shards. 2000 needed for the crystal.

So those 100 4-star shards are 1/20 of a 4-star hero. If they had given us 1/20th the cost in credits that would be 120 credits worth. I'm not sure where my 4-star shards came from, but 120 credits is a pretty damn good reward compared to the credit awards we normally see. Yes it's going to take awhile to save them up, but the reward rate seems decent.
They gave them to us as part of the roll out. From what I have seen they are pretty hard to get.

 
So far they are only Rank Rewards on the tournys. A carrot for the people like me that still play but don't have the time or the team to finish high enough in standings. Hopefully they will expand it to alliance rewards and milestones.

Need something to keep my interest, didn't even place in the Black Panther 4* when I had been inching up on the reward scale. Guess the added 4* Captain Marvel brought out enough folks on the fences. School starting for most kids soon, hopefully makes an impact.

Have over 400 crystals, really getting bored and tired of waiting.

 
Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.

 
Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.
I think we should keep track of the point totals via the spreadsheet. If we start to have overwhelming numbers then I say we do a controlled opening of a certain type of crystal. But it would be a shame to open a bunch and then miss out on a good placement when they do the 7d crystal.

 
Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.
I think we should keep track of the point totals via the spreadsheet. If we start to have overwhelming numbers then I say we do a controlled opening of a certain type of crystal. But it would be a shame to open a bunch and then miss out on a good placement when they do the 7d crystal.
That's kind of my thoughts, it's just that like I said I feel like a real jerk being the one to ask everyone to hold. My only concern with opening w controlled amount is too many people won't respect that and just open all of them.

 
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Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.
I think we should keep track of the point totals via the spreadsheet. If we start to have overwhelming numbers then I say we do a controlled opening of a certain type of crystal. But it would be a shame to open a bunch and then miss out on a good placement when they do the 7d crystal.
That's kind of my thoughts, it's just that like I said I feel like a real jerk being the one to ask everyone to hold. My only concern with opening w controlled amount is too many people won't respect that and just open all of them.
Don't feel like this is all on your head. We're making a group decision to hold.

 
Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.
I think we should keep track of the point totals via the spreadsheet. If we start to have overwhelming numbers then I say we do a controlled opening of a certain type of crystal. But it would be a shame to open a bunch and then miss out on a good placement when they do the 7d crystal.
That's kind of my thoughts, it's just that like I said I feel like a real jerk being the one to ask everyone to hold. My only concern with opening w controlled amount is too many people won't respect that and just open all of them.
Don't feel like this is all on your head. We're making a group decision to hold.
I know but I hate having to threaten to kick people when they don't follow. I know some people think it's no big deal to open a few, but it's frustrating for those of us who've been holding all for so long.
 
Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.
I think we should keep track of the point totals via the spreadsheet. If we start to have overwhelming numbers then I say we do a controlled opening of a certain type of crystal. But it would be a shame to open a bunch and then miss out on a good placement when they do the 7d crystal.
That's kind of my thoughts, it's just that like I said I feel like a real jerk being the one to ask everyone to hold. My only concern with opening w controlled amount is too many people won't respect that and just open all of them.
Don't feel like this is all on your head. We're making a group decision to hold.
I know but I hate having to threaten to kick people when they don't follow. I know some people think it's no big deal to open a few, but it's frustrating for those of us who've been holding all for so long.
This is why I abdicated the throne. ;)

 
FWIW the alliance 34471 maps out upcoming events (some by rotation, others I suppose are speculation) and they don't have the crystal event happening at least until a bit into September. Hopefully they're wrong but they have arena combat as the next 7 day.

This is their website http://34471.freeoda.com

 
Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.
I think we should keep track of the point totals via the spreadsheet. If we start to have overwhelming numbers then I say we do a controlled opening of a certain type of crystal. But it would be a shame to open a bunch and then miss out on a good placement when they do the 7d crystal.
That's kind of my thoughts, it's just that like I said I feel like a real jerk being the one to ask everyone to hold. My only concern with opening w controlled amount is too many people won't respect that and just open all of them.
Don't feel like this is all on your head. We're making a group decision to hold.
I know but I hate having to threaten to kick people when they don't follow. I know some people think it's no big deal to open a few, but it's frustrating for those of us who've been holding all for so long.
This is why I abdicated the throne. ;)
Watch yourself, I could always sneakily give it back to you.

 
Should we set a certain date and say if the event doesn't come by then we can open? I feel awful asking everyone to hold so long, and I'm jonesing to open mine too.
I think we should keep track of the point totals via the spreadsheet. If we start to have overwhelming numbers then I say we do a controlled opening of a certain type of crystal. But it would be a shame to open a bunch and then miss out on a good placement when they do the 7d crystal.
That's kind of my thoughts, it's just that like I said I feel like a real jerk being the one to ask everyone to hold. My only concern with opening w controlled amount is too many people won't respect that and just open all of them.
Don't feel like this is all on your head. We're making a group decision to hold.
I know but I hate having to threaten to kick people when they don't follow. I know some people think it's no big deal to open a few, but it's frustrating for those of us who've been holding all for so long.
This is why I abdicated the throne. ;)
Watch yourself, I could always sneakily give it back to you.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 
It is nice to not have that temptation to buy the occassional Peter Parker wallet and spin some PHCs. Haven't done that in months.

 
Anyone using the regeneration masteries? Wondering if they'd help with alliance questing.
If someone is using Deadpool or Wolverine I think they might help, the +15% one on Deadpool especially

But for anyone else... 4 health twice per second, so 8 per second. That's 480 health if your fight lasts a minute. (I don't think most of my fights last nearly a minute.) That's what, 4 light punches, assuming none are crits or fury'd? Against top heroes anyway. I suppose for 2 stars it is a lot more of a help, but do we have problems of losing in 2-star tourneys?

I just don't see it worth it.

 
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So if you had an awakened 4* Deadpool or Wolverine on your AQ team then they might be worth it?

I just remembered that AQ battles are on a timer. Probably to prevent exactly what I was thinking, sit back and regenerate to full health before ending each battle. But you could still do it for a minute or so per battle. Doc would know.. :hey:

Wondering if I should start hoping to pull back to back 4* Wolverines ala Sammy with the Widows.

 
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So if you had an awakened 4* Deadpool or Wolverine on your AQ team then they might be worth it?

I just remembered that AQ battles are on a timer. Probably to prevent exactly what I was thinking, sit back and regenerate to full health before ending each battle. But you could still do it for a minute or so per battle. Doc would know.. :hey:

Wondering if I should start hoping to pull back to back 4* Wolverines ala Sammy with the Widows.
That's my plan. When the crystal event starts I plan on pulling back to back dr strange and then back to back scarlet witch. My strategy is to cross my fingers before opening. We'll see how it works

 
I have some of the regen masteries. They help a little but it's such a small amount of heal that you would never run any strategy based off of it. I would probably not get them again if I ever reset those masteries.

On the other hand I'm very much hoping for a 4* Wolverine from my crystals. My maxed 3* Deadpool is an absolute beast in the AQ. Would love to have a 4* healer.

 
guitarmonkiy said:
FWIW the alliance 34471 maps out upcoming events (some by rotation, others I suppose are speculation) and they don't have the crystal event happening at least until a bit into September. Hopefully they're wrong but they have arena combat as the next 7 day.

This is their website http://34471.freeoda.com
That is two weeks away. I say we still hold, what is two more weeks when we have already been holding for a year. For people who need gold there will be a few daily crystal events, and they have a 3 day one in there somewhere as well. Plus that gives me two more weeks to get my last 3 runs at Thanos in and hopefully get another 4* crystal and finally have some of those fancy stronger heroes you guys all have.

 
Now that they switched up Wolverine's regen to be random that makes him a lot better. Before you used to need to get hit, and I wasn't getting hit enough to trigger it.

 
OK, I need a little bit of help/ advice going forward. Here's the list of my 3-stars right now and what their rank I guess is:

Winter Soldier 1410 Awakened

Ant-Man 1045

Iron Man 1022

Deadpool 954

Scarlet Witch- 715

Ultron 490

Rhino 489 Awakened- I hate him lol

Ronan 486

Black Panther- 320

Punisher- 318

Captain America 315

Star-Lord- 313

Magneto- 313

War Machine- 312

Unstoppable Colossus- 229-- Why is he ALWAYS so low?

On Offense I have:

Strength 1/9

Greater Strength 1/9

Courage 3/3

Pierce 1/3

Lesser Cruelty 1/3

Defense:

Vitality 2/9

Greater Vitality 1/9

Block proficiency 4/4

Perfect Block 1/4

Utility:

Limber 1/5

Parry 3/3

Dexterity 3/3

I also have 7 Mastery points to spend and I have 1268 Units as well and I'm level 34.

OK, my plan is to save enough units to get a 4-star crystal so I'm guaranteed to get one. With that said, where can I put these mastery points where I wont have to spend an arm and a leg unit wise?

Also, which one of the lower ranked 3-star guys are any good? Who has special abilities I can really use later on?

 
guitarmonkiy said:
FWIW the alliance 34471 maps out upcoming events (some by rotation, others I suppose are speculation) and they don't have the crystal event happening at least until a bit into September. Hopefully they're wrong but they have arena combat as the next 7 day.

This is their website http://34471.freeoda.com
That is two weeks away. I say we still hold, what is two more weeks when we have already been holding for a year. For people who need gold there will be a few daily crystal events, and they have a 3 day one in there somewhere as well. Plus that gives me two more weeks to get my last 3 runs at Thanos in and hopefully get another 4* crystal and finally have some of those fancy stronger heroes you guys all have.
If they're correct, it's two weeks away. It could be sooner, could be further. Who knows anymore.

 
OK, I need a little bit of help/ advice going forward. Here's the list of my 3-stars right now and what their rank I guess is:

Winter Soldier 1410 Awakened

Ant-Man 1045

Iron Man 1022

Deadpool 954

Scarlet Witch- 715

Ultron 490

Rhino 489 Awakened- I hate him lol

Ronan 486

Black Panther- 320

Punisher- 318

Captain America 315

Star-Lord- 313

Magneto- 313

War Machine- 312

Unstoppable Colossus- 229-- Why is he ALWAYS so low?

On Offense I have:

Strength 1/9

Greater Strength 1/9

Courage 3/3

Pierce 1/3

Lesser Cruelty 1/3

Defense:

Vitality 2/9

Greater Vitality 1/9

Block proficiency 4/4

Perfect Block 1/4

Utility:

Limber 1/5

Parry 3/3

Dexterity 3/3

I also have 7 Mastery points to spend and I have 1268 Units as well and I'm level 34.

OK, my plan is to save enough units to get a 4-star crystal so I'm guaranteed to get one. With that said, where can I put these mastery points where I wont have to spend an arm and a leg unit wise?

Also, which one of the lower ranked 3-star guys are any good? Who has special abilities I can really use later on?
Unstoppable colossus is a beast. His PI starts low but ends somewhat high. Most of your 3* are pretty good, I'd go with who you prefer until you start getting them awakened. That's where you'll see the biggest differences.
 
Winter Soldier 1410 Awakened

Ant-Man 1045

Iron Man 1022

Deadpool 954

Scarlet Witch- 715

Ultron 490

Rhino 489 Awakened- I hate him lol

Ronan 486

Black Panther- 320

Punisher- 318

Captain America 315

Star-Lord- 313

Magneto- 313

War Machine- 312

Unstoppable Colossus- 229-- Why is he ALWAYS so low?
These are my favorites from this list. (Haven't used Ultron, War Machine, or AntMan and Deadpool isn't great until duped, and even then not so great anymore)

 
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guitarmonkiy said:
FWIW the alliance 34471 maps out upcoming events (some by rotation, others I suppose are speculation) and they don't have the crystal event happening at least until a bit into September. Hopefully they're wrong but they have arena combat as the next 7 day.

This is their website http://34471.freeoda.com
That is two weeks away. I say we still hold, what is two more weeks when we have already been holding for a year. For people who need gold there will be a few daily crystal events, and they have a 3 day one in there somewhere as well. Plus that gives me two more weeks to get my last 3 runs at Thanos in and hopefully get another 4* crystal and finally have some of those fancy stronger heroes you guys all have.
If they're correct, it's two weeks away. It could be sooner, could be further. Who knows anymore.
I'm ok with waiting for two weeks. If the 7 day crystal crash appears then awesome! But if it doesn't appear and Kabam has not given any kind of idea when it might then I'm done with stockpiling.

Playing the game efficiently is great but not when it comes at such a huge sacrifice. Opening crystals is one of the primary joys in the game and we aren't getting that anymore.

 
Scarlet Witch is one of the very best heroes when awakened. She can negate effects on others, including Regeneration and Unstoppable which are two of the worst powers to have to fight against. I would definitely keep advancing her and hope you can get her duped.

 
The Mastery points are where I need a big help. I have 7---is there any good ones that don't require a crap-load of units?
Not really. From where you're sitting you'd want the rest of the crit masteries, and stand your ground (the last defense mastery on the bottom row)

 
Now that they switched up Wolverine's regen to be random that makes him a lot better. Before you used to need to get hit, and I wasn't getting hit enough to trigger it.
Yup. I have him duped 4*. Need to start bringing him on alliance quests. Not sure who to drop, probably non-duped Superior IM.

 
guitarmonkiy said:
FWIW the alliance 34471 maps out upcoming events (some by rotation, others I suppose are speculation) and they don't have the crystal event happening at least until a bit into September. Hopefully they're wrong but they have arena combat as the next 7 day.

This is their website http://34471.freeoda.com
That is two weeks away. I say we still hold, what is two more weeks when we have already been holding for a year. For people who need gold there will be a few daily crystal events, and they have a 3 day one in there somewhere as well. Plus that gives me two more weeks to get my last 3 runs at Thanos in and hopefully get another 4* crystal and finally have some of those fancy stronger heroes you guys all have.
If they're correct, it's two weeks away. It could be sooner, could be further. Who knows anymore.
I'm ok with waiting for two weeks. If the 7 day crystal crash appears then awesome! But if it doesn't appear and Kabam has not given any kind of idea when it might then I'm done with stockpiling.

Playing the game efficiently is great but not when it comes at such a huge sacrifice. Opening crystals is one of the primary joys in the game and we aren't getting that anymore.
I'm kinda leaning the same way. I'm falling into a lull here and opening the crystals can certainly help pull me out of that.

 
I wish we could see how many alliance quest energy each of our group mates has. Would help me pick a path right now.

 
TenTimes said:
Polish Hammer said:
5 points, no?
I think the very first guy starts with 3, then the rest with 5. Maybe? I was 5th to join just now and had 5/5, but have started with 3/5 too before.
Your timer starts as soon as the quest is started. So everyone starts with 3/5 but if you don't enter the quest until 2 hours after it starts then you'll see yourself at 5/5

 

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