Marvel Contest of Champions - Time Killer (3 Viewers)

[5-ish Finkle]

Here is a google spreadsheet that we can keep track of crystals

I have added columns for the shard crystals.

Going forward I would throw this out there for a "schedule" we hold all rank ups and level ups for a week. We then pick one of these events to go after. It seems like we all try to go after the rank ups which means we level guys up to their next rank, or we try to get in a bunch of level ups which means we rank our guys so we can keep ranking them. I think we have to pick one of these events to do, not try to do both. Taking the current 3 day rank up, we aren't going to reach the first 1500 shard reward because there were lots of rank ups going on during the level up event. Only picking one every other week also means we have a little more time to acquire all the cats we need.

For crystals lets get back to holding them, only this time for shorter durations. We should be able to reach the dupe day rewards if we all only open PHC Shards and 2* crystals. If we all keep track in the spreadsheet, I would suggest we use the 750000 level for opening. That gives us the 25 units and (5) 1300 ISO level rewards. THe 1m level is a tier 1 team health (not worth it), 1.5m is loyalty and battle chips (wow!!!), 2m is 2 gold crystals (I know we all want to save up for 3000 in gold), 2.5m is a crystal but do we all want to save up to get a 2* dupe?

For AQ, I know we have kind of been going on auto pilot, all joining what we think is "our" group with no real idea if we are still spreading the wealth. Plus with some new guys, some retires, some no shows I think we need to try and spread it out evenly again. I also noticed that yesterday at one point group 1 had 7, group 2 had 6 and group 3 was not started. When I commented in chat to fill group 1, that wasn't what I meant, but maybe the newer guys took it that way.

Fine with all of these, but I'm going to be 100% honest here....I don't have the time to check in anywhere near as much as I once did. I'm doing stuff in the mornings and evenings most days as best I can and I'm jumping on at lunch at work when I can, but sometimes that can't happen(Of course, I'm still outscoring a lot of folks in the AQ events/etc, so I don't think I'm holding anyone back, as far as that goes.) What I can't always do jump here and check the thread and if I catch the alliance chat at the wrong part of the cycle sometimes plans of action that have been discussed are long gone and I don't see it.

Regardless, what I really need, and others may feel the same way, is this: Just give me a freaking checklist of things we're doing and when we need to do them by. That way it's easier for me to prioritize what play time I DO have for this. If I can't keep up with it, I'll bow out and let you find a replacement that's more active.

As an alliance, we have ONE champ that's higher than 3/30. I'm gonna start doing the t4 cat arenas to get 3 of my guys up to that, and I think a few others are as well which will definitely help with those.

Along these lines, I've been contemplating trying to go get some T4 cats by grinding those arenas that next time they are up too. I have two of my three 4*s at 3/30 and have the ISO to get the third one there pretty quickly once I farm a few T3 cats. I expect the amount of time I can put in to the T4 arenas isn't going to be good enough, but I'm at least contemplating trying.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Here is a google spreadsheet that we can keep track of crystals

I have added columns for the shard crystals.

Going forward I would throw this out there for a "schedule" we hold all rank ups and level ups for a week. We then pick one of these events to go after. It seems like we all try to go after the rank ups which means we level guys up to their next rank, or we try to get in a bunch of level ups which means we rank our guys so we can keep ranking them. I think we have to pick one of these events to do, not try to do both. Taking the current 3 day rank up, we aren't going to reach the first 1500 shard reward because there were lots of rank ups going on during the level up event. Only picking one every other week also means we have a little more time to acquire all the cats we need.

For crystals lets get back to holding them, only this time for shorter durations. We should be able to reach the dupe day rewards if we all only open PHC Shards and 2* crystals. If we all keep track in the spreadsheet, I would suggest we use the 750000 level for opening. That gives us the 25 units and (5) 1300 ISO level rewards. THe 1m level is a tier 1 team health (not worth it), 1.5m is loyalty and battle chips (wow!!!), 2m is 2 gold crystals (I know we all want to save up for 3000 in gold), 2.5m is a crystal but do we all want to save up to get a 2* dupe?

For AQ, I know we have kind of been going on auto pilot, all joining what we think is "our" group with no real idea if we are still spreading the wealth. Plus with some new guys, some retires, some no shows I think we need to try and spread it out evenly again. I also noticed that yesterday at one point group 1 had 7, group 2 had 6 and group 3 was not started. When I commented in chat to fill group 1, that wasn't what I meant, but maybe the newer guys took it that way.

Fine with all of these, but I'm going to be 100% honest here....I don't have the time to check in anywhere near as much as I once did. I'm doing stuff in the mornings and evenings most days as best I can and I'm jumping on at lunch at work when I can, but sometimes that can't happen(Of course, I'm still outscoring a lot of folks in the AQ events/etc, so I don't think I'm holding anyone back, as far as that goes.) What I can't always do jump here and check the thread and if I catch the alliance chat at the wrong part of the cycle sometimes plans of action that have been discussed are long gone and I don't see it.

Regardless, what I really need, and others may feel the same way, is this: Just give me a freaking checklist of things we're doing and when we need to do them by. That way it's easier for me to prioritize what play time I DO have for this. If I can't keep up with it, I'll bow out and let you find a replacement that's more active.

As an alliance, we have ONE champ that's higher than 3/30. I'm gonna start doing the t4 cat arenas to get 3 of my guys up to that, and I think a few others are as well which will definitely help with those.

Along these lines, I've been contemplating trying to go get some T4 cats by grinding those arenas that next time they are up too. I have two of my three 4*s at 3/30 and have the ISO to get the third one there pretty quickly once I farm a few T3 cats. I expect the amount of time I can put in to the T4 arenas isn't going to be good enough, but I'm at least contemplating trying.

If you're good at getting to endless streak and willing to spend a few units, it's not too bad. I used to think it seemed like a crazy grind but it's not too bad. Don't get me wrong, it does take some time, but it's not like you have two devote the full 48 hours to it

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I can't QUITE get to the endless streak in the 4* arena yet, but that's because I don't have a full team of 3/30s yet. I usually top out at around 11-12 wins. Have made it to 14 once. Once I ramp up Iron Man to 3/30 I think I'll be able to pull it off. I'm very close to having the shards for another 4* champ and have the credits for the 4* crystal the next time I get the offer, so soon I should have a little more firepower to boot.

Once you hit the endless streak there, what are they typically throwing at you? Pretty much all teams that I'd need to refresh the top team to take out? Or would some of my 3* 4/40s come back into the equation there?

 

[woot]

In endless streak just make sure your team is 4000pi+. That can be with 3 3*'s or any combination with a 4*.

I have 12 teams to use in endless streak. But only have 9 4's.

About the re-newed focus, we should come up with a list on what we are doing and when. So ppl know the priorities and when we will be ranking and opening stuff.

Sure we wont hit the top rewards, but at least more then we do now and brings back those 'all open at once' moments we had with the previous event schema. Ppl will also know why they are saving.

 

[woot]

Im also working and improving my 4* teams with T4 cats. For me they are easy to grab.

Will take a long time (underestimated) before i have 3 4's at 4/40, but it will happen. That should help in the AQ.

Mj, last time you came up with the teams for AQ, might be good to do that again for next AQ? So ppl know which group to join.

As i said to Mj i'll be sticking around a bit longer to see how things turn out. I think new focus will bring back the alliance fun.

 

[GregR]

Am probably going to drop out soonish. I haven't gotten a single fight in for a week or two and I don't imagine it's going to change.

Opened crystals as I saw we were close to an award. Will probably wait for level up and spend the rest of my Iso, then take off after.

 

[UOFI_316]

Mj, last time you came up with the teams for AQ, might be good to do that again for next AQ? So ppl know which group to join.

Everyone needs to update the spareadsheet with their top guys, makes it easier to see who should bring what.

 

[UOFI_316]

Am probably going to drop out soonish. I haven't gotten a single fight in for a week or two and I don't imagine it's going to change.

Opened crystals as I saw we were close to an award. Will probably wait for level up and spend the rest of my Iso, then take off after.

You think you have somthing more important to do? I don't think so, pixels in the shape of super heroes is far more important that actual work/family/job/kids... get your priorities straight.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Mj, last time you came up with the teams for AQ, might be good to do that again for next AQ? So ppl know which group to join.

Everyone needs to update the spareadsheet with their top guys, makes it easier to see who should bring what.

In the shards column, are we putting in how many actual shards or how many crystals the shards have accumulated?

Oh, and where the hell are we putting the AQ crystals on this thing?

 

[Road Warriors]

Mj, last time you came up with the teams for AQ, might be good to do that again for next AQ? So ppl know which group to join.

Everyone needs to update the spareadsheet with their top guys, makes it easier to see who should bring what.

In the shards column, are we putting in how many actual shards or how many crystals the shards have accumulated?

Oh, and where the hell are we putting the AQ crystals on this thing?

The number of full crystals from shards, not the shard count.

AQ crystals are part of the Daily/Alliance/Golden column. However, the value for those has dropped to 150 / crystal in the 7 day.

Lesser Ascendant crystals are 200.

 

[Foosball God]

Did we find out which turd was opening crystals early yet?

 

[Peak]

Did we find out which turd was opening crystals early yet?

5 posts up

 

[Foosball God]

Greg was the turd?!?! Inconceivable!!

 

[UOFI_316]

No, Greg opened so MJ sent him a turd.

 

[(HULK)]

I haven't fought in an arena in like 10 days. Haven't run a normal quest in 5.

I like the alliance quests, but I don't think I'll ever get past the 3/30 stage with my guys. Don't have the time, even though I can hit endless.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So what's the plan? Im all for the checklist idea. I need to know what has to be done and at times its a bit hard to follow. Or just assign me something and I'll see if it works.

Whats needed to hit the endless that everyone is talking about?

 

[guitarmonkiy]

No, Greg opened so MJ sent him a turd.

Way to ruin the surprise.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

So what's the plan? Im all for the checklist idea. I need to know what has to be done and at times its a bit hard to follow. Or just assign me something and I'll see if it works.

Whats needed to hit the endless that everyone is talking about?

What's the easiest way to post a picture here? I have a screenshot with a great breakdown of the best way to hit endless

 

[guitarmonkiy]

http://imgur.com/4qbwiUg

I think I did it right. Let me know if you have any questions about that.

 

[Buckna]

http://imgur.com/4qbwiUg

I think I did it right. Let me know if you have any questions about that.

Thanks, that 7-8 matchup had frustrated me recently. I learned the hard way that if you go above 4,000 PI you draw fully maxed 5/50 duped that are running the "god mode" combo of Liquid Courage / Double Edge / Willpower.

 

[Polish Hammer]

The part that has me screwed here is that you need to be able to do two matches with PI of 6000. I just got my first 4* a few weeks ago and my maxed 3* guys can't touch that total as a team.

 

[Road Warriors]

http://imgur.com/4qbwiUg

I think I did it right. Let me know if you have any questions about that.

Thanks, that 7-8 matchup had frustrated me recently. I learned the hard way that if you go above 4,000 PI you draw fully maxed 5/50 duped that are running the "god mode" combo of Liquid Courage / Double Edge / Willpower.

I'm gonna give this a shot. I keep ending around 12 ish. I need to fight better, also.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

http://imgur.com/4qbwiUg

I think I did it right. Let me know if you have any questions about that.

Thanks, that 7-8 matchup had frustrated me recently. I learned the hard way that if you go above 4,000 PI you draw fully maxed 5/50 duped that are running the "god mode" combo of Liquid Courage / Double Edge / Willpower.

No problem. Hopefully they don't go changing it all around again.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

The part that has me screwed here is that you need to be able to do two matches with PI of 6000. I just got my first 4* a few weeks ago and my maxed 3* guys can't touch that total as a team.

Boosts!

 

[woot]

I always start with my worst 3* teams and continue towards my best 4* teams. Then i'll be at streak 13 at the end of the first run. When my champs are recovered i run with my 4*'s up to streak 17. From there i'm in easy mode and make sure my teams are above 4000pi.

The 4000pi teams do not have to be mixed with 4 and 3 stars, i sometimes mix them but most of the times they are 3 stars, ranging between 1200pi and 1800pi each.

I will try the trick Mj in the next arena, sounds pretty easy. Looks like more fights are needed, but easier fights.

 

[UOFI_316]

The part that has me screwed here is that you need to be able to do two matches with PI of 6000. I just got my first 4* a few weeks ago and my maxed 3* guys can't touch that total as a team.

Boosts!

I know that for endless the minimum team PI you need does not take boosts into account. For reaching endless is your opponents team PI based on your pre or post boosted PI? Maybe a simplier question, if I boost before I pick my fighters, will my opponent be harder also?

 

[guitarmonkiy]

The part that has me screwed here is that you need to be able to do two matches with PI of 6000. I just got my first 4* a few weeks ago and my maxed 3* guys can't touch that total as a team.

Boosts!

I know that for endless the minimum team PI you need does not take boosts into account. For reaching endless is your opponents team PI based on your pre or post boosted PI? Maybe a simplier question, if I boost before I pick my fighters, will my opponent be harder also?

You may be right for the first part. That does help to get the Kang/thanos team matchups which don't have masteries and are much more manageable. The opponent PI is based off of your post boost PI, so make sure you'll have time for all 3 matches when the boosts are expiring.ETA: a fun trick here is to set your matchup preboost, then use the boosts to make them even easier. Obviously this only works for one round.

 

[woot]

Health boosts gives you easier opponents, so make sure to activate them before selecting the matchup. But don't select a team that would be below 4000pi without boosts.

You can use the health boost and health/power combo boosts at the same time. This will give your champs an even higher PI

By the way i'm using dexterity and parry masteries now. That really is a great combo. I'm still doubting to go for willpower, i have 3 masteries left. It's very expensive and i have a feeling it should be combined with other masteries to get the max health recovery from it?

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Thanks MJ, will have to try it.

I usually lose it at 14-15, but I might not be using my best team of 3 at that point, so I'll try that and boosts if necessary.

I also only have one team of PI 6000+, but will be opening a 4th 4* on dupe day, so should have a 2nd team soon enough.

Also I'm working on masteries, need more credits right now though. I'm semi-following what beerguzzler/DocJC uses and posted a few pages back to max PI without spending a ton, I'll bump the post. It's pretty close to what I was going for with my masteries anyways. So far my heroes PIs are 75+ higher than it was before, with 5 less mastery points used than I had before.

So that could possibly get me to more teams of 6000+ if I can get to a point where I can use 1 3/30 4* and 2 maxed 3* for 6000+, which is very possible.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Health boosts gives you easier opponents, so make sure to activate them before selecting the matchup. But don't select a team that would be below 4000pi without boosts.

You can use the health boost and health/power combo boosts at the same time. This will give your champs an even higher PI

By the way i'm using dexterity and parry masteries now. That really is a great combo. I'm still doubting to go for willpower, i have 3 masteries left. It's very expensive and i have a feeling it should be combined with other masteries to get the max health recovery from it?

I am using those too, I opened up parry to get at the stun masteries. I haven't quite the timing down on parry yet I think. How do you like to use it with dex? I've been opening every fight with timing a block and I usually catch them with a stun. From there I'm usually just dashing back but sometimes get lucky to catch them on a parry.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

http://imgur.com/TdmdIec

http://imgur.com/kJY4g6I

http://imgur.com/DXuvpDy

These are the Masteries I use. Highest PI, without dropping a couple odins for the brand new ones.

 

[UOFI_316]

ETA: a fun trick here is to set your matchup preboost, then use the boosts to make them even easier. Obviously this only works for one round.

I do this since I will use boosts in the AQ. I will pick my arena matchups, go and use a boost within the AQ, then with the time left go back and do my arenas. I have gotten up to 15-16 before just using my two top guys and a throw away. Obviously I am not reaching the minimum PI to reach endless though. I only have one team that can crack the 6000 PI.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

So on match 10 I'm using 2 maxed 3* (Ultron, Strange) and an unleveled base 3*(Black Bolt) and I'm getting 3 hard matchups. So somethings not working there.

 

[Polish Hammer]

Streak at 14 now. My "best guys" are already gone/used. Thinking that my PI is too low for the infinite easy at this point anyway. So I guess just keep doing 2 strong/1 weak until the differential doesn't give me that advantage anymore?

 

[GregR]

Hey, why is there a turd in my inbox?

Yeah, I was actually going to just drop out last night to make room for someone who would contribute, but saw we were like 5k crystal points from a reward so figured I'd put up the points before leaving where they would help. And then ended up with a bunch of Iso I can use for level ups at least until my gold runs out.

 

[UOFI_316]

Hey, why is there a turd in my inbox?

Yeah, I was actually going to just drop out last night to make room for someone who would contribute, but saw we were like 5k crystal points from a reward so figured I'd put up the points before leaving where they would help. And then ended up with a bunch of Iso I can use for level ups at least until my gold runs out.

For now just stay in the alliance. Since we are still only at 29, you aren't taking the spot from someone. This way we can hopefully recruit the 30th with your 63k PI propping up the alliance total.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

So on match 10 I'm using 2 maxed 3* (Ultron, Strange) and an unleveled base 3*(Black Bolt) and I'm getting 3 hard matchups. So somethings not working there.

You'll still get hard matchups. The difference is you'll get say a 7000 PI group vs your 4000 PI instead of facing a 12k PI group. Those hard matchups are much more manageable, especially since you can use the throwaway match against whoever you least like to fight.

 

[GregR]

Hey, why is there a turd in my inbox?

Yeah, I was actually going to just drop out last night to make room for someone who would contribute, but saw we were like 5k crystal points from a reward so figured I'd put up the points before leaving where they would help. And then ended up with a bunch of Iso I can use for level ups at least until my gold runs out.

For now just stay in the alliance. Since we are still only at 29, you aren't taking the spot from someone. This way we can hopefully recruit the 30th with your 63k PI propping up the alliance total.

Will do. MJ, just go ahead and kick me when you find a replacement.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Hey, why is there a turd in my inbox?

Yeah, I was actually going to just drop out last night to make room for someone who would contribute, but saw we were like 5k crystal points from a reward so figured I'd put up the points before leaving where they would help. And then ended up with a bunch of Iso I can use for level ups at least until my gold runs out.

For now just stay in the alliance. Since we are still only at 29, you aren't taking the spot from someone. This way we can hopefully recruit the 30th with your 63k PI propping up the alliance total.

Will do. MJ, just go ahead and kick me when you find a replacement.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to bring myself to do that :'(

And use the word "replacement" loosely.

 

[Dickies]

Damn, so close to the 500 4* shards.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

So on match 10 I'm using 2 maxed 3* (Ultron, Strange) and an unleveled base 3*(Black Bolt) and I'm getting 3 hard matchups. So somethings not working there.

You'll still get hard matchups. The difference is you'll get say a 7000 PI group vs your 4000 PI instead of facing a 12k PI group. Those hard matchups are much more manageable, especially since you can use the throwaway match against whoever you least like to fight.

Ok, the guy who wrote it up should be more clear then. 'You'll never see a hard match, period if you use this setup' is misleading.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

So on match 10 I'm using 2 maxed 3* (Ultron, Strange) and an unleveled base 3*(Black Bolt) and I'm getting 3 hard matchups. So somethings not working there.

You'll still get hard matchups. The difference is you'll get say a 7000 PI group vs your 4000 PI instead of facing a 12k PI group. Those hard matchups are much more manageable, especially since you can use the throwaway match against whoever you least like to fight.

Ok, the guy who wrote it up should be more clear then. 'You'll never see a hard match, period if you use this setup' is misleading.

Sorry about that, I just use it as a guideline and don't think I fully read through as much to realize that. He just did a quick write up as a response on Reddit. If I find a better write up I'll repost it here, there are a lot of good things to find in that subreddit.

 

[Witz]

For those who didn't see the alliance message or the scrolling messages - we're moving back towards savings crystals and rank ups for the purposes of better rewards.

Level up event and Duel events are going on now - contribute to both.

With regards to the Level Up event - only do level ups - don't also do rank ups as well.

Let's try to get back to the way things used to be. In the latest 5 day Alliance Quest, we placed 524. Had we placed 500 that would have been 500 4* shards - we can definitely do it with more participation.

 

[TenTimes]

I read on the reddit that staying on the same map, and succeeding, raises our prestige and thus the difficulty. Some folks (me included) have been thinking that Map 2 seems harder than it first did and this seems to confirm it.

My understanding is that the opposing P.I.s are based on both our prestige and the P.I.s of the top 3 of each alliance member, which we've all been giving a lot of attention since the AQs began.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Whats the best way to get Alliance healing and revives?

 

[UOFI_316]

I think they are only in AQ crystals or rewards for AQ. Other than that you would have to spend units on them. Or wait for Kabam to #### up the AQ again and then we will all get one level 1 health potion as an apology.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What crystals CAN we open?

 

[UOFI_316]

Ideally none for now. If you needed something, like gold to pay for leveling, opening some arena crystals is fine. If you needed some health or revives for questing opening some free crystals would be acceptable since those are only like 25 points. The next crystal reward is like 135k away, no way we are reaching that so opening just to get points is not needed for now.

For AQ, I liked MJs idea above about saving all the AQ health and potions for now and then we all use them when we try a harder map, or move up a level in the AQ.

 

[Buckna]

With the AQ over, I went back to the Moon Knight quests and finally got to the last one. Got ambushed by a 4* Moon Knight 90% of the way thru, holy crap!

He beat the snot out of my 5 best 4* 3/30's & 3* 4/40's. Only guy that had a chance was Unstoppable Colossus that I had to revive twice. 3 of my guys didn't get a hit in, he dodged my first attack and immediately got a stun that kept retriggering on subsequent hits.

When they do his Arena, the scores needed are going to be insane. Everyone is going to want him.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

With the AQ over, I went back to the Moon Knight quests and finally got to the last one. Got ambushed by a 4* Moon Knight 90% of the way thru, holy crap!

He beat the snot out of my 5 best 4* 3/30's & 3* 4/40's. Only guy that had a chance was Unstoppable Colossus that I had to revive twice. 3 of my guys didn't get a hit in, he dodged my first attack and immediately got a stun that kept retriggering on subsequent hits.

When they do his Arena, the scores needed are going to be insane. Everyone is going to want him.

Yeah he's pretty awesome. I'm going to farm that long outside run in the last map and hope for the double ambushes. ISO galore!