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Boller by a WIDE margin.
Pretty much, except they just want to get Mauck playing time, not prevent Volek from being exposed to the Jags D. Hes played horribly this year, theres nothing more he can do to hurt his value.Excellent post.Is this really a guess or do you know something?
I am still astounded that Shanahan made the roster decision to keep an obviously unable to go anymore Rice over Mauck, and chose BVP over Mauck as the DEN QB of the future.The guy finally drafts what looks like a capable QB in his 9 years, and he pisses him away to keep from hurting Rice's feelings.
Thanks for the compliment. Yes, it is really a guess, and, no, I don't have any inside information. I'm just processing the information available and extrapolating it with what I see as potential offseason happenings.From the Titans side, McNair has already said he wants to come back and is confident his contract will be renegoiated. I see no reason to be coy about this, so I accept it at face value.Combine this with the fact Volek hasn't done much in his time under center this year, and I think the Titans aren't sold on him as their franchise QB because maybe he isn't a fit for Norm Chow's offense. Hence my comment about preceived value, I think the league still views Volek as the QB from the end of last season, and has not taken much notice of how poor his play has been this season. Again, I think this is a system thing, but I digress.All of that brings me to The New York Jets. I think Herm jumps ship to the Chiefs in the offseason and Heimerdinger's becomes the new HC. Heimerdinger's O obviously flourished under Volek, the team has QB issues out the wazoo and there is an interest in signing TO, who would be a perfect fit with Volek and their scheme. Volek then gets traded, and the Titans draft McNair's sucessor for him to groom.In the meantime, the Titans know they will need a stop gap solution if, or should I say when, McNair gets injured again, so it is time to see if Mauck can be the number two. If Mauck doesn't prove he can be a capable number two, I still think the Titanstrade Volek but bring in a verteran backup.
I wouldnt necessarily count on Chow still being the OC next year.
I think you are talking about Bongo from www.titanscentral.netHe doesnt know anything more than anyone else, just likes to talk like he does.
Strongly disagree. Shanahan didn't keep Rice over Mauck. Shanahan hasn't kept 3 QBs on his starting roster in years now, so even if he never took a flier on Jerry Rice, Matt Mauck still wouldn't have seen the 53 man roster.Now, if you have an issue with Shanny keeping Van Pelt over Mauck, that's another thing. Personally, I'm willing to give Shanny the benefit of the doubt, since he saw these guys both play for 2 years, and I'm assuming he knows a thing or two more than I do about QBs and his offense.
I am still astounded that Shanahan made the roster decision to keep an obviously unable to go anymore Rice over Mauck, and chose BVP over Mauck as the DEN QB of the future.
The guy finally drafts what looks like a capable QB in his 9 years, and he pisses him away to keep from hurting Rice's feelings.
Do you guys dislike each other from other threads or something?Strongly disagree. Shanahan didn't keep Rice over Mauck. Shanahan hasn't kept 3 QBs on his starting roster in years now, so even if he never took a flier on Jerry Rice, Matt Mauck still wouldn't have seen the 53 man roster.Now, if you have an issue with Shanny keeping Van Pelt over Mauck, that's another thing. Personally, I'm willing to give Shanny the benefit of the doubt, since he saw these guys both play for 2 years, and I'm assuming he knows a thing or two more than I do about QBs and his offense.
I am still astounded that Shanahan made the roster decision to keep an obviously unable to go anymore Rice over Mauck, and chose BVP over Mauck as the DEN QB of the future.
The guy finally drafts what looks like a capable QB in his 9 years, and he pisses him away to keep from hurting Rice's feelings.
I mean, what makes you think Mauck is such a capable of QB? Because he's the #3 guy in Tennessee? Because he's getting playing time this week? BVP is getting playing time this week, too. If Mauck was so great, why was he drafted in the 7th round? Or are you basing your assessment of him on what he's done in the preseason? Need I remind you how great Griese always used to look in the preseason, and how horrible Plummer has always looked in the preseason?
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two words: Jarious JacksonI don't think that BVP will be any better than JJ was in this offense. I believe that Denver needs to draft their QB of the future, although I'm sure that Shanny will hold on to BVP until it's painfully obvious that he's a career backup.Strongly disagree. Shanahan didn't keep Rice over Mauck. Shanahan hasn't kept 3 QBs on his starting roster in years now, so even if he never took a flier on Jerry Rice, Matt Mauck still wouldn't have seen the 53 man roster.Now, if you have an issue with Shanny keeping Van Pelt over Mauck, that's another thing. Personally, I'm willing to give Shanny the benefit of the doubt, since he saw these guys both play for 2 years, and I'm assuming he knows a thing or two more than I do about QBs and his offense.
I am still astounded that Shanahan made the roster decision to keep an obviously unable to go anymore Rice over Mauck, and chose BVP over Mauck as the DEN QB of the future.
The guy finally drafts what looks like a capable QB in his 9 years, and he pisses him away to keep from hurting Rice's feelings.
I mean, what makes you think Mauck is such a capable of QB? Because he's the #3 guy in Tennessee? Because he's getting playing time this week? BVP is getting playing time this week, too. If Mauck was so great, why was he drafted in the 7th round? Or are you basing your assessment of him on what he's done in the preseason? Need I remind you how great Griese always used to look in the preseason, and how horrible Plummer has always looked in the preseason?
I would be interested to hear what your thoughts are on the direction the Titans will go at Qb next year. And diesel's as well.It does seem to me that if the Titans have any intention of keeping Volek and having him become thier future starter that they would play him not Mauck if McNair cannot play.
he won a playoff game for Arizona, not exactly an easy thing to do.And Plummer has done exactly WHAT beyond some good regular season games (similar to what Griese has accomplished in his career)?
Biabreakable, Heres my thoughts.
I like the kid. I think hes been jerked around alot both in HS and since coming to the pros, and has a ton of natural talent. I see alot of Jake Plummer in him (who Im also a huge fan of), and think that paying him decently to be McNair's backup for a year and then be groomed to take over the starting position in 2007, would be something that would be mutually beneficial. I know Chow likes strong armed guys with good movement like he did Cassell in college, and think he could get alot from McCown.
I could see McCown as the #2 as well with Volek gone
Please elaborate on exactly what this is that you've seen. From what I've seen I have just the opposite impression.1. Volek and McNair will definitely, absolutely, positively NOT be Titans next year.
First, there's the fact that Plummer WON a playoff game in Arizona- something no one had done since 1964. Second, there's the fact that Plummer even MADE the playoffs in Arizona- something that hadn't happened since 1982. Third, there's the fact that Plummer's actually thrown a pass in a playoff game- something that Griese has yet to do. Fourth, there's the fact that Plummer leads the league in 4th quarter comebacks since he entered it.Here's the big one, though. Griese was a starter for 4 years. Denver made the playoffs once during that span. Plummer has been a starter for 3 years. Denver has made the playoffs three times during that span. How many other teams have made the playoffs for 3 straight years? New England, Indy. That's it.And Plummer has done exactly WHAT beyond some good regular season games (similar to what Griese has accomplished in his career)?
Maybe someone already got to this - I didn't read further - but NFL live (or Pro football today on Fox) said this morning that it'd be Volek if McNair can't go.
Wyatt isn't always right, but he's usually pretty good about Titan stuff IMO.
It's a general impression I was left with.... there was a kid named Quinn that was competition with Mauck. I liked Quinn, but he's bounced around on a few taxi squads, including Houston. I saw two preseason games where Quinn was MUCH better than Mauck, but he got cut anyway. Now, if you think I can remember exact plays from preseason games two years ago, I'm afraid I can't deliver.
I do believe Griese has the SAME amount of playoff victories in Denver as Plummer?First, there's the fact that Plummer WON a playoff game in Arizona- something no one had done since 1964. Second, there's the fact that Plummer even MADE the playoffs in Arizona- something that hadn't happened since 1982. Third, there's the fact that Plummer's actually thrown a pass in a playoff game- something that Griese has yet to do. Fourth, there's the fact that Plummer leads the league in 4th quarter comebacks since he entered it.Here's the big one, though. Griese was a starter for 4 years. Denver made the playoffs once during that span. Plummer has been a starter for 3 years. Denver has made the playoffs three times during that span. How many other teams have made the playoffs for 3 straight years? New England, Indy. That's it.And Plummer has done exactly WHAT beyond some good regular season games (similar to what Griese has accomplished in his career)?
That's great. So give Griese and Plummer a push when it comes to playoff victories. Then give Plummer an advantage in winning percentage, TD:INT ratio, QB rating, passing yards, passing TDs, and playoff appearances, since we're only considering his Denver tenure here. Advantage Plummer.What's that? You want to consider Plummer's Arizona career now, too? Well then, Plummer has more playoff wins. Advantage Plummer.I do believe Griese has the SAME amount of playoff victories in Denver as Plummer?
Nicely done, Tick, nicely done!
Thats the interesting thing, he's obviously coached the current ones, and some of the available big names too so you've got to think they can make a really informed decision for the position.
