McCluster's Position Designation (1 Viewer)

[Jaysports]

I've seen plenty of talk about hot waiver pickups which include McCluster, but nothing regarding his position designation. If they start playing him mostly at RB will MFL or any other site for that matter update him from WR to RB? I would think he's more valuable as a RB. Just curious as I think that makes a big difference in his value to potential Charles owners or RB needy teams.

 

[mr roboto]

I need a RB badly. Had Charles. Need to pick someone up, but McCluster doesnt help me as a WR

 

[Fat Nick]

I can't see them removing the WR designation, or the RB one for that matter. As a rule of thumb, I don't think Yahoo! leagues remove positions. It was that way for Baseball at least. Basically, for Baseball, the rule was something like, if you play 20 games at a specific position in the prior year, you get that designation. If you play 20 in the current year and it's not listed, it gets added. I'd imagine they have a similar rule for football. They won't take it away. I'd guess that they shouldn't take it away in other leagues either. Wouldn't really be fair.

 

[B-Deep]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

 

[davearm]

Having him slotted as a WR if/when he's getting double-digit carries wouldn't really be fair either.

 

[Reepicheep]

Having him slotted as a WR if/when he's getting double-digit carries wouldn't really be fair either.

Bringing back memories of the Great Joe Webb Debacle of '10. I picked him up then as a defensive move, I was solidly in the "It's bad sportsmanship to play a starting QB in the WR slot" camp. This is a little different, but still. If it's week 14 to make the playoffs and my opponent had McCluster in the WR slot getting 20 carries, I'd be pretty grumpy about it. I guess that's the test.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Having him slotted as a WR if/when he's getting double-digit carries wouldn't really be fair either.

YAHOO!

 

[schlesinj]

Colsten his rookie season in Yahoo was a TE. Yahoo never changed it and he won many championships that year.

 

[solorca]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

Yes he is. Wish I could take advantage of the WR designation, but RB is definitely the correct choice.

 

[JHuber77]

Keep an eye on Tim Tebow as well. He lined up as a WR this past Sunday. If they end up designating him as a WR and Denver ends up using him as a QB, this could win you your championship.

 

[Trizzler]

I'm surprised Yahoo didn't come right out and make Tebow a QB/RB/WR/TE option. It'd be the logical decision considering their past debacles with Joe Webb, Colsten, and McCluster.

 

[Joe Summer]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

Yes he is. Wish I could take advantage of the WR designation, but RB is definitely the correct choice.

He's listed as a WR on the Chiefs website as well as NFL.comI think there used to be a rule that WRs could not have uniform numbers in the 20s, but I don't think it matters now as long as the numbers are between 1-49 and 80-89.

 

[Kleck]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

He is in my MFL dynasty leagues. CBS has him as a WR.

 

[FFdork]

He's a RB on MFL, a RB/WR on Yahoo, and a RB on every other league hosting site I'm on.

 

[VaTerp]

Keep an eye on Tim Tebow as well. He lined up as a WR this past Sunday. If they end up designating him as a WR and Denver ends up using him as a QB, this could win you your championship.

Yahoo has McCluster listed as RB/WR because there was talk of the Chiefs using him as a slot WR last season and this summer.During the abbreviated training camp, Haley came out and said that McCluster would be used as a RB so that's what he technically is.But Yahoo doesnt change position designations during the season. That is useful for me and the reason I got McCluster with one of my last picks in my auction. He provides depth at two positions.No need to keep an eye on Tebow b/c again, yahoo doesnt change designations during the season.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

WR on cbs which makes a difference in my league with scoring rushing yards for WRs differently.

 

[LittlePhatty]

a RB/WR on Yahoo

Seems like the best and most accurate solution. Double classification.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I've seen plenty of talk about hot waiver pickups which include McCluster, but nothing regarding his position designation. If they start playing him mostly at RB will MFL or any other site for that matter update him from WR to RB? I would think he's more valuable as a RB. Just curious as I think that makes a big difference in his value to potential Charles owners or RB needy teams.

He's been listed as a RB on MFL since the offseason. CBS lists him as a WR and when I contacted them they stated that he will remain a WR (this was prior to Charles getting injured though).

 

[VaTerp]

a RB/WR on Yahoo

Seems like the best and most accurate solution. Double classification.

Some people have a problem with it. I don't at all.Woodhead was listed as both last year too. This year he is listed as RB only as I suspect McCluster will be next year.I also agree with the policy not to change designations during the season. I specifically targeted McCluster b/c he was the only player listed as a RB/WR and with my auction strategy I knew I would need depth at both positions.I may even end up starting him this week as my flex due to injury/sucktitude on my squad.

 

[Irish Chaos]

think im starting him this week over denaurius moore at WR....

 

[warpedone]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

Yes he is. Wish I could take advantage of the WR designation, but RB is definitely the correct choice.

He's listed as a WR on the Chiefs website as well as NFL.comI think there used to be a rule that WRs could not have uniform numbers in the 20s, but I don't think it matters now as long as the numbers are between 1-49 and 80-89.

He is listed on kcchiefs and nfl as a WR on his profile page but a RB on both site's depth chart.

 

[davidwb]

Listed as both WR/RB on ESPN FFB site.

 

[atcdav]

CBSSportsline has him as WR. I asked them about it. They said they contacted the Chiefs directly and was told he is a WR. NFL rosters also show WR

 

[The_Wolfman]

Last year he had more receptions than carries, so it's really not that egregious.

 

[Joe Summer]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

Yes he is. Wish I could take advantage of the WR designation, but RB is definitely the correct choice.

He's listed as a WR on the Chiefs website as well as NFL.comI think there used to be a rule that WRs could not have uniform numbers in the 20s, but I don't think it matters now as long as the numbers are between 1-49 and 80-89.

He is listed on kcchiefs and nfl as a WR on his profile page but a RB on both site's depth chart.

The official Gamebooks for both Week 1 and Week 2 list him as a WR, and the NFL stats page puts him in the WR category as well.So much for a crystal clear answer. This is going to be like the Eric Metcalf days.

 

[JHuber77]

Keep an eye on Tim Tebow as well. He lined up as a WR this past Sunday. If they end up designating him as a WR and Denver ends up using him as a QB, this could win you your championship.

Yahoo has McCluster listed as RB/WR because there was talk of the Chiefs using him as a slot WR last season and this summer.During the abbreviated training camp, Haley came out and said that McCluster would be used as a RB so that's what he technically is.But Yahoo doesnt change position designations during the season. That is useful for me and the reason I got McCluster with one of my last picks in my auction. He provides depth at two positions.No need to keep an eye on Tebow b/c again, yahoo doesnt change designations during the season.

Ok, so Yahoo doesn't. Plenty of people use different league hosting sites.

 

[shadyridr]

Last year he had more receptions than carries, so it's really not that egregious.

last yr he was officially a wr

 

[VaTerp]

Keep an eye on Tim Tebow as well. He lined up as a WR this past Sunday. If they end up designating him as a WR and Denver ends up using him as a QB, this could win you your championship.

Yahoo has McCluster listed as RB/WR because there was talk of the Chiefs using him as a slot WR last season and this summer.During the abbreviated training camp, Haley came out and said that McCluster would be used as a RB so that's what he technically is.But Yahoo doesnt change position designations during the season. That is useful for me and the reason I got McCluster with one of my last picks in my auction. He provides depth at two positions.No need to keep an eye on Tebow b/c again, yahoo doesnt change designations during the season.

Ok, so Yahoo doesn't. Plenty of people use different league hosting sites.

True but I'd bet money that Tebow is not changed on ANY site.

 

[hickbones]

CBS's official response to me this morning:

"In regards to your inquiry about McCluster, we will not be making any changes to his position and eligibility.

If we make this change, it’s a change that affects all leagues across the system, including the single game leagues (free, gold, platinum, diamond, double diamond) that have already drafted and do not have the flexibility of the Commissioner product to adapt to these changes (edit service time features and the Commish access to make a quick change). Changing that position now invalidates the drafts for tens thousands of leagues. As I'm sure that you are aware, most of those people paid money too and do not have the features at their disposal to compensate for a sudden position change that would invalidate drafts or legal lineups.

If you want to have a flex slot used to make this player flexible in this regard, you can go to setup/league rules and positions and select to use a flew player. Make sure you select the one that suits your league's needs best and configure the roster limits accordingly. Be advised that changes to your roster limits will affect all scoring periods."

 

[mr roboto]

CBS's official response to me this morning:

"In regards to your inquiry about McCluster, we will not be making any changes to his position and eligibility.

If we make this change, it’s a change that affects all leagues across the system, including the single game leagues (free, gold, platinum, diamond, double diamond) that have already drafted and do not have the flexibility of the Commissioner product to adapt to these changes (edit service time features and the Commish access to make a quick change). Changing that position now invalidates the drafts for tens thousands of leagues. As I'm sure that you are aware, most of those people paid money too and do not have the features at their disposal to compensate for a sudden position change that would invalidate drafts or legal lineups.

If you want to have a flex slot used to make this player flexible in this regard, you can go to setup/league rules and positions and select to use a flew player. Make sure you select the one that suits your league's needs best and configure the roster limits accordingly. Be advised that changes to your roster limits will affect all scoring periods."

That's interesting. Makes sense.BUT WHAT ABOUT MY TEAM?

 

[Kleck]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

Yes he is. Wish I could take advantage of the WR designation, but RB is definitely the correct choice.

He's listed as a WR on the Chiefs website as well as NFL.comI think there used to be a rule that WRs could not have uniform numbers in the 20s, but I don't think it matters now as long as the numbers are between 1-49 and 80-89.

From the NFL RulebookRule 5: Players, Substitutes, Equipment, General Rules

Article 2: All players must wear numerals on their jerseys in accordance with Rule 5,

Section 4, Article 3©. Such numerals must be by playing position, as follows:

(a) quarterbacks, punters, and placekickers: 1-19;

(b) running backs and defensive backs: 20-49;

(d) offensive guards and tackles: 60-79;

(e) wide receivers: 10-19 and 80-89;

(f) tight ends: 80-89;

(g) defensive linemen: 50-79 and 90-99; and

(h) linebackers: 50-59 and 90-99.

If a player changes his position during his playing career in the NFL, and such change

moves him from a position as an ineligible pass receiver to that of an eligible pass receiver,

or from a position as an eligible pass receiver to that of an ineligible pass receiver,

he must be issued an appropriate new jersey numeral. A change in jersey numeral

is not required if the change is from an ineligible position to another ineligible position,

or from an eligible position to another eligible position, provided that the player

has participated at least one season at his position prior to the change.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

HE is a RB on MFL isn't he?

Yes he is. Wish I could take advantage of the WR designation, but RB is definitely the correct choice.

He's listed as a WR on the Chiefs website as well as NFL.comI think there used to be a rule that WRs could not have uniform numbers in the 20s, but I don't think it matters now as long as the numbers are between 1-49 and 80-89.

From the NFL RulebookRule 5: Players, Substitutes, Equipment, General Rules

Article 2: All players must wear numerals on their jerseys in accordance with Rule 5,

Section 4, Article 3©. Such numerals must be by playing position, as follows:

(a) quarterbacks, punters, and placekickers: 1-19;

(b) running backs and defensive backs: 20-49;

(d) offensive guards and tackles: 60-79;

(e) wide receivers: 10-19 and 80-89;

(f) tight ends: 80-89;

(g) defensive linemen: 50-79 and 90-99; and

(h) linebackers: 50-59 and 90-99.

If a player changes his position during his playing career in the NFL, and such change

moves him from a position as an ineligible pass receiver to that of an eligible pass receiver,

or from a position as an eligible pass receiver to that of an ineligible pass receiver,

he must be issued an appropriate new jersey numeral. A change in jersey numeral

is not required if the change is from an ineligible position to another ineligible position,

or from an eligible position to another eligible position, provided that the player

has participated at least one season at his position prior to the change.

This is really ridiculous. Any player can line up anywhere in an NFL game. I believe the team has to tell the ref and the ref has to announce if a non-receiver player is moved into a receiver eligible position for any given play. This happens sometimes with O-linemen who line up at the end of the line technically as a receiver eligible TE; but a team can put anyone anywhere for any given play regardless of their number. The old rules are still embedded in there somewhere but as a practical matter the current NFL does not innovate in terms of possible lineup formations like they did decades ago and that's too bad.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I can't see them removing the WR designation, or the RB one for that matter. As a rule of thumb, I don't think Yahoo! leagues remove positions. It was that way for Baseball at least. Basically, for Baseball, the rule was something like, if you play 20 games at a specific position in the prior year, you get that designation. If you play 20 in the current year and it's not listed, it gets added. I'd imagine they have a similar rule for football. They won't take it away. I'd guess that they shouldn't take it away in other leagues either. Wouldn't really be fair.

They will add, not subtract, in my experience. Wasn't yahoo the big play for Colston's breakout where he had TE elibigility?There was also the Joe Webb QB/WR bruhaha there

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Just dropped Braylon for McCluster in a yahoo league where he is a WR/RB.

Championship!

 

[Rathman44]

So the big question becomes where do you rank McCluster as a wr if he is eligible. I would imagine 60-80 total yards seems like a reasonable prediction. Based on those numbers your looking at a solid #3 wr borderline #2. If McCluster gets 10-15 touches a game I think there's a decent shot he will finish a top 25 wr, especially in leagues with a bonus for long td's.

 

[Kleck]

On the Chiefs' official website, McCluster is now listed as a RB on both the team roster and depth chart.

 

[Captain Hook]

So the big question becomes where do you rank McCluster as a wr if he is eligible. I would imagine 60-80 total yards seems like a reasonable prediction. Based on those numbers your looking at a solid #3 wr borderline #2. If McCluster gets 10-15 touches a game I think there's a decent shot he will finish a top 25 wr, especially in leagues with a bonus for long td's.

Look at Dodds listing of RB/WR Flex and see who is on either side of him.I use another set of weekly rankings that lists him as RB #44 this week - I think if he were in the WR ranks that would place him around #50 for PPR rankings

 

[Bob Henry]

I've been watching this one since the preseason during training camp when McAllister began working mostly with the RBs during team drills and practices.

As of this morning, he is officially listed on the Chief's roster and depth chart as a RB. That being said, just a couple weeks ago he was listed under RBs on the team's "official" depth charts, but he was still listed as a WR on the roster.

We have him listed as a RB here on the site, which I think is the right call. I understand the inconsistency out there among the various sites from ESPN, Yahoo, CSB, MFL, etc. If they are continuing to list them as a WR, it's unfortunate, but well within your league's rules to exploit as long as your league follows the position designations of your league's host site.

 

[Smarge]

Dexter as a RB

It's odd to me that he'd be designated as anything but a RB this season. The Chiefs said coming out of the off-season that he'd be used exclusively at RB; that's one of the reasons they signed Breaston to play in the slot.

 

[otb_lifer]

... still listed as WR on CBS ...

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Add in a rule each year that the commish can overrule positional issues. So if the site screws something up, like putting Colston @ TE or McCluster @ WR, the commish has the power to change someone's lineup if they play them at the site approved, wrong position.