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That would be a horrible trade for the RaidersI would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
That would be a horrible trade for the RaidersI would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
I have to imagine Sheldon Brown or Samuel would be a part of the trade, otherwise it's robbery by the Eagles.That would be a horrible trade for the RaidersI would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
I hear the Birds will not pull the trigger on this unless the Raiders throw in
Awesome.This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
To Al Davis and the Raiders, no. Which scenario is better: 1) no franchise or even good QB, but arguably the best CB in the league; or2) a franchise QB and a still at least decent defense and CB corps?I'd say every team in the league, if confronted with the choice, would take option 2. This is the classic win-win for the teams involved given their relative positions and needs going in.Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.finito said:Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?Peggy Starfish said:This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.cstu said:I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.gianmarco said:Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
Shocking you think so.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty.
McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.

McNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.finito said:Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?Peggy Starfish said:This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.cstu said:I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.gianmarco said:Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
The contract is a wash between McNabb and Asomugha, which is why trading a 2nd without getting a CB back from the Eagles doesn't make sense at all. Regarding next year, assuming the team improves greatly (huge assumption, I know) with McNabb then the 1st they traded for Seymour isn't that much of a loss. They can also franchise McNabb or Seymour next year, but I think they'd be able to get a deal with one or both of them if the team does well this year.McNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.finito said:Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?Peggy Starfish said:This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.cstu said:I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.
This team will struggle to be competitive with an unhappy McNabb to boot.
Only in a sitcom.As I posted in the Eagles thread but it applies here. Anyone else forsee a McNabb/TO reunion in Oakland?
Vaudeville anyone?Only in a sitcom.As I posted in the Eagles thread but it applies here. Anyone else forsee a McNabb/TO reunion in Oakland?
Vaudeville anyone?Only in a sitcom.As I posted in the Eagles thread but it applies here. Anyone else forsee a McNabb/TO reunion in Oakland?
Melodrama.All I am saying is that people tend to over simplify these trades It is not just player for player. The players contract is a huge part of the equation. IMO, there is a good analysis of the potential trade here. http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/3138.htmlMcNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.finito said:Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
This team will struggle to be competitive with an unhappy McNabb to boot.
It looks to me like it could be McNabb/Samuel (or Brown) for pick #39/Asomugha. Part of the appeal for the Raiders to take on McNabb without an extension is that they can get out from under Aso's contract.I wonder if Jason would give up his season tickets if that deal went down?All I am saying is that people tend to over simplify these trades It is not just player for player. The players contract is a huge part of the equation. IMO, there is a good analysis of the potential trade here. http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/3138.htmlMcNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.finito said:Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
This team will struggle to be competitive with an unhappy McNabb to boot.
he isnt worth both the pick and Aso.not saying Al wont do it. but that would be robbery by Philly if they got it doneMcNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crapGiven his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crapGiven his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Like I posted before, if McNabb does well with the Raiders I can see him signing an extension for a couple of more years. He'll be 35 in 2011 and it not like he'll be a hot commodity.Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crapGiven his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
You could also argue that having a tremendous man-crush on McNabb doesn't mean you know the man, and therefore him signing an extension in Oakland is a real possibility.Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crapGiven his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
if he goes to Oakland, Raiders go to the playoffs.This has not been verified, but a trusted source of a Philadelphia radio host on 97.5 says McNabb has been traded to St Louis for the 33rd pick in the 2010 draft. This is not in stone and could be completely b.s. But do with it what you will.
How do they get in? Win the Division; Wildcard?if he goes to Oakland, Raiders go to the playoffs.This has not been verified, but a trusted source of a Philadelphia radio host on 97.5 says McNabb has been traded to St Louis for the 33rd pick in the 2010 draft. This is not in stone and could be completely b.s. But do with it what you will.gives a big boost to Michael Bush, Schilens, Miller, etc
Way too early to predict the playoff picture for next year. We see surprise teams every year and I don't see why Oakland couldn't be one of them with a qb like McNabb.How do they get in? Win the Division; Wildcard?if he goes to Oakland, Raiders go to the playoffs.This has not been verified, but a trusted source of a Philadelphia radio host on 97.5 says McNabb has been traded to St Louis for the 33rd pick in the 2010 draft. This is not in stone and could be completely b.s. But do with it what you will.gives a big boost to Michael Bush, Schilens, Miller, etc
The AFC East likely will put the Patrioits and/or Jets; the North should put two or three of B'more, Pittsburgh and Cincy; the has Indy and possibly Houston and San Diego is still the best of the West. Even with McNabb Oakland is not better than any of those teams mentioned above.
Re the cost of franchising him, you ain't kidding. A franchised player gets the average of the 5 highest players at the position, and due up for contracts before then are Brees, Brady, and P Manning. If franchising him is Weird Al's fallback plan, he just keeps getting crazier and crazier.Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crapGiven his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Hey Cassius, not sure where you thought the snark was a welcome addition to the thread, or the forums in general, but I assure you it's not. Regardless, I never claimed to know 5 personally, nor have I suggested I'm not heavily biased in this matter. I wear my fandom on my sleeve, I don't pretend to have a very vested interest in what happens with the Eagles, and I think I've been quite open about the fact that personally I feel keeping McNabb is the odds on best thing for the franchise. I've also said that if the rumors become reality, and Kolb is the guy, I'll support him just as I have every other Eagles QB from Jim McMahon to Rodney Peete to Doug Pederson. My fear is, of course, that Kolb will be more Peete than McNabb; but I'll be giddy to be proven wrong just the same.You could also argue that having a tremendous man-crush on McNabb doesn't mean you know the man, and therefore him signing an extension in Oakland is a real possibility.Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crapGiven his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
):-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.
Here's some of what he said (not my opinion :( ):
-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.
Here's some of what he said (not my opinion :( ):
-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
My guesses are someone like Bush, Morrison, Howard or Huff.Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.
Here's some of what he said (not my opinion):
-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Surely not Davis' love child?Morrison doesn't make sense either as he's only tendered at a third I think? I'm surprised someone hasn't moved for him yet.Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.
Here's some of what he said (not my opinion):
-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
He's a better fantasy player than real life playerSurely not Davis' love child?Morrison doesn't make sense either as he's only tendered at a third I think? I'm surprised someone hasn't moved for him yet.Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.
Here's some of what he said (not my opinion):
-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Very interesting. This seems to contradict the "team is willing to meet demands" statement of yesterday...(pick in the first 42). Have the Eagles tipped their hand too much with McNabb here? It feels like they're grasping for anything at this point and someone (OAK, STL, MINN, ?) is going to get a top QB for a song.Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.
Here's some of what he said (not my opinion):
-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
yeah, considering that the last rumor I heard (yesterday I think) involved both Nnamdi AND a pick for McNabb and Asante, it seems weird that the whole side of the deal on their end is suddenly off the table.Very interesting. This seems to contradict the "team is willing to meet demands" statement of yesterday...(pick in the first 42). Have the Eagles tipped their hand too much with McNabb here? It feels like they're grasping for anything at this point and someone (OAK, STL, MINN, ?) is going to get a top QB for a song.Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.
Here's some of what he said (not my opinion):
-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.
(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)
-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.
-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)
-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.
-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.
-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Maybe Buffalo - not in Philly's conference and McNabb has ties to upstate NY due to his college days at Syracuse.Very interesting. This seems to contradict the "team is willing to meet demands" statement of yesterday...(pick in the first 42). Have the Eagles tipped their hand too much with McNabb here? It feels like they're grasping for anything at this point and someone (OAK, STL, MINN, ?) is going to get a top QB for a song.