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Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:58:50 -0700

ESPN.com reports the Oakland Raiders have emerged as the leading candidate to acquire Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, league sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter. The sources say all of the things are in place for a trade, and the Raiders are willing to match the Eagles' asking price.

 
Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.
This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.
 
Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.
This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
 
Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.
This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
To Al Davis and the Raiders, no. Which scenario is better: 1) no franchise or even good QB, but arguably the best CB in the league; or2) a franchise QB and a still at least decent defense and CB corps?I'd say every team in the league, if confronted with the choice, would take option 2. This is the classic win-win for the teams involved given their relative positions and needs going in.
 
Pretty much agree that McNabb is more valuable than NAdoghjaf Asomguafhx3 to the Raiders considering what a massive upgrade McNabb would be.

That said, Nadifjjgha Shomasu + an early 2nd is very steep.

Interesting that none of the reports indicate that McNabb is discussing an extension. This reminds me of the Raiders trading a 1st for Seymour last year in his contract year.

 
I'm having a hard time believing Nnamdi will be included in this deal. That said, we already know that we can suck WITH him on the team. This is clearly a QB-driven league, and the group we currently have makes me suicidal. Having Donny on the team would make it a lot more pleasant to get out of bed every morning.

 
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finito said:
Peggy Starfish said:
cstu said:
gianmarco said:
Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.
This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.
 
finito said:
Peggy Starfish said:
cstu said:
gianmarco said:
Schefter reporting that a deal involving Asomugha/37th pick for McNabb 90% complete.
I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.
This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.
McNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.

This team will struggle to be competitive with an unhappy McNabb to boot.

 
finito said:
Peggy Starfish said:
cstu said:
I would say that no one is stupid enough to make that trade and then I remember Al Davis.
This is all about Al Davis not being willing to wait to grow a team through the draft and wanting veterans who can win now while he's still alive. I think he knows he hasn't got long and simply wants another Super Bowl run now.
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.
McNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.

This team will struggle to be competitive with an unhappy McNabb to boot.
The contract is a wash between McNabb and Asomugha, which is why trading a 2nd without getting a CB back from the Eagles doesn't make sense at all. Regarding next year, assuming the team improves greatly (huge assumption, I know) with McNabb then the 1st they traded for Seymour isn't that much of a loss. They can also franchise McNabb or Seymour next year, but I think they'd be able to get a deal with one or both of them if the team does well this year.

I'm not so sure McNabb would be unhappy with the Raiders since it gives him a fresh start in a place where even adequate QB play would be cheered.

 
finito said:
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.
McNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.

This team will struggle to be competitive with an unhappy McNabb to boot.
All I am saying is that people tend to over simplify these trades It is not just player for player. The players contract is a huge part of the equation. IMO, there is a good analysis of the potential trade here. http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/3138.html
 
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finito said:
Isn't Asomugha worth more than McNabb alone?
You have to factor in Asomugha's ridiculous contract.
McNabb has only one year left on his contract too. Seymour hasn't signed to a long term deal and could walk after next year as well. If they don't resign McNabb or Seymour, they lose their best corner and without a 1st round pick next year they will have regressed big time. If this is Davis's idea of building a competitive team then he certainly is on the wrong medication.

This team will struggle to be competitive with an unhappy McNabb to boot.
All I am saying is that people tend to over simplify these trades It is not just player for player. The players contract is a huge part of the equation. IMO, there is a good analysis of the potential trade here. http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/3138.html
It looks to me like it could be McNabb/Samuel (or Brown) for pick #39/Asomugha. Part of the appeal for the Raiders to take on McNabb without an extension is that they can get out from under Aso's contract.I wonder if Jason would give up his season tickets if that deal went down?

 
McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.
 
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McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.
and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crap
 
McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.
and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crap
Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.
 
McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.
and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crap
Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.
Like I posted before, if McNabb does well with the Raiders I can see him signing an extension for a couple of more years. He'll be 35 in 2011 and it not like he'll be a hot commodity.
 
Could McNabb be influenced to sign a contract extension due to the potential lockout? If he becomes a free agent next offseason no-one in the their right mind would sign him until 2012 at which point he'll be pretty old and won't earn the same money he could by signing an extension now.

I may be totally wrong on this, just a thought.

 
McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.
and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crap
Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.
You could also argue that having a tremendous man-crush on McNabb doesn't mean you know the man, and therefore him signing an extension in Oakland is a real possibility.
 
This has not been verified, but a trusted source of a Philadelphia radio host on 97.5 says McNabb has been traded to St Louis for the 33rd pick in the 2010 draft. This is not in stone and could be completely b.s. But do with it what you will.
if he goes to Oakland, Raiders go to the playoffs. :thumbup: gives a big boost to Michael Bush, Schilens, Miller, etc

 
This has not been verified, but a trusted source of a Philadelphia radio host on 97.5 says McNabb has been traded to St Louis for the 33rd pick in the 2010 draft. This is not in stone and could be completely b.s. But do with it what you will.
if he goes to Oakland, Raiders go to the playoffs. :thumbup: gives a big boost to Michael Bush, Schilens, Miller, etc
How do they get in? Win the Division; Wildcard?

The AFC East likely will put the Patrioits and/or Jets; the North should put two or three of B'more, Pittsburgh and Cincy; the has Indy and possibly Houston and San Diego is still the best of the West. Even with McNabb Oakland is not better than any of those teams mentioned above.

 
This has not been verified, but a trusted source of a Philadelphia radio host on 97.5 says McNabb has been traded to St Louis for the 33rd pick in the 2010 draft. This is not in stone and could be completely b.s. But do with it what you will.
if he goes to Oakland, Raiders go to the playoffs. :thumbup: gives a big boost to Michael Bush, Schilens, Miller, etc
How do they get in? Win the Division; Wildcard?

The AFC East likely will put the Patrioits and/or Jets; the North should put two or three of B'more, Pittsburgh and Cincy; the has Indy and possibly Houston and San Diego is still the best of the West. Even with McNabb Oakland is not better than any of those teams mentioned above.
Way too early to predict the playoff picture for next year. We see surprise teams every year and I don't see why Oakland couldn't be one of them with a qb like McNabb.

 
McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.
and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crap
Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.
Re the cost of franchising him, you ain't kidding. A franchised player gets the average of the 5 highest players at the position, and due up for contracts before then are Brees, Brady, and P Manning. If franchising him is Weird Al's fallback plan, he just keeps getting crazier and crazier.
 
I would think McNabb signing an extension would be part of any deal where Oakland would give up their second round pick and a player. Even with the possibility of Favre finally retiring and the Vikings wanting to sign a QB, or if Leinart fails in Arizona and McNabb's supposed 2nd choice for a team would want to sign him; I can't see McNabb not taking the sure money rather than risk a lockout and get nothing.

 
McNabb for the 39th pick is a travesty. McNabb for the 39th and Aso is something I can begrudgingly live with.
Given his age and injury history, I think McNabb for the 39th is about right. With Aso, it's a steal for the Eagles, but seriously, we saw how bad the Raiders are with the current crop of QBs.
and its not like mcnabbs play has diminished drastically, it would give the raiders 3-4 years of QB play while getting the rest of the team in order. if eagles got aso, im banking mcnabb would be a raider longer then aso a eagle due to reids 30 and over crap
Except McNabb wouldn't sign an extension in Oakland. I guess you could argue they might franchise him but that's a massive financial commitment even for a team as illogical as the Raiders.
You could also argue that having a tremendous man-crush on McNabb doesn't mean you know the man, and therefore him signing an extension in Oakland is a real possibility.
Hey Cassius, not sure where you thought the snark was a welcome addition to the thread, or the forums in general, but I assure you it's not. Regardless, I never claimed to know 5 personally, nor have I suggested I'm not heavily biased in this matter. I wear my fandom on my sleeve, I don't pretend to have a very vested interest in what happens with the Eagles, and I think I've been quite open about the fact that personally I feel keeping McNabb is the odds on best thing for the franchise. I've also said that if the rumors become reality, and Kolb is the guy, I'll support him just as I have every other Eagles QB from Jim McMahon to Rodney Peete to Doug Pederson. My fear is, of course, that Kolb will be more Peete than McNabb; but I'll be giddy to be proven wrong just the same.
 
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion :kicksrock: ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
 
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Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion :( ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
:kicksrock: Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.

 
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion :( ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
:kicksrock: Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?
 
In some regards wouldn't the one year contract be a good thing? Players on their last year tend to work harder and perform better than those with a nice, fat long term deal.

If Mcnabb is more of a system QB and can't handle the AFC as well, the Raiders aren't stuck with him for many years to come. If he does do well and the Raiders make the playoffs, it's also incentive for him to stay there since he'll be wanted and a local hero.

I still wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles trade Kolb and pick up a young QB in the draft, if Reid feels Mcnabb still has 3 or 4 years left playing at a high level.

 
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion ;) ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
:confused: Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?
My guesses are someone like Bush, Morrison, Howard or Huff.

 
McNabb is not a durable QB is the other problem. You can see it in his games played/started, but even more so in his pass attempts. Check out his pass attempt rankings going back to 2004 and playing in what I believe we can all agree is one of the most pass-happy offenses in the league, with one of the most secure starting jobs in the league too:

2009: 22

2008: 4

2007: 11

2006: 28

2005: 21

2004: 14

Unlike Favre who, while years older than McNabb can claim an unbroken games started streak, Donny Mac seems like a fairly shaky guy to pin your hopes on as a franchise QB based upon his availability.

 
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion ;) ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
:confused: Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?
Surely not Davis' love child?Morrison doesn't make sense either as he's only tendered at a third I think? I'm surprised someone hasn't moved for him yet.

 
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion ;) ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
:confused: Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Who's of value in trade then? McFadden?
Surely not Davis' love child?Morrison doesn't make sense either as he's only tendered at a third I think? I'm surprised someone hasn't moved for him yet.
He's a better fantasy player than real life player
 
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion :lmao: ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
:thumbup: Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Very interesting. This seems to contradict the "team is willing to meet demands" statement of yesterday...(pick in the first 42). Have the Eagles tipped their hand too much with McNabb here? It feels like they're grasping for anything at this point and someone (OAK, STL, MINN, ?) is going to get a top QB for a song.
 
Adam Schefter was just live on Sacramento's KHTK 1140 this morning.

Here's some of what he said (not my opinion :loco: ):

-Nnamdi Asomugha isn't part of the McNabb deal, picks aren't even involved.

(at this point I was pissed because the radio guys cut him off and changed the subject instead of asking who was on the table. Bush? Morrison?)

-Raiders are the most likely team to add McNabb.

-The main reason why McNabb isn't being sought by other teams is because of his contract. (1 yr left, bonus due, franchising would be steep.)

-If OAK adds McNabb, they then becomes a playoff candidate.

-You could also argue Oakland could win the AFC West.

-No teams want Nnamdi Asomugha because of his contract.
:angry: Neither picks nor Asomugha? That doesn't make any sense.
Very interesting. This seems to contradict the "team is willing to meet demands" statement of yesterday...(pick in the first 42). Have the Eagles tipped their hand too much with McNabb here? It feels like they're grasping for anything at this point and someone (OAK, STL, MINN, ?) is going to get a top QB for a song.
yeah, considering that the last rumor I heard (yesterday I think) involved both Nnamdi AND a pick for McNabb and Asante, it seems weird that the whole side of the deal on their end is suddenly off the table.
 
Very interesting. This seems to contradict the "team is willing to meet demands" statement of yesterday...(pick in the first 42). Have the Eagles tipped their hand too much with McNabb here? It feels like they're grasping for anything at this point and someone (OAK, STL, MINN, ?) is going to get a top QB for a song.
Maybe Buffalo - not in Philly's conference and McNabb has ties to upstate NY due to his college days at Syracuse.
 
For the record, I would like the Eagles to keep McNabb the final year of his contract due to him giving the team the best chance to win this year. With that being said and the position the eagles have put themselves in I see no way McNabb ISNT traded. I'm fine with Kolb starting but my expectations for this year will be lower. McNabb to the Raiders appears real close, I'm hoping the Eagles get the Raiders 2nd rd pick. Dont know if "Aso" will be involved but he is a stud, Dont know if the Eagles would be willing to pay his $16 million salary this year and $16 million or the franchise tag number whichever is greater for 2011. Thats about $32 million, wow..I read earlier in the thread about the trade being lopsided but I can see the Raiders dumping that salary off their cap. Hopefully the trade happens soon, I'm sick of all the rumors and more sick of hearing about how he fits in the Raiders plans...Pull the trigger Andy jeez

 
Why do I feel as though the Rams and Eagles are both playing games right now and that eventually it will be these two teams that trade?

Eagles are pushing that they have a real offer from Raiders and at the same time the Rams are pushing that they will take their time and wait on Bradford.

I don't know, just a random observation.

I'm a McNabb fan but think it is time to part ways.

 
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