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James Daulton said:
You can recruit someone to being gay?
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i was recruited to 'hetero' by my friend Yogi back in the third grade ... never gave girls a second thought 'til he taught me the ol'  - drop pencil, look up skirt - shtick 

can't see why it wouldn't work the "other" way  :shrug:

 
James Daulton said:
You can recruit someone to being gay?
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Depends on your definition of 'gay' really. But the short answer is yes, peer pressure and influence can make a difference in someone es sexual expression. Some studies have shown even more so with young women that they are much more open to lesbian and bisexual sexual expression than men, even many who would identify as straight. 

 
James Daulton said:
I'm douching up the conversation?  You implied that high level teen basketball girls were turning each other gay.  It's ridiculous.  

And since you're such an expert on the subject, I guess that 98% of Division 1 women's basketball teams are gay too?  Since that's where the WNBA gets its players from.  
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When you asked at what age young lesbians started recruiting other young girls yes.

Nice non sequitur to follow up with.

 
James Daulton said:
You can recruit someone to being gay?
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Look at it from the other side. Look how many moronic parents try to put their gay kids through conversion therapy. The fact that it happens is not an argument into the validity of it. I dont think he was bringing up the recruitment parties to argue that it makes the high percentage of gay women in basketball. I think he was using it to illustrate that there is in fact pressure. 

 
mr roboto said:
Depends on your definition of 'gay' really. But the short answer is yes, peer pressure and influence can make a difference in someone es sexual expression. Some studies have shown even more so with young women that they are much more open to lesbian and bisexual sexual expression than men, even many who would identify as straight. 
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So the people ITT are saying that people who would normally be straight can be turned and stay gay?  Perhaps for a small percentage but I just don't believe it for the vast majority of people who are gay.

 
mr roboto said:
Depends on your definition of 'gay' really. But the short answer is yes, peer pressure and influence can make a difference in someone es sexual expression. Some studies have shown even more so with young women that they are much more open to lesbian and bisexual sexual expression than men, even many who would identify as straight. 
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This is very true. It's an underground hip hop thing, even. Called: just give them a nudge. 

Women tend to be a bit more lesbian in their youths than men are homosexual. 

 
For those that disagree: go to a modern club sometime. 

Also, the lead abortionist bisexual is Nicki Minaj. Just read the name aloud. 

 
rockaction said:
This is very true. It's an underground hip hop thing, even. Called: just give them a nudge. 

Women tend to be a bit more lesbian in their youths than men are homosexual. 
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But for the WNBA to be 98% gay, they'd have had to have stayed gay.  The only reason I posted in this topic to begin with was this ridiculous assertion.

 
rockaction said:
This is very true. It's an underground hip hop thing, even. Called: just give them a nudge. 

Women tend to be a bit more lesbian in their youths than men are homosexual. 
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And I'm well aware that it's hip (and awesome) for  chicks to kiss and whatnot, but certainly not to turn gay.

 
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James Daulton said:
But for the WNBA to be 98% gay, they'd have had to have stayed gay.  The only reason I posted in this topic to begin with was this ridiculous assertion.
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I agree. 98% is a ludicrous figure. Wasn't arguing that.  

eta* 98% is so stupid, I can't believe it's taken seriously. But there is a lot of lesbianism in the WNBA, and that may be her broader point, which actually is hurt by the exaggeration of the figure.  She could have said 40-50% and been credible.  

 
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rockaction said:
I agree. 98% is a ludicrous figure. Wasn't arguing that.  

eta* 98% is so stupid, I can't believe it's taken seriously. But there is a lot of lesbianism in the WNBA, and that may be her broader point, which actually is hurt by the exaggeration of the figure.  She could have said 40-50% and been credible.  
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Exactly my thoughts.  Some people ITT seemed intent on somehow "proving" that the 98% was possible or even reasonable.

Like Sasha Grey in your avatar was probably gay for pay but not IRL.

 
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Uwe Blab said:
Not to be a PITA and off topic but what does this mean?  She's spoken pretty regretfully of her past
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It means I had a conversation with a young woman the other night who liked Nicki and whom I suspect is going through similar issues. 

You're right to point it out, but it doesn't change the damage, nor does her current persona seem to speak regretfully. It seems to speak fully, but I think we can agree to disagree here.  

 
James Daulton said:
So the people ITT are saying that people who would normally be straight can be turned and stay gay?  Perhaps for a small percentage but I just don't believe it for the vast majority of people who are gay.
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No. You seem to equate 'current sexual expression' with 'immutable sexual identity.'

 
James Daulton said:
I don't think so.  If 98% of the WNBA player are gay, that's a far cry from current sexual expression, yes?
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Yes. And I don't think it's 98%. And of those players that are 'gay' some % of them won't stay 'gay'. 

But... I bet it's way higher than a random sampling of women in this country of the same age. And I also don't doubt the notion that young women could become 'gay' at least for a period of time based on peer pressure. 

 
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mr roboto said:
Yes. And I don't think it's 98%. And if those players that are 'gay' some % of them won't stay 'gay'. 

But... I bet it's way higher than a random sampling of women in this country of the same age. And I also don't doubt the notion that young women could become 'gay' at least for a period of time based on peer pressure. 
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And folks would have you believe that peer pressure is always bad.

 
I don't have a link but she did a follow on interview where she said she used the 98% number only as a point of emphasis.   I think she is fully aware the number is much lower.

 
Maybe she asked some guys to poll the league. 

Those that refused were marked gay.  

 
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