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Michael Lewis:The Ray Rice Video For The Financial Sector Has Arrived (1 Viewer)

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This American Life 536 - The Secret Recording of Carmen Segarra



Wall Street is about to be rocked by secretly recorded audio tapes that purport to show a too-cozy relationship between the New York Federal Reserve Bank and the financial institutions it is supposed to regulate.The 45 hours of tapes, made by Carmen Segarra, a former NY Fed worker, capture former co-workers, whose job was to keep banks like Goldman Sachs in line, instead deferring to the banks, being unwilling to take action and being extremely passive, according to public radio’s “This American Life,” andProPublica which obtained the tapes and is scheduled to air a program about the matter Friday night.

Segarra, ironically, was hired by the NY Fed in October 2011 to help toughen up their oversight. She was fired in 2013 after, she claims in a lawsuit, she tried to get Goldman to toe the line on regulations.

The NY Fed has regulators embedded at each of the large banks it oversees. On her first day on the job, Segarra was assigned to Goldman.

The pushback from Goldman started right away. At one of her first meetings, a senior compliance officer at Goldman said certain consumer laws didn’t apply to the bank’s wealthier clients.

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“I was shocked,” Segarra tells a reporter for the show, adding that her notes on the meeting had that exact line.

Goldman, through a more seasoned Fed regulator also embedded at the Wall Street bank,told Segarra her notes were wrong.

Segarra said they weren’t.

Her more senior colleague asked her to change the notes.

She refused.

That senior colleague would later tell Segarra, according to a transcript of the program, that “credibility at the Fed is about subtleties and about perceptions, as opposed to reality.”

Said Segarra: “I found it to be completely incredible.”

Goldman and the NY Fed, as an answer to her lawsuit, have denied the charges.

David Beim, the Columbia University business professor whose 2009 report on how the NY Fed could improve its oversight of banks — a report which led to Segarra’s hiring — called the ability of banks to co-opt and tame NY Fed workers “regulatory capture.”

Michael Lewis, best-selling author of “Flash Boys: A Wall Street Revolt” and “Liar’s Poker,” said after listening to the tapes: “The Ray Rice video for the financial sector has arrived.”
http://nypost.com/2014/09/26/tapes-showing-meek-oversight-of-goldman-are-about-to-rock-wall-street/

 
Somehow I think this will get no play in the mainstream media
because they know the public will yawn and not really care. Financial scandals are boring and hard to understand. It's ironic that it was compared to the Ray Rice video because that's the exact opposite: man hits woman caught on video, everybody understands it, instant ratings. You guys spend far too much time looking for bias and conspiracy in the media when the truth is much more simple: they're out to make a buck.

 
Somehow I think this will get no play in the mainstream media
because they know the public will yawn and not really care. Financial scandals are boring and hard to understand. It's ironic that it was compared to the Ray Rice video because that's the exact opposite: man hits woman caught on video, everybody understands it, instant ratings.You guys spend far too much time looking for bias and conspiracy in the media when the truth is much more simple: they're out to make a buck.
Which in and of itself is bias Tim. And they are not in it just to make a buck, they are also very careful not to bite the hand unless forced. Oh and the public is pretty pissed off by the lack of punishment for cratering the economy. Still. It drags on Obama's popularity in polls to this day. You might be surprised how interested a lot of voters could be.

 
I have not heard the NPR piece yet, but they discussed it on Marketplace last night ( :nerd: ) and one of the criticisms of Segarra is that she apparently had applied for jobs at Goldman 4 times, only to be turned down each time. They implied that she may have had an axe to grind against Goldman.

Still, though, while these tapes may shed some light on the relationships between the banks and the Fed....does this really surprise anyone?

 
Yeah I know NC. While many conservatives are convinced that the media is beholden to a liberal agenda, many progressives are convinced that the media is beholden to a corporate agenda. Been hearing both theories my entire life. I'm probably a little more sympathetic to yours, though I remain skeptical of both. And anyhow I don't view corporations as the enemy.

 
Somehow I think this will get no play in the mainstream media
because they know the public will yawn and not really care. Financial scandals are boring and hard to understand. It's ironic that it was compared to the Ray Rice video because that's the exact opposite: man hits woman caught on video, everybody understands it, instant ratings.You guys spend far too much time looking for bias and conspiracy in the media when the truth is much more simple: they're out to make a buck.
Which in and of itself is bias Tim. And they are not in it just to make a buck, they are also very careful not to bite the hand unless forced. Oh and the public is pretty pissed off by the lack of punishment for cratering the economy. Still. It drags on Obama's popularity in polls to this day. You might be surprised how interested a lot of voters could be.
this has nothing to do with Obama,the Bush's , Clinton or anyone with a D or R . Its an institutional problem

 
Yeah I know NC. While many conservatives are convinced that the media is beholden to a liberal agenda, many progressives are convinced that the media is beholden to a corporate agenda. Been hearing both theories my entire life. I'm probably a little more sympathetic to yours, though I remain skeptical of both. And anyhow I don't view corporations as the enemy.
I don't view corporations/big business as the enemy .I do feel the "liberal & conservative" media outlets want anything to do with the coziness of the fed & banks

 
I have not heard the NPR piece yet, but they discussed it on Marketplace last night ( :nerd: ) and one of the criticisms of Segarra is that she apparently had applied for jobs at Goldman 4 times, only to be turned down each time. They implied that she may have had an axe to grind against Goldman.

Still, though, while these tapes may shed some light on the relationships between the banks and the Fed....does this really surprise anyone?
I just read the Lewis article and didn't listen to the show, but she has recordings, right? Who cares if she has an axe to grind? Sounds like these guys (hopefully) dug their own grave.

 
Good grief, the regulators getting "captured" by the regulated is a story about as old as regulation itself.

Nothing (new) to see here.

 
Good grief, the regulators getting "captured" by the regulated is a story about as old as regulation itself.

Nothing (new) to see here.
So, we shouldn't care about it? We (the non 1%) shouldn't care to learn *some* of the reasons that real wages haven't gone up in about a decade?

The economic system in the western world is shameful.

 
I have not heard the NPR piece yet, but they discussed it on Marketplace last night ( :nerd: ) and one of the criticisms of Segarra is that she apparently had applied for jobs at Goldman 4 times, only to be turned down each time. They implied that she may have had an axe to grind against Goldman.

Still, though, while these tapes may shed some light on the relationships between the banks and the Fed....does this really surprise anyone?
I'm tired of that line of thinking - no one happy with GS would release these tapes.

Neat financial system.
 
Good grief, the regulators getting "captured" by the regulated is a story about as old as regulation itself.

Nothing (new) to see here.
So, we shouldn't care about it? We (the non 1%) shouldn't care to learn *some* of the reasons that real wages haven't gone up in about a decade?

The economic system in the western world is shameful.
As opposed to the eastern world?.
Probably also shameful.

 
Somehow I think this will get no play in the mainstream media
Yeah..they own the media. The best you can hope for is a total meltdown of the financial system and then a subsequent 'French Revolution' type period where we go after these types with pitchforks and blades.

 
Wtf ever came of the LIBOR scandal that was supposed to rock the banking world? Ptobably a few million dollar fines for companies making billions.

 
Wtf ever came of the LIBOR scandal that was supposed to rock the banking world? Ptobably a few million dollar fines for companies making billions.
Hey man, they lost DAYS worth of profits!

The system works.

 
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Somehow I think this will get no play in the mainstream media
Yeah..they own the media. The best you can hope for is a total meltdown of the financial system and then a subsequent 'French Revolution' type period where we go after these types with pitchforks and blades.
Yes, because the French Revolution turned out so well.
Over the long term, it did. Plus in the short term, a whole lot of people got what they deserved. :thumbup:

Personally, I'm looking forward to the potential pitchfork era we're trending toward. Once people realize they're not getting a fair shake, all the rules tend to go out the window.

 
Somehow I think this will get no play in the mainstream media
Yeah..they own the media. The best you can hope for is a total meltdown of the financial system and then a subsequent 'French Revolution' type period where we go after these types with pitchforks and blades.
Yes, because the French Revolution turned out so well.
Over the long term, it did. Plus in the short term, a whole lot of people got what they deserved. :thumbup:

Personally, I'm looking forward to the potential pitchfork era we're trending toward. Once people realize they're not getting a fair shake, all the rules tend to go out the window.
No and no.

 
Neat financial system.
:goodposting:

Wtf ever came of the LIBOR scandal that was supposed to rock the banking world? Ptobably a few million dollar fines for companies making billions.
Hey man, they lost DAYS worth of profits!

The system works.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Carmen Segarra is a traitor and and should faces charges for treason.
:lmao: :lmao:

Personally, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to find out the whole thing is rigged.

 
I call BS.

I work for a north east bank. I work in corporate accounting and I work on restructures. The type that close down an entity in one country and open a new one in another due to "tax advantages". I can tell you first hand that The Fed is all over our ### about this stuff and they do not defer anything to our judgement. It takes weeks and months just to do a simple change to your bank structure.

Is it different in NY or with GS? maybe. But I can tell you this is not the case in Boston or is it the case for my company.

We all love a good banks are evil story.... heck I even agree with some of it.... but this isn't true in my experience.

 
This American Life piece is fantastic. It certainly raises some questions about how all this works. But it is far from comprehensive.

 
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I call BS.

I work for a north east bank. I work in corporate accounting and I work on restructures. The type that close down an entity in one country and open a new one in another due to "tax advantages". I can tell you first hand that The Fed is all over our ### about this stuff and they do not defer anything to our judgement. It takes weeks and months just to do a simple change to your bank structure.

Is it different in NY or with GS? maybe. But I can tell you this is not the case in Boston or is it the case for my company.

We all love a good banks are evil story.... heck I even agree with some of it.... but this isn't true in my experience.
NY Fed is a bit more lenient than the regional ones from my experience. However, this really isn't a good example of that. There is very little here besides a disgruntled employee. I sympathize with her because I have often had less serious conversations in a similar vein. Hard to image that most employers are going to be a fan of a brand new person being outspoken and challenging their management like that.

Anyhow, regulating banks is always going to be tough. The potential for capture is going to be worse than most industries due to shear amount of different regulators banks face with varying scope and responsibilities. This question needs to be answered in the laws themselves, but Dodd-Frank only made that problem worse. We really need to consolidate these agencies under a single chain of command while expanding their headcount to make them more effective. The nature of the Fed would be toughest, but I see little argument against the rest.

 

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