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I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
 
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
I think if he keeps his nose clean the endorsements will come. Look at Ray Lewis , he killed a human now hes on old spice commercials.
 
Vick is the only player that I have ever wished to have a career ending injury. Any one who organizes the killing of innocent life is a horrible human being.

that said, I respect and understand people that forgave him because he "paid his debt to society", while I expect those people to respect my unforgiving view of him.

 
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
I think if he keeps his nose clean the endorsements will come. Look at Ray Lewis , he killed a human now hes on old spice commercials.
I keep seeing this and wish people would check their facts before posting.Lewis was with people when I fight broke out and unfortunately two people died as a result of the fight. No evidence was presented that Lewis was even an active participate in the fight. And the guys who actually stabbed the men were acquitted of all charges.

Saying Ray Lewis killed a human is false yet people keep throwing it out there very casually.

 
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
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As far as I'm concerned, these players that hang out with their weapon-toting entourage's at 2AM in the morning at places where trouble is predictable (i.e. where other weapon-toting people congregate) are guilty by association. To me there's not much difference between Vick or Lewis. And yes, there wasn't any evidence presented that Lewis was an active participant in the fight, but the whole account was pretty suspicious and not really very believable. It's pretty likely that he was at least involved in the cover up. After all, OJ got off too but what does that really mean.

 
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I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
:2cents:
:2cents:Are you slow?
 
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
:2cents:
:confused:Are you slow?
:2cents: No need for the personal insult.
 
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Dragon1952 said:
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
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:confused:Are you slow?
Be way cooler if you want to post here. TIA.J
 
whitem0nkey said:
Vick is the only player that I have ever wished to have a career ending injury. Any one who organizes the killing of innocent life is a horrible human being. that said, I respect and understand people that forgave him because he "paid his debt to society", while I expect those people to respect my unforgiving view of him.
animals != humansI hope this helps.
 
I wish instant and permanent maiming to any professional athlete who engages in organized killing of innocent animals, such as bear hunting.

Oh and fishing.



DIE ATHLETES!!!1

 
whitem0nkey said:
Vick is the only player that I have ever wished to have a career ending injury. Any one who organizes the killing of innocent life is a horrible human being. that said, I respect and understand people that forgave him because he "paid his debt to society", while I expect those people to respect my unforgiving view of him.
animals != humansI hope this helps.
No, it really doesn't help. Kind of an inane point really. You do better when you stick with schtick.
 
I wish instant and permanent maiming to any professional athlete who engages in organized killing of innocent animals, such as bear hunting.

Oh and fishing.



DIE ATHLETES!!!1
Yeah because they are both the same thing. :mellow:
Ok, so we're segregating the different kinds of organized killing of innocent animals for sport then? Is dog hunting OK? Dogs fighting other dogs = prison for life and shunned from society forever, but dogs fighting people? Let's get the boys together for the weekend, drive out to a cabin, smoke some stogies and celebrate that!
 
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I also hope everyone in Spain ends up in a wheelchair and out of work. Bullfighting is barbaric.

 
I wish instant and permanent maiming to any professional athlete who engages in organized killing of innocent animals, such as bear hunting.

Oh and fishing.



DIE ATHLETES!!!1
Yeah because they are both the same thing. :mellow:
Ok, so we're segregating the different kinds of organized killing of innocent animals for sport then? Is dog hunting OK? Dogs fighting other dogs = prison for life and shunned from society forever, but dogs fighting people? Let's get the boys together for the weekend, drive out to a cabin, smoke some stogies and celebrate that!
English please? And yeah, the status of dogs in our culture is *slightly* different than that of wild animals. Not to mention intent, utility, quality of pain inflicted, etc. etc.
 
I also hope everyone in Spain ends up in a wheelchair and out of work. Bullfighting is barbaric.
It is barbaric. Can't really control what they do there though can we? That's the funny thing about civilization-it evolves and some areas on earth have evolved further than others.
 
I wish instant and permanent maiming to any professional athlete who engages in organized killing of innocent animals, such as bear hunting.

Oh and fishing.



DIE ATHLETES!!!1
Yeah because they are both the same thing. :bag:
Ok, so we're segregating the different kinds of organized killing of innocent animals for sport then? Is dog hunting OK? Dogs fighting other dogs = prison for life and shunned from society forever, but dogs fighting people? Let's get the boys together for the weekend, drive out to a cabin, smoke some stogies and celebrate that!
English please? And yeah, the status of dogs in our culture is *slightly* different than that of wild animals. Not to mention intent, utility, quality of pain inflicted, etc. etc.
:mellow: Which part wasn't English.Ok, so it's not the organized killed of innocent animals for sport that you have a problem with. It's just the organized killing of innocent dogs for sport?

Dogs are special animals and deserve special treatment. Hurting them should result in severe penalties. Is that because you own or have owned one? Or saw lassie?

Where do cats and goldfish and turtles fit into all of this? If my buddy raises box turtles to fight in his yard, should we wish permanent injury on him, take away his livelihood, and never forgive him?

 
I wish instant and permanent maiming to any professional athlete who engages in organized killing of innocent animals, such as bear hunting.

Oh and fishing.



DIE ATHLETES!!!1
Yeah because they are both the same thing. :thumbup:
Ok, so we're segregating the different kinds of organized killing of innocent animals for sport then? Is dog hunting OK? Dogs fighting other dogs = prison for life and shunned from society forever, but dogs fighting people? Let's get the boys together for the weekend, drive out to a cabin, smoke some stogies and celebrate that!
English please? And yeah, the status of dogs in our culture is *slightly* different than that of wild animals. Not to mention intent, utility, quality of pain inflicted, etc. etc.
:coffee: Which part wasn't English.Ok, so it's not the organized killed of innocent animals for sport that you have a problem with. It's just the organized killing of innocent dogs for sport?

Dogs are special animals and deserve special treatment. Hurting them should result in severe penalties. Is that because you own or have owned one? Or saw lassie?

Where do cats and goldfish and turtles fit into all of this? If my buddy raises box turtles to fight in his yard, should we wish permanent injury on him, take away his livelihood, and never forgive him?
Otis you're being purposely obtuse and I'm being fished (get a few chuckles :elsewhere I'm sure).The Lassie line was good though (I don't think I've actually ever seen it FWIW).

If your buddy can train box turtles to fight more power to him. I wouldn't really be into that sort of thing myself.

 
Otis you're being purposely obtuse and I'm being fished (get a few chuckles :elsewhere I'm sure).

The Lassie line was good though (I don't think I've actually ever seen it FWIW).

If your buddy can train box turtles to fight more power to him. I wouldn't really be into that sort of thing myself.
I'm really not being purposefully obtuse. I'm trying to focus on the facts and explain the reasons why I think the OUTRAGE everyone is still expressing over the dog fighting thing is complete and absolute lunacy.Move on, folks. He got caught, he paid up. It's an ugly world out there, and plenty worse than goldfish battles happens every day.

 
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
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:confused:Are you slow?
Be way cooler if you want to post here. TIA.J
Aye Aye, Captain :salutes: YWIA.G
 
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
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:confused:Are you slow?
:thumbdown: No need for the personal insult.
Perhaps not, and perhaps no insult would be necessary if your post had more substance than a cute little thumbdown smiley. Just a thought. For instance, what about my post didn't you like? I gave reasons for why I don't think Vick is likely to get any endorsement deals. They were based on rational thought rather than my personal feelings about Vick as a person man, whom I firmly believe deserves a second chance; and furthermore, while I do believe the reasons I outlined are likely to deter any potential suitors in the advertising world, I never once said I thought it was fair. So, rather than hide between your lame little emoticon which tells me and everyone else absolutely nothing, why don't you explain your problem with my post? Who are you trying to defend here? In short, what's your agenda, chief?
 
I think he may be very close to getting some product endorsements again. Who would have ever thought that.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. You could be right, but I think any company giving Vick an endorsement deal would be taking a HUGE risk. His story is great, yes. But I think you may be discounting just how many people still and always will look at Vick as nothing but a giant POS, and no great redemption story is gong to dissuade them from this way of thinking
I think if he keeps his nose clean the endorsements will come. Look at Ray Lewis , he killed a human now hes on old spice commercials.
America likes dogs more than people.
 
America likes dogs more than people.
Actually America is confused. They want to rid of Pit Bulls because they are dangerous ferocious animals that can't be trusted around kids, and want to rid of Vick for harming these same animals. Both lose out no matter what.And to add to Otis' statement, if Vick was raising fighting cocks or even fighting betas (fish) people wouldn't have an issue. But because they are dogs he wil never live it down.I think what Vick had done in the past is tragic, a horrible choice. He has changed his direction and I'm almost certain will never venture down that path again, as he has found a positive focus in life. I let him move on.
 
America likes dogs more than people.
Actually America is confused. They want to rid of Pit Bulls because they are dangerous ferocious animals that can't be trusted around kids, and want to rid of Vick for harming these same animals. Both lose out no matter what.And to add to Otis' statement, if Vick was raising fighting cocks or even fighting betas (fish) people wouldn't have an issue. But because they are dogs he wil never live it down.I think what Vick had done in the past is tragic, a horrible choice. He has changed his direction and I'm almost certain will never venture down that path again, as he has found a positive focus in life. I let him move on.
Aramis Ramirez of the Cubs caught a little bit of flack a couple of off seasons ago for appearing in a Dominican (oops!)#### Fighting magazine, but no one remembers that now.
 
I wish instant and permanent maiming to any professional athlete who engages in organized killing of innocent animals, such as bear hunting.

Oh and fishing.



DIE ATHLETES!!!1
Yeah because they are both the same thing. :lmao:
Ok, so we're segregating the different kinds of organized killing of innocent animals for sport then? Is dog hunting OK? Dogs fighting other dogs = prison for life and shunned from society forever, but dogs fighting people? Let's get the boys together for the weekend, drive out to a cabin, smoke some stogies and celebrate that!
English please? And yeah, the status of dogs in our culture is *slightly* different than that of wild animals. Not to mention intent, utility, quality of pain inflicted, etc. etc.
Blah blah they are all animals. many people keep some of them as pets as well. However, we have a double standard here. Kill just about every animal but dogs & you're ok. Kill dogs & you're useless forever.Unreal. :rolleyes: :confused:

 
He could get paid to do Mighty Dog commercials and no one would know if it was some sorta debt owed or if it were sponsorship.

I always think, really are we still going there? And threads like this show me we are. It's surprising as Vick is sliced bread lately and ....interesting is all I guess

 
Vick is the only player that I have ever wished to have a career ending injury. Any one who organizes the killing of innocent life is a horrible human being. that said, I respect and understand people that forgave him because he "paid his debt to society", while I expect those people to respect my unforgiving view of him.
But u want Ray Lewis returning pick sixes?He killed someone over drugs, but is that ok?
 
I wish instant and permanent maiming to any professional athlete who engages in organized killing of innocent animals, such as bear hunting.

Oh and fishing.



DIE ATHLETES!!!1
Yeah because they are both the same thing. :lmao:
Ok, so we're segregating the different kinds of organized killing of innocent animals for sport then? Is dog hunting OK? Dogs fighting other dogs = prison for life and shunned from society forever, but dogs fighting people? Let's get the boys together for the weekend, drive out to a cabin, smoke some stogies and celebrate that!
English please? And yeah, the status of dogs in our culture is *slightly* different than that of wild animals. Not to mention intent, utility, quality of pain inflicted, etc. etc.
Blah blah they are all animals. many people keep some of them as pets as well. However, we have a double standard here. Kill just about every animal but dogs & you're ok. Kill dogs & you're useless forever.Unreal. :rolleyes: :own3d:
Got to love our world huh?On an off topic soap box: just remember our laws are made by old men who are out of touch with the real world that is not Wash DC, and on top of it make their decisions based of money and not on a moral ground.

I am a man who owns and loves his pit like a child, but on the other hand, in a weird way I agree with his angle that its ok to hunt but not ok to fight dogs. Both are for entertainment purposes, but to make my point....because some old white guy who we have never met, yet dont understand any of the cultural views determined what we are allowed and not allowed to do. so deer hunting allowed, dog fighting no...at least the dogs have a chance what about the deer...you know the animal we grew up singing about in rudolph the rednose reindeer....lol wow the double standard huh?

should dog fighting be legal? I dont know, but i know this....

Point is we are not a free country and we have no liberties at all.

 
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Sabertooth said:
Packers beat him once. They will do it again.
He took the Packers apart like a cheap suit....too bad Kolb staked them to an early lead, or it wouldn't have been close.
 

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