Here, we call that Pasadena or La Porte.I also remember my dad talking the Chicago Skyway to Gary when we went on family vacations to points east. This was back when the steel mills were still open so there were smells I wasn't familiar with.
I don't know who asked for it but there's a new disco remix of "I Was Made for Lovin You" by Kiss. Not gonna lie, it sounds great w/ headphones
A newly remastered box set of David Lee Roth's Warners stuff. The band he put together for Eat 'Em & Smile was phenomenal.
Made me look!I did the #18s last night and there is an epic 1-2 punch coming tomorrow morning too.
Back in the '70s, I had a couple of friends who were die-hard Rush fans. I saw them fight people who would criticize the band. So, I would poke at them sometimes but they knew it was tongue-in-cheek coming from me (they'd still get steamed, though). I like Rush and, while I don't think I'd want to marathon 7 hours of Lee singing, the voice doesn't bother me. They learned how to write to his voice and the musicianship is fantastic, so the lyrics (the other biggest complaint about the band) don't get in the way for me (I can't understand most of them anyway).Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been to hard on Rush?
Because you don't know the words or because Peart's lyrics are obtuse at best?(I can't understand most of them anyway).
Both. The way Lee sings makes it hard for me to know what the words are. I have that problem with a lot of other singers, too (Robert Plant, for one). I've read lyric sheets and don't have a freaking clue most of the time what Peart is trying to say, and I don't care enough to want to know.Because you don't know the words or because Peart's lyrics are obtuse at best?(I can't understand most of them anyway).
I like Rush. I'm not a hardcore fan, but I had their Moving Pictures, and Exit...Stage Left albums growing up, and I heard some of their other albums from friends. Their music can get a little bit too progressive for me, but I do like several of their songs, and as Uruk mentioned their musicianship is fantastic. They also seemed like good guys. The name Geddy Lee sounds like it would come from my family tree that has big branches in the NC mountains.Damnit. I liked the Rush song.
Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been too hard on Rush?
In the Rush documentary I saw, Lee said he sang the way he did because Alex Lifeson and original drummer John Rutsey played so loud and otherwise no one would be able to hear him.Back in the '70s, I had a couple of friends who were die-hard Rush fans. I saw them fight people who would criticize the band. So, I would poke at them sometimes but they knew it was tongue-in-cheek coming from me (they'd still get steamed, though). I like Rush and, while I don't think I'd want to marathon 7 hours of Lee singing, the voice doesn't bother me. They learned how to write to his voice and the musicianship is fantastic, so the lyrics (the other biggest complaint about the band) don't get in the way for me (I can't understand most of them anyway).Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been to hard on Rush?
It worked, right? They sold a bazillion records and have locked-in fans to this day.In the Rush documentary I saw, Lee said he sang the way he did because Alex Lifeson and original drummer John Rutsey played so loud and otherwise no one would be able to hear him.Back in the '70s, I had a couple of friends who were die-hard Rush fans. I saw them fight people who would criticize the band. So, I would poke at them sometimes but they knew it was tongue-in-cheek coming from me (they'd still get steamed, though). I like Rush and, while I don't think I'd want to marathon 7 hours of Lee singing, the voice doesn't bother me. They learned how to write to his voice and the musicianship is fantastic, so the lyrics (the other biggest complaint about the band) don't get in the way for me (I can't understand most of them anyway).Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been to hard on Rush?
Reminds me of my favorite band intro ever, from a guy I think I saw in an Eat-Off video.Presumably the same person who they claimed "Wanted the best and you've got it. The hottest band in the world! KISS!" right before they broke into Detroit Rock City on Kiss Alive II.
Reminds me of my favorite band intro ever, from a guy I think I saw in an Eat-Off video.
Classic feel, love it
The killers were one of my favorite deep dives so far, some would call them over hyped but they’re fun.JMLs secret identity – songs in D#Minor, the saddest key of all
Smile Like You Mean It (Spotify) - The Killers
Cleaning Time!
Maybe a generic band but most of their stuff is fun to listen to at the beach or pool. Not a song I expected to hear at a funeral but I dig.
Yep, though, as has been mentioned in other threads, their first three records didn't sell that well and their label said they were going to drop them if their fourth record also sold poorly. They decided to make the record they always wanted to make, figuring that if it failed, at least they went out on their own terms. That record was 2112 and after a few months it had outsold their first three records combined.It worked, right? They sold a bazillion records and have locked-in fans to this day.In the Rush documentary I saw, Lee said he sang the way he did because Alex Lifeson and original drummer John Rutsey played so loud and otherwise no one would be able to hear him.Back in the '70s, I had a couple of friends who were die-hard Rush fans. I saw them fight people who would criticize the band. So, I would poke at them sometimes but they knew it was tongue-in-cheek coming from me (they'd still get steamed, though). I like Rush and, while I don't think I'd want to marathon 7 hours of Lee singing, the voice doesn't bother me. They learned how to write to his voice and the musicianship is fantastic, so the lyrics (the other biggest complaint about the band) don't get in the way for me (I can't understand most of them anyway).Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been to hard on Rush?
One of the friends I mentioned above thought Rush "sold out" (a term I despise and will argue to the death with anyone who uses it for their favorite artist) with 2112. "Subdivisions" damned near sent him off of the deep end, but he'd still fight anyone who denigrated RushYep, though, as has been mentioned in other threads, their first three records didn't sell that well and their label said they were going to drop them if their fourth record also sold poorly. They decided to make the record they always wanted to make, figuring that if it failed, at least they went out on their own terms. That record was 2112 and after a few months it had outsold their first three records combined.It worked, right? They sold a bazillion records and have locked-in fans to this day.In the Rush documentary I saw, Lee said he sang the way he did because Alex Lifeson and original drummer John Rutsey played so loud and otherwise no one would be able to hear him.Back in the '70s, I had a couple of friends who were die-hard Rush fans. I saw them fight people who would criticize the band. So, I would poke at them sometimes but they knew it was tongue-in-cheek coming from me (they'd still get steamed, though). I like Rush and, while I don't think I'd want to marathon 7 hours of Lee singing, the voice doesn't bother me. They learned how to write to his voice and the musicianship is fantastic, so the lyrics (the other biggest complaint about the band) don't get in the way for me (I can't understand most of them anyway).Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been to hard on Rush?
Whew,all caught up!
I will say that Lee's vocal on the #20 playlist version of Red Barchetta, from a live show very late in their career, is rough. The Exit Stage Left version is a better example of what he was capable of on that song.One of the friends I mentioned above thought Rush "sold out" (a term I despise and will argue to the death with anyone who uses it for their favorite artist) with 2112. "Subdivisions" damned near sent him off of the deep end, but he'd still fight anyone who denigrated RushYep, though, as has been mentioned in other threads, their first three records didn't sell that well and their label said they were going to drop them if their fourth record also sold poorly. They decided to make the record they always wanted to make, figuring that if it failed, at least they went out on their own terms. That record was 2112 and after a few months it had outsold their first three records combined.It worked, right? They sold a bazillion records and have locked-in fans to this day.In the Rush documentary I saw, Lee said he sang the way he did because Alex Lifeson and original drummer John Rutsey played so loud and otherwise no one would be able to hear him.Back in the '70s, I had a couple of friends who were die-hard Rush fans. I saw them fight people who would criticize the band. So, I would poke at them sometimes but they knew it was tongue-in-cheek coming from me (they'd still get steamed, though). I like Rush and, while I don't think I'd want to marathon 7 hours of Lee singing, the voice doesn't bother me. They learned how to write to his voice and the musicianship is fantastic, so the lyrics (the other biggest complaint about the band) don't get in the way for me (I can't understand most of them anyway).Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been to hard on Rush?
I think what Lee learned how to do was to synch his voice to his bass/keys - I'd say "to the rhythm" but Peart was off overplaying in his own world. Geddy was doing a lot of Bo Diddley stuff between his vocal and his instruments. "The opening to "Tom Sawyer" is one of many examples of this.
I didn't highlight it as a known and liked song for that reason.I will say that Lee's vocal on the #20 playlist version of Red Barchetta, from a live show very late in their career, is rough. The Exit Stage Left version is a better example of what he was capable of on that song.One of the friends I mentioned above thought Rush "sold out" (a term I despise and will argue to the death with anyone who uses it for their favorite artist) with 2112. "Subdivisions" damned near sent him off of the deep end, but he'd still fight anyone who denigrated RushYep, though, as has been mentioned in other threads, their first three records didn't sell that well and their label said they were going to drop them if their fourth record also sold poorly. They decided to make the record they always wanted to make, figuring that if it failed, at least they went out on their own terms. That record was 2112 and after a few months it had outsold their first three records combined.It worked, right? They sold a bazillion records and have locked-in fans to this day.In the Rush documentary I saw, Lee said he sang the way he did because Alex Lifeson and original drummer John Rutsey played so loud and otherwise no one would be able to hear him.Back in the '70s, I had a couple of friends who were die-hard Rush fans. I saw them fight people who would criticize the band. So, I would poke at them sometimes but they knew it was tongue-in-cheek coming from me (they'd still get steamed, though). I like Rush and, while I don't think I'd want to marathon 7 hours of Lee singing, the voice doesn't bother me. They learned how to write to his voice and the musicianship is fantastic, so the lyrics (the other biggest complaint about the band) don't get in the way for me (I can't understand most of them anyway).Mistook Geddy for Steve Perry. Thought someone pulled out an early Journey. Hmm, one of the most criticized rock vocalists sounds like one of the most talented? Have we been to hard on Rush?
I think what Lee learned how to do was to synch his voice to his bass/keys - I'd say "to the rhythm" but Peart was off overplaying in his own world. Geddy was doing a lot of Bo Diddley stuff between his vocal and his instruments. "The opening to "Tom Sawyer" is one of many examples of this.
We should also acknowledge that the personnel lineup on "Mockingbird" is a who's-who of '70s-ness:They were married to each other at the time.jwb – songs that sound great on a decent 2-channel system
Mockingbird – Carly Simon and James Taylor
Different songs are here for different reasons. Although it uses the speakers and placement of sound just fine, this one isn't a classic audiophile recording by any stretch. But vocalists are a big part of the listening experience, and here are two of the 70's best having a heck of a time singing this one (and I believe they were married to each other at the time). You can just hear the fun they are having, and they both sound great (especially Carly). They are next to each other in the mix, but they switch front and back positions for the two verses, which is pretty cool. Pretty solid sax going on here too.
My parents (pre-divorce) didn't have very many non-classical records in their collection, but they had quite a few Carly Simon records, and we especially enjoyed this track.
Obligatory anecdote from wikkid that he dropped into my 1971 countdown:
never owned a Simon record - too anticeptic, though her songs work immensely well in movies - but had the rare pleasure to watch the Simon Sisters and Taylor Brothers sing together many times @ JT's house (where i believe Miss Simon still lives) on Gay Head, Martha's Vineyard. Taylor had a house on top of a bluff and his brothers Liv & Alex had houses below the main one and it seemed an eternal party bounced between the three dwellings. I had a ladyfriend who was the Vineyard's unofficial drug courier and was her body man for several visits (once an emergency call on a helicopter - dont think my gonads have fully descended from that experience 46 yrs later) to the island. three things i most remember are the the Taylors & Simons (Carly started out in a duet with her sister) singing all together on several occasions, the invasion of the SNL people upon that party scene and, mostly, that Carly is one of those beautiful people who is actually more beautiful in person hanging out than she is when all dooded up. almost impossible to take one's eyes off her (Madonna was like that, too, in her Mudd Club days).48. Anticipation -- Carly Simon (from Anticipation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BELWbkyOVPQ
My parents had most of Simon's '70s albums, and most of their other records were classical, so I had more exposure to her music in that decade than that of most artists. There will be another reflection of this later.
She became a star in 1971, which saw the release of her first two albums that yielded two massive hit singles. That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be from her debut album, which appeared on Tim's list, was one. This, the title track of her second album, was the other.
You're So Vain is (rightly) considered her best and signature song these days, but in the '70s, this song may have been even more ubiquitous, thanks especially to its appearance in Heinz ketchup commercials which tried to turn the difficulty of the old ketchup bottles into a positive.
Anticipation is as good an example as anything to summarize Simon's appeal -- emotional but literate lyrics backed with superb melodies and arrangements.
....Mockingbird is an actual song, not just some Jim Carrey shtick in Dumb and Dumber.Gary is part of the Chicago Metropolitan Statistical Area, so it kinda qualifies, but most people don't really think of it as "Chicagoland." It's its own thing. Close enough for a 3, but not more than that.
Today I learned . . .
But "ing" isn't really a word....Mockingbird is an actual song, not just some Jim Carrey shtick in Dumb and Dumber.Gary is part of the Chicago Metropolitan Statistical Area, so it kinda qualifies, but most people don't really think of it as "Chicagoland." It's its own thing. Close enough for a 3, but not more than that.
Today I learned . . .
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Mock! Yeah!But "ing" isn't really a word....Mockingbird is an actual song, not just some Jim Carrey shtick in Dumb and Dumber.Gary is part of the Chicago Metropolitan Statistical Area, so it kinda qualifies, but most people don't really think of it as "Chicagoland." It's its own thing. Close enough for a 3, but not more than that.
Today I learned . . .
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We should also acknowledge that the personnel lineup on "Mockingbird" is a who's-who of '70s-ness:They were married to each other at the time.jwb – songs that sound great on a decent 2-channel system
Mockingbird – Carly Simon and James Taylor
Different songs are here for different reasons. Although it uses the speakers and placement of sound just fine, this one isn't a classic audiophile recording by any stretch. But vocalists are a big part of the listening experience, and here are two of the 70's best having a heck of a time singing this one (and I believe they were married to each other at the time). You can just hear the fun they are having, and they both sound great (especially Carly). They are next to each other in the mix, but they switch front and back positions for the two verses, which is pretty cool. Pretty solid sax going on here too.
My parents (pre-divorce) didn't have very many non-classical records in their collection, but they had quite a few Carly Simon records, and we especially enjoyed this track.
Obligatory anecdote from wikkid that he dropped into my 1971 countdown:
never owned a Simon record - too anticeptic, though her songs work immensely well in movies - but had the rare pleasure to watch the Simon Sisters and Taylor Brothers sing together many times @ JT's house (where i believe Miss Simon still lives) on Gay Head, Martha's Vineyard. Taylor had a house on top of a bluff and his brothers Liv & Alex had houses below the main one and it seemed an eternal party bounced between the three dwellings. I had a ladyfriend who was the Vineyard's unofficial drug courier and was her body man for several visits (once an emergency call on a helicopter - dont think my gonads have fully descended from that experience 46 yrs later) to the island. three things i most remember are the the Taylors & Simons (Carly started out in a duet with her sister) singing all together on several occasions, the invasion of the SNL people upon that party scene and, mostly, that Carly is one of those beautiful people who is actually more beautiful in person hanging out than she is when all dooded up. almost impossible to take one's eyes off her (Madonna was like that, too, in her Mudd Club days).48. Anticipation -- Carly Simon (from Anticipation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BELWbkyOVPQ
My parents had most of Simon's '70s albums, and most of their other records were classical, so I had more exposure to her music in that decade than that of most artists. There will be another reflection of this later.
She became a star in 1971, which saw the release of her first two albums that yielded two massive hit singles. That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be from her debut album, which appeared on Tim's list, was one. This, the title track of her second album, was the other.
You're So Vain is (rightly) considered her best and signature song these days, but in the '70s, this song may have been even more ubiquitous, thanks especially to its appearance in Heinz ketchup commercials which tried to turn the difficulty of the old ketchup bottles into a positive.
Anticipation is as good an example as anything to summarize Simon's appeal -- emotional but literate lyrics backed with superb melodies and arrangements.
Vocals -- Carly Simon and James Taylor
Guitar -- Robbie Robertson
Bass -- Klaus Voorman
Drums -- Jim Keltner
Piano and Organ -- Dr. John
Saxophone -- Michael Brecker and Bobby Keys
"Hey, wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?? "Mock! Yeah!But "ing" isn't really a word....Mockingbird is an actual song, not just some Jim Carrey shtick in Dumb and Dumber.Gary is part of the Chicago Metropolitan Statistical Area, so it kinda qualifies, but most people don't really think of it as "Chicagoland." It's its own thing. Close enough for a 3, but not more than that.
Today I learned . . .
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Ing! Yeah!
Bird! Yeah!
El Floppo – Mallet Rock
The Tallest Man, the Broadest Shoulders Part I: The Great Frontier Part II: Come to Me Only With Playthings Now - Sufjan Stevens
Theme: 31 Songs from 31 Manchester(ish) Artists
Song: A Song from Under the Floorboards
Band: Magazine
From: Manchester, but it's complicated*
I am angry, I am ill and I'm as ugly as sin
My irritability keeps me alive and kicking
I identify way too much with the opening lyrics (except the ugly as sin part, hopefully). In reality, it's cribbed from Dostoevsky's Notes From The Underground. ...Floorboards is the last track on the last great Magazine record, The Correct Use of Soap. Magazine co-founder/guitarist John McGeoch left the band shortly after its release to join Siouxsie and the Banshees, and despite putting out one more album the following year, that was pretty much that, at least until they reunited in 2011. Those live shows were great but the magic just wasn't there for me on the soon-to-follow reunion record.
Morrissey apparently loves ....Floorboards too, as he covers the song frequently.
* Co-founder Howard DeVoto was born in floppo's favorite town (Scunthorpe) but grew up in Leeds. While in university in Bolton, Greater Manchester, he met Pete Shelley and they formed the Buzzcocks. The bands first real show was opening for the Sex Pistols at Lesser Free Trade Hall in Manchester proper in July 1976. DeVoto left The Buzzcocks less than a year later, went back to university, then formed Magazine with McGeough, who was Scottish but went to art school in Manchester. So for MAD purposes, this falls under what I call the REM/Athens exception.
didn't know this tune (or didn't remember it)... loooove it.Theme: 31 Songs from 31 Manchester(ish) Artists
Song: A Song from Under the Floorboards
Band: Magazine
From: Manchester, but it's complicated*
I am angry, I am ill and I'm as ugly as sin
My irritability keeps me alive and kicking
I identify way too much with the opening lyrics (except the ugly as sin part, hopefully). In reality, it's cribbed from Dostoevsky's Notes From The Underground. ...Floorboards is the last track on the last great Magazine record, The Correct Use of Soap. Magazine co-founder/guitarist John McGeoch left the band shortly after its release to join Siouxsie and the Banshees, and despite putting out one more album the following year, that was pretty much that, at least until they reunited in 2011. Those live shows were great but the magic just wasn't there for me on the soon-to-follow reunion record.
Morrissey apparently loves ....Floorboards too, as he covers the song frequently.
* Co-founder Howard DeVoto was born in floppo's favorite town (Scunthorpe) but grew up in Leeds. While in university in Bolton, Greater Manchester, he met Pete Shelley and they formed the Buzzcocks. The bands first real show was opening for the Sex Pistols at Lesser Free Trade Hall in Manchester proper in July 1976. DeVoto left The Buzzcocks less than a year later, went back to university, then formed Magazine with McGeough, who was Scottish but went to art school in Manchester. So for MAD purposes, this falls under what I call the REM/Athens exception.
Yeah.But "ing" isn't really a word....Mockingbird is an actual song, not just some Jim Carrey shtick in Dumb and Dumber.Gary is part of the Chicago Metropolitan Statistical Area, so it kinda qualifies, but most people don't really think of it as "Chicagoland." It's its own thing. Close enough for a 3, but not more than that.
Today I learned . . .
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I do have a lot of useless knowledge in my head from poring through "rock encyclopedias" and stuff like that in my youth, but in this case, I was curious about who played sax so I looked up the album credits on Wikipedia and saw the whole lineup wasWe should also acknowledge that the personnel lineup on "Mockingbird" is a who's-who of '70s-ness:They were married to each other at the time.jwb – songs that sound great on a decent 2-channel system
Mockingbird – Carly Simon and James Taylor
Different songs are here for different reasons. Although it uses the speakers and placement of sound just fine, this one isn't a classic audiophile recording by any stretch. But vocalists are a big part of the listening experience, and here are two of the 70's best having a heck of a time singing this one (and I believe they were married to each other at the time). You can just hear the fun they are having, and they both sound great (especially Carly). They are next to each other in the mix, but they switch front and back positions for the two verses, which is pretty cool. Pretty solid sax going on here too.
My parents (pre-divorce) didn't have very many non-classical records in their collection, but they had quite a few Carly Simon records, and we especially enjoyed this track.
Obligatory anecdote from wikkid that he dropped into my 1971 countdown:
never owned a Simon record - too anticeptic, though her songs work immensely well in movies - but had the rare pleasure to watch the Simon Sisters and Taylor Brothers sing together many times @ JT's house (where i believe Miss Simon still lives) on Gay Head, Martha's Vineyard. Taylor had a house on top of a bluff and his brothers Liv & Alex had houses below the main one and it seemed an eternal party bounced between the three dwellings. I had a ladyfriend who was the Vineyard's unofficial drug courier and was her body man for several visits (once an emergency call on a helicopter - dont think my gonads have fully descended from that experience 46 yrs later) to the island. three things i most remember are the the Taylors & Simons (Carly started out in a duet with her sister) singing all together on several occasions, the invasion of the SNL people upon that party scene and, mostly, that Carly is one of those beautiful people who is actually more beautiful in person hanging out than she is when all dooded up. almost impossible to take one's eyes off her (Madonna was like that, too, in her Mudd Club days).48. Anticipation -- Carly Simon (from Anticipation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BELWbkyOVPQ
My parents had most of Simon's '70s albums, and most of their other records were classical, so I had more exposure to her music in that decade than that of most artists. There will be another reflection of this later.
She became a star in 1971, which saw the release of her first two albums that yielded two massive hit singles. That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be from her debut album, which appeared on Tim's list, was one. This, the title track of her second album, was the other.
You're So Vain is (rightly) considered her best and signature song these days, but in the '70s, this song may have been even more ubiquitous, thanks especially to its appearance in Heinz ketchup commercials which tried to turn the difficulty of the old ketchup bottles into a positive.
Anticipation is as good an example as anything to summarize Simon's appeal -- emotional but literate lyrics backed with superb melodies and arrangements.
Vocals -- Carly Simon and James Taylor
Guitar -- Robbie Robertson
Bass -- Klaus Voorman
Drums -- Jim Keltner
Piano and Organ -- Dr. John
Saxophone -- Michael Brecker and Bobby Keys
We have similar musical taste, and I always though I was knowledgeable, but man, you know everything. I have always appreciated the little tidbits you've added to my picks/posts in these threads.
Should we tell him that Carly and James' version is a cover?....Mockingbird is an actual song, not just some Jim Carrey shtick in Dumb and Dumber.Gary is part of the Chicago Metropolitan Statistical Area, so it kinda qualifies, but most people don't really think of it as "Chicagoland." It's its own thing. Close enough for a 3, but not more than that.
Today I learned . . .
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Theme: 31 Songs from 31 Manchester(ish) Artists
Song: A Song from Under the Floorboards
Band: Magazine
From: Manchester, but it's complicated*
this album also made me think of K4s theme... hopefully no spoilers.
I guess all things are a go.Theme: 31 Songs from 31 Manchester(ish) Artists
Song: A Song from Under the Floorboards
Band: Magazine
From: Manchester, but it's complicated*
Dammit! This was my other "WOW" moment from that playlist, and I forgot to mention it.
this album also made me think of K4s theme... hopefully no spoilers.
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