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Mike Goodson CAR RB (2 Viewers)
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Al Czervik
Footballguy
Gonna pick up Mike Goodson and Bill Todman. 
Gopher State
Footballguy
Lets look at the facts, not personal views:
The Car o-line is 26th in the NFL when it comes to rushing TWENTY SIX
Goodson is average is 3.1 yards per carry
Goodson was out rushed by Sutton who is averaging 5.9 yards per carry, hmmmmmmmm who do you think is the sleeper this week 3.1 vs 5.9, I go with Sutton, who has a burst that Goodson wish he had.
OP your reaching for the stars on this call, but if your in a 30 team league it could be a decent call
The Car o-line is 26th in the NFL when it comes to rushing TWENTY SIX
Goodson is average is 3.1 yards per carry
Goodson was out rushed by Sutton who is averaging 5.9 yards per carry, hmmmmmmmm who do you think is the sleeper this week 3.1 vs 5.9, I go with Sutton, who has a burst that Goodson wish he had.
OP your reaching for the stars on this call, but if your in a 30 team league it could be a decent call
Podcast
Footballguy
Sutton's hurt.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Goodson's value is not as a rusher, it's as a receiver. In a PPR league, he's a viable 'what the heck' bye week fill in at a Flex spot. If you're in a PPR/Returns league he'd be a bit more viable(if he's still returning kicks this week)--Week1: 3 catches on 5 targets for 31 yards. No rushes. 117 KR yards. 9points.Week2: 2 catches on 3 targets for 33 yards. 5 rushes for 20 yards. 75 KR yards. 9.18 points Week3: 4 catches on 8 targets for 47 yards. 0 rush attempts. 68 KR yards. 10.40 pointsWeek4: 0 catches. 0 targets. 1 rush attempt for 0 yards. 142 KR yards. 3.55 pointsWeek5: 0 catche. 0 targets. 0 rush attempts. 62 KR yards. 1.55 pointsWeek6: ByeWeek7: 1 catch on 2 targets for -5 yards. 0 rush attempts. 84 KR yards. 2.60 pointsWeek8: 4 catches on 5 targets for 16 yards. 1 rush attempt for 1 yard. 107 KR yards. 8.38 pointsWeek9: 3 catches on 4 targets for 18 yards. 9 rush attempts for 28 yards. 31 KR yards. 8.48 pointsNothing world beater about him, but in a PPR league he's put up low end Flex numbers in 5 out of the 8 weeks they've played, in very limited touches. Even if he totally sucks running the ball this week, if he gets 10-12 carries for 30-40 yards and gets another 30 on 3 or 4 catches, that's totally useful as a PPR Flex for a team having bye issues. If he manages to find the endzone with those numbers, that's RB2 territory. I don't think anyone here is claiming this guy is going to carry anyone to a fantasy championship. If you're in a PPR, he's worth a pickup for this week. If you're in a TD only league, he's probably not even a blip on your radar, but to espouse he's only viable in '30 team leagues' is flawed.
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harryhood
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Panthers RB Tyrell Sutton was carted off the field with an ankle injury during the third quarter of Sunday's game against the Saints.Analysis: Sutton was getting extra reps with Jonathan Stewart (head) sidelined and DeAngelo Williams (foot) inactive. He is questionable to return. Mike Goodson will handle all the running back reps now.
footballnerd
Footballguy
fixed!
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Dr. Awesome
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I totally understand in larger leagues sometimes you have to start guys like this. But if you can at all avoid it I'd look elsewhere. Even when DeAngelo was in there and looking good, Fox wasn't loading him up with carries. I'm not sure how many touches this kid will get, or even if he'll do anything with the ones he does get.
Apparently my league is too deep (16 team, IDP) because this guy has been a regular starter for me (return yards). He has shown value in standard PPR leagues but I would be real hesitant to start him this week outside of that, The Panthers are not going to run the ball, they have a horrific offense and they have never let him carry the ball much at all. Generally he'll come in on 3rd down, pick up a few snaps there and often he'll line up at receiver. Maybe this is the chance he's been waiting for behind 2 first rounders to run the ball but I need more evidence.
He's my lead back again this week on that team.
:Ryan Matthews owner:
He's my lead back again this week on that team.
:Ryan Matthews owner:
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He's in my flex with jennings on a bye. It is either him, gaffney, or spiller (non-ppr). In my ppr, i have him in over Burleson. Carolina might stink at running, but tampa stinks at defending the run so we got a neutral match up with, presently, the only back getting touches = worth a shot.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
In my PPR league he's already averaging more points than Stewart (6.5 vs. 4.5).
harryhood
Footballguy
-ppr -green QB-check downs-weak rush D-100 yards rushing against TB earlier this year(stewart + williams)- 85 total yards and 5 receptions is great from a flex spot
This is the same defense that gave Chris Ivory 159 yards on 15 carries. Different games, different teams, different scenarios, and the Panthers are a much worse team/OL than the Saints but talent wise? I doubt Goodson can be that much worse than Chris Ivory who has failed to put up a meaningful game since that one. Especially since he can receive balls too and it gives him a higher floor. TB has been giving up huge games to no name RBs since 2008 and I think it was Carolina that opened that door. After that point, every team ran over them. Even Julius Jones did decent against them with the Seahawks when he had enough carries. Really, that's all it comes down to, opportunity vs a poor defense. As a guy who can catch and run with an offense with literally nothing else, he really should get opportunity. You can expect poor yardage per carries but if he gets 20+ touches he should be in for a decent day. If you can argue that he will get less then he's a poor play but it's worth a gamble. No one's week should hinge on his success or failure or you got even bigger problems to worry about so even if he gets 5 points, people shouldn't feel too disappointed. I personally think this is one of the funnest parts of fantasy football when your opponent mocks you for starting him and then watches him defy the odds to slaughter his team. That alone makes it worth it for me, but I play fantasy for fun as well as money.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I agree. For owners that are hurting at the RB2 spot, Goodson is not only worth a gamble, he may be as good as it gets this week compared to the other options. The best you can hope for is that your RB1 plays above average and Goodson gets the opportunity to have a decent day.
Dought Man
Footballguy
He's probably looking at about 45 yards rushing and 25 receiving. I guess you just roll with him if you are desperate and hope Carolina can somehow get into the redzone. Maybe he gets a lucky TD. I have a hard time believing any defense will respect the passing game. 8-9 in the box all day.
Clifford
Footballguy
No one on that team is a lock for anything. In case you haven't noticed Carolina has been completely awful at all phases of the offense, and most of the defense, all year. He's worth a what the heck flex but is not a lock for anything more than 8 carries.There is a very good chance that Carolina will get down early, abandon the run like they have all year, and spend the majority of the game letting Clausen drill Bucs defenders in the numbers. This has happened already multiple times this year, regardless of who their running back is. There is absolutely no reason to think that Goodson improves their already pathetically awful rushing attack at all.That being said, with McFadden on bye I am starting him and hoping for something like 12 for 34, 3 for 8 and maybe a TD.Lock for 120 yards is absolutely laughable.Laugh, MGOOD is a lock for 120 total yards on the Bucs mediocore run D.Exactly the reasons I picked up the Buc's DST this week
DLR
Footballguy
I grabbed him as an emergency option before someone else swooped him up in my league.
I have Foster/Mcfadden/Bush/Torrain/Lynch as my RB's. No McFadden or Bush for me this week due to bye and Torain and Lynch both have issues right now. Torain is coming off a hamstring injury which he hasn't totaled healed from yet (from what it sounds like) and is playing Monday night so is a significant risk for me to plug in as my starter Sunday morning with no clue about who is and isn't active. Lynch is terrible, dealing with a quad injury, but has a decent match up against ARI. With all those things considered, as bad as Carolina is, and how lackluster their run game has been even with tier studs in, I am happy that I woke up and found a potential 3rd option on the WW this morning. That is what Goodson is good for right now. The next best options if I couldn't start Lynch or Torain that are available are Buckhalter and Hightower.
If he gets the majority of the carries and is also the passing down back then getting 4-8 points with the possibility (albeit unlikely) of a TD is all I can ask for.
I have Foster/Mcfadden/Bush/Torrain/Lynch as my RB's. No McFadden or Bush for me this week due to bye and Torain and Lynch both have issues right now. Torain is coming off a hamstring injury which he hasn't totaled healed from yet (from what it sounds like) and is playing Monday night so is a significant risk for me to plug in as my starter Sunday morning with no clue about who is and isn't active. Lynch is terrible, dealing with a quad injury, but has a decent match up against ARI. With all those things considered, as bad as Carolina is, and how lackluster their run game has been even with tier studs in, I am happy that I woke up and found a potential 3rd option on the WW this morning. That is what Goodson is good for right now. The next best options if I couldn't start Lynch or Torain that are available are Buckhalter and Hightower.
If he gets the majority of the carries and is also the passing down back then getting 4-8 points with the possibility (albeit unlikely) of a TD is all I can ask for.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Panthers RB Mike Goodson vs. Bucs defensive front seven. This is Goodson's chance to shine. He makes his first start, and the kid can play. He just hasn't had many chances. He has the potential to break long runs.Mike Goodson starts at running back. He still has big-play potential even though he's been buried on Carolina's depth chart for the last couple of seasons.
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omally
Footballguy
When the Panthers have abandoned the run, do you know who has been in playing while they are playing catchup? Mike Goodson. He is a good receiving option, so the Panthers being down in the game isn't a reason to knock Goodson down from getting some stats.
kingsofromance
Footballguy
Clifford
Footballguy
hope you are right, thanks for the info
Gonna pick up Mike Goodson and Bill Todman.
Kuz
Footballguy
I would start Torain over him for sure if he plays. But since it's a Monday night game it may be a tough decision to make. Is Torain playing??I have Torain (hammy) and Mathews so I am going to roll the dice with him.TwinTurbo said:getting a starting RB even on a team that isn't producing this year is worth a shot. I have been basically getting a zero out of Felix Jones all year so I'm rolling the dice on this guy.
two_dollars
Footballguy
I would expect 15 carries for 45 yards, 2 catches for 10 yards, zero td's.
Blount will put up 150 and 2 though. TB will win time of possession 40 minutes to 20.
Blount will put up 150 and 2 though. TB will win time of possession 40 minutes to 20.
footballnerd
Footballguy
not getting it done through receptions, but having a decent day
wonder if he's worth a hold for FFL playoffs if CAR decides to call it a year
wonder if he's worth a hold for FFL playoffs if CAR decides to call it a year
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GetmethereForte
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My boy is running at a 5.1 yard clip, get him the ball in this firth QTR!
Jagerbomber
Footballguy
Too bad about the fumble but otherwise having a pretty solid outing.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
A lot of people looking pretty stupid in this thread now.
Instinctive
Footballguy
When he had 15 carries, he was at 101 yards iirc...
GetmethereForte
Footballguy
Man I dont care, ill take the points hes giving and if he gets a td Ill be excited If not, Who else was I going to start, John Kuhn? Im banged up right now and Jackson is on bye.
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Niether is a lock to be back so Goodson could start again. But its Baltimore I think so a tough match up.
Jonathan Stewart, RB, Carolina Panthers Monday 11/15, 12:08 PM CT
Head coach John Fox did not have an update on Jonathan Stewart's health on Monday, according to the Gaston Gazette.
Our View: Stewart has missed most of the past two games after suffering a concussion in Week 9 against the Saints. His status for Week 11 remains in question.
DeAngelo Williams, RB, Carolina Panthers Monday 11/15, 12:07 PM CT
Head coach John Fox did not have an update on DeAngelo Williams on Monday, according to the Gaston Gazette.
Our View: Williams hasn't practiced since his Week 7 injury and although he said last week he hoped to return in Week 11 his status is still in question.
Jonathan Stewart, RB, Carolina Panthers Monday 11/15, 12:08 PM CT
Head coach John Fox did not have an update on Jonathan Stewart's health on Monday, according to the Gaston Gazette.
Our View: Stewart has missed most of the past two games after suffering a concussion in Week 9 against the Saints. His status for Week 11 remains in question.
DeAngelo Williams, RB, Carolina Panthers Monday 11/15, 12:07 PM CT
Head coach John Fox did not have an update on DeAngelo Williams on Monday, according to the Gaston Gazette.
Our View: Williams hasn't practiced since his Week 7 injury and although he said last week he hoped to return in Week 11 his status is still in question.
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FavreCo
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I'd sure like to see Deangelo Williams play in a game as much as this guy did. Exactly what I suspected. Give a primary ballcarrier the majority of carries and he will perform better than dicking around with 50000 formations. Can we just once see DeAngelo in the game for a whole series? He is the best RB they have.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
Keep in mind even if he starts again, this was Tampa Bay they played this week.
GetmethereForte
Footballguy
Any updates?, if he does start again, maybe hell have better luck getting in the endzone this week and could be a decent start if you have nothing better.
RamMan
Footballguy
It's official....DWill has been placed on IR. With Stewart still not practicing and Sutton's health cloudy, is there anything to be excited about with Goodson going forward? He did break 100 yrds rushing last week (albeit against a porous TB D), but he seems to have good quickness, burst, and is active in the passing game. What are the chances he becomes a reliable low-end RB#2/high-end RB#3 going forward? This backfield seems as murkey as the WAS backfield right now. Our league has very limited roster space, I've got Goodson, and Stewart is sitting on our WW. Just trying to read the tea leaves a little here and wondering if I should make room for Stewart or will both of these guys be unstartable going forward?
Clifford
Footballguy
Seems clear that if Stewart stays out Goodson will be a serviceable RB. If Stewart gets back CAR goes back to splitting carries and both become useless. Never heard of a concussion causing anyone to miss more than a couple of weeks so I doubt the CAR backfield is a gold mine.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Disagree Fox has shown in the past he always goes with the guy with more experience. It may be a split but more like 15-10 in favour of J-STEW.
az_prof
Footballguy
He is worth owning, but since you asked, I think the odds of him being a reliable lowend RB2 are not good. First, the team is not that good and the OL is horrible. Second, although he had a nice outing against a bad defense, clearly the team will give Stewart every chance to seize the job. Will Stewart stay healthy? Who knows? Which is why Goodson is worth keeping and could pay off. But I don't think there is a good chance of it to be honest.
If Stewart is back most likely next week and he will probally start if healthy and they play baltimore this week. Goodson has some value but not much. Hes on a really bad team. bad OL. No real passing game so teams stack the box. If somehow stewart is out past this week then he would hold some flex low end Rb Value and hes is a starter so he has some value.
