Millennials: We Suck and We're Sorry (1 Viewer)

[mr roboto]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment. Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Excellent job validating my post.

 

[Apple Jack]

Boomers raised millenials?

 

[mr roboto]

Good to see that not one single generation has moved past blaming others for their shortcomings.

This post? Meaningless platitude. The Millennials will have time to be judged on their merits. But it's easier to sum up generations that have, oh I don't know, 15-30 years longer of a track record. And if you think previous generations don't impact subsequent generations.

 

[humpback]

Millenials are innovators. Just like every generation we have a lot of people like MCGH, but there are also a ton of smart people changing how things are done and creating new technologies. You go into any tech company office and you'll find a bunch of hard-working and bright Millenials.

Yes there are a lot of self-entitled whiny #####es in my generation (whom I dislike as much as anyone else), but they are also a product of the environment they were raised, so this responsibility needs to be shared.

So the blame for the self-entitled whiny #####es needs to be shared, but the credit for the hard-working innovators doesn't? Typical Millennial....

 

[mr roboto]

Boomers raised millenials?

Gen X didn't.

 

[Peyton Marino]

This is what happens when you put kids in time out instead of whipping their ###. Bunch of smart ### little titty babies.

Damn dude

 

[mr roboto]

Boomers raised millenials?

Gen X didn't.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nextavenue/2014/06/02/boomers-loveloathe-relationship-with-millennials/

 

[Hooper31]

Believing that "generations" exist is like putting faith in astrology IMO. Setting up arbitray groups of people so you can say one is better than the other is folly.

 

[mr roboto]

Believing that "generations" exist is like putting faith in astrology IMO. Setting up arbitray groups of people so you can say one is better than the other is folly.

I know what you think you are saying, but it's not folly. Sure, at the individual level, generational analysis is fairly useless and probably discriminatory. But sociologically, it's very appropriate to look at cohorts and note characteristics. You can't deny that the Boomers for example display traits that are very different from the Greatest Generation. The Greatest Gen was impacted by Depression and WW2.If you meet a 57 year old and a 37 year old (Boomer and Gen X) you instinctively know there will be differences apart from mere age.

 

[Vike Me]

Believing that "generations" exist is like putting faith in astrology IMO. Setting up arbitray groups of people so you can say one is better than the other is folly.

Your face is a folly.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Eminence

MC Gas Bag

Woz

/millennials

Congrats guys, you're killing it.

Yeah but Uni and I are cool, right? (PLEASE TELL ME I'M COOL AND GIVE ME POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT #MILLENNIAL)

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Boomers raised millenials?

Dogs and cats, living together.

 

[cstu]

Boomers raised millenials?

Gen X didn't.

If I had kid a when I was 21 then he/she would be 21 this year.

 

[Henry Ford]

Boomers raised millenials?

Pretty sure Gen X wasn't having lots of kids in 1983.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

 

[msommer]

Some of those generations were awfully short. and apparently if you are born 91-94 you don't even have one, whereas 78-85 you can choose between two...

 

[cstu]

Millenials are innovators. Just like every generation we have a lot of people like MCGH, but there are also a ton of smart people changing how things are done and creating new technologies. You go into any tech company office and you'll find a bunch of hard-working and bright Millenials.

Yes there are a lot of self-entitled whiny #####es in my generation (whom I dislike as much as anyone else), but they are also a product of the environment they were raised, so this responsibility needs to be shared.

Yep. I'd say "true" on about 99% of that post right there.

As a Gen-Xer, I also agree with what some people have written about my generation too. The boomers ####ed a lot of stuff up. Chasing materialism and other self-interest. Us Gen-Xers grew up with our parents' materialism and selfishness in broken homes, while contrasting that to the markedly different lives we witnessed in our grandparents. It made us cynical, sharp-witted, smarmy ###holes in a lot of ways. But for many of us, it also taught us to get our balance sheets in order, so we had time/flexibility to make a positive difference in the world.

The Millenials I know? They want to make their positive difference, but they seem to not give a #### about getting their balance sheet in order. Mom and Dad are just supposed to buy those computers, those cell phone plans, et al. They cannot be burdened with a job, because a job keeps "me" from making a difference in people's lives. You know...laughing at my selfies and reading whatever happens to run through my brain 18-hours/day. [/GetOffMyLawn]

But the Millenials I know are also very creative, very resourceful. If only they (yet) had the wisdom to harness that power and do what needs to be done to make a King Kong-sized positive dent on the planet. But that's hard to do when you're glued to Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat/Youtube 80% of your conscious life...

Millenials will be fine once they get into their 30's. Right now they are obnoxious but what generation of kids wasn't?

The bolded is the truth to me. Maybe the Millenials are separated enough from the "greatest generation"/baby boomer disconnect to not be as cynical as Gen X.

 

[Henry Ford]

Millenials are innovators. Just like every generation we have a lot of people like MCGH, but there are also a ton of smart people changing how things are done and creating new technologies. You go into any tech company office and you'll find a bunch of hard-working and bright Millenials.

Yes there are a lot of self-entitled whiny #####es in my generation (whom I dislike as much as anyone else), but they are also a product of the environment they were raised, so this responsibility needs to be shared.

Yep. I'd say "true" on about 99% of that post right there. As a Gen-Xer, I also agree with what some people have written about my generation too. The boomers ####ed a lot of stuff up. Chasing materialism and other self-interest. Us Gen-Xers grew up with our parents' materialism and selfishness in broken homes, while contrasting that to the markedly different lives we witnessed in our grandparents. It made us cynical, sharp-witted, smarmy ###holes in a lot of ways. But for many of us, it also taught us to get our balance sheets in order, so we had time/flexibility to make a positive difference in the world.

The Millenials I know? They want to make their positive difference, but they seem to not give a #### about getting their balance sheet in order. Mom and Dad are just supposed to buy those computers, those cell phone plans, et al. They cannot be burdened with a job, because a job keeps "me" from making a difference in people's lives. You know...laughing at my selfies and reading whatever happens to run through my brain 18-hours/day. [/GetOffMyLawn]

But the Millenials I know are also very creative, very resourceful. If only they (yet) had the wisdom to harness that power and do what needs to be done to make a King Kong-sized positive dent on the planet. But that's hard to do when you're glued to Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat/Youtube 80% of your conscious life...

Millenials will be fine once they get into their 30's. Right now they are obnoxious but what generation of kids wasn't?

The bolded is the truth to me. Maybe the Millenials are separated enough from the "greatest generation"/baby boomer disconnect to not be as cynical as Gen X.

Maybe, but they seem to have inherited fiscal irresponsibility.

 

[Apple Jack]

Boomers raised millenials?

Pretty sure Gen X wasn't having lots of kids in 1983.

So boomers raised X'ers and millenials? It's all so terribly confusing but someone must be blamed.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

someone must be blamed.

 

[Henry Ford]

Boomers raised millenials?

Pretty sure Gen X wasn't having lots of kids in 1983.

So boomers raised X'ers and millenials? It's all so terribly confusing but someone must be blamed.

Likely half and half. Although gen x had kids late. You have those kids born in 1965 having kids at 30, hard to say they raised the millennial generation.

 

[Apple Jack]

Millenials are innovators. Just like every generation we have a lot of people like MCGH, but there are also a ton of smart people changing how things are done and creating new technologies. You go into any tech company office and you'll find a bunch of hard-working and bright Millenials.

Yes there are a lot of self-entitled whiny #####es in my generation (whom I dislike as much as anyone else), but they are also a product of the environment they were raised, so this responsibility needs to be shared.

Yep. I'd say "true" on about 99% of that post right there. As a Gen-Xer, I also agree with what some people have written about my generation too. The boomers ####ed a lot of stuff up. Chasing materialism and other self-interest. Us Gen-Xers grew up with our parents' materialism and selfishness in broken homes, while contrasting that to the markedly different lives we witnessed in our grandparents. It made us cynical, sharp-witted, smarmy ###holes in a lot of ways. But for many of us, it also taught us to get our balance sheets in order, so we had time/flexibility to make a positive difference in the world.

The Millenials I know? They want to make their positive difference, but they seem to not give a #### about getting their balance sheet in order. Mom and Dad are just supposed to buy those computers, those cell phone plans, et al. They cannot be burdened with a job, because a job keeps "me" from making a difference in people's lives. You know...laughing at my selfies and reading whatever happens to run through my brain 18-hours/day. [/GetOffMyLawn]

But the Millenials I know are also very creative, very resourceful. If only they (yet) had the wisdom to harness that power and do what needs to be done to make a King Kong-sized positive dent on the planet. But that's hard to do when you're glued to Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat/Youtube 80% of your conscious life...

Millenials will be fine once they get into their 30's. Right now they are obnoxious but what generation of kids wasn't?

The bolded is the truth to me. Maybe the Millenials are separated enough from the "greatest generation"/baby boomer disconnect to not be as cynical as Gen X.

Maybe, but they seem to have inherited fiscal irresponsibility.

True, but were the other generations being offered the crazy credit limits so aggressively advertised to these kids at such a young age?

 

[Henry Ford]

Millenials are innovators. Just like every generation we have a lot of people like MCGH, but there are also a ton of smart people changing how things are done and creating new technologies. You go into any tech company office and you'll find a bunch of hard-working and bright Millenials.

Yes there are a lot of self-entitled whiny #####es in my generation (whom I dislike as much as anyone else), but they are also a product of the environment they were raised, so this responsibility needs to be shared.

Yep. I'd say "true" on about 99% of that post right there. As a Gen-Xer, I also agree with what some people have written about my generation too. The boomers ####ed a lot of stuff up. Chasing materialism and other self-interest. Us Gen-Xers grew up with our parents' materialism and selfishness in broken homes, while contrasting that to the markedly different lives we witnessed in our grandparents. It made us cynical, sharp-witted, smarmy ###holes in a lot of ways. But for many of us, it also taught us to get our balance sheets in order, so we had time/flexibility to make a positive difference in the world.

The Millenials I know? They want to make their positive difference, but they seem to not give a #### about getting their balance sheet in order. Mom and Dad are just supposed to buy those computers, those cell phone plans, et al. They cannot be burdened with a job, because a job keeps "me" from making a difference in people's lives. You know...laughing at my selfies and reading whatever happens to run through my brain 18-hours/day. [/GetOffMyLawn]

But the Millenials I know are also very creative, very resourceful. If only they (yet) had the wisdom to harness that power and do what needs to be done to make a King Kong-sized positive dent on the planet. But that's hard to do when you're glued to Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat/Youtube 80% of your conscious life...

Millenials will be fine once they get into their 30's. Right now they are obnoxious but what generation of kids wasn't?

The bolded is the truth to me. Maybe the Millenials are separated enough from the "greatest generation"/baby boomer disconnect to not be as cynical as Gen X.

Maybe, but they seem to have inherited fiscal irresponsibility.

True, but were these other generations being offer the crazy credit limits so aggressively advertised to these kids at such a young age?

Gen X was.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Boomers raised millenials?

Pretty sure Gen X wasn't having lots of kids in 1983.

So boomers raised X'ers and millenials? It's all so terribly confusing but someone must be blamed.

Yes but they are old boomers in the case of Xers or they are younger depression era parents. Basically everyone I grew up with had penny-pinching parents who were impacted by the great depression. Plus I was very close to my grandparents who were greatest Gen, a lot of millennials missed those people or got them at the end.

 

[mr roboto]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

Iraq and Afghanistan were not major wars? I beg to differ.

And the Boomers were the ones who rode the markets and got all the plum jobs. How much money did Xers make on the bull market run? They were in their 20s, not in their prime earning years where that really matters.

 

[Brady Marino]

Eminence

MC Gas Bag

Woz

/millennials

Congrats guys, you're killing it.

I thought we were friends DD

Oh we are, we are.

If we were you would use my proper name or abbreviation

You should strive for an acronym of excellence.MCGM=a man of the people, a diamond in the rough, the player's player.

I'm good with the Y amiright?

Thats fine but why are you calling me gas bag if we are friends?

I'm Gen X, I sold my soul to the devil for $40 more dollars a week. You know, like you were saying. What did you expect? I can't be trusted.

Im an observer. I am not here to judge outside of a few exceptions. No reason to feel insulted.

What principle did you sell for $40 a week?

Celibacy.

 

[Ilov80s]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

Iraq and Afghanistan were not major wars? I beg to differ.

And the Boomers were the ones who rode the markets and got all the plum jobs. How much money did Xers make on the bull market run? They were in their 20s, not in their prime earning years where that really matters.

I don't think Afghanistan and Iraq are even close to comparable to Vietnam, Korea, WW2, WW1, or the Civil War whether we are talking conscription, number of soldiers deployed, casualties, level of sacrifice at the domestic level or actual concern over the end result of the war. I agree economically, it is just a fact that Gen X men made less than their fathers on average.

 

[Dippa]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

Iraq and Afghanistan were not major wars? I beg to differ.

And the Boomers were the ones who rode the markets and got all the plum jobs. How much money did Xers make on the bull market run? They were in their 20s, not in their prime earning years where that really matters.

I don't think Afghanistan and Iraq are even close to comparable to Vietnam, Korea, WW2, WW1, or the Civil War whether we are talking conscription, number of soldiers deployed, casualties, level of sacrifice at the domestic level or actual concern over the end result of the war. I agree economically, it is just a fact that Gen X men made less than their fathers on average.

You have to add the global war on terror into Iraq and Afghanistan, and I can assure you the level of combat in Iraq was easily as intense as Vietnam or Korea. We just learned from our mistakes in those wars and our advanced technology played a bigger role than it did in Vietnam. I think losing 5500 American lives in a war falls under the "major" definition for me, and Afghanistan has been our longest war in U.S. history.

 

[cstu]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

 

[mr roboto]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

I'm 31. I got the AOL around 5th grade.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

I would say that it was an integral part of their formative years. So This would fall into those born in the early to mid 80s IMO.

We had computers when I went to high school, but we didn't have them in our homes. I think anyone who didn't have access to computers and emerging technology in High School is Gen X for sure, and those people may have been graduating high school as late as 2000. So if I had to pick a cutoff year, it would be born in the year 1982.

 

[Dippa]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

I guess, but growing up with "Prodigy" internet vs. Facebook, etc. seems quite a bit different. Growing up, we played outside, rode bikes, and stuff like that rather than being glued to social media and video games.

 

[msommer]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

Iraq and Afghanistan were not major wars? I beg to differ.

And the Boomers were the ones who rode the markets and got all the plum jobs. How much money did Xers make on the bull market run? They were in their 20s, not in their prime earning years where that really matters.

I don't think Afghanistan and Iraq are even close to comparable to Vietnam, Korea, WW2, WW1, or the Civil War whether we are talking conscription, number of soldiers deployed, casualties, level of sacrifice at the domestic level or actual concern over the end result of the war. I agree economically, it is just a fact that Gen X men made less than their fathers on average.

You have to add the global war on terror into Iraq and Afghanistan, and I can assure you the level of combat in Iraq was easily as intense as Vietnam or Korea. We just learned from our mistakes in those wars and our advanced technology played a bigger role than it did in Vietnam. I think losing 5500 American lives in a war falls under the "major" definition for me, and Afghanistan has been our longest war in U.S. history.

Just to put things in perspective

During the Iraq and Afganistan conflicts 5,500 members of the armed services lost their lives. If we simplify that to 10 years and one million people in uniform that is 55/100,000

In the same timeframe more than 200,000 people were killed in the US in motor vehicle related accidents. That varies per year between 10 and 15/100,000.

But the soldiers lost comared to the whole population is less than one per 100,000.

So the conflicts probably had a larger personal impact on you if you were in the armed forces community than to the rest of society as a whole.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

Iraq and Afghanistan were not major wars? I beg to differ.

And the Boomers were the ones who rode the markets and got all the plum jobs. How much money did Xers make on the bull market run? They were in their 20s, not in their prime earning years where that really matters.

I don't think Afghanistan and Iraq are even close to comparable to Vietnam, Korea, WW2, WW1, or the Civil War whether we are talking conscription, number of soldiers deployed, casualties, level of sacrifice at the domestic level or actual concern over the end result of the war. I agree economically, it is just a fact that Gen X men made less than their fathers on average.

You have to add the global war on terror into Iraq and Afghanistan, and I can assure you the level of combat in Iraq was easily as intense as Vietnam or Korea. We just learned from our mistakes in those wars and our advanced technology played a bigger role than it did in Vietnam. I think losing 5500 American lives in a war falls under the "major" definition for me, and Afghanistan has been our longest war in U.S. history.

Just to put things in perspective

During the Iraq and Afganistan conflicts 5,500 members of the armed services lost their lives. If we simplify that to 10 years and one million people in uniform that is 55/100,000

In the same timeframe more than 200,000 people were killed in the US in motor vehicle related accidents. That varies per year between 10 and 15/100,000.

But the soldiers lost comared to the whole population is less than one per 100,000.

So the conflicts probably had a larger personal impact on you if you were in the armed forces community than to the rest of society as a whole.

Well that's pretty obvious but then think about the actual monetary cost of those wars to the taxpayer. Also the development of the bureaucratic monstrosity we have come to know as Homeland Security, the NSA spying scandal, Patriot Act, airport security, big city security, militarization of local police departments, tens of thousands of wounded vets and less stability in the Arab world. The cost is there, it's not like when we pulled out of Vietnam and it all just stopped. These wars can go on for the rest of our lifetimes.

OEF and OIF U.S. casualties are also around 7000, which means nothing in the statistical world, but does mean something to me. Just wanted to correct that number.

 

[msommer]

Millennials might care about Snowden but can't see them care about much of the rest you mentioned

 

[Ilov80s]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

I guess, but growing up with "Prodigy" internet vs. Facebook, etc. seems quite a bit different. Growing up, we played outside, rode bikes, and stuff like that rather than being glued to social media and video games.

I was born in 82 also and think it may be kind of an intbetween generation. I grew up with "old technology". We had a black and white TV in my basement, my grandparents had a rotary phone, we played records and had a typewriter. Yet, I was young enough that when computers/internet developed, it came natural to me and I was with it every step of the way. I used AIM to pick up girls, I was in college when FB was created and spread (when it was actually for college students). So Twitter, Instagram, and so on is very natural and easily adopted as part of my life, I can recall "the old way". Maybe it isn't a separate generation, but I like the perspective it has provided me.

 

[Ilov80s]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

I would say that it was an integral part of their formative years. So This would fall into those born in the early to mid 80s IMO.

We had computers when I went to high school, but we didn't have them in our homes. I think anyone who didn't have access to computers and emerging technology in High School is Gen X for sure, and those people may have been graduating high school as late as 2000. So if I had to pick a cutoff year, it would be born in the year 1982.

I graduated in 2000. We used computers in school as early as 1st grade. In high school, we had a lot of computers with the internet in high school and had to type papers, use internet for research, etc. I had a home computer from 7th grade on. I spent a ton of time on AOL and AIM in high school. I think it has to be a little earlier than 82, but it is close. It is funny because my friend (also born in 82) has 2 brothers that are 2 and 4 years older. They are so clueless with technology. They need help burning a CD (why are they even still using CDs??) and figuring out how to use a smartphone and what an app is. My friend and I often speculate that we must have just been on the other side of some dividing line with technology where the average person was so exposed to computer technology at a young enough age that it became a natural and the skills/understanding developed with our growing cognitive skills.

 

[Riversco]

I'd label Generation Z as anyone too young to remember 911.

 

[Christo]

You suck. But I really don't believe you're sorry.

 

[msommer]

I'd label Generation Z as anyone too young to remember 911.

The generation Z moniker should be reserved for the survivors of the Zombie apocolypse

 

[Ilov80s]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.

Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

Iraq and Afghanistan were not major wars? I beg to differ.

And the Boomers were the ones who rode the markets and got all the plum jobs. How much money did Xers make on the bull market run? They were in their 20s, not in their prime earning years where that really matters.

I don't think Afghanistan and Iraq are even close to comparable to Vietnam, Korea, WW2, WW1, or the Civil War whether we are talking conscription, number of soldiers deployed, casualties, level of sacrifice at the domestic level or actual concern over the end result of the war. I agree economically, it is just a fact that Gen X men made less than their fathers on average.

You have to add the global war on terror into Iraq and Afghanistan, and I can assure you the level of combat in Iraq was easily as intense as Vietnam or Korea. We just learned from our mistakes in those wars and our advanced technology played a bigger role than it did in Vietnam. I think losing 5500 American lives in a war falls under the "major" definition for me, and Afghanistan has been our longest war in U.S. history.

I believe you that it was as intense, however, the perception amongst the people at home certainly never saw it that way. 9/11 was huge. No doubt. It rattled people, but the wars themselves (at least perception domestically) was a victory march with "shock and awe". We felt that we were easily trouncing the enemy. While we might have miscalculated things, let guys escape, had poor strategy, but it was never a worry of "oh no, we are might lose this war. The enemy might slaughter our troops." We didn't have to make very many sacrifices at home except longer, slower lines for international travel or attending sporting events.

Looking at the numbers themselves, it is even more telling. The War on Terror was the longest war and we lost around 6,000 men. In Vietnam, we lost 50,000 men. Korea was another 30,000 and so on. I know you know all of that already as you know more about the military than likely anyone else here. When you look at deaths as a part of the total population, I don't believe it even ranks as one of the top 10 most costly wars in US history. I just don't think the War on Terror had the widespread direct impact on the citizens as the other big wars of the 20th century did.

 

[Steve Tasker]

lol at some of these comments on the video. Haters gonna hate.

Generation Y. Y the #### are you here? Y don't we just kill you all? Y don't you go drink a gallon draino? Y are you feminine men and masculine women? Y haven't you contributed anything to this planet? This economy? The entertainment? Y the #### do you love the sound of your own useless voice and rhetoric? Y do we tolerate you? Y don't we choke you with your own skinny jeans and strap on dildos? Y don't you die already? Y am I so angry? Y not? Y is one these useless brain dead half a homos spending 10 minutes thinking of a cool lame response, that will only be homosexual humor? Y are you that guy? Y do we celebrate and encourage #####assness? Y?

All I heard was, "Thanks for the degree, here's the bill. Our lives are your fault."

Wah! Just sit there and let the grown ups waste our time showing you how it's done. I'll text you the outcome.

One last footnote, if we had ever spoken to our parents with such sarcasm, we would have had soap casserole for dinner followed by "leather-strap-across-your-###" for dessert.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

There is some debate about what birthdate range falls under millenials. I was born in 1984. Im confused what generation im in.

Let's just assume you suck.

JFC

 

[Henry Ford]

I dont consider myself a part of any generation. My values are unique and I know what I want.

My description.is what I see around me.

In the recent generations I am not counting tje squishy brained and soft bodied zombies poisoned by chemicals and laziness, they have no impact on the world, im talking about the mentally sharp and what they are trying to clean up.Selling out means trading your principles for money

There's a reason why Gen X is doing well financially - we skipped right over the principles BS and went right for the money. Growing up in the 80's, Woodstock was barely in the past yet the whole baby boomer generation had completely forgotten what it believed in and become consumption obsessed while voting for a President who said ""People who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless . . . are homeless, you might say, by choice."

Gen X is doing well because they won the birth lottery. They came of age in the 80s and went into the job market in the 90s. They bought homes in the 90s and saw the tech and housing run up. Now they are old enough to make it through the recession by having resumes that give them advantages over younger job seekers, but aren't so old that it's a detriment.Millennial a graduated college after 05. I graduated in 05 and it was ok for about 2 years. Those of us who managed to buy a home at a young age got screwed by baby boomer and Gen X buyers tanking the mortgage industry. The jobs that college grads used to get aren't nearly as available.

Oh, and who raised the Millennials? The most self centered generation in US history - Boomers.

Lots of nonfactual stuff in here. Saying Gen X won the birth lottery is about the funniest thing anyone has ever said on these boards. Comedian?

No major wars. No major economic crises. Young adult age was decent to great for both investment and employment.

umm... No major economic crises? Investment and employment? When do you think Gen X was? Ever hear of Black Monday? The Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal?

How about the Cold War? Certainty that someone was going to drop a nuclear weapon? AIDS?

 

[Henry Ford]

I think if you were sexually active when Ryan White died, you can safely say you didn't win the birth lottery.

 

[cstu]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

I guess, but growing up with "Prodigy" internet vs. Facebook, etc. seems quite a bit different. Growing up, we played outside, rode bikes, and stuff like that rather than being glued to social media and video games.

I was born in 82 also and think it may be kind of an intbetween generation. I grew up with "old technology". We had a black and white TV in my basement, my grandparents had a rotary phone, we played records and had a typewriter. Yet, I was young enough that when computers/internet developed, it came natural to me and I was with it every step of the way. I used AIM to pick up girls, I was in college when FB was created and spread (when it was actually for college students). So Twitter, Instagram, and so on is very natural and easily adopted as part of my life, I can recall "the old way". Maybe it isn't a separate generation, but I like the perspective it has provided me.

I think you were right on the edge.

One of the biggest changes in history was the development of high speed internet, which started in the early 2000's. It really didn't become widespread until about 2003 (16% of people had it in March 2003). The reason I use 1990 as the true start of the Millennials is that those kids had high speed internet, Napster, FB, etc. from the time they became teenagers. Those kids have no memory of anything but 'always on' internet where they could download any music or movies they wanted.

 

[Ilov80s]

Being born in 1982, I always thought we were generation Y and the millennials came after that. Apparently I'm a millennial, but being grouped with those who were born in the 2000's seems odd. Growing up in the 80's was far more like the 70's than the 00's.

A Millenial in my mind had the internet from the time they can remember. That would be 1990 at the earliest.

I guess, but growing up with "Prodigy" internet vs. Facebook, etc. seems quite a bit different. Growing up, we played outside, rode bikes, and stuff like that rather than being glued to social media and video games.

I was born in 82 also and think it may be kind of an intbetween generation. I grew up with "old technology". We had a black and white TV in my basement, my grandparents had a rotary phone, we played records and had a typewriter. Yet, I was young enough that when computers/internet developed, it came natural to me and I was with it every step of the way. I used AIM to pick up girls, I was in college when FB was created and spread (when it was actually for college students). So Twitter, Instagram, and so on is very natural and easily adopted as part of my life, I can recall "the old way". Maybe it isn't a separate generation, but I like the perspective it has provided me.

I think you were right on the edge.

One of the biggest changes in history was the development of high speed internet, which started in the early 2000's. It really didn't become widespread until about 2003 (16% of people had it in March 2003). The reason I use 1990 as the true start of the Millennials is that those kids had high speed internet, Napster, FB, etc. from the time they became teenagers. Those kids have no memory of anything but 'always on' internet where they could download any music or movies they wanted.

Right, which is why I think there is kind of a transitional area. High speed internet and Napster was more end of HS and beginning of college, along with the proliferation of mobile phones (I had a pager for a brief period of time in HS). However, I was still young enough where I was young and cutting edge when it came to stealing music, getting girls, viewing videos, researching, etc. on the internet. I was the group that FB, Napster, and these things were developed and targeted for.