Mitt Romney: Russia is America's #1 geopolitical foe (1 Viewer)

[jerseydevil20]

I guess the 80s called Obama?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I guess the 80s called Obama?

Yes, I'm expecting Members Only jackets to be making a return soon as well.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Joint Chiefs nominee: Russia greatest threat to U.S.

By Jamie Crawford, National Security Producer

Updated 3:35 PM ET, Fri July 10, 2015


Washington (CNN)Russia currently poses the greatest global threat to the United States, according to the man slated to be President Barack Obama's top military adviser.
"Russia presents the greatest threat to our national security," Gen. Joseph Dunford told the Senate Armed Services committee during his confirmation hearing to be the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

With its large nuclear arsenal, destabilizing role in Ukraine and threat to NATO nations on its borders, Russia presents a significant challenge to the U.S., even as it faces threats like that of ISIS.

"If you want to talk about a nation that could pose an existential threat to the United States, I would have to point to Russia," Dunford said. "And if you look at their behavior, it's nothing short of alarming,"

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/09/politics/joseph-dunford-russia-greatest-threat/index.html

 

[HellToupee]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9168533/Mitt-Romney-Russia-is-Americas-number-one-geopolitical-foe.html

I really want to support this guy. But sometimes he makes it so damn difficult. Doesn't he realize that, as the man who will be the Republican nominee, his words have impact overseas?

We don't need to have Russia as our enemy. We would be much better off in the long run with Russia as our friend, for a whole variety of reasons. If Romney is elected he has created a big mess here which he will have to clean up. I figure he thinks he's Ronald Reagan, but he isn't, just as today's Russia is not the Soviet Union.

 

[HellToupee]

My goodness, Mitt. Having (naturally) different national interests than us hardly makes a nation an enemy. The freaking Russkies have enough internal problems of their own and plenty of pressure on their immediate borders to worry much about us.

 

[timschochet]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9168533/Mitt-Romney-Russia-is-Americas-number-one-geopolitical-foe.html

I really want to support this guy. But sometimes he makes it so damn difficult. Doesn't he realize that, as the man who will be the Republican nominee, his words have impact overseas?

We don't need to have Russia as our enemy. We would be much better off in the long run with Russia as our friend, for a whole variety of reasons. If Romney is elected he has created a big mess here which he will have to clean up. I figure he thinks he's Ronald Reagan, but he isn't, just as today's Russia is not the Soviet Union.

I stand by every word of this. Russia's participation will be vital to the success of the Iran deal. I don't like Putin, don't trust him, but we have to get past that. We have too many common interests.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9168533/Mitt-Romney-Russia-is-Americas-number-one-geopolitical-foe.html

I really want to support this guy. But sometimes he makes it so damn difficult. Doesn't he realize that, as the man who will be the Republican nominee, his words have impact overseas?

We don't need to have Russia as our enemy. We would be much better off in the long run with Russia as our friend, for a whole variety of reasons. If Romney is elected he has created a big mess here which he will have to clean up. I figure he thinks he's Ronald Reagan, but he isn't, just as today's Russia is not the Soviet Union.

Tim doing his best to fill LHUCKS' shoes I see.

 

[HellToupee]

I continue to be surprised at how many people support this goober. I don't get it. What does he have over you people?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And in the MMQB department Romney was also right about the size of the navy sinking to such a small size marines would have to hitch rides on foreign ships. He was also mocked for that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/21/marines-amphibious/28935549/

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/obama-mocks-romneys-horses-and-bayonets/story-e6frfkui-1226501536584

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9168533/Mitt-Romney-Russia-is-Americas-number-one-geopolitical-foe.html

I really want to support this guy. But sometimes he makes it so damn difficult. Doesn't he realize that, as the man who will be the Republican nominee, his words have impact overseas?

We don't need to have Russia as our enemy. We would be much better off in the long run with Russia as our friend, for a whole variety of reasons. If Romney is elected he has created a big mess here which he will have to clean up. I figure he thinks he's Ronald Reagan, but he isn't, just as today's Russia is not the Soviet Union.

I stand by every word of this.Russia's participation will be vital to the success of the Iran deal. I don't like Putin, don't trust him, but we have to get past that. We have too many common interests.

So unless our next Joint Chief of Staff is wrong ("Russia currently poses the greatest global threat to the United States, according to the man slated to be President Barack Obama's top military adviser."), Romney has been proved right, he was just wrong to say it?

Yaknow, Russia has emboldened and strengthened Iran, they have not been helping us in the least bit there. Russia's backing of Iran has legitimately cost us a lot. Even your acknowledging that shows the impact they are having outside their region, Russia has impacted things in Iran, Syria, Egypt, Greece and western Europe.

 

[Hilts]

And in the MMQB department Romney was also right about the size of the navy sinking to such a small size marines would have to hitch rides on foreign ships. He was also mocked for that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/21/marines-amphibious/28935549/

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/obama-mocks-romneys-horses-and-bayonets/story-e6frfkui-1226501536584

I'm perhaps naive but I'm not immediately understanding why that's a bad thing.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And in the MMQB department Romney was also right about the size of the navy sinking to such a small size marines would have to hitch rides on foreign ships. He was also mocked for that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/21/marines-amphibious/28935549/

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/obama-mocks-romneys-horses-and-bayonets/story-e6frfkui-1226501536584

I'm perhaps naive but I'm not immediately understanding why that's a bad thing.

Hm, not sure either, I think the point there was just that he was proven right that it was happening. The even odder thing was that Pres. Obama mocked him for it when as you say maybe he should have gone with it and defended it as the right strategy as that's what they were indeed doing.

 

[The Commish]

I continue to be surprised at how many people support this goober. I don't get it. What does he have over you people?

I don't get it

 

[roadkill1292]

And in the MMQB department Romney was also right about the size of the navy sinking to such a small size marines would have to hitch rides on foreign ships. He was also mocked for that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/21/marines-amphibious/28935549/

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/obama-mocks-romneys-horses-and-bayonets/story-e6frfkui-1226501536584

I'm perhaps naive but I'm not immediately understanding why that's a bad thing.

What have countries with smaller navies been doing to get past this problem?

 

[Hilts]

And in the MMQB department Romney was also right about the size of the navy sinking to such a small size marines would have to hitch rides on foreign ships. He was also mocked for that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/21/marines-amphibious/28935549/

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/obama-mocks-romneys-horses-and-bayonets/story-e6frfkui-1226501536584

I'm perhaps naive but I'm not immediately understanding why that's a bad thing.

What have countries with smaller navies been doing to get past this problem?

100% speculation here but I'm guessing a combination of working with their allies and not patrolling every corner of the globe.

 

[Jack White]

Still searching the globe for international bogeymen?

When will the sheeple finally wake up and realize that the biggest threat to "America" is not Russia or Iran or China . . . but their own government?

 

[Go DC Yourself]

Still searching the globe for international bogeymen?

Only on odd-numbered days. On even-numbered days we are becoming Greece.

 

[Hang 10]

And in the MMQB department Romney was also right about the size of the navy sinking to such a small size marines would have to hitch rides on foreign ships. He was also mocked for that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/21/marines-amphibious/28935549/

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/obama-mocks-romneys-horses-and-bayonets/story-e6frfkui-1226501536584

I'm perhaps naive but I'm not immediately understanding why that's a bad thing.

What have countries with smaller navies been doing to get past this problem?

Let the US do the heavy lifting.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

YAH!

That was a real zinger.

US Warns Russia Over Airstrikes in Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_MYXlOdUcI&feature=youtu.be

 

[Chadstroma]

Some real gold here in the reaction to Romney's comment which through Georgia, Ukraine/Crimea, a lesser extent Kyrgyzstan and now Syria has shown without doubt that Romney was absolutely on the mark.

 

[HellToupee]

What a foolish remark from Mr. Etch A Sketch.

It's worse than foolish. It's actually damaging to our national interests. It's by far Romney's worst comment of the campaign.

I don't think it's damaging really. Medved pretty much slapped Romney down on it and Wes Clark finished him off. The Russians don't take that crap seriously really. If he got elected they might use it against him at the table but in general they know it was just stupid campaign talk.

Just more rhetoric for the likes of Putin. It is shame, I think Obama is making good progress with Russia. When will we learn that our approach with other countries needs to be based on trade and facilitating an open dialogue? Not threats and military buildup. I guess the former doesn't play well with the American people.

1st page was full of gems

 

[cstu]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

 

[timschochet]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

This. Not even close.

 

[Chadstroma]

Really? Are you guys just doubling down or do you have an actual argument to make? Or do you have a clue what is meant by geopolitical foe?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

Do you agree that they are at least geopolitical?

Pres. Obama could not even utter that much.

 

[tom22406]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

Do you agree that they are at least geopolitical?

Pres. Obama could not even utter that much.

Didn't he call them a "Regional Power"?

 

[jonessed]

Some real gold here in the reaction to Romney's comment which through Georgia, Ukraine/Crimea, a lesser extent Kyrgyzstan and now Syria has shown without doubt that Romney was absolutely on the mark.

Second behind Canada.

 

[jonessed]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

Do you agree that they are at least geopolitical?

Pres. Obama could not even utter that much.

Didn't he call them a "Regional Power"?

He's just a big thinker. The earth is a region of the solar system.

 

[Chadstroma]

Some real gold here in the reaction to Romney's comment which through Georgia, Ukraine/Crimea, a lesser extent Kyrgyzstan and now Syria has shown without doubt that Romney was absolutely on the mark.

Second behind Canada.

I have always been suspicious of the Canucks

 

[RCon]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

This. Not even close.

Can either of you please rank the top five? I have a draft coming up...

 

[Hang 10]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

This. Not even close.

Can either of you please rank the top five? I have a draft coming up...

Dynasty or redraft? I've been making a boatload of cash in the geopolitical daily leagues.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

Russia is in Syria fighting Islamic jihadists. Thought about it long and hard, and I can see no other option but to declare war on Russia.

 

[Chadstroma]

Russia is in Syria fighting Islamic jihadists. Thought about it long and hard, and I can see no other option but to declare war on Russia.

Glad you thougth about it long and hard. Maybe pay a tad more attention and gain a tad more understanding of what is happening before you spin your wheels next time?

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Tim digging in hard.

Keep it up my good man, you are doing the Lord's work.

 

[timschochet]

Truth is I don't consider Russia a geopolitical threat because I don't think we have any geopolitical foes. Our biggest foes are scientific, economic, and ideological. In no particular order:

1. World debt and our own debt.

2. Shrinking energy supply.

3. Climate change.

4. Militant radical Islamism.

5. The spread of nuclear weapons.

6. Threats to trade vs changes to manufacturing.

7. Isolationism, nativism, ignorance, poverty, lack of education, class divide, and racism (internal threats).

Compared to these significant problems, I don't see Russia as a threat. They're an annoyance, a poor country in economic trouble pretending that they are still the Soviet Union. It's both sad and pathetic. We're going to have strained relations with them over Syria and the Ukraine. But we're never going to fight s war with them. They'll never dominate Eastern Europe like they once did. So it's not really much of a foe.

 

[Chadstroma]

Truth is I don't consider Russia a geopolitical threat because I don't think we have any geopolitical foes. Our biggest foes are scientific, economic, and ideological. In no particular order:

1. World debt and our own debt.

2. Shrinking energy supply.

3. Climate change.

4. Militant radical Islamism.

5. The spread of nuclear weapons.

6. Threats to trade vs changes to manufacturing.

7. Isolationism, nativism, ignorance, poverty, lack of education, class divide, and racism (internal threats).

Compared to these significant problems, I don't see Russia as a threat. They're an annoyance, a poor country in economic trouble pretending that they are still the Soviet Union. It's both sad and pathetic. We're going to have strained relations with them over Syria and the Ukraine. But we're never going to fight s war with them. They'll never dominate Eastern Europe like they once did. So it's not really much of a foe.

Did you pull anything stretching that hard?

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Truth is I don't consider Russia a geopolitical threat because I don't think we have any geopolitical foes. Our biggest foes are scientific, economic, and ideological. In no particular order:

1. World debt and our own debt.

2. Shrinking energy supply.

3. Climate change.

4. Militant radical Islamism.

5. The spread of nuclear weapons.

6. Threats to trade vs changes to manufacturing.

7. Isolationism, nativism, ignorance, poverty, lack of education, class divide, and racism (internal threats).

Compared to these significant problems, I don't see Russia as a threat. They're an annoyance, a poor country in economic trouble pretending that they are still the Soviet Union. It's both sad and pathetic. We're going to have strained relations with them over Syria and the Ukraine. But we're never going to fight s war with them. They'll never dominate Eastern Europe like they once did. So it's not really much of a foe.

So your argument is that we are in a post geo-politics world? That there is no #1 geopolitical foe because it is no longer a relevant concept? I would call that a patently silly contention.

But even if we stipulate that your assertion isn't absolute nonsense, of the list of above (which are a mix of very important concerns and some other stuff), Russia is a major factor in all of the bolded ones.

 

[Rove!]

Russia is in Syria fighting Islamic jihadists. Thought about it long and hard, and I can see no other option but to declare war on Russia.

Not just any Islamic Jihadists, our Islamic Jihadists....

 

[mr roboto]

Truth is I don't consider Russia a geopolitical threat because I don't think we have any geopolitical foes. Our biggest foes are scientific, economic, and ideological. In no particular order:

1. World debt and our own debt.

2. Shrinking energy supply.

3. Climate change.

4. Militant radical Islamism.

5. The spread of nuclear weapons.

6. Threats to trade vs changes to manufacturing.

7. Isolationism, nativism, ignorance, poverty, lack of education, class divide, and racism (internal threats).

Compared to these significant problems, I don't see Russia as a threat. They're an annoyance, a poor country in economic trouble pretending that they are still the Soviet Union. It's both sad and pathetic. We're going to have strained relations with them over Syria and the Ukraine. But we're never going to fight s war with them. They'll never dominate Eastern Europe like they once did. So it's not really much of a foe.

So your argument is that we are in a post geo-politics world? That there is no #1 geopolitical foe because it is no longer a relevant concept? I would call that a patently silly contention.

But even if we stipulate that your assertion isn't absolute nonsense, of the list of above (which are a mix of very important concerns and some other stuff), Russia is a major factor in all of the bolded ones.

Tim is 100% convinced there will be no more us vs. them wars between countries ever again.

 

[Fennis]

I agree with Romney's several month later clarification

That doesn't make them an enemy. It doesn’t make them a combatant. They don't represent the No. 1 national security threat.

Russia is a not a major threat and they are a regional power whose interest sometimes conflicts with ours

 

[Chadstroma]

I agree with Romney's several month later clarification

That doesn't make them an enemy. It doesn’t make them a combatant. They don't represent the No. 1 national security threat.

Russia is a not a major threat and they are a regional power whose interest sometimes conflicts with ours

That should have been clear to anyone that understands the phrase "geopolitical foe". Kinda sad that he had to spell it out further.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Truth is I don't consider Russia a geopolitical threat because I don't think we have any geopolitical foes. Our biggest foes are scientific, economic, and ideological. In no particular order:

1. World debt and our own debt.

2. Shrinking energy supply.

3. Climate change.

4. Militant radical Islamism.

5. The spread of nuclear weapons.

6. Threats to trade vs changes to manufacturing.

7. Isolationism, nativism, ignorance, poverty, lack of education, class divide, and racism (internal threats).

Compared to these significant problems, I don't see Russia as a threat. They're an annoyance, a poor country in economic trouble pretending that they are still the Soviet Union. It's both sad and pathetic. We're going to have strained relations with them over Syria and the Ukraine. But we're never going to fight s war with them. They'll never dominate Eastern Europe like they once did. So it's not really much of a foe.

So your argument is that we are in a post geo-politics world? That there is no #1 geopolitical foe because it is no longer a relevant concept? I would call that a patently silly contention.

But even if we stipulate that your assertion isn't absolute nonsense, of the list of above (which are a mix of very important concerns and some other stuff), Russia is a major factor in all of the bolded ones.

Tim is 100% convinced there will be no more us vs. them wars between countries ever again.

And WWI was the War to End All Wars.

It only took 20 years for a much bigger one to break out, among many of the same combatants.

 

[RCon]

Truth is I don't consider Russia a geopolitical threat because I don't think we have any geopolitical foes. Our biggest foes are scientific, economic, and ideological. In no particular order:

1. World debt and our own debt.

2. Shrinking energy supply.

3. Climate change.

4. Militant radical Islamism.

5. The spread of nuclear weapons.

6. Threats to trade vs changes to manufacturing.

7. Isolationism, nativism, ignorance, poverty, lack of education, class divide, and racism (internal threats).

Compared to these significant problems, I don't see Russia as a threat. They're an annoyance, a poor country in economic trouble pretending that they are still the Soviet Union. It's both sad and pathetic. We're going to have strained relations with them over Syria and the Ukraine. But we're never going to fight s war with them. They'll never dominate Eastern Europe like they once did. So it's not really much of a foe.

You ought to read this: http://www.vox.com/2015/6/29/8845913/russia-war

 

[Fennis]

I agree with Romney's several month later clarification

That doesn't make them an enemy. It doesn’t make them a combatant. They don't represent the No. 1 national security threat.

Russia is a not a major threat and they are a regional power whose interest sometimes conflicts with ours

That should have been clear to anyone that understands the phrase "geopolitical foe". Kinda sad that he had to spell it out further.

OK great I didn't think we would all agree with Romney that Russia isn't an enemy.

 

[Slapdash]

What a foolish remark from Mr. Etch A Sketch.

It's worse than foolish. It's actually damaging to our national interests. It's by far Romney's worst comment of the campaign.

I don't think it's damaging really. Medved pretty much slapped Romney down on it and Wes Clark finished him off. The Russians don't take that crap seriously really. If he got elected they might use it against him at the table but in general they know it was just stupid campaign talk.

Just more rhetoric for the likes of Putin. It is shame, I think Obama is making good progress with Russia. When will we learn that our approach with other countries needs to be based on trade and facilitating an open dialogue? Not threats and military buildup. I guess the former doesn't play well with the American people.

1st page was full of gems

You guys were totally right. We should be fighting Russia in Ukraine in Syria.

 

[Fennis]

What a foolish remark from Mr. Etch A Sketch.

It's worse than foolish. It's actually damaging to our national interests. It's by far Romney's worst comment of the campaign.

I don't think it's damaging really. Medved pretty much slapped Romney down on it and Wes Clark finished him off. The Russians don't take that crap seriously really. If he got elected they might use it against him at the table but in general they know it was just stupid campaign talk.

Just more rhetoric for the likes of Putin. It is shame, I think Obama is making good progress with Russia. When will we learn that our approach with other countries needs to be based on trade and facilitating an open dialogue? Not threats and military buildup. I guess the former doesn't play well with the American people.

1st page was full of gems

You guys were totally right. We should be fighting Russia in Ukraine in Syria.

especially if Russia votes against the US in a UN vote, as the big bad foe.

 

[Slapdash]

What a foolish remark from Mr. Etch A Sketch.

It's worse than foolish. It's actually damaging to our national interests. It's by far Romney's worst comment of the campaign.

I don't think it's damaging really. Medved pretty much slapped Romney down on it and Wes Clark finished him off. The Russians don't take that crap seriously really. If he got elected they might use it against him at the table but in general they know it was just stupid campaign talk.

Just more rhetoric for the likes of Putin. It is shame, I think Obama is making good progress with Russia. When will we learn that our approach with other countries needs to be based on trade and facilitating an open dialogue? Not threats and military buildup. I guess the former doesn't play well with the American people.

1st page was full of gems

You guys were totally right. We should be fighting Russia in Ukraine in Syria.

especially if Russia votes against the US in a UN vote, as the big bad foe.

Probably need to upgrade them into the Axis of Evil

 

[HellToupee]

What a foolish remark from Mr. Etch A Sketch.

It's worse than foolish. It's actually damaging to our national interests. It's by far Romney's worst comment of the campaign.

I don't think it's damaging really. Medved pretty much slapped Romney down on it and Wes Clark finished him off. The Russians don't take that crap seriously really. If he got elected they might use it against him at the table but in general they know it was just stupid campaign talk.

Just more rhetoric for the likes of Putin. It is shame, I think Obama is making good progress with Russia. When will we learn that our approach with other countries needs to be based on trade and facilitating an open dialogue? Not threats and military buildup. I guess the former doesn't play well with the American people.

1st page was full of gems

We should be fighting Russia in Ukraine in Syria.

Sure that is exactly what we are saying

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

What a foolish remark from Mr. Etch A Sketch.

It's worse than foolish. It's actually damaging to our national interests. It's by far Romney's worst comment of the campaign.

I don't think it's damaging really. Medved pretty much slapped Romney down on it and Wes Clark finished him off. The Russians don't take that crap seriously really. If he got elected they might use it against him at the table but in general they know it was just stupid campaign talk.

Just more rhetoric for the likes of Putin. It is shame, I think Obama is making good progress with Russia. When will we learn that our approach with other countries needs to be based on trade and facilitating an open dialogue? Not threats and military buildup. I guess the former doesn't play well with the American people.

1st page was full of gems

You guys were totally right. We should be fighting Russia in Ukraine in Syria.

Well that's an aggressively stupid post.

 

[cstu]

Russia is still not our #1 geopolitical foe.

Do you agree that they are at least geopolitical?

Pres. Obama could not even utter that much.

The argument I've made repeatedly is that 'acting tough' doesn't actually solve anything. In fact, I think it would play right into Putin's hands because I think he'd love to be at war with the U.S.