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MNF - Titans @ Texans (1 Viewer)
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The Frankman
Footballguy
Why is Watson dropping back?
brun
Footballguy
I did not know the Texans theoretically can't afford Clowney next year. 17 mil tag and 16 mil in cap space. If the Titans don't fire Vrabel, he's sure to be lurking to grab him as a free agent if the Texans can't clear up enough space.
What's the tag that's a first and third? Maybe the Texans gotta do that?
Thinking out loud, kind of catching up here, fill me in Texans fans
What's the tag that's a first and third? Maybe the Texans gotta do that?
Thinking out loud, kind of catching up here, fill me in Texans fans
Rove!
Footballguy
Disagree
just because a ball moves a bit, doesn’t mean the carrier has lost control. In booth review, I w oils need to see a clearer picture of loss of control
GregR
Footballguy
Doesn't sound right. From overthecap... Texans have $19m unused right now that will carry over. They have like $73m in cap room next year. Not sure if that includes the $19m even.
Clowney, J-Jo, Kareem Jackson, Honeybadger and the kicker need new contracts. Some others like DT Covington and the street CBs we picked up may also get re-signed.
Yeah, not sure where you heard that. Texans are projected for like the 5th most cap space in the league. And that’s before they either cut or restructure DT and Kevin Johnson (looks like Lamar Miller will definitely be kept.) They will use a big chunk of it resigning Clowney, Honey Badger, Kareem Jackson, etc but should still have a boatload left with Watson in year 3 of his rookie deal.
GregR
Footballguy
Ok, same replays at the stadium as the broadcast, except I don't recall if the one they did the extra zoom on had the extra zoom.
I can see where you guys see it as having come out. I thought he was still holding it like a QB rather than like a RB but clearly he wasn't. So when it moved away from his arm that was probably the ball coming free even if you couldn't see his grip on it.
I can see where you guys see it as having come out. I thought he was still holding it like a QB rather than like a RB but clearly he wasn't. So when it moved away from his arm that was probably the ball coming free even if you couldn't see his grip on it.
I see 68 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/cap/2019/# wow. Sorry I should have looked there first
brun
Footballguy
Not sure it's all on the coaching staff. Seemed to me that, when faced with pressure, MM lost sight of possible 3-5 yard passes and opted to just eat the ball too quickly. Would be curious what the dropbacks / passes ratio was.
GregR
Footballguy
Nah, where I was coming from was... picture a QB holding the ball to pass (as I had thought he was still gripping it at the end of the run). His wrist can move any direction he wants without losing control. Seeing the ball moving relative to his arm (in a similar way to what we saw in this replay) wouldn't mean a loss of control necessarily, it could just be his wrist bending but he still has a grip on it. If he'd still been holding it like a passer, you have to see his hand in the replay to know if he's still gripping it, was what I was saying at first.
If you hold it like a RB though, your wrist is locked in place so the ball can't move much relative to your arm. If it does move, you lost control. Being able to see earlier in the replay than they showed on the screen, he definitely had it gripped like a RB so agree it was a fumble.
