Mohamed massaquoi (1 Viewer)

[theglorydays]

Do you guys think Massaquoi is rosterable at this point? According to the Browns Depth chart, he is listed behind Edwards and Cribbs, so i'm assuming he is the #3 wide receiver in Cleveland. The thing that intrigues me about this situation is the possibility of Edwards being suspended. What do you guys think? Act now? Wait to see what happens? Terrible offense with almost no fantasy points to go around?

 

[ft_ball_fan]

I was thinking the same... We've seen what Anderson can do when he develops a repore with a WR... can't hurt to grab him and see what happens... the only 'risk' is passing on other guys who might develop (Hurd in DAL, Kenny Britt in TEN, Austin Collie in IND)... they all have some potentail to step up... But I think I like MM's situation a little better (in a toss up with Hurd in DAL)...

 

[Black]

According to the Browns Depth chart, he is listed behind Edwards and Cribbs

According to D. Anderson, he's #1 on the depth chart, to the tune of 13 targets, second only behind SSmith NYG week 4 with 16.Team stinks, but SOMEONE has to catch the ball and MM doesn't lose points for DA's INTs.

 

[davearm]

According to the Browns Depth chart, he is listed behind Edwards and Cribbs

According to D. Anderson, he's #1 on the depth chart, to the tune of 13 targets, second only behind SSmith NYG week 4 with 16.Team stinks, but SOMEONE has to catch the ball and MM doesn't lose points for DA's INTs.

13 targets huh? Same number as Earl Bennett had in week 1, when he took a turn being the waiver wire darling du jour. Since then he's gotten a grand total of 8 in 3 games.Don't be surprised if Massaquoi heads down the same path.

 

[Football Jones]

Massaquoi will likely be inconsistent, not to mention Ds will now be more focused on him. I doubt Massaquoi will be able to thrive this season for the simple fact he's a rookie & his QB is inherently inconsistent, as well, but in dynasty leagues, this guy is a big-time buy, IMO.

Nobody grew on me more during last season's rookie draft prep than Massaquoi (meaning, no other player made a bigger jump from where I had him at the beginning of my draft prep than where he ended up in my final rankings). I knew Massaquoi was a decent prospect, but once I started taking a good look at him, I realized his game would translate. I believe he can be a NFL WR1, which certainly bodes well for FF (long-term).

 

[Chase Stuart]

According to the Browns Depth chart, he is listed behind Edwards and Cribbs

According to D. Anderson, he's #1 on the depth chart, to the tune of 13 targets, second only behind SSmith NYG week 4 with 16.Team stinks, but SOMEONE has to catch the ball and MM doesn't lose points for DA's INTs.

13 targets on 48 passes. If Anderson throws 34 passes in a game, what does that do for Massoquoi's value?

 

[daveR]

As long as DA is QB, MM is rosterable. In light of Braylon's current situation, maybe moreso.

Furrey will still get third-down looks, taking some targets from MM, but they will develop MM (and maybe Robiske, eventually) because BE is gone next year.

 

[cvnpoka]

9.2 targets?

 

[whole-show]

9.2 targets?

 

[twistd]

Any player who had 8 catches for 148 yards in a week should be on a roster. Of course that depends on roster size. I am in a couple of leagues with 18 or 20 roster spots. That being the case, he is definitely worth a shot. This is a bad team will be playing from behind and throwing a lot. This year a lot of rookies have had an impact, Johnny Knox, Hakeem Nicks, Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt, and Austin Collie, to name a few. So I think assuming that because he is a rookie he won't produce is ignoring what is happening this season.

 

[Football Jones]

Any player who had 8 catches for 148 yards in a week should be on a roster. Of course that depends on roster size. I am in a couple of leagues with 18 or 20 roster spots. That being the case, he is definitely worth a shot. This is a bad team will be playing from behind and throwing a lot. This year a lot of rookies have had an impact, Johnny Knox, Hakeem Nicks, Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt, and Austin Collie, to name a few. So I think assuming that because he is a rookie he won't produce is ignoring what is happening this season.

I don't discount anybody, including rookies. That said, I'd feel better about Massaquoi if he were in a little better situation. Not that he's in a bad situation, but he's a rookie with Anderson as his QB. Then again, maybe Anderson can get hot like he did in 2007. I don't have much faith in Anderson, but we'll see.All that said, I love Massaquoi's upside. Big-time potential & one of my favorite dynasty players. And I understand where you're coming from as far as rookies being more & more valuable. Times are changing. NFL teams need rookies (at all positions) to come through for them more quickly than ever (one reason is the salary cap & the era of monster contracts).

 

[Clifton]

Flash in the pan



BAM

 

[cubbie5150]

The kid did look promising, but I'll enjoy watching the rest of my league mates blow a large % of fantasy money bidding on him.

 

[SSOG]

Thoughts? I think it's a good thing for fantasy owners that Cleveland plays Jacksonville in week 17 (after the fantasy playoffs are already over), because Massoquoi has a habit of falling to the turf in fetal position whenever Reggie Nelson is within 5 feet of him.

 

[two_dollars]

The faab (blind bidding) just processed in my league. Berrian was dropped last friday for roster space and went for the most (50). His counterpart sidney rice went 2nd (45). Massaquoi went 3rd (35) beating out the 4th WR taken, Austin Collie (17).

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Thoughts? I think it's a good thing for fantasy owners that Cleveland plays Jacksonville in week 17 (after the fantasy playoffs are already over), because Massoquoi has a habit of falling to the turf in fetal position whenever Reggie Nelson is within 5 feet of him.

 

[twistd]

The faab (blind bidding) just processed in my league. Berrian was dropped last friday for roster space and went for the most (50). His counterpart sidney rice went 2nd (45). Massaquoi went 3rd (35) beating out the 4th WR taken, Austin Collie (17).

What is the free agent budget for the year?

 

[T-BONE]

Thoughts? I think it's a good thing for fantasy owners that Cleveland plays Jacksonville in week 17 (after the fantasy playoffs are already over), because Massoquoi has a habit of falling to the turf in fetal position whenever Reggie Nelson is within 5 feet of him.

Sorry, I didnt get it...

 

[kencav]

According to the Browns Depth chart, he is listed behind Edwards and Cribbs

According to D. Anderson, he's #1 on the depth chart, to the tune of 13 targets, second only behind SSmith NYG week 4 with 16.Team stinks, but SOMEONE has to catch the ball and MM doesn't lose points for DA's INTs.

13 targets huh? Same number as Earl Bennett had in week 1, when he took a turn being the waiver wire darling du jour. Since then he's gotten a grand total of 8 in 3 games.Don't be surprised if Massaquoi heads down the same path.

Yeah but MM does not have Knox, Hester and Olsen in front of him- slight oversite

 

[Black&Gold]

Looking better now with Edwards gone.

 

[Otis]

Looking better now with Edwards gone.

Seriously. Damn.

 

[Menace]

would he be worth dropping Manningham (NYG) for?

 

[morris4903]

Great news for people who picked up Massaquoi this week.

 

[Menace]

I'm thinking this might hurt Massaquoi since he no longer has anyone to take coverage away from him.

 

[otis68]

Looking better now with Edwards gone.

I could argue that defenses would focus coverage more on Edwards with him in the lineup, giving softer coverage to Mass. But I dunno if that is valid (sounds like Mass did alot of damage vs leon Hall last week)?

 

[runner06]

Like a few others are saying, I think Edwards being traded probably hurts Massaquoi a bit because it takes coverage away from him. However, maybe this trade also shows that the Browns have confidence in Massaquoi to be a legit WR, at least long term.

 

[FFdork]

I agree that Massaquoi will probably see increased coverage. On the other hand, in virtually every game I expect this to be somewhat offset by garbage time catches.

 

[Birdie048]

I agree that Massaquoi will probably see increased coverage. On the other hand, in virtually every game I expect this to be somewhat offset by garbage time catches.

His true FF value! Playing catchup in every game will give him plenty of looks, but facing the #1 DB each and every week might not be a reality since Furry would be the vetern presence. Maybe Furry re-invents his FF value too.

 

[loose circuits]

Will Robiskie crack the line-up now that Edwards has moved on? What do we expect from Stuckey? lots of questions. I'm not sold on Mo Mass yet considering he will be the #1 pass option to defend from here on out. We'll see

 

[Fat Nick]

I just posted in the B. Edwards trade thread that I really think Mo Mass is, as of now, WAY overhyped. I'm not saying that he might not end up being solid...I'm just saying that based on what we have seen of him, which is really 1 game, he has not warranted all of this positive talk. Rather than this talk about how well he did last week, in that set of circumstances, I'd rather hear how well he seems to get separation, his track record in college, his skill set, etc. Can he beat #1 CB's in the NFL? Can he beat #2 CB's? Obviously last week proved he can do this -sometimes- but can he do it dependably?

I dont' know the answers to this, but I feel like all this talk is purely speculation based on 1 game, and it's blown up way out of proportion at this point.

 

[Banger]

SELL-SELL-SELL

his value will never be higher.

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

I just posted in the B. Edwards trade thread that I really think Mo Mass is, as of now, WAY overhyped. I'm not saying that he might not end up being solid...I'm just saying that based on what we have seen of him, which is really 1 game, he has not warranted all of this positive talk. Rather than this talk about how well he did last week, in that set of circumstances, I'd rather hear how well he seems to get separation, his track record in college, his skill set, etc. Can he beat #1 CB's in the NFL? Can he beat #2 CB's? Obviously last week proved he can do this -sometimes- but can he do it dependably? I dont' know the answers to this, but I feel like all this talk is purely speculation based on 1 game, and it's blown up way out of proportion at this point.

No doubt your right. But if you've rostered Eddie Royal, Donnie Avery, or some other seriously underperforming WR, why not take a flyer on a guy who has already scored more FPs than those guys, in case the answer is yes, yes and yes?

 

[Smarge]

I just posted in the B. Edwards trade thread that I really think Mo Mass is, as of now, WAY overhyped. I'm not saying that he might not end up being solid...I'm just saying that based on what we have seen of him, which is really 1 game, he has not warranted all of this positive talk. Rather than this talk about how well he did last week, in that set of circumstances, I'd rather hear how well he seems to get separation, his track record in college, his skill set, etc. Can he beat #1 CB's in the NFL? Can he beat #2 CB's? Obviously last week proved he can do this -sometimes- but can he do it dependably? I dont' know the answers to this, but I feel like all this talk is purely speculation based on 1 game, and it's blown up way out of proportion at this point.

No doubt your right. But if you've rostered Eddie Royal, Donnie Avery, or some other seriously underperforming WR, why not take a flyer on a guy who has already scored more FPs than those guys, in case the answer is yes, yes and yes?

That's exactly where I'm at. I've got Royal, and I'm seriously considering picking up Mo Mass to replace him. Yes, he's a rookie, coverage will now come his way, etc. But he's clearly going to continue to rack up the targets, and in the 2nd half of games when the Browns are down, that will be big.

 

[davearm]

That's exactly where I'm at. I've got Royal, and I'm seriously considering picking up Mo Mass to replace him. Yes, he's a rookie, coverage will now come his way, etc. But he's clearly going to continue to rack up the targets, and in the 2nd half of games when the Browns are down, that will be big.

Nothing is even remotely clear about this situation. Heck for all we know next week Brian Robiske will get the most targets.The Browns have been down in the 2nd half of games for the last year and a half, and that hasn't made any of their WRs valuable. Why's that changing?

 

[Fat Nick]

That's exactly where I'm at. I've got Royal, and I'm seriously considering picking up Mo Mass to replace him. Yes, he's a rookie, coverage will now come his way, etc. But he's clearly going to continue to rack up the targets, and in the 2nd half of games when the Browns are down, that will be big.

Nothing is even remotely clear about this situation. Heck for all we know next week Brian Robiske will get the most targets.The Browns have been down in the 2nd half of games for the last year and a half, and that hasn't made any of their WRs valuable. Why's that changing?

Exactly. I'd add that being down in the 2nd half typically bodes well for WR's, but for the Browns and their inability to pass, not so much. To the other above posts, I agree...if you're taking a flyer on a player with POTENTIAL upside, go for it. That's what wins FF leagues. You gotta swing, right? But all this talk about him being (as opposed to potentially being) good based on 1 game is a bit premature. I guess that's what I was trying to say.

 

[runner06]

That's exactly where I'm at. I've got Royal, and I'm seriously considering picking up Mo Mass to replace him. Yes, he's a rookie, coverage will now come his way, etc. But he's clearly going to continue to rack up the targets, and in the 2nd half of games when the Browns are down, that will be big.

Nothing is even remotely clear about this situation. Heck for all we know next week Brian Robiske will get the most targets.The Browns have been down in the 2nd half of games for the last year and a half, and that hasn't made any of their WRs valuable. Why's that changing?

Exactly. I'd add that being down in the 2nd half typically bodes well for WR's, but for the Browns and their inability to pass, not so much. To the other above posts, I agree...if you're taking a flyer on a player with POTENTIAL upside, go for it. That's what wins FF leagues. You gotta swing, right? But all this talk about him being (as opposed to potentially being) good based on 1 game is a bit premature. I guess that's what I was trying to say.

Agree with this although I think there are more he is just a "flash in the pan" posts then he's a "must pickup" posts. I have him on my roster, but that's only because my 3rd-5th WRs were Eddie Royal, Josh Morgan, and Laurent Robinson (before being IR'd). He's worth a flier in my opinion if you have issues at WR because if he doesn't work out, you're no worse off then you were before. If he does, then you might have yourself a solid #2 or #3 WR.

 

[Muahahaha]

I remember passing on Boldin "after just one week" when he came out of nowhere. Really regret that. I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards. Sure, he will be double covered. But my gut says that there is a chance he is force-fed the ball. I like my WRs to be double covered with the double-digit targets. These guys are the studs. I look for targets and yards; touchdowns come later. In my PPR league, he was the #3 WR last week (nos. 1 and 2 had two TDs each) - and this was without a TD.

He was #2 in targets last week. Worth a waiver flier IMO. Not saying he is the next Boldin; I'm saying that I'll take the risk-free option that he is. Boldin in his first week had a ton of targets and over 200 yards. If this guy had been floating around the league for a few years, I would be less inclined to do this. But these rookies that come out of nowhere are a different deal. You can catch a little something with these guys.

 

[Banger]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

 

[Muahahaha]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

 

[Chargers86]

I took him with my last pick in our 8 round Dynasty rookies only draft!

 

[runner06]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

I think it's impossible to know one way or the other.

 

[circelli17]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

I think it's more them being sick of Braylon Edwards.... his attitude, his off the field antics and his unwillingness to do what it takes to become as soon as his talent would allow him.I really like MM after the trade though, he will get a ton of looks and the Browns have proven they are willing to air it out with Derek Anderson under center

 

[Black]

Looking better now with Edwards gone.

Not sure I agree...say what you will about Braylon, but teams still doubled him. MM not going to have Winslow or BEdwards to take attention away. Chansi Stuckey probably not going to help much.

 

[Devilsden2001]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

I think it's more them being sick of Braylon Edwards.... his attitude, his off the field antics and his unwillingness to do what it takes to become as soon as his talent would allow him.I really like MM after the trade though, he will get a ton of looks and the Browns have proven they are willing to air it out with Derek Anderson under center

This move has nothing to do with MM and everything to do with the fact that Edwards can't catch a cold at the moment. He does not want to be in Cleveland and the Browns got something while he still had a little bit of value. The Browns also knew they would loose him to FA next year and got something for him. MM is going to be a one week wonder in my opinion.

 

[Banger]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

I think you're looking into the blow up a little too much. He didn't score, they didn't win the game, no team had any film on him, he was in single coverage against the #2 CB...let's not get carried away too much here. This will be the best game he'll have all year.

 

[davearm]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

It's no secret that the Browns have been trying to trade Edwards for the better part of a year now.If you're looking for the thing that triggered the Browns to act now, I'd say it's this nightclub hijinx, not anything Massaquoi did.

 

[treat88]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

Discussions have obviously been going on for quite some time. Well before last week's games. Maybe not completely unrelated, but not completely related either.It's obviously a bump for Massaquoi's value. Question is if you consider him talented enough to fill a NFL #1 WR spot.Personally, I think he is far more of a Reggie Brown/Mark Bradley/Greg Camarillo type player than a Dwayne Bowe/Eddie Royal type. That's not to say he's not a decent player, just he's going to take time to develop and his upside is limited both by talent and situation.

 

[Romofan]

I picked him up in my redraft league and here's why.

So far we can't really evaluate how good he REALLY is but he has a few things going for him.

1) Situation: I passed on other flavors of the week like Bennet, Manningham because their situation was that there were other better options on the team. Steve Smith/Nicks coming back and Hester/Olsen weren't going away. But with Braylon gone Massaquoi has a good chance to receive the biggest % of targets on a team that will be from behind like everyone else here has mentioned. I look at it this way: Is Massaquoi playing better than Edwards? Right now - yes. With Edwards gone is Massaquoi going to fill that role? Probably. You might be getting with Massaquoi what you thought you were getting with Edwards when you drafted him.

2) Chemistry with DA - you can't ignore that when a QB who's fighting for his job has a WR that is catching his passes he'll keep passing to him. Plus DA throws a better long ball then Quinn. When DA and Edwards were clicking it was a career year for both.

3) Cleveland's remaining pass schedule: next 2 BUF, PIT (both not good vs the pass)...... then not great with GB and CHI....then the BYE week.... then here's all the remaining games for the season for the BROWNIES.....DET, CIN, SD, PIT, KC and OAK. Oakland is teh only team I wouldn't want a WR playing against. This is great for DA. I see a possible return to his older self with this soft pass schedule.

Admittedly you are trying to catch lightning in a bottle picking up Massaquoi. But with the QB change, the soft pass schedule, the Brownies bad D, no real competition at WR, and his great showing last week there are more green lights then yellows or reds for Massaquoi imo.

Also remember his statline would have been even gaudier if they had given him that TD!!!

Worth a solid flier IMO.

 

[Muahahaha]

I think the Browns see something in him that allows them to get rid of Edwards.

I think that's a stretch. I think they realize that they have no serious hope of doing anything this year after week 4 in that division, BE is a FA so they might as well get some draft picks and a couple players as opposed to letting him walk for nothing but a comp pick.

So, three days after their 2nd round draft pick, ex-SEC first team WR blows up for 150 yards they trade Edwards and these two events are completely unrelated?Not sure I agree.

I think you're looking into the blow up a little too much. He didn't score, they didn't win the game, no team had any film on him, he was in single coverage against the #2 CB...let's not get carried away too much here. This will be the best game he'll have all year.

You are most likely right. 20:1 odds that we never hear anything more about him. It's that 5% shot at lightning in a bottle that I like. Anquan Boldin was a 2nd round pick for a crap team with a crap QB. I like cheap lottery tickets. I'm not blowing him up; I'm just saying stick him away in case it works. If not, you drop him in 3 weeks. There COULD be a connection. Did you watch the game? Does he have skills? The FBG writeup on him was pretty complementary: "He made tough catches in tight coverage and regularly was able to gain separation from defensive backs. He was targeted on a variety of routes, deep and underneath, and showed impressive hands and concentration when competing for tough catches. " Doesn't sound like a one-week wonder to me. I have yet to see a bad post about this guy from a Cleveland homer; they have all been pretty complementary.

 

[massraider]

I picked him up in my redraft league and here's why. So far we can't really evaluate how good he REALLY is but he has a few things going for him. 1) Situation: I passed on other flavors of the week like Bennet, Manningham because their situation was that there were other better options on the team. Steve Smith/Nicks coming back and Hester/Olsen weren't going away. But with Braylon gone Massaquoi has a good chance to receive the biggest % of targets on a team that will be from behind like everyone else here has mentioned. I look at it this way: Is Massaquoi playing better than Edwards? Right now - yes. With Edwards gone is Massaquoi going to fill that role? Probably. You might be getting with Massaquoi what you thought you were getting with Edwards when you drafted him.2) Chemistry with DA - you can't ignore that when a QB who's fighting for his job has a WR that is catching his passes he'll keep passing to him. Plus DA throws a better long ball then Quinn. When DA and Edwards were clicking it was a career year for both. 3) Cleveland's remaining pass schedule: next 2 BUF, PIT (both not good vs the pass)...... then not great with GB and CHI....then the BYE week.... then here's all the remaining games for the season for the BROWNIES.....DET, CIN, SD, PIT, KC and OAK. Oakland is teh only team I wouldn't want a WR playing against. This is great for DA. I see a possible return to his older self with this soft pass schedule. Admittedly you are trying to catch lightning in a bottle picking up Massaquoi. But with the QB change, the soft pass schedule, the Brownies bad D, no real competition at WR, and his great showing last week there are more green lights then yellows or reds for Massaquoi imo.Also remember his statline would have been even gaudier if they had given him that TD!!! Worth a solid flier IMO.

Absolutely.We're talking about a guy that is on most redraft waiver wires. And just got bumped up to #1 status. Why NOT put in a claim?