Montee Ball (2 Viewers)

[Chaka]

It's apparent that all of these "experts" had Ball that high cause of his situation, not because he is particularly good. Cause he's not. Which is why I never bought him as a first or second round pick. Most of us correctly assumed that the Broncos offense would drop off from last year's record-setting level, but a RB who looks like JAG and who has never done it is gonna be a top 5 or 6 RB? Yeah, I never bought that for a second.

And fumbling on the first play yesterday just showed why I, a Broncos fan, do not trust him. He basically gave Seattle 3 points right there, and in a game which they lost in OT, that is huge.

Do the CJ Anderson rumblings have merit? Could he take over the job anytime soon?

No. No.

 

[White Lightning]

Thanks for the Anderson update(s). (Note to self - he sucks ****)

 

[iamkoza]

this is going to be tough sledding until possibly week 6... even that matchup home against SF will be tough...

i'm not qualified to grade O-line play, but they dont seem to be doing a great job opening holes and ball is only going ot get what is blocked plus a couple yards after contact... i'm going to sit on montee for now since i wont get much for him in trade

 

[Chaka]

The oline is the biggest reason for the poor rushing numbers. You can blame ball all you want but no other rb on denvers roster was going to get good numbers in sea yesterday. It will get better. He was ranked highly before the season due to manning and the workload. These things have not changed. No other rb on denver is a threat. Bench him at your own risk. When denver is blowing teams out, which they normally will, his numbers will go up

Yeah the line really looks to be an issue. Reminds me of Le'Veon Bell from last year. He looked like a plodder but defenses were living in the backfield, then the Steelers start making improvements on the line and now Bell isn't getting touched until 2 yards past the LOS and he looks like Marcus Allen.

Last year Ball was tearing it up to the tune of 4.7 y/a but now can't even get to the LOS before being confronted by 1-3 defenders seemingly 70-80% of the time. As the offensive line goes so goes the running game.

I think Denver can turn that around but it is not a great start particularly as the TD opportunities have not been there either.

 

[Shutout]

Another week, another 70+% of offensive snaps for Montee. This time he finished with 78%. People might not like him, but there's no indication that he's going anywhere.

THAT'S the problem. We need him to go somewhere...like down the field...preferably several times and many yards at a time.

 

[Dizzy]

Mildly concerned Ball owner here... I don't think he loses his job (he's a trusted blocker), but I haven't gotten that feeling that he's going to excel at it either. I benched him yesterday (fortunate to have Lamar Miller getting serious bump), but I think he struggles to deliver half the points the FBG.com ratings project him for on a weekly basis. Then again I hope I'm wrong, because nobody's come a knockin' with any trade offers yet.

Feels to me like the Bronco's offense is playing inside a shorter field this year. Yes, this may be a poorly veiled reference to the lack of shots down field (or someone's ability to throw them... far). They just look compressed... Broncos not that far from being 0-3 really.

 

[unckeyherb]

Ball was getting torched behind the LOS. I don't know how that can be attributed to him being JAG. I'll concede that the oline looks a mess, but with the caveat that Seattle's defense (one of the best in the league) seemed poised to stop the run. His situation seems similar to Lacy's. Second year back, hasn't proven much of anything yet but 3 down back in a great offense with 1a/1b QB play. Neither have hit their stride yet it seems, but FWIW they've played some stiff competition-Lacy far more than Ball. Unfortunately, we've got a bye week followed by three brutal weeks in a row for Ball. I'm keeping the faith because I DO believe that Manning makes any RB better and I think Ball is already a pretty darn good runner. I'll admit I am also keeping the faith because his value is very low and I don't have much of a choice.

 

[Da Gildz]

Not to play Monday morning QB but why did anyone start Ball @ Sea? They bottled up Lacy who's 100x better then Ball is. I don't know, I sat him , seemed like an easy decision. Even if he scored, he wasn't going to get much in the yardage column...

 

[shadyridr]

Not to play Monday morning QB but why did anyone start Ball @ Sea? They bottled up Lacy who's 100x better then Ball is. I don't know, I sat him , seemed like an easy decision. Even if he scored, he wasn't going to get much in the yardage column...

Not everyone has a bunch of RBs they can start

 

[Da Gildz]

Not to play Monday morning QB but why did anyone start Ball @ Sea? They bottled up Lacy who's 100x better then Ball is. I don't know, I sat him , seemed like an easy decision. Even if he scored, he wasn't going to get much in the yardage column...

Not everyone has a bunch of RBs they can start

That's fair. Guess im looking at leagues with Flex's or PPR even. He was pretty replaceable yesterday, also w/o any byes...

 

[shadyridr]

Not to play Monday morning QB but why did anyone start Ball @ Sea? They bottled up Lacy who's 100x better then Ball is. I don't know, I sat him , seemed like an easy decision. Even if he scored, he wasn't going to get much in the yardage column...

Not everyone has a bunch of RBs they can start

That's fair. Guess im looking at leagues with Flex's or PPR even. He was pretty replaceable yesterday, also w/o any byes...

Well in my case I had to choose 2 between Bell, Vereen, Rainey, & SJax. Not pretty options but alot better than other teams in my league. So I chose him & Rainey

 

[unckeyherb]

Not to play Monday morning QB but why did anyone start Ball @ Sea? They bottled up Lacy who's 100x better then Ball is. I don't know, I sat him , seemed like an easy decision. Even if he scored, he wasn't going to get much in the yardage column...

Not everyone has a bunch of RBs they can start

That's fair. Guess im looking at leagues with Flex's or PPR even. He was pretty replaceable yesterday, also w/o any byes...

considered Blue or Quick over him, but puled the trigger. Ended up resulting in a loss for me. Like I said, I'm reserving my worries for later in the season.

 

[Interseptopus]

I'm mildly concerned. His next 3-4 matchups are hell. But, he gets a week to work it out.

All that matters (for me) is fantasy playoffs (Insert Jim Mora meme here).

 

[cloppbeast]

All this talk about Ball being JAG is pretty hilarious. As with any player, a few bad games will always attract haters.

In any event, he's had one really bad game, and two decent ones. Even in his really bad game, even after fumbling his first carry, Denver stuck with him. His team clearly has his back, and I expect his usage will only increase. I think this thread will have a different tone by week 8.

 

[JamesTheScot]

The oline is the biggest reason for the poor rushing numbers. You can blame ball all you want but no other rb on denvers roster was going to get good numbers in sea yesterday. It will get better. He was ranked highly before the season due to manning and the workload. These things have not changed. No other rb on denver is a threat. Bench him at your own risk. When denver is blowing teams out, which they normally will, his numbers will go up

Yeah the line really looks to be an issue. Reminds me of Le'Veon Bell from last year. He looked like a plodder but defenses were living in the backfield, then the Steelers start making improvements on the line and now Bell isn't getting touched until 2 yards past the LOS and he looks like Marcus Allen.

Last year Ball was tearing it up to the tune of 4.7 y/a but now can't even get to the LOS before being confronted by 1-3 defenders seemingly 70-80% of the time. As the offensive line goes so goes the running game.

I think Denver can turn that around but it is not a great start particularly as the TD opportunities have not been there either.

It's exactly what's going on in Philly and Green Bay as well, IMHO.

RB's don't drop off from one year to the next for no reason. And if they are young and have their prime years still ahead of them, and if there isn't an injury, then you almost have to default to either o-line or defensive scheme being the issue.

 

[fantasy stud]

Game 1- 83 yards and a td

Game 2- 89 total yards, ran hard and averaged 5 yards per carry

Game3- terrible matchup where his backups combined for negative yards.

Take away the Seattle game where I started Bradshaw over him, it doesn't look that bad in this day of in age of running backs.

 

[Smack Tripper]

All this talk about Ball being JAG is pretty hilarious. As with any player, a few bad games will always attract haters.

In any event, he's had one really bad game, and two decent ones. Even in his really bad game, even after fumbling his first carry, Denver stuck with him. His team clearly has his back, and I expect his usage will only increase. I think this thread will have a different tone by week 8.

How about we start with one good game and work backwards?

 

[kutta]

His next three games are against the Cards, Jets, and 49ers. All those D's are in the top 7 for rushing yards allowed (1, 4, 7). Things could get worse before they get better, so if you are looking to get Ball, you probably still have some time. The Ball owners probably won't start being happy until week 8 vs. the Pats.

 

[Ghost Rider]

All this talk about Ball being JAG is pretty hilarious. As with any player, a few bad games will always attract haters.

In any event, he's had one really bad game, and two decent ones. Even in his really bad game, even after fumbling his first carry, Denver stuck with him. His team clearly has his back, and I expect his usage will only increase. I think this thread will have a different tone by week 8.

What great games has he had to justify all the love he has gotten?

 

[massraider]

All this talk about Ball being JAG is pretty hilarious. As with any player, a few bad games will always attract haters.

In any event, he's had one really bad game, and two decent ones. Even in his really bad game, even after fumbling his first carry, Denver stuck with him. His team clearly has his back, and I expect his usage will only increase. I think this thread will have a different tone by week 8.

What great games has he had to justify all the love he has gotten?

I would also like an answer to this question.

 

[Mile High]

Former players are have been talking about it alot on local radio over over the past few days/weeks. They have been saying the Broncos don't practice the run game much.

 

[oswizzle]

Broncos will make adjustments during the Bye

Ball will get his... I bet they use him a lot more in the passing game week 5

 

[Interseptopus]

All this talk about Ball being JAG is pretty hilarious. As with any player, a few bad games will always attract haters.

In any event, he's had one really bad game, and two decent ones. Even in his really bad game, even after fumbling his first carry, Denver stuck with him. His team clearly has his back, and I expect his usage will only increase. I think this thread will have a different tone by week 8.

What great games has he had to justify all the love he has gotten?

I don't have time to look up specific stats, but I believe it was the 4.7 ypc and a knack for the endzone at the end of last year that got people excited.

 

[Da Gildz]

Not sure how anyone that has actually 'watched' Ball run the ball could be that excited. He looks so mediocre. And yea i'll say it, he's JAG. Matchups, smatchups. You can clearly see talent regardless and I just don't see it. If he were on say the Rams, he'd be waiver wire fodder.

I own only 1 share of Ball thank goodness.

 

[Kendall The Great]

I don't have time to look up specific stats, but I believe it was the 4.7 ypc and a knack for the endzone at the end of last year that got people excited.

This. And it will come again. If you sell him now you will regret it

 

[massraider]

Not sure how anyone that has actually 'watched' Ball run the ball could be that excited. He looks so mediocre. And yea i'll say it, he's JAG. Matchups, smatchups. You can clearly see talent regardless and I just don't see it. If he were on say the Rams, he'd be waiver wire fodder.

I own only 1 share of Ball thank goodness.

It's tough having just one Ball.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't have time to look up specific stats, but I believe it was the 4.7 ypc and a knack for the endzone at the end of last year that got people excited.

This. And it will come again.

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

 

[Interseptopus]

Not sure how anyone that has actually 'watched' Ball run the ball could be that excited. He looks so mediocre. And yea i'll say it, he's JAG. Matchups, smatchups. You can clearly see talent regardless and I just don't see it. If he were on say the Rams, he'd be waiver wire fodder.

I own only 1 share of Ball thank goodness.

I distinctly remember having a conversation/argument with several Badger faithful when he was coming out stating that he’s just a guy. So many refused to believe that. It might even be back in this thread at the beginning! He is just a guy. He’s the product of a great system. You can’t tell me that Montee Ball, James White, and Gordon are all such great running backs. They are the product of a good system at Wisconsin.

I drafted Ball for one reason only: Peyton Manning. He made Moreno a pro bowler. Ball is surely more talented than Moreno, right? Well, so far looks like that thought isn’t turning out so well. We will see what happens as the season progresses. If you trade Ball you will get nothing for him. If you cut him, you’re an idiot or in an 8 team league. So you have to hang onto him and hope for the best.

But yes, he is JAG, but he’s JAG who has one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL handing him the ball every week.

 

[cloppbeast]

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

I guess 3.4 YPC over a small sample size means a lot more. In which case Eddie Lacy, Jamaal Charles, and LeSean McCoy, all of whom have less YPC than Ball this season, must be JAG also.

It's one thing to say Ball doesn't have elite talent, but to label him JAG after 3 games seems a little over the top.

 

[purestrength]

The one thing thing I felt strongest about heading into the 2014 FF season was that people chasing Moreno's 2013 points through Ball would be disappointed. I've gotten a lot of other things wrong this year, but I'm pretty sure I nailed this one.

 

[Kendall The Great]

I don't have time to look up specific stats, but I believe it was the 4.7 ypc and a knack for the endzone at the end of last year that got people excited.

This. And it will come again.

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

Then by all mean sell him if you feel that way. Until it becomes a RBBC, or he loses the job entirely should anyone start to get alarmed.

Week 5 will show what adjustments has been made so I'm going to get concerned then if he's isn't on a upswing by then.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't need to sell him; I never bought him.

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

I guess 3.4 YPC over a small sample size means a lot more. In which case Eddie Lacy, Jamaal Charles, and LeSean McCoy, all of whom have less YPC than Ball this season, must be JAG also.

It's one thing to say Ball doesn't have elite talent, but to label him JAG after 3 games seems a little over the top.

I am basing it off having watched him last year and this year, not just the first three games this year.

I think the Broncos are not fully committed to running the ball, which is why they don't do it well, AND why they are content with going with JAG at RB like they did last year with Moreno, who was also JAG.

 

[Kendall The Great]

More like Peyton isn't committed to setting up the run first, but every rose has it's thorns I suppose....

 

[cloppbeast]

I am basing it off having watched him last year and this year, not just the first three games this year.

I think the Broncos are not fully committed to running the ball, which is why they don't do it well, AND why they are content with going with JAG at RB like they did last year with Moreno, who was also JAG.

You use the term JAG pretty liberally, which probably explains our disagreement.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Okay, let me put it this way, then: Montee Ball doesn't look special to me in any way. He looks like a solid NFL RB, but also one that cannot be trusted (see: his fumbles at bad times in the NE game last year and the Seattle game the other day). It's very possible that over the course of this season, he'll put up very good numbers solely because of the offense he is fortunate to play in, but that is the only reason. I know many used that as a reason to spend a high draft pick on him this year, but the way I saw it, he has to do about what Knowshon Moreno did last year to justify his high price, and considering most of us realized that the Broncos offense was not gonna be that absurdly good again (unless you think the two best offensive seasons are gonna happen back to back), especially with having a tougher schedule this year, the odds of him doing it are not good. That is how I saw it and still see it.

 

[Da Gildz]

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

I guess 3.4 YPC over a small sample size means a lot more. In which case Eddie Lacy, Jamaal Charles, and LeSean McCoy, all of whom have less YPC than Ball this season, must be JAG also.

It's one thing to say Ball doesn't have elite talent, but to label him JAG after 3 games seems a little over the top.

Wait a sec, you don't think there's a noticeable difference between Ball and all those backs you mentioned? Come on now.

Great players have bad games. That doesn't mean they're marginal talents like Ball is.

Ball doesn't have 1/2 the ability of even a Lacy. Forget the other 2, they're not even in the same hemisphere with a Ball.

 

[Interseptopus]

I am basing it off having watched him last year and this year, not just the first three games this year.

I think the Broncos are not fully committed to running the ball, which is why they don't do it well, AND why they are content with going with JAG at RB like they did last year with Moreno, who was also JAG.

You use the term JAG pretty liberally, which probably explains our disagreement.

This is a good point, a lot of people use JAG as liberally as they call someone a sleeper.

I view Ball as JAG because if he were on most other NFL teams I don't think he'd be a starter, and if he was he'd be in a rbbc situation.

Without Manning I don't think we even have a discussion of if Ball should be a top draft pick

 

[Grahamburn]

I am basing it off having watched him last year and this year, not just the first three games this year.

I think the Broncos are not fully committed to running the ball, which is why they don't do it well, AND why they are content with going with JAG at RB like they did last year with Moreno, who was also JAG.

You use the term JAG pretty liberally, which probably explains our disagreement.

This is a good point, a lot of people use JAG as liberally as they call someone a sleeper.

I view Ball as JAG because if he were on most other NFL teams I don't think he'd be a starter, and if he was he'd be in a rbbc situation.

Without Manning I don't think we even have a discussion of if Ball should be a top draft pick

I hope you guys let me know when Ball isn't on the Broncos and Manning is no longer the QB.

 

[hxperson]

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

I guess 3.4 YPC over a small sample size means a lot more. In which case Eddie Lacy, Jamaal Charles, and LeSean McCoy, all of whom have less YPC than Ball this season, must be JAG also.

It's one thing to say Ball doesn't have elite talent, but to label him JAG after 3 games seems a little over the top.

Wait a sec, you don't think there's a noticeable difference between Ball and all those backs you mentioned? Come on now.

Great players have bad games. That doesn't mean they're marginal talents like Ball is.

Ball doesn't have 1/2 the ability of even a Lacy. Forget the other 2, they're not even in the same hemisphere with a Ball.

I agree Ball isn't that special but disagree about Lacy. I haven't seen anything about Lacy that makes me feel that he is special either. I see Lacy and Ball at around the same talent level. What makes Lacy's 3.1 ypc this year and 4.1 ypc last year 2x better than Balls' 3.4 ypc this year and 4.7 ypc last year?

 

[Kendall The Great]

You can make the same case about Lynch when he was Buffalo. He didn't look like anything special there.

It's all about utilization, and I am hoping during the bye, Den and Peyton can figure out some schemes to help their running game.

 

[Interseptopus]

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

I guess 3.4 YPC over a small sample size means a lot more. In which case Eddie Lacy, Jamaal Charles, and LeSean McCoy, all of whom have less YPC than Ball this season, must be JAG also.

It's one thing to say Ball doesn't have elite talent, but to label him JAG after 3 games seems a little over the top.

Wait a sec, you don't think there's a noticeable difference between Ball and all those backs you mentioned? Come on now.

Great players have bad games. That doesn't mean they're marginal talents like Ball is.

Ball doesn't have 1/2 the ability of even a Lacy. Forget the other 2, they're not even in the same hemisphere with a Ball.

I agree Ball isn't that special but disagree about Lacy. I haven't seen anything about Lacy that makes me feel that he is special either. I see Lacy and Ball at around the same talent level. What makes Lacy's 3.1 ypc this year and 4.1 ypc last year 2x better than Balls' 3.4 ypc this year and 4.7 ypc last year?

As a packer fan I agree about Lacy. He does not look special this year. Last year he looked like he could be elite. Watching denver 2x this year as well, you could sub Ball for Lacy and I wouldn't know the difference.That being said, I'm not overly worried about either of them, but I am getting close

On the other hand, both teams have OL issues, so is it surprising both are struggling thus far

 

[cloppbeast]

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

I guess 3.4 YPC over a small sample size means a lot more. In which case Eddie Lacy, Jamaal Charles, and LeSean McCoy, all of whom have less YPC than Ball this season, must be JAG also.

It's one thing to say Ball doesn't have elite talent, but to label him JAG after 3 games seems a little over the top.

Wait a sec, you don't think there's a noticeable difference between Ball and all those backs you mentioned? Come on now.

Great players have bad games. That doesn't mean they're marginal talents like Ball is.

Ball doesn't have 1/2 the ability of even a Lacy. Forget the other 2, they're not even in the same hemisphere with a Ball.

A lot of posters around here seem to have some difficulty in judging a comment in context, failing to understand the broader point. Obviously Charles and McCoy have butt loads of talent, more than Ball, yet they still have a poor YPC average through three games. Maybe we have to look beyond that number when determining talent level in such a short span. The folks calling Ball a bum because he's averaged 3.4 YPC have fallen victim to laziness.

Secondly, I think you lose some credibility in this discussion calling Lacy twice the talent of Ball. Neither of them look very good in similar situations, but I have no idea how you came up with your idea of Lacy's vast superiority. In the name of fairness, you'd have to call it a push for now.

 

[Da Gildz]

What will...4.7 YPC over a small sample size with limited carries? I guess it's inevitable that he'll have a few good games, given the offense he is lucky enough to be a part of, but his current 3.4 YPC is pretty bad.

I guess 3.4 YPC over a small sample size means a lot more. In which case Eddie Lacy, Jamaal Charles, and LeSean McCoy, all of whom have less YPC than Ball this season, must be JAG also.

It's one thing to say Ball doesn't have elite talent, but to label him JAG after 3 games seems a little over the top.

Wait a sec, you don't think there's a noticeable difference between Ball and all those backs you mentioned? Come on now.

Great players have bad games. That doesn't mean they're marginal talents like Ball is.

Ball doesn't have 1/2 the ability of even a Lacy. Forget the other 2, they're not even in the same hemisphere with a Ball.

I agree Ball isn't that special but disagree about Lacy. I haven't seen anything about Lacy that makes me feel that he is special either. I see Lacy and Ball at around the same talent level. What makes Lacy's 3.1 ypc this year and 4.1 ypc last year 2x better than Balls' 3.4 ypc this year and 4.7 ypc last year?

As a packer fan I agree about Lacy. He does not look special this year. Last year he looked like he could be elite. Watching denver 2x this year as well, you could sub Ball for Lacy and I wouldn't know the difference.That being said, I'm not overly worried about either of them, but I am getting close

On the other hand, both teams have OL issues, so is it surprising both are struggling thus far

Ok wow I see Lacy as a ferocious runner who has some juke to his game to boot. Yes, he's looked bad until now and has faced probably the 3 best run-d's in the game... but even so, I think there is a considerable difference in talent between the two. Lacy looks Marshawn-esque, Ball looks like any other pedestrian runner out there.

 

[Payne]

I wish I would have listened to my gut about Ball. He looks average at best. A bye week is not going to fix their problems.

He is a bust.

 

[Chaka]

I get the feeling that a lot of people in here played in sports leagues where they didn't keep score and everyone got a self-esteem medal.

 

[cloppbeast]

Okay, let me put it this way, then: Montee Ball doesn't look special to me in any way. He looks like a solid NFL RB, but also one that cannot be trusted (see: his fumbles at bad times in the NE game last year and the Seattle game the other day). It's very possible that over the course of this season, he'll put up very good numbers solely because of the offense he is fortunate to play in, but that is the only reason. I know many used that as a reason to spend a high draft pick on him this year, but the way I saw it, he has to do about what Knowshon Moreno did last year to justify his high price, and considering most of us realized that the Broncos offense was not gonna be that absurdly good again (unless you think the two best offensive seasons are gonna happen back to back), especially with having a tougher schedule this year, the odds of him doing it are not good. That is how I saw it and still see it.

Fair assessment, although I contend you sell Ball a little short. If the first three weeks of the season have proven anything, no running back can really be trusted. None of the top three running backs have justified their draft status, although Peterson's failings have had nothing to do with football.

I'm a little disappointed in Ball's get up and go, as he shows very little burst. I remember him displaying better acceleration at Wisconsin and last season. But he still has very good jukes for a guy his size, runs very decisively without dancing, displays good power, and runs hard. Also he displays good overall ability outside of running the rock (blocking, catching, ect.) As a mid second round pick in fantasy drafts, he may have been over drafted slightly if you took him ahead of Marshawn Lynch or Le'Veon Bell. Otherwise, I don't think he'll end up as disappointing at the end of week 15 as he is at the end of week 3.

 

[Da Gildz]

Clopp, think you're being overly optimistic here. There are rumblings in Denver of benching Ball after the bye. Its not like he's this proven commodity. He had 120 carries last year on the most prolific offense in the history of the NFL. Really hard to gauge anything off of that. If the QB is throwing 5-6 td's game, i would guess you can even find some running room. He's looked mediocre at best. To think he can't just be benched for a CJ Anderson is being a bit negligent. This isn't a proven back with years of production here. I think another poor game, he could very well be backing up CJ in week 6. And I don't think that's being too bold either. In my opinion, he wont come near his 2nd rd price tag.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Clopp, think you're being overly optimistic here. There are rumblings in Denver of benching Ball after the bye. Its not like he's this proven commodity. He had 120 carries last year on the most prolific offense in the history of the NFL. Really hard to gauge anything off of that. If the QB is throwing 5-6 td's game, i would guess you can even find some running room. He's looked mediocre at best. To think he can't just be benched for a CJ Anderson is being a bit negligent. This isn't a proven back with years of production here. I think another poor game, he could very well be backing up CJ in week 6. And I don't think that's being too bold either. In my opinion, he wont come near his 2nd rd price tag.

link to these rumblings?

 

[need2know]

Clopp, think you're being overly optimistic here. There are rumblings in Denver of benching Ball after the bye. Its not like he's this proven commodity. He had 120 carries last year on the most prolific offense in the history of the NFL. Really hard to gauge anything off of that. If the QB is throwing 5-6 td's game, i would guess you can even find some running room. He's looked mediocre at best. To think he can't just be benched for a CJ Anderson is being a bit negligent. This isn't a proven back with years of production here. I think another poor game, he could very well be backing up CJ in week 6. And I don't think that's being too bold either. In my opinion, he wont come near his 2nd rd price tag.

Yeah what proof you got? Cant find anyone saying anything even close to what your claiming here

 

[Da Gildz]

Clopp, think you're being overly optimistic here. There are rumblings in Denver of benching Ball after the bye. Its not like he's this proven commodity. He had 120 carries last year on the most prolific offense in the history of the NFL. Really hard to gauge anything off of that. If the QB is throwing 5-6 td's game, i would guess you can even find some running room. He's looked mediocre at best. To think he can't just be benched for a CJ Anderson is being a bit negligent. This isn't a proven back with years of production here. I think another poor game, he could very well be backing up CJ in week 6. And I don't think that's being too bold either. In my opinion, he wont come near his 2nd rd price tag.

Yeah what proof you got? Cant find anyone saying anything even close to what your claiming here

Didn't see it in print, the guys on "the Audible" Football Guys podcast were saying it today, and they are usually tapped in pretty well.