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Update: Interviewed with the principal, went vey well. She said she was in a bind and she needed someone who could start as early as next Tuesday, guess there is some holiday on Monday. She went to say she would make a decision by the end of the day today or tomorrow but she also started handing me the text books I would be teaching, the AP showed up again at the end of the interview.

The principal was a nice lady but means business, that was obvious. She definitely is on a different level than almost anyone else I met, meaning she has earned that principal position. She is about my age but looked older I have to say. She is working on her PhD and she told me she is pretty easy to get along with and most of her teachers want to stay. I hate to say it but she was trying to sell me on the job rather than me sell her, I wasn't expecting that. She did start to tell me about these nineteen 9th graders they have in a middle school that is supposed to be K-8. The naughty 19 as I am gonna call them are not very driven. Their parents are mostly from other countries and don't emphasize that they should be going to college…I will have to rectify that situation immediately.

The other classes and students are 7th/8th grade math and social sciences. The math book looked pretty easy, the other text books have a lot of pictures and the words are a little bigger than the college text books I am used to. It's good, it doesn't look all that difficult. I don't believe the material will be the issue, it's that classroom management. I plan on having a daily routine for the social studies classes, that routine is going to eliminate homework most nights. There will be no way around math but I want to try and limit it to about 30 minutes tops for homework, classes are almost 2 hours a pice but only twice a week and then we see all the students form all the classes on Friday. They even revers the times so that early classes on Monday will be the afternoon group on Wed…seems complicated for the kids but whatever.

80% of the students' parents don't speak a lot of English- :doh: And I asked about teacher parent conferences, principal said most of her staff are bilingual and that its not problem for them to sit in and help communicate. The students all speak English and that is gong to be the only language we speak in my class, that's gonna be on my expectations list.

 
"Gimme somethin' to write on, maaan!"

 
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"Gimme somethin' to write on, maaan!"
I plan on teaching rock history towards the end of the year in the social studies classes. We'll sample music in class as well. I have a friend who heads up a vicious 2 man band of drums and a bass guitar. Jimmy Buffett will also have to be somewhere in the curriculum.

 
I hate threads about nothing but love rants so I'm in.

MoP> from what you've posted here, teaching is a terrible vocation for you. My parents were both elementary age teachers and spent at least 2 hours every night grading homework and doing lesson plans. Beyond that, there are significant continuing education requirements that teachers are responsible for that you have to do on your own time, so kiss your 2 month vacation good-bye.

Teaching requires lots of patience and perseverance. You will need to maintain a level head, even when no one around you does. There will be more failures than successes. It will be extremely demanding for someone with a notoriously short temper. Frankly, I don't see this ending well.

There are a ton of threads here about the teaching profession, usually someone claiming that teachers make too much money. Read through those.

I know you are hard-headed and will do what you want regardless of how many people tell you it's a terrible idea, so good luck.

 
It's good, it doesn't look all that difficult. I don't believe the material will be the issue, it's that classroom management.
You really don't know what you're getting into. Seriously.
Do you also tell all your students they will fail miserably? Not exactly instilling confidence in me here.
No but if a student of mine told me "Mr. Malloy, I'm entering a MMA tournament this weekend. I've never trained in martial arts, I can't bench press a box of Kleenex, and I'm a hemophiliac. What do you think?" I'd tell them it wasn't a good idea.

 
No but if a student of mine told me "Mr. Malloy, I'm entering a MMA tournament this weekend. I've never trained in martial arts, I can't bench press a box of Kleenex, and I'm a hemophiliac. What do you think?" I'd tell them it wasn't a good idea.
Based on the way you post here, I would expect you to belittle the student. Not just tell him it wasn't a good idea.

Judging the way MOP posts here, I would expect him to throw a kid out of a second story window.

If I'm wrong on the former, I may be wrong on the latter as well.

 
No but if a student of mine told me "Mr. Malloy, I'm entering a MMA tournament this weekend. I've never trained in martial arts, I can't bench press a box of Kleenex, and I'm a hemophiliac. What do you think?" I'd tell them it wasn't a good idea.
Based on the way you post here, I would expect you to belittle the student. Not just tell him it wasn't a good idea.

Judging the way MOP posts here, I would expect him to throw a kid out of a second story window.

If I'm wrong on the former, I may be wrong on the latter as well.
Well there you go.

 
It just baffles me that someone with no teaching experience or educational background can just waltz into a job teaching middle school or high school kids

:mellow:

 
No but if a student of mine told me "Mr. Malloy, I'm entering a MMA tournament this weekend. I've never trained in martial arts, I can't bench press a box of Kleenex, and I'm a hemophiliac. What do you think?" I'd tell them it wasn't a good idea.
Based on the way you post here, I would expect you to belittle the student. Not just tell him it wasn't a good idea.

Judging the way MOP posts here, I would expect him to throw a kid out of a second story window.

If I'm wrong on the former, I may be wrong on the latter as well.
Well there you go.
Aren't you basing MOP on the same?

 
No but if a student of mine told me "Mr. Malloy, I'm entering a MMA tournament this weekend. I've never trained in martial arts, I can't bench press a box of Kleenex, and I'm a hemophiliac. What do you think?" I'd tell them it wasn't a good idea.
Based on the way you post here, I would expect you to belittle the student. Not just tell him it wasn't a good idea.

Judging the way MOP posts here, I would expect him to throw a kid out of a second story window.

If I'm wrong on the former, I may be wrong on the latter as well.
Well there you go.
Aren't you basing MOP on the same?
Not really. Obviously many of his posts here have indicated that he's got a short fuse and some strange ideas about the world but that's not really it.

He's jumping into a profession that he is not prepared or qualified for and I don't think he understands just exactly what it entails.

 
Not really. Obviously many of his posts here have indicated that he's got a short fuse and some strange ideas about the world but that's not really it.

He's jumping into a profession that he is not prepared or qualified for and I don't think he understands just exactly what it entails.
I would agree, if I everything MOP has said on this board was true. This takes us back to Phrozens point. Which is more likely to be true.? That MOP is actually qualified, or the people in charge of hiring teachers, is making a huge mistake?

If it's the latter, it doesn't exactly make you look good.

 
Not really. Obviously many of his posts here have indicated that he's got a short fuse and some strange ideas about the world but that's not really it.

He's jumping into a profession that he is not prepared or qualified for and I don't think he understands just exactly what it entails.
I would agree, if I everything MOP has said on this board was true. This takes us back to Phrozens point. Which is more likely to be true.? That MOP is actually qualified, or the people in charge of hiring teachers, is making a huge mistake?

If it's the latter, it doesn't exactly make you look good.
How much money would it take for you to post strictly in the shark pool and asst coaches forum? Serious question.

 
Not really. Obviously many of his posts here have indicated that he's got a short fuse and some strange ideas about the world but that's not really it.

He's jumping into a profession that he is not prepared or qualified for and I don't think he understands just exactly what it entails.
I would agree, if I everything MOP has said on this board was true. This takes us back to Phrozens point. Which is more likely to be true.? That MOP is actually qualified, or the people in charge of hiring teachers, is making a huge mistake?

If it's the latter, it doesn't exactly make you look good.
How much money would it take for you to post strictly in the shark pool and asst coaches forum? Serious question.
How much you got?

 
Not really. Obviously many of his posts here have indicated that he's got a short fuse and some strange ideas about the world but that's not really it.

He's jumping into a profession that he is not prepared or qualified for and I don't think he understands just exactly what it entails.
I would agree, if I everything MOP has said on this board was true. This takes us back to Phrozens point. Which is more likely to be true.? That MOP is actually qualified, or the people in charge of hiring teachers, is making a huge mistake?

If it's the latter, it doesn't exactly make you look good.
OK

 
The principal was a nice lady but means business, that was obvious. She definitely is on a different level than almost anyone else I met, meaning she has earned that principal position. She is about my age but looked older I have to say. She is working on her PhD and she told me she is pretty easy to get along with and most of her teachers want to stay. I hate to say it but she was trying to sell me on the job rather than me sell her, I wasn't expecting that. She did start to tell me about these nineteen 9th graders they have in a middle school that is supposed to be K-8. The naughty 19 as I am gonna call them are not very driven. Their parents are mostly from other countries and don't emphasize that they should be going to college…I will have to rectify that situation immediately.
I don't know how you plan on rectifying the fact that their parents are from other countries, but man do I want to hear the story.

 
I have a call with a local garage tomorrow. I have always wanted to be a mechanic but have no experience even changing my own oil. I am really hopeful I can land the job. The owner seems positive and I will be a good fit.

 
I have a call with a local garage tomorrow. I have always wanted to be a mechanic but have no experience even changing my own oil. I am really hopeful I can land the job. The owner seems positive and I will be a good fit.
Good luck Phrozen, keep us posted on how it goes.

 
MOP - if you could provide me with a list of your students, and their parents' home phone numbers, I'd like to make some prospective client files for them. Just in case, you understand.

 
Don't listen to these Debbie Downers, Sean. Reach for that brass ring!
:goodposting:

All of you ######s that are trying to derail this need to ####.
Not even KCitons could derail this.
How do you think I'm derailing this?
Did he say you're derailing it?
You're right Ditka. Fantasycurse knows how to walk that fine line.

With that said, Not even Limp Ditka could derail this.

 
Don't listen to these Debbie Downers, Sean. Reach for that brass ring!
:goodposting:

All of you ######s that are trying to derail this need to ####.
Not even KCitons could derail this.
How do you think I'm derailing this?
Did he say you're derailing it?
You're right Ditka. Fantasycurse knows how to walk that fine line.

With that said, Not even Limp Ditka could derail this.
AGREED!

 
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Update: Interviewed with the principal, went vey well. She said she was in a bind and she needed someone who could start as early as next Tuesday, guess there is some holiday on Monday. She went to say she would make a decision by the end of the day today or tomorrow but she also started handing me the text books I would be teaching, the AP showed up again at the end of the interview.

The principal was a nice lady but means business, that was obvious. She definitely is on a different level than almost anyone else I met, meaning she has earned that principal position. She is about my age but looked older I have to say. She is working on her PhD and she told me she is pretty easy to get along with and most of her teachers want to stay. I hate to say it but she was trying to sell me on the job rather than me sell her, I wasn't expecting that. She did start to tell me about these nineteen 9th graders they have in a middle school that is supposed to be K-8. The naughty 19 as I am gonna call them are not very driven. Their parents are mostly from other countries and don't emphasize that they should be going to college…I will have to rectify that situation immediately.

The other classes and students are 7th/8th grade math and social sciences. The math book looked pretty easy, the other text books have a lot of pictures and the words are a little bigger than the college text books I am used to. It's good, it doesn't look all that difficult. I don't believe the material will be the issue, it's that classroom management. I plan on having a daily routine for the social studies classes, that routine is going to eliminate homework most nights. There will be no way around math but I want to try and limit it to about 30 minutes tops for homework, classes are almost 2 hours a pice but only twice a week and then we see all the students form all the classes on Friday. They even revers the times so that early classes on Monday will be the afternoon group on Wed…seems complicated for the kids but whatever.

80% of the students' parents don't speak a lot of English- :doh: And I asked about teacher parent conferences, principal said most of her staff are bilingual and that its not problem for them to sit in and help communicate. The students all speak English and that is gong to be the only language we speak in my class, that's gonna be on my expectations list.
No you don't.

 
It seems somewhat unbelievable to me that this school would throw a total rookie in front of kids with such short notice.
It just baffles me that someone with no teaching experience or educational background can just waltz into a job teaching middle school or high school kids

:mellow:
The principal's first words to me "Look, we're in a little bit of a bind here"…and again a couple minutes later "I'm in a bind here"…few minutes later I get the news about the naughty 19 which will now be the N19 for short. I also found out this was not the 1st teacher in this position this year, at least the 2nd so it sounds like the N19 are doing a good job of winning the tug-o-war but I have different ideas. I'm smart enough to find the smartest teachers in that school who know what their doing and surround myself with them. I do this everywhere I go, find what's working and make it my own.

I'll find out how awful this N19 team is but I have a feeling they have been pushing the teacher's buttons. I have a few tools I can use including detentions which the kids hate because they have to stay until 4:15 and take the later buses home. I imagine if I ask if they want to call their parent from my classroom and explain why they are calling them, that sounds rough. And then I can send them to another classroom for the behavior issue types and they get to to do their work by themselves all day…no fun for a class clown to not have an audience.

Of course I'm a little nervous, who wouldn't be? But they have never seen the likes of me and I think they should be equally ####ting a brick right now if they knew what was coming. I do have a department head from another charter/magnet school who is going to be feeding me everything I need to succeed so again it's not what you know but who you know. He said if I go in and really make strides with these kids that I can apply in a year for a department head job if that is something I want to pursue. He said leadership at the school level is lacking and if you are even slightly motivated and work hard you can succeed in the school system down here.

Honest, I appreciate you all trying to show me how bad this could go. I do understand and I will be working hard to catch up. I had plenty of so so teachers growing up but I remember a handful that had me excited to learn in their class. I will use some of that knowledge to set up the learning environment in these classrooms. I have a bunch of folks that want to help me decorate the classroom and change whatever this other person had up. I walked by the classroom, it looked like a dungeon, gotta spruce it up and wake everyone up.

Ministry of Principles

 
I have a call with a local garage tomorrow. I have always wanted to be a mechanic but have no experience even changing my own oil. I am really hopeful I can land the job. The owner seems positive and I will be a good fit.
That's great, maybe they need an anti-freeze specialist.

 
Not really. Obviously many of his posts here have indicated that he's got a short fuse and some strange ideas about the world but that's not really it.
He's jumping into a profession that he is not prepared or qualified for and I don't think he understands just exactly what it entails.
I don't feel that is unfair at all. I'm gonna use it as motivation and not in a bad way. I have to work harder and smarter than the next person that actually has teaching credentials and I gotta switch from coffee to hot tea to keep calm.

 
Update: Interviewed with the principal, went vey well. She said she was in a bind and she needed someone who could start as early as next Tuesday, guess there is some holiday on Monday. She went to say she would make a decision by the end of the day today or tomorrow but she also started handing me the text books I would be teaching, the AP showed up again at the end of the interview.

The principal was a nice lady but means business, that was obvious. She definitely is on a different level than almost anyone else I met, meaning she has earned that principal position. She is about my age but looked older I have to say. She is working on her PhD and she told me she is pretty easy to get along with and most of her teachers want to stay. I hate to say it but she was trying to sell me on the job rather than me sell her, I wasn't expecting that. She did start to tell me about these nineteen 9th graders they have in a middle school that is supposed to be K-8. The naughty 19 as I am gonna call them are not very driven. Their parents are mostly from other countries and don't emphasize that they should be going to college…I will have to rectify that situation immediately.

The other classes and students are 7th/8th grade math and social sciences. The math book looked pretty easy, the other text books have a lot of pictures and the words are a little bigger than the college text books I am used to. It's good, it doesn't look all that difficult. I don't believe the material will be the issue, it's that classroom management. I plan on having a daily routine for the social studies classes, that routine is going to eliminate homework most nights. There will be no way around math but I want to try and limit it to about 30 minutes tops for homework, classes are almost 2 hours a pice but only twice a week and then we see all the students form all the classes on Friday. They even revers the times so that early classes on Monday will be the afternoon group on Wed…seems complicated for the kids but whatever.

80% of the students' parents don't speak a lot of English- :doh: And I asked about teacher parent conferences, principal said most of her staff are bilingual and that its not problem for them to sit in and help communicate. The students all speak English and that is gong to be the only language we speak in my class, that's gonna be on my expectations list.
:lmao: :lmao:

If their parents work at one of the stores you're boycotting, that would enhance the story.

 

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